26th Century Starfleet

[@amazedsatsuma]

Considering it is possible the majority of Romulan people could have reunited with their Vulcan brothers by the 26th century resulted with their homeworld being rename Ni'Var...I could see this being the time for the initial movement to equip all Starfleet ships with cloaks devices

[@charzanboo9940]

Wrong. In Picard, even with the destruction of the Romulan homeworld, Star Fleet idiotically refused to abandon the Treaty of Algernon. It's because wokeism had taken root and led to the eventually destruction of Star Fleet in the 31st century.

[@ObligedUniform]

​@@charzanboo9940 you weirdos that invoke 'woke' every comment seriously need to find something better to do with your free time.

[@charzanboo9940]

@@ObligedUniform Looks like we found a woke supporter...

[@amazedsatsuma]

@@charzanboo9940 All season 3 of Picard mde clear, during start of the 25th century, the Federation likely viewed the Romulan Free State as the successor to the fallen Romulan Star Empire and thus they are honoring previous treaty commitments, like the ones within Algernon, they had with the predecessor State. Which isn't that shocking as the bloody Tal Shiar is still active during this time. However we learn that some point before the Burn occurred, Spock's dream for reunification became a reality...Romulans reunited with Vulcans on their homeworld now renamed Ni'Var. As seen in Discovery, this meant it became a standard for starfleet vessels to be equip with cloaking devices. So yes we know at some point the Treaty of Algernon will be defunct...we just don't know when exactly it occurred

[@charzanboo9940]

@@amazedsatsuma That doesn't sound clear at all...

[@samuelvine]

I remember vaguely a line from Q on his first visit to Voyager, he was surprised to see Starfleet in the Delta Quadrant and said something about it being too early by like a century. I'm hazy on this though.

[@charzanboo9940]

Q said it was 100 years too early for humans to be in the Delta quadrant. No doubt, he was surprised by the interference of the higher dimensional being in the Caretaker.

[@thenerdfulspirit]

No you are right , he totally says that: Thus proving he is not omniscient

[@charzanboo9940]

@@thenerdfulspirit I think the Q can become nigh-omniscient via their nigh-omnipotence. With omnipotence, you have the power to gain the other two: omniscience and omnipresence.

[@rubaiyat300]

It is a bit headcanony but that statement could have been for the benefit of Voyager's crew. That is...don't expect rescue by the cavalry. You are alone out here and you are only getting back by your own efforts. @@thenerdfulspirit

[@RurouniKalainGaming]

Looks like I certainly need to watch Star Trek Protogy then.

[@pointlessspike3016]

I really want to see a Star Trek series set in another galaxy with the Enterprise-J.

[@japzone]

Stargate Atlantis was so cool seeing exploration of the Pegasus galaxy, I've been interested in seeing another show tackle the concept. Also it'd be cool if we could have a fusion of DS9's space station storytelling, mixed with the exploration storytelling of TNG/Voyager, the ship being as big as it is.

[@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket]

0.o Ok, but we haven't even explored this galaxy and the galactic barrier in canon makes that all but impossible without exploring and explaining upon it further. I'd rather just see more Star Trek then ask for "hey can we get star trek but 10,000 years from now?" Also the care takers in VOY pretty much kill any interest in multi-galactic civilization for me. I mean what kind of idiots can traverse the void between galaxy's only to destroy the habitat of the first world they come across in such an exotic and strange manner? I mean what exactly is it in another galaxy you feel we can't get in the current galaxy especially considering VOY already covered the 70 years from home aspect.

[@zacharyjochumsen9677]

​@@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusketxwel maybe starf,et cou buld ship with advanced tranwarp capabilities th cxn pass the glactic barrier and be ab to criss galaxies

[@parallaxnick637]

Well, an extragalactic Star Trek show would have to deal with established Star Trek lore, which is that humanoid aliens only exist in the Milky Way, and that extragalactic races are eldritch abominations like the Caretakers and the Kelvans. I don't think technology is there to create such creatures on the scale needed for a TV show. Not yet, anyway.

