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[@frankbezemer8405]

Hey Mick, it is 2019 :-) You have 2018 for the date in your video.

[@RottnRobbie]

Hmm ... A 30 day discount good until 330-some days ago. And mentioning a project towards Halloween on top of it??? Mick you need to keep better notes, but in the meantime, please upload your videos about how in 2028 you perfected time travel. Ideally, post them sometime last month so we can go back and look at them now. Thanks!

[@MickMake]

Oh bugger... I'm still stuck in 2018 mode. Like every year, that'll happen for another couple of months.

[@matzmatz4148]

@@MickMake Same 😂

[@northshorepx]

I must admit the orange PIs seems like a great SOCs on paper, but I've found the software support to to basically be rubbish.

[@pirateman1966]

All RPI copy-cats suffer the same fate. RPI is still the king of the hill. It's one thing to run a few benchmarks, very different thing to work with one day in and day out.

[@sethrd999]

If you have no desire in aiding ( without a BSP ) these boards are normally not for you. Ive had similar discussions with people at a local MakerSpace about buying the 'Something Shiney' devices. BSP's are vital in getting hardware I/O up and running as required. You have to give props to the sun-xi guys for the support you do get on the H series processors.

[@sethrd999]

@@pirateman1966 Totally disagree with your sentiment on the Pi, for one you have a nasty binary blob that gets loaded into the CPU before you can boot the thing ( you have 0 control over this one ) .. The Pi is super lack luster against anything else out there ( yes I mean everything ) 1GB ram is not going to cut it.

[@pirateman1966]

@@sethrd999 I use my Pi for electronic projects, not a workstation. It does a wonderful job for me. Maybe not for others, but I'm not concerned with others.

[@northshorepx]

@@sethrd999 What is a BSP?

[@TheNZJester]

Are the cameras on the wrong side of that mounting board? I was wondering if they are meant to go through the round holes and not above them?

[@geekinthegarden3927]

Same thought here - then the board can sit on top of the case and the cables would go inside.

[@MickMake]

Oh probably. I tend to do things backwards most of the time. Hence I find all the problems. :-D Good for everyone else.

[@MickMake]

Just checked. The holes are too small for the cameras.

[@TheNZJester]

@@MickMake One time to fit a camera lens through a mounting hole I had to actually unscrew it out of the camera , mount the camera and then pop the lens through the hole that was to narrow for the end but not the shaft.

[@electronic7979]

Very good 👍

[@catherinechapoy]

Thanks. Every Friday I am waiting for the new video from Mick. Thank you and I am waiting for the Oranges Pi tests!

[@LordDragon1965]

My roommate is a big fan of old Commodore systems and until I looked at the title again I thought you were saying "Amiga" instead of "Omega".

[@MickMake]

Loved my Amiga 2000. Shame I sold it... a real shame.

[@peterschets1380]

What is your goal with the MicroUPS? And what is the price per piece?

[@MickMake]

Essentially a UPS for your MCU. So, it has to be Uber low power. I'm talking no more than an ESP32 in sleep mode, but less. The MCU will be able to query charge states, battery states, estimated runtime, wake ups at certain times, events on low battery, charging, etc. Basically as many software features as I can fit into that attiny.

[@peterschets1380]

Nice features. Does it also contain a heat sensor? The reason i am asking is because i want to create my own drone with 18650 batteries. And i am looking for a way to control a single cell with all the features you mention, but that it doesn't care about the capacity of that single cell (18650).

[@rolfsrolfs]

Your Github is gone, google+ is shutdown. Your webpage has no updated info of your mailbags. Are you ok? Content/links to where you purchase your stuff would be great..

[@MickMake]

Mate, thanks for asking. I’ve been struggling to keep on top of the website, but will be updating it a lot this week. Thought I’d updated GitHub, but sometimes I miss things. Thanks for the heads up

[@paulhamacher773]

Hey Mick! Do you know if there's a small SBC (like raspberry pi zero) that has a proper powermanagement onboard? I mean like putting the sbc into a hibernation- or standbymode from which it wakes up in less than a few seconds. Or maybe even a smartphoneish power management which throttles the clock rates so that the board only consumes a few ten milliwatts.

[@timballam3675]

What are you trying to do? Look at Adrian's esp32 vids!

[@MickMake]

The LattePandas, UDOOs and UpBoards can do this as they have a small MCU that can control power on the main SoC. Most SoCs, (especially big.LITTLE architecture), have decent frequency scaling.

