College Football's 6 MOST DISAPPOINTING Teams So Far (Josh Pate Cuts)

College Football disappointment is a common theme this time of year. On Josh Pate's College Football Show Ep 555 Josh Pate broke down teams like Notre Dame, FSU, Florida, Penn State, and Kansas. Which season will be worse between what Billy Napier and Mike Norvell are dealing with? Can James Franklin get things trending more positively? How will Mrcus Freeman navigate the rest of 2024? Let us know what you think in the comments below and be sure to SUBSCRIBE to the channel and CLICK THE BELL for notifications as we bring you multiple live shows per week!
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[@JoshPateCFB]

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[@Willdog20elite]

Im not sure I've ever seen a team with preseason hype quit like FSU. Sometimes its unfair to say players or a team has quit, but that team is the definition of a team that has quit. FSU walk ons deserve a chance because those guys will at least show some desire to be on the field

[@GoatedAtNFS]

Wisconsin hype was not warranted

[@saldiven2009]

Honestly, this isn't about a team being "disappointing." This is about commentators being wrong about the teams when those commentators where spending the entire off-season hyping up those teams. Don't criticize the teams without criticizing the commentators, too.

[@johnnywebb2351]

Agreed 👍🏾

[@givemeabreakdoc]

Florida will not finish better than 4-8. There’s only 3 more possible wins on that schedule. This will be a joyous year. Love it.

[@thecrazynodak]

Even Hellen Keller could have seen Florida State being the first team mentioned in this video

[@magnusnaisu]

Cant be disappointed in Florida when everyone knew Napier was an ass coach

[@HeywoodJablowme222]

ND has elite tailbacks. That wasn’t their issue against NIU - it was that those backs only got 15 attempts. The issue is that Leonard has been an appalling fit for Denbrock’s offense, especially after playing only half a dozen games (while missing boatloads of practice time) since 2022. He actually made big time throws (statistically) at Duke; he’s made none in 3 games this season. But they still would’ve won the NIU game if they just gave Jeremiah Love the damn ball on their last possession. And every other possession before that.

[@frankhorrigan7416]

Yeah exactly, I wouldn’t call Notre Dame the team disappointing. The loss was 100% disappointing, but ND is still very good and favored to win the rest of their games. If we drop one more, than fs it’s a disappointing season. Rn it’s more of a “let’s see how the rest of the season plays out”

[@Terry-q4t]

​@@frankhorrigan7416y'all got more losses coming Louisville is going to o dog walk you and beat you like a drum

[@EXOmakemeHorololo]

Question is which QB should they have taken... Or would Steve or Kenny be better fits? They definitely would never go w a real freshman at QB.

[@joshsmiley3198]

Pate State, the program that NEVER disappoints! Love you guys. Thank you for the show, nothing passes the time sitting 12 hours on a locomotive quite like fresh podcast and a fellow fan to chat with on the same crew. (Maybe don’t slip that part to the FRA). But seriously thanks for the show.

[@hittpitch1019]

Josh, I was in South Carolina's marching band back in '84, the "Black Magic" season. The band went to Notre Dame. The stadium was smaller then, and they couldn't fit us in the stands, so they put us in folding chairs on the sidelines. We trailed at halftime and came back to win the game. The weather was miserable which made the experience all the more memorable. Awesome time, great memories!

[@JSum81]

There are alot of bad teams on this list... ND had a bad loss but they aren't a bad team. Neither is Penn state... people just hate ND and seem to only talk about thier failures. I love my Vols, but I also love to see people whine so much over ND lol 😆

[@MusicMan-pg8hs]

Ummmm hey Josh, to those of who actually know Florida football actually know that Florida is not a disappointment. I actually had Florida going 4-8. Even though you have hyped up Billy Napier as a good coach I have not liked him as a coach since he was hired. As things are turning out Napier is not a good coach and he is in way over his head and has no idea of what he is doing. Can't wait until he is fired and hopefully we bring in Jon Gruden.

[@spiffy72985]

How is Michigan not included? They don’t have a quality win, and they were utterly embarrassed on their own turf by a competent team.