[@somestormchaseridjitwithwi2024]

​@@japzoneHell yeah

[@Nostripe361]

I feel that the Klingons could be vastly different due to Wolf's influence. Unlike other kingons who only give lip service to honor, Worf actually acted as a true honorable warrior and there is no way he isn't going to be famous among Klingons for the many great acts he did for both the empire an the Federation; including being the first Klingon to be in a command officer position of the federation flagship starship and even given command of at least one of their battleships. we also saw him teaching other Klingons a better way to live like telling them to perceive time as an enemy to make farming an admiral battle. Basically by the twenty six century I feel the Klingons will truly be the honorable warriors who other can look at with admiration rather than fear and disgust.

[@kabobawsome]

Picard made it canon that he was given command of the Enterprise at one point, meaning he was a Klingon in command of the Federation flagship.

[@Woopaloops]

You mean like TOS Klingons before TNG ruined them by turning them into boring one-dimensional savages?

[@The-Singularity-X01]

@@Woopaloops Bro you clearly didn't watch TOS, the Klingons were one-dimensional 'villains of the week' in TOS.

[@Woopaloops]

@@The-Singularity-X01 LOL you are clearly the one who didn’t watch TOS. TOS Klingons were crafty, sneaky, and intimidating. They actually had personality. I mean look at the difference between Koloth and Kang. Meanwhile TNG are the most boring, dull actual one dimension characters in the franchise. It’s all “honor, honor, honor” bs while actually having no honor at all. TNG Klingon episodes are so boring they almost put me into a coma when I watched them. I would rather be locked in an empty, colorless room and be forced to stare at the wall for a decade than watch a single TNG Klingon episode, because the latter is much more boring.

[@LoneTiger]

As Q said: _"For that one fraction of a second, you were open to options you had never considered. THAT, is the exploration that awaits you. Not mapping stars and studying nebulae, but charting the unknown possibilities of existence."_

[@CristySFM1234]

In the enterprise episode azati prime Daniels does state the Klingon empire is a member of the UFP by the 26th century

[@Nostripe361]

Honestly I feel that this could be due to the influence of Worf. He created a way that a Klingon could honorable serve in the federation and I feel that he was trying to influence others in the Empire to abandon their more corrupt and dishonorable ways. Could even see a split in the Klingons with one side eventually joining the Federation while the other move to protect their more "traditional" ways.

[@TheZamaron]

@@Nostripe361 Let's face it, as much as the KIlingons butt heads witht he Federation they always coem bac to being steadfast allies should a major conflict erupt, the Klingons make a great ally in war making up for the lack of soldiers in the Federation, and the Federation is so specialized due to Starfleet's Scientific role and constantly dealing with the unkown that they can often engineer new powerful weapons or some means of gaining an upper hand, or at least evening the playing field with more powerful enemies like the Dominion or Borg. It makes sense the Kilingons and likely most factions would over centuries eventually join the Federation, STO does a great job with depictign this possability by having the Federation, Klingons, and Romulan Republic at first the Feds and Klingons are at war, the Republic then forms and despite the 2 sides trying to curry the most favor with the Republic this leads to at least attempts at peace, but when more powerful enemies start to surface they focus more on extra threats rather then their war, eventually deciding to just end it completly as they now face threats like a resurgent Borg, the Undine, the Herald forces of the Iconians like the Elachi, and other smaller groups, eventually first reinstatign the Khitomer Accords, then forming the Khitomer Alliance, and later over time adding more factions to this alliance, I liek to think the alliance lasts and the Federation takes a leadership role with most factions just deciding to join it anyway, but remaining somewhat independent, but joined enough that a Klingon is the Federation representative in the Temporal Accords.