[@RobinHilton22367]

RE Around 5:00 - would be interesting given the hdmi in+out and gigabit ethernet if you could turn it into a broadcast box for streaming

[@MickMake]

Yup, that's one of the first things I'll be checking.

[@RobinHilton22367]

@@MickMake looking forward to seeing what you find. At $100 if it can do that without being overly complicated would make a great piece of hardware

[@MickMake]

Looking promising: www.orangepi.org/orangepibbsen/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=3844 Definitely add this to my tests.

[@rollmeister]

For the H6 Orange Pi boards, I have found the DC port draws more current than powering with Micro USB.

[@RocktCityTim]

Christmas in June!

[@AfterHoursEngineering]

Glad to see you got your sipeed devices. I on the other hand am hosed. My order still doesn't show on the spreadsheet even after 3 months. Most others have given up hope as well. ;-(

[@MickMake]

Oh really?! Interesting. It does happen sometimes and I have a few things I've backed that I've never seen the light of day.

[@AfterHoursEngineering]

Ironically, I actually received the package earlier this week. *embarrassed*. It took 3 months but it arrived! It came is a little, tightly packed, plastic box.

[@MickMake]

Yeah, sometimes it happens. I know all about fulfilling deliveries with my Tindie store. Sometimes packages go missing.

[@geekinthegarden3927]

Nice, looking forward to your reviews of the Orange Pi boards - especially if you can get the HDMI in port to work

[@MickMake]

Ah yeah. That'd be nice. I'd replace my Elgato HDMI recorders in a flash.

[@NewAgeDIY]

Hi Mick a quick short out from Vancouver Canada. Great video (again). Very interested in the stereoscopic cameras. Like to see more videos on it when you have time. Also any thoughts on doing more videos on the AlphaPanda ? Take care...

[@mindluge]

also interested in 3d camera stuff. what do you use to view your 3d images and videos?

[@MickMake]

I'll have a project coming up soon that uses them. It's a bit of a complex one, so needs a lot of work on it.

[@capt.proton5041]

yo mick do u have any projects with color e ink?

[@MickMake]

Actually no. Do you have any suggestions?

[@capt.proton5041]

@@MickMake wanted to know if an e ink system is significantly more battery friendly when connected to sensors and continuously running compared to lcd or led and if any animations are possible.

[@MickMake]

Absolutely! eink will only consume power when the display changes. So, it won't vanish when there's no power. But they are slow.

[@zelra891]

The RK3399 orange pi is a board I always wanting to have a grab on, looking forward to a deep review. I would say this is what a SBC should be: just extend everything the chip offers.

[@MickMake]

Yup, I agree. These SoCs offer so much, it's a shame to lot push everything out, but sometimes it's good to have the smallest possible SBC.

[@tuttocrafting]

Even if the H6 have PCIE the guys at sunxi found out that they made a bad implementation and cannot be merged into mainline kernel. So PCIE actually not available on h6.

[@seemabalkote1759]

The second one is GSM, not micro SD card slot

[@MickMake]

Nice! Usually I check everything out before I shoot the footage, but thought I'd wing it this time. :-D

[@MkmeOrg]

Nice haul!

[@MrGFYne1337357]

yay, stuff

[@bonnome2]

I really don't like the mt7688. I have a development board from mediatek. It is unstable and overall not well supported. Does the omega2+ pro have a working wifi channel 13?

[@MickMake]

Not sure. I'll have to check it out.

[@deathshaker0026]

Ahh seven seven segment neopixel! :)

[@akarshagarwal4516]

4:30 its one SD and one SIM

[@mariogamer929]

That rk3399 board has pcie, does that means dedicated GPU's? Can you maybe test it? ;)

[@MickMake]

No dedicated GPU. In fact no SBC has a dedicated GPU that I'm aware of. There may be some that call themselves "SBC", but in reality they aren't. Much like the VIA PC boards.