[@bschmid100]

And they will get embarrassed this Saturday.

[@34thoover]

​@@bschmid100 that's what i was going to comment lol

[@stischer47]

I'm disappointed that these CFB prognosticators always rank Notre Dame so high every year, regardless of the actual team.

[@glennvanzandt3011]

Amen to that.

[@connerm1491]

I mean they have a stat of finishing higher ranked then where they started like the last 8 years like I’m not even a Notre dame fan but not many teams can say that

[@Chill-ho3ft]

And they will continue to because were ND and you ain't 🍀🍀🍀

[@GoatedAtNFS]

@@Chill-ho3ftwho wants to be a choking big brand college? not me

[@saldiven2009]

@@connerm1491 Sorry, but that's just not remotely true. 2023 began #13, ended #14 2022 began #5, ended #18 2021 began #9, ended #8 2020 began #10, ended #5 Since 2010 (14 full seasons), 7 of them had a final ranking worse than their pre-season ranking. And, it's not consistently one way or the other; no streaks longer than 2 years of being better or worse at the finish than the beginning.

[@John_Hoover]

Apparently you can be pre-season ranked top 25 and lose to an unranked NIU and be super disappointed… but if you also are pre-season ranked and lose to the team at home by 10 to the team who lost to NIU, hey, no big deal…

[@Herb.streitWasRight]

FSU is not surprising when you take a look at Norvell’s lack of high school recruiting and record without JT, 2-11 😳

[@coyote23]

I think it's Alabama for most folks.

[@rydog7920]

No Texas A&M for god’s sakes them bums lost too notre dame

[@lyndalamb3221]

A&M is perpetually overrated at the beginning of each season.

[@EKW06]

Where is the nc state section am I the only one disappointed so far

[@donotrobme9295]

Dj U isn’t the problem. He absolutely took Oregon state from nothing to ranked and if osu is a big name they would have been ranked really high last year. This year he switches to Florida state and is awful and all their nfl talent is awful so it’s coaching

[@rancidity]

Nobody thought he was good last year either. He isn’t the whole problem, just a part of it. The whole problem is Mike norvell

[@magnusnaisu]

Are you dumb? Oregon state won 10 games the year before and beat Oregon and won a bowl game

[@Herb.streitWasRight]

Norvell is the problem.

[@donotrobme9295]

@@rancidity he was good last year! Which player at Oregon state made it happen more than him???? He was the team and reason for the success. He was ok at best at Clemson. So was the the other qb. He sucks at fsu. Norvel sucks. Let’s say dj was at usc or Texas or Mississippi, he’d be fine or better than that

[@rancidity]

@@donotrobme9295 dj glazer detected, opinion rejected

[@Herb.streitWasRight]

So if fsu has talent then this unmitigated disaster is on Norvell who is now 0-3 in three of his five seasons at fsu.

[@scottmccaig6185]

so would you say that Notre Dame was over-rated?

[@tjstakes167]

I don’t think he will never admit this

[@GillHartnett]

Season ain't over yet. And we just won 66-7. And the schedule keeps getting easier and easier. So after the win against Purdue, there's a feeling that everything is back on track. And NIU was merely an aberration. So if we're 10-1 vs USC to close out the year with a playoff bid in the balance, I don't know how disappointing that would be. But after NIU we'll just take it one week at a time.

[@kbrewski1]

Notre Dame's preseason rank by the AP was #8. NO ONE HAD THEM WINNING THE NC. NO ONE HAD THEM IN THE TOP 4. Obviously no one expected a 2 point last minute L at home to NIU. But if they finish 11-1 with a ROAD W OVER USC in W12, ND will get in the CFP. Even if they finish 10-2, they have a shot. Their margin of error us thin, and they can't get an auto bid like some 2 loss teams will. So quit wetting the bed you clueless whining babies.

[@EXOmakemeHorololo]

​@@GillHartnettunder Freeman we never know which game might turn into a complete disaster. I don't know what it is and why it is happening but it is there

[@johnnywebb2351]

Yes 😂

[@jeffrywebb1749]

Came here expecting to hear about my Ducks… That’s ok, I’m disappointed enough for both of us I guess.