[@rubaiyat300]

Frankly, I think it's inevitable. We and the writers like the safety of having old familiar faces, but realistically, there simply is no way for the Romulans and Klingons to keep up with the Federation, no matter how hippy the space hippies get. The Federation can make bad treaty after bad treaty and have no counterintelligence allowing threat nations to steal every tech advantage, and make their citizens as soft as Kleenex with huge investment on luxury lifestyles and the Federation economy alone would simply swamp the Spartan aliens mainlining military expenditures and desperately conquering and enslaving others. And that's without the obvious reality of WHY Star Trek was made in the first place as a piece of fiction and thus those empires SHOULD die even if light has to be dark and gravity no longer exists (ie the very rules of nature should be broken by writer fiat to make the Federation succeed since that is the entire point of Star Trek) @@Nostripe361

[@CannonRanger1]

Every time I see the J, I can't help but to see President Skroob running and running and running to get to the bridge. Thanks for the correction Eric. 👍

[@TheZamaron]

LOl, my guess is the Universe Class has a faster Turbolift system, or maybe internal beaming.

[@ericdunn7352]

It was President Skroob running to the bridge, I mean if he walked, the movie would be over.

[@CannonRanger1]

@@ericdunn7352 I stand corrected. 👍

[@sapstups]

I wonder what opportunities could be opened through investigating the Andromeda galaxy, as it is not only larger as the Milky Way but regarding the Kelvan Empire also further developed than our galaxy's (current) powers.

[@WujekFu]

There are other galaxies between Andromeda and the The Milky Way, such as the The Magellanic Clouds. It would be awesome to learn about the civilizations that inhabits these star clusters.

[@adamsmith7058]

@@WujekFu Also, it's been discovered that, rather than just space, there are filaments and extragalactic structures that connect all the Galaxies in our local system. Corridoors between all these locations that are huge entities in themselves. There are several centuries/millenia(?) of exploration right there.

[@WujekFu]

@@adamsmith7058 Exactly. Recently a bridge of stellar material connecting the Milky Way to the Magellanic Clouds has been discovered. It was called the Magellanic Stream. The Small Magellanic Cloud is also a home of nerve parasites that slaughtered the colony on Deneva in TOS episode "Operation -- Annihilate!".

[@adamsmith7058]

@@WujekFu Cool. I knew about Andromeda aliens being featured, but not others from our local region An interesting avenue to explore for extragalactic species would be featuring more non humanoid forms, with the number of humanoid species diminishing as you travel further away from the Milky Way. Perhaps some ultradvanced humanoid species, who had evolved from the Founders,developing warp drive millions of years ago, (giving them a possibly much more advanced technological basis), could be featured, with their travails encountering radically different body morphologies being explored. With them possibly guiding the Federation in their dealings with a very different set of alien species, along with the possibility of alterior motives, where these humanoid species may not be giving an entirely reliable representation of other extragalactic species. Travelling this new terrain, with the addition of extradimensional or time travel as another mode of exploration, woulld certainly add to a narrative which, while entertaining, has become somewhat repetitive lately, with many familiar species and themes being overused imo.

[@velnz5475]

If they ever touch on it, the smart thing to do is instead of the Iconian war of STO, we get a story of a Iconian-Kelvan war. With both coming to a stalemate and the Kelvans following the Iconians home. The reason Star Fleet doesnt use time travel as much might be to keep good on an alliance with the Iconians.

[@occultatumquaestio5226]

Though currently limited in information, the 26th century is indeed an interesting time for Starfleet.

[@rubaiyat300]

Yeah I feel its as cataclysmic as the 24th century with the Borg and Dominion. And also why I'd like to retire TOS era threats (other than maybe the Tholians only for their very weird temporal/dimensional stuff) because they are simply insufficient to challenge a Federation that can presumably take on and survive these other threats mentioned.

[@dylang.1436]

PLEASE do a full series of different eras in the ST universe.

[@baystated]

I love that Star Fleet's super-flat saucers imply ceiling and floor windows. Imagine getting a cabin on the ventral hull and your floor has windows down into the endless nothingness of deep space.