[@mariogamer929]

@@MickMake I don't mean built-in, I mean like an PCIE-mini to PCIE adapter and then plug in a desktop GPU. Do you think that would work?(Linux has some opensource drivers built-in)

[@MegaGamerGuy1701]

I think that is a SIM card slot on the back of the OrangePI

[@Side85Winder]

Another orange pi board i wonder how their software support is going for their older boards. There was so many good features on their products but so many didnt work properly considering how much this board has so many i bet only half of it is going to work the other half is up to the "user" to figure it out. Unless you are a a expert in these kind of things getting them working properly is impossible its best to stick with something that has much better support out of the box. Looking forward to the review and any update on any SBC's you have reviewed before, if they have a full working OS supporting all features on any of their H6 SBC's i would be impressed and they would be onto something fingers crossed for the OPI 3.

[@MrBrymstond]

Keep in mind it's a Orange Pi, I'm surprised they wrapped it, waste of money when you compare it to some of the others. I don't know about this model, but previous models were a bit dodgy.

[@MickMake]

Yeah, they’re not the best.

[@electron-1979]

I would prefer an ESD bag over a box for the SBC. Slack! (Aussie for lazy)

[@MickMake]

Yes, at least an anti static bag!

[@avejst]

Nice, thanks for sharing :-) Interesting as always :-)

[@Tarbard]

I keep hearing "Amiga" - wishful thinking maybe.

[@tuttocrafting]

I have a board similar to the Omega but running the mt7628. With a proper mini-pcie. I have an Intel wireless card on it. That chip is quite interesting, only main problem is the i2s interface that don't work properly and the i2c driver in mainline is quite limited and lot's of feature on "automatic" mode don't work. A "manual mode" driver was written but never merged. One of the things that don't work on the available driver is i2c discovery. Unfortunately the hardware expect a byte count bigger than 0 and for some i2c devices you don't have to send data but only the address to work.

[@MickMake]

That seems to be the nature of a lot of I2C implementations. That's why a lot of people prefer bit-bashing over hardware.

[@duncanx99]

I'm cobfused by Orange Pi... I have something working well on a Raspberry Pi 3, but I need an external antenna. Can I just take the SD Card from the Raspberry Pi 3 and put it into an Orange Pi 3, or is it more complicated than that???

[@timballam3675]

It's more complicated. Armbian is available so you can run most software. I run the flightaware addon on an orange pi zero but you must understand the limitations.

[@mindluge]

no, OrangePis and BananaPis require a different version of operating system as their hardware is different. It's like the difference between a Mac and a Windows PC. OrangePi and BananaPi are just trying to use the popularity of the Raspberry Pi to make similar products. Unfortunately they don't have as big a software community and haven't been around as long so their operating system versions tend not to have as much support or be optimized to run as well.

[@duncanx99]

Thanks guys....

[@mindluge]

you can buy a usb wifi card with an external antenna (or 2 even) for the raspberry pi that will do what you want.

[@duncanx99]

@@mindluge That, I suspect, would involve some rewriting of the code (how would it know to use the USB device rather than the inbuilt antenna?) - and it would introduce another potential failure point. The adaptor would need to be to SMA as the idea is to have the Pi in a metal enclosure, with external antenna through the box. The obvious thing to do would be to fit a u.FL connector to the pads (having scraped off the solder resist) and move the 0102 size 0 ohm resistor - but, being of an age where I have unsteady hands and poor eyesight, that's a non-starter...

[@TanjoGalbi]

Aww man, that offer expires on my birthday! But I don't get paid until the next day!!! :D

[@MickMake]

Well, I think I should extend it then! I'll get them to extend it for another couple of weeks.

[@TanjoGalbi]

@@MickMake hehe thanks :D

[@vikeyto]

18:14 so creppy😆

[@MickMake]

Ha ha.

[@thekakan]

I kind of dislike the Onion's pricing. I feel like I can get better value out of something else.... Except for that, it's a nice little board and if price was no barrier, I'd get it. It's on my radar since the first version :) Great video, btw

[@MickMake]

Thanks mate... Yup, the Onion is pricey, but I can understand they have to keep in business and selling hardware is their only model. So they don't have any fallback or distributor deals to lower the price.

[@tenminutetokyo2643]

DOOOOOOOOD! hackaday.com/tag/vocore/

[@helenmachelen4200]

Uai fai

[@TheLogneo]

Hey Hey...my first...first..:)

[@MickMake]

Hey, hey, hey!

[@thehulk0111]

:( i was going to be the first but my computer went out coz of my cat

[@TheBodgybrothers]

@@thehulk0111 that's what she said

[@thehulk0111]

@@TheBodgybrothers just says i was going to be first but he got lucky , next time i will be the first :D its a challenge