[@GoToExtremes]

FSU is reaping KARMA 🤣 for the 8 months of pitching a fit about not getting into the playoff without their key players missing. Then sitting out the bowl game vs Georgia. 🤣

[@GoToExtremes]

Those 4 Alabama players who went took money offers from FSU and abandoned their teammates when Saban announced his retirement are getting smacked in face by Karma. Some actually gave interviews and said with all 4 of them together they were going to bring the Bama football culture to FSU. 🤣 😂

[@BubbaBrons]

As a KU fan, I love where we are as a program now the fact that beating us is something for teams to hang their hats on. That being said it REALLY sucks seeing just how poorly JD6 and our OC have been thus far. We’re playing so well most everywhere else to the point where our defense actually looks somewhat decent, not to mention Devin Neal continuing to ball out. This should’ve been our year to prove the last 2 weren’t a fluke and start contending, we have a much easier schedule and and expanded playoff field. But now we’re staring down the barrel of a potentially program ruining season without a real home game on the schedule. What especially sucks is that we’re a couple of mental mistakes away from being 3-0 and probably top 20 or 15. If JD6 doesn’t throw those picks vs Illinois or even if we just recovered that fumble vs UNLV, the script could’ve been flipped.

[@rickyrougs]

billy napier does NOT have the locker room

[@johnnywebb2351]

Agreed 👍🏾

[@34thoover]

As a penn state fan not worried our D. First half they just expected bowling green to lay down and was punched in the face. They shut them down like they were suppose to in the second.

[@Zapp__Brannigan]

"Notre Dame hater"? Josh, you're one of the most even-handed commentators out there on the topic of Notre Dame. Not a hater, not a starry-eyed believer. Just a disinterested observer who recognizes the positive impact that a resurgent Notre Dame could have on college football because of its national following and cultural prominence. I agree that they have been a massive disappointment this year. I don't think _anything_ will clear away the fallout of the Irish losing to a MAC team, no matter how well-prepared NIU was or how well their team played. ND should have wiped the floor with that team on talent alone with just average coaching. An utter failure in all aspects of the game.

[@ronaldshort9819]

Notre dame was in a war with Texas A&M and didn’t have roster depth to begin the season, they got beat by a fresh northern Illinois team that was playing their Super Bowl, they pounded Purdue….move on

[@ericlofroos2405]

The open portal and NIL are continuity and development killers!

[@senecaflint6853]

Penn State wasn’t a disappointment if you knew they were gonna flop all along

[@Makekith3697]

Okay, for OKsT it’s a more complex issue than just saying Ollie needs to get more yards and they have an old offensive line. First, when Defenses load the tackle box with an extra man to prevent the run, what do you do to beat that? Well, you pass that ball. Which is what we have been doing and successfully. Secondly, when you are being somewhat forced into a passing game you need a good o-line to stop the QB from being sacked. With that being said, Bowman hasn’t been sacked a single time yet this year. They are proving their experience by making sure that Bowman has plenty of time to take advantage of what the defense is offering. I just don’t think it’s fair to expect OKsT to have the same rushing attack as last year when defenses are planning for Ollie and just selling out to stop the run.

[@magnusnaisu]

All american rbs are supposed to be able to beat 8 man boxes with a good oline

[@26michaeluk]

I said from the very start, and i have the receipts, that Napier was the wrong coach. His personality just was never gonna fit in at a program like Florida.

[@raulmorales9967]

You can’t blame the coach when the players don’t play up to the 5 star rating.End of story.