[@DeadMech1]

You really gotta commit to that first step out of bed in the morning.

[@s1alker564]

I remember something about the ships being flat but the inside is massive using some tech to do that.

[@thecosmickid8025]

...Or the artificial gravity is differently aligned.

[@Onmyfacepls]

This is the 3rd video of yours I watched in a row and they've all been great! Keep up the awesome work! Liked and subbed from here.

[@Gabu_]

It's quite funny that the Borg were introduced as a major threat whose only purpose was assimilation, and later on Starfleet assimilated the Borg.

[@AM-dc7pv]

One of the worst things about assimilation is that just deleting your browser history won't be enough. The Borg Collective be like, "Wait, no...not that one. Un-assimilate and leave his nasty ass here."

[@zippygundoo5852]

This is awesome, thanks for the thought you always put into your videos, they’re just so enjoyable & engaging & really capture the imagination.

[@JonathanGFoulds]

I can’t help but say that the fantastic graphics and imagery of the “UNIVERSE Class” Enterprise - particularly the front of the oval shaped saucer - the front of which reminds me organically very much like a gigantic maw of a whale shark :-) it’s scale is just unbelievably enormous, but standing back and looking at the ship as a whole gives the impression of an under sea creature mashed with technological / practical design elements that keep it feasibly locked with the design of ships Prior??? thank you again Rick for a quite engrossing invitation i this case to draw comparisons, contrasts, speculative design based in and out of canon - and Star Trek Online of course.

[@christopherg2347]

8:54 It was simply the last time Q (De Lanci) or his Son was around to annoy them. Think about it: How often did they encounter another Q, unless he was _also_ there? I think the answer is: 0 times. I think Quinn was the only time he was the 2nd Q appearing to the scene. He was the one that kept looking for contact with Humanity and the Federation. The rest kinda ignore them, like the UFP would a pre-warp society.

[@rubaiyat300]

Yeah I would LOVE if there was actually another level of enlightenment in the Trek universe. Where intergalactic powers, capable of dancing into other timelines (someone built the Guardian of Forever for example) were floating around unseen and the main powers of Trek as awesome as they are too us, are simply too far beneath them to contact or even perceive them, just like your average pre-Warp society is to our intrepid heroes. The Organians, Q, Metrons, etc are in a tier above even that but seek to every once in a while nudge promising candidates onto the right path.

[@paulwhite6745]

Good point, but the JDL Q was around throughout time. Although he supposedly 'died' at the end of Picard season 2, we see him return at the end of season 3, because he isn't linear. So there's no reason he couldn't contact humanity in the 26th century or the 32nd, but apparently he doesn't, for reasons we don't know.

[@jeremypace249]

05:20 - Don't forget, in ST:VOY "Year of Hell", they needed "temporal shields" to protect themselves from the time-weaponship's weapons and effects.

[@Kundalini12]

Year of Hell never happened. By the end of the episode everything was reset back to the start.

[@Evil-Shenanigans]

What still bugs me about that episode is that no one on the ship ever thought "gee, should we run a temporal simulaiton where we erase the ship from history? The one thing that screwed over our timeline from the begining. A sorta 'fix the first mistake' kinda thing?....Nah, wast of [wait for it] TIME!"

[@shaunwatson6354]

Bro I sat here with my head in my hands for most of this video, thinking of all the possibilities...this was a good one! Thank you!

[@vic5015]

Frankly, the Universe class is *so* big, i can't help wondering if its possibly a generational ship.

[@TheZamaron]

I assume there arn't that many, I like to think of it as the most powerful class of ship at the time, essentially a mobile Starbase. Doesn't need to ba a generational ship as who knows how fast Warp Drive could be at the time.

[@vic5015]

​@@TheZamaronmy point is that this thing probably could contain most, if not all, of the amenities of a city. You just can't step outside.