[@jpDragna]

I can't bring myself to say DJU was the wrong QB. I don't think I heard a single person say inside or outside the program, at least not loudly enough I heard it, that DJU was going to be a QB that could elevate FSU like Ward is doing at Miami. He was always supposed to be a piece that fit into a scheme. That scheme was supposed to include first and foremost good defense. I think people envisaged a sort of post Ben Rothlisberger Steelers team for FSU this year. QB play isn't going to win them games, but their defense sure will. Frankly I almost don't even care what the whole offense has done, the defense is so astoundingly disappointing that they're the reason I'm disappointed in FSU as a whole. If I had to look at the offense, I still wouldn't be looking at DJU. They currently have 71 carries for 156 yards, and a 2.2 yard per carry average. Even if you wanted to remove DJU's 23 attempts it's still 3.5 yards per carry with 170 total yards. I'm leaving DJU's carries and negative yards in because whatever else he was as a QB at Clemson and Oregon State, the man could run. He had 1,132 yards in his prior four seasons, averaged 3.5 yards per carry. It's not an astounding total (3.5 ypc), but it's markedly better than -14 yards on 23 attempts. This team is a mess, DJU appears (to me) to be the only one who even gives a damn. Blaming him for not being something literally nobody was saying he was capable of just lets off all the other players who are absolute dumpster fires right now.

[@Herb.streitWasRight]

Norvell is the problem.

[@EXOmakemeHorololo]

We'd all like to forget the inexplicable losses to unranked opponents. Or last 15 seconds loss to Ohio. Maybe Freeman needs an exorcism as it doesn't make any real sense.

[@jaredwells465]

Agreed on Okie St. As a life long fan, I am not surprised, just disappointed.

[@ronaldshort9819]

A very good point Josh on returning players and how they don’t all improve with time 👍

[@MrMr31ful]

I’m Be real with everyone if you didn’t see fsu fall down since last year you aren’t a football fan No team goes 13-0 and all Their leaders leave cause they didn’t play in playoffs and gave up on fans gave up on school gave up on culture of Seminole football Sorry when you lose 63-3 cause no one wanted stand up for fsu even when screwed shows they had this coming big time You lose control of players You can’t coach a system team Back And sorry but your Line can be as great as God mode but when your team already has give up moods since last year your not winning games sorry that’s just facts

[@givemeabreakdoc]

FSU, Notre dame, Florida. In that order. We knew Florida would suck(except delusional UF fans), but daaaaaamn. They blow too.

[@DubReed00]

I can’t thank Norvell enough for turning down the Bama job…ROLL TIDE ROLL!

[@EXOmakemeHorololo]

Like they actually wanted him 😂no way in hell

[@Ima5starman]

Tom Allen at PSU better figure it out

[@k_e3735]

Why is Florida is disappointment? Everyone and their mother9except for you) knew Florida was going to be bad. 5 wins would've been a successful season for Florida. Napier was on the hot seat going in. This is exactly what was expected. SMU should be on this list

[@noahs7335]

Josh, I am willing to bet my own money that PSU will not let a QB go 16/20 on them in one half the rest of the season. I still trust our defense, and trust it more than our offense.

[@Hockeywizard5577]

Feels like this Pate take is a massive overreaction based off one bad half. If we had 3 games of sample and they looked mid vs another team it would be way different

[@RSeaker]

Not aggressively improving the OL & WRs over the past few years through the portal is confounding.

[@eatonville0565]

@@RSeakerOL has been good. Avg 228 yards rushing on 5.8 ypc so far. Played lights out in pass coverage vs WVU. Allowed 2 sacks vs BGU but the one was definitely on Allar. Saunders and Clifford need to get healthy and Fleming needs to be more involved

[@tomlane316]

Josh Florida has a 😂 dead battery called Basement Billy is over his head

[@jah8199]

I have Penn state at this point at 7-5 at best. They look absolutely terrible and we are two games and a bye week into the season and they’ve got an extraordinary amount of long term possibly season ending injuries among their best players. I think USC and OSU are going to really light them up…very badly. Out of the top 25 I can’t find a more overrated team right now. Maybe it’ll change but I don’t see how.

[@albertforpresident6022]

Rudy! Rudy! Rudy!