[@TheZamaron]

@@vic5015 Agreed, LIke I said "mobile Starbase", it's very likely it would never need to return to a Starbase and is self sustaining, though of course it would eventually return to Federation space if needed for an emergency or for just any reason, but never NEEDS to at least for repair and resupply. Thus the term "Universe class" is very fitting if this is true.

[@TheRezro]

@@vic5015 Considering that 26'th century was peak point of Iconian War. Point of universe class could be to host entire populations in time when whole planets can be potentially erased from the time. In short they basically could be flying shipyards. Ensuring that Temporal Forces stay operational even if entire Federation would be erased.

[@vic5015]

​​@@TheRezro consider also the square cube law. The internal volume of the J must be *gargantuan* ! At 2 miles (about 3.3km) long, it's more than *5x* the length of the Enterprise-D. Which gives it an astounding *125+x* the volume of the already *massive* 1701D. At least. No wonder you need transporters to get around inside!

[@vic5015]

The name "Paladin class" implies a more combat-focused vessel. After all, Paladins in fantasy are soldiers, specifically heavily armored knights that are often used as elite shock troops.

[@TheAgent0060]

Defense-combat-hospitaler hybrid ship

[@rekrn12345]

Your definition of what a Paladin is is very far off the mark lol.

[@shauntempley9757]

That is not a Paladin. They heal allies and kill enemies with the same abilities, and are typically defensive in function. Starfleet's entire philosophy is based on that very Paladin concept.

[@Immudzen]

I really like the 31st century Eternal science vessel. Of course my ship is broken as hell but still cool.

[@Lia-zw1ls7tz7o]

1:51 That ship class looks amazing! I would love to see its interior!

[@scoterf]

It would be be an interesting time to base a show, the start of intergalactic dimplomacy, trade, combat and ofc exploration.

[@cujoedaman]

With the exception of the time travel part, Star Trek has turned into Star Wars by the 26th century. Nice.

[@jadapinkett1656]

Yeah. You can thank Abrams and Paramount for that.

[@cujoedaman]

@@jadapinkett1656 Star Trek Online releases a new version of a previous ship almost every month now. The Enterprise is up to G (I think) already and F only came out a couple months ago. Slow down!

[@DavidHaft1970]

Question. If the Kelvin Empire met the crew of the Enterprise in the Kelvin Timeline and that Enterprise has Transwarp. How long would it have taken to get to the Andromeda galaxy?

[@samuelvine]

Hmm, maybe EC Henry would know this answer, or at least could estimate. I remember him doing a lot of math work with different types of FTL speeds a while back.

[@WujekFu]

In the episode "Dark Frontier" thanks to stolen Tranwarp coil Voyager traveled 20 000 light years in 20 days. So it's roughly 1000 light years daily. The Andromeda Galaxy is around 2600000 light years from Earth so it would took over 7 years to get there.

[@Buddy74656]

I keep wondering if that transwarp conduit that opened in season 2 of Picard was in some way related to the Kelvans or possibly the Iconians.

[@fastest_mia]

I thought what daniels showed archer is the original timeline where the xindi don't destroy earth as the federation exists in it? Like if what daniels showed archer is the timeline where the xindi succeeded then the federation wouldn't have existed.

[@GSBarlev]

Yeah, same. The whole deal with the Xindi member of Starfleet.

[@CrankyDoodleDandy]

Completely agree with you. Think the author of this forgot that

[@GSBarlev]

I always wondered if the starships of the 26th century being "grown" indicated that their ships were partially biological, or maybe comprised of the Farpoint species (willingly) paired with a drive section and other mechanical bits.

[@Shapes_Quality_Control]

Farpoint may have inspired Starfleet to look into the possibility of biological materials to augment their technology. The first born child of this approach was likely the bio-neural gel pack first tested on Voyager which itself was something of an experimental design.

[@Nostripe361]

I could also see it being completely manufactured but as you use programmable matter it could grow and heal. Like the hull is made of nanobots that act like the biological cells of a living being; doing their job in the ship and sealing and healing hull breaches

[@thenerdfulspirit]

Or Vorlons 😂

[@serina3872]

The thesus reminds me of a fan design that looks like a hybrid of the odyssey and Promethus class's

[@feralprocessor9853]

Pretty interesting to experience time travel being introduced to you from someone from the future.