[@Senerian]

Guess all that undefeated should be in the playoff talk is over. Worst disappointment for me, another less than sub par SC Gamecock season. With all kinds of positive talk, bright future,( for one year with transfer portal) Based on the last 15 years and this schedule, Carolina will go 2-6 maybe 3-5 in the SEC and if they lucky get a shot at a sub par bowl game bowel at the end. Still same ole SC noting new. Never been worth a shit since Steve Spurrier left. and whomever hired Will Muschamp as head coach should have been fired./ Wasted millions and a few season on that BS. Beamer is not producing yet. Refs sucked and killed that LSU that should have been the turning point finally for beamer and this program. but guess that didnt fit their narrative at this time.

[@EXOmakemeHorololo]

How can you already bitch about a sub par season AFTER beating up Kentucky and almost beating LSU? We were the better team and LSU has better talent than us. You look at this team after 3 games and cry...that's just ridiculous! You have a subpar mentality

[@donotrobme9295]

Pate is amazing. At least he admits his notre dame bias but to carry it over into rankings and stats etc is terrible

[@IAmTrash1995]

If you seriously thought ND in the era of NIL and and still holding true to academic standards underneath a first year coach would be taking off? Then that’s unrealistic. Brian Kelly didn’t really get the ball rolling until 2017 after a terrible 2016

[@kbrewski1]

Notre Dame was 12-0, ranked #1 and played in the BCS NC in 2012 in Kelly's 3rd year drip.

[@IAmTrash1995]

@@kbrewski1 but we really took off in 2018

[@chrisowen3264]

Penn st is right were most people thought they’d be a good not great team that plays close games and won’t be able to beat anyone really good.

[@scanza6084]

Notre Dame and Penn State are the same program with different skins

[@kbrewski1]

Notre Dame has played in a BCS NC and 2 CFPs in the last 12 years. Penn St hasn't done squat since the mid 80s. Dork.

[@Padarius38]

Always wondered why Miami (OH) had to have there name in () while Miami is just known as Miami, and not Miami (FL).

[@Herb.streitWasRight]

Because one is globally known and the other is irrelevant. Nobody thinks of Miami of Ohio when they hear Miami.

[@kbrewski1]

Hope that's not keeping you up nights.

[@Padarius38]

@kbrewski1 that's kind of you to say sweetheart, but thankfully I'm not a Florida fan. Just an observation! Hope your day is good ❤️

[@kbrewski1]

@Padarius38 If you're looking for a date, you're barking up the wrong tree Limpnoodle.

[@Padarius38]

@@kbrewski1 where did I imply i wanted a date? Kinda sad to see your mind go in that direction. Sheesh

[@harryhoesch3793]

How does ND get 3/4's of their games at home? Same with FSU and U of F getting 2\3's of them. All these complaining even though they have an unfair advantage to begin with, let alone influencing the official's calls. Everyone should get half home and half away. Simple

[@kbrewski1]

DOZENS AND DOZENS OF SCHOOLS GET 7 OR 8 Home Games. Notre Dame WON AT TEXAS A&M AND AT PURDUE SO FAR, 2 POWER 4 CONF WINS ON THE ROAD. THE LOSS WAS AT HOME. SO WHAT'S YOUR POINT? 🤪 🤣 🤪

[@Necile2]

ND is playing six away games this year - three at neutral sites. Where you get that crap?

[@kbrewski1]

@@Necile2 I don't think they have 6 away games, but the GA TECH game is in Atlanta's pro Dome, which is minutes away from GA Tech's campus, obviously for ticket sales purposes, because their on campus stadium is small. That obviously benefits both schools, but it's certainly a road game being in Atlanta.

[@Necile2]

@@kbrewski1 The Navy and Army games are also away games being played at their nearby stadiums. They have six away games regardless. They only play six games in ND stadium.

[@GoToExtremes]

ND has been overrated for decades. Same old hype every year and even when ND made it to the BCS playoff, they got blown out.

[@kbrewski1]

The vast majority of BCS NC games were blow outs. Look it up.

[@Necile2]

And how many ranked teams have never even been to the playoffs? You need to get over your ND jealousy.

[@ClarisaChenoweth-c8v]

Very interesting topic! I look forward to more videos from you! 💖😘