[@nisto1518]

Very very intriguing. I'd love to see this be the direction of Canon. There are so many possibilities.

[@TheRezro]

I really like design of this era, because they look sleek and alien, without being boring like late Disco ships.

[@Kiara_Vitani]

These ships look more futuristic, disco ships look like toilet paper and in pieces

[@TheRezro]

@@Kiara_Vitani I mean. Technically they do align with design of ships from that period like Verne class. My largest problem is that Burn would be good way to explain how Temporal War ended. Instead we get a nonsense.

[@locutus9956]

Indeed, the folks who worked on Trek back then knew what they were doing... this stuff all looked crazy advanced and far beyond 'current' Star Trek tech.. Discovery's 32nd century stuff feels like its trying too hard and just feels fake and CGI (I know obviously its ALL Fake and CGI but teh earlier trek shows and their visions of future starfleet managed to feel crazy advanced but still just grounded enough to feel like they might atually exist.

[@locutus9956]

@@TheRezro 100% agree with you here, honestly the explanation for 'the burn' for me was where Discover well and truly lost me, there were so many far far better fan theories as to how it could have been caused, hell you practically had it gift wrapped with Omega particles etc already in lore but they went with 'magic space child had a meltdown and blew up all the dilithium becase sadness' As writting goes, its right up there with 'somehow Palpatine returned'. I feel like a grumpy old man but I swear 'back in my day' our sci fi at least TRIED to seem vaguely plausible, beyond our current level of understanding sure but still close enough that you could kind of think 'yeah with a few hundred years of scientiic advancement this could happen'

[@TheRezro]

@@locutus9956 The problem with the Star Trek is that, while its ship design is brilliant and they near future stuff was decent for the 60's (where they didn't know that Congress would cut NASA budget delaying us for few decades after Cold War ended). The way how warp actually work and it work through concept subspace, what is actually fantastical real beyond explaining all those crazy anomalies. What BTW is itself ancient aliens infrastructure run by morally ambiguous AI (and no, they do not know that in the lore until T'iconians return in late 25'th century). So the problem is not lack of realism or though. It is that they waste potential.

[@JasonWolfGames]

Were the clips of the battle from Star Trek Online? Is so, I need to get into the game and play that mission.

[@Jeff55369]

You should consider, what was shown to archer may have been purposefully shown in order to tell a narrative / limit timeline pollution. For all we know, that scene with the battle outside the window may have been inside a holodeck, manufactured specifically for archer.

[@AmeliaNeek]

Excellent again.

[@Jogproof]

I hope that the Kelvin empire get a look in During Disco or SF Academy because they could be really interesting

[@rubaiyat300]

It and other more esoteric aliens might be where some of the weirder shaped ships come from in 32nd century Starfleet.

[@evilchaosboy]

Wow! That is some _heavy_ sit! \m/

[@TheZamaron]

I like to think these ships are from the 26th Century of the STO timeline, the Prime Timeline ending with Star Trek Nemesis were it splits into the STO timeline if Data's memories fully took to B4's body and lived vs the Picard timeline where he "died" so to speak, and eventually leads to the future where the Burn galactic event occured that we hear about in Discovery Season 3. The player ships we see in STO I like to think are just cosmetic replicas of 26th Century ships, keeping some of their basic tach without being to revealing of future advancements, allowed due to the major involvement the Temporal Cold War is having on th time of STO, and many Temporal Agents are recruited form this period due to being a period that experiances so much war and constant conflict of some kind, thus forging some of the most battle hardened officers. eventually after STO's story wraps up I like to think these ships will all be destroyed or somehow sent to the 26th Century.

[@Lia-zw1ls7tz7o]

I wonder how big these ships are. Take the Theseus class: how large and how long is it? How many decks does it have? The windows look very small so it's likely larger than 24th century starships.

[@marvelboy74]

While the Andromeda galaxy is the closest larger galaxy to the Milky Way, there are several smaller galaxies in our cluster, including the Large and Small Magellanic Clouds. There would be a lot to explore prior to going to the Andromeda galaxy. Slipstream drive would make about a 2 week trip to get these locations but there would still be a lot to gain from exploring the smaller galaxies. I could see the Universe class being use as temporary staging grounds for exploring these smaller galaxies, allowing smaller star ships to have a closer space station for repairs, supplies, etc until a more permanent presence could be grown.

[@spicyfoodchaser9406]

Would you ever do personnel file on Dr. Gillian Taylor from star trek 4 voyage home

[@Max_Flashheart]

Great video

[@shingshongshamalama]

They did it! They finally made their first real GSV! Well done, Federation.

[@chasethevioletsun9996]

While 32nd century ships are outwardly smaller than the Universe class, its worth pointing out many of them are dimensionally transcendental, TARDIS-style.

[@rubaiyat300]

With holographic ships and phase cloak that's easy enough to do with 32nd century Trek tech without even invoking Timelord stuff. And if that neutronium hull stuff is legit, you can pilot what looks like a tiny shuttle and simply BUILD a larger ship out of tiny microscopic bits of neutronium that would expand to massive amounts of "normal" matter as needed all hidden under phase cloak. So you could park a tiny shuttle somewhere and under the surface would be your out of phase 40 other decks of ship.

[@casbot71]

Some thoughts; Has the Kelvin Empire changed at all since the TOS era? They might not be static with the same motives, situation or tech. And as for temporal agents, it's not just the ability to time travel in the 29th century, it's the theoretical science and ability to monitor the timestreams - and understand its effects and causes and cause and effect.

[@3.142-x3b]

So temporal agencies moving to the 29th century as a base of operations?

[@toriasdax2166]

I have a weird Question… What happens when the Federation Runs out of letters to put on the Enterprise, like once the Enterprise Z is eventually decommissioned or destroyed what do they do next? Take other letters from other Alphabets?

[@rayvenkman2087]

They’d start with Enterprise AA. Starfleet realised too late on why people laughs when the Betazoid captain announces the Enterprise DD to other hailed ships.

[@Beuwen_The_Dragon]

Honestly, they should have just stopped at ‘A”. It was a symbolic gesture for the Crew of the Enterprise for saving Earth.. No other ship In Starfleet has a letter after it’s name, meaning only the Enterprise is given this treatment.. realistically, once the Enterprise A was Decommissioned, the next ship in the line would be given a New Registry and be named Enterprise. I love TNG, always have, but TNG keeping the alphabet prefix was rather silly, and was only done to denote a passage of time.

[@WinterRav3n]

🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:01 🌌 *Starfleet in the 26th Century Overview* - An overview of Starfleet in the 26th century. - Mention of the Battle of Procyon Five as a pivotal moment in time. - Introduction of the USS Enterprise NCC-1701-J and Universe Class starship. 02:21 🚀 *Universe Class Starships* - Discussion of the Universe Class starships and their purpose. - Speculation about Starfleet's expansion into unknown regions. - Mention of other ship designs introduced in Star Trek Online. 05:20 ⏲️ *Temporal Capabilities of Starfleet Ships* - Explanation of the temporal capabilities of Theseus, Nautilus, Sagittarius, and Paladin Temporal Starships. - Details on time-related effects and molecular reconstruction technology. 07:32 🚢 *Starfleet and Other Powers* - Mention of Klingons and Romulans' involvement with the Federation. - Discussion about the Xindi, the Borg, and the Cooperative. - Noting the Q continuum's reduced involvement with the Federation. 09:20 🌟 *The Kelvan Empire and Berlinghoff Rasmussen* - Information about the Kelvan Empire's contact with the Federation. - Speculation on the Kelvan Empire's role as a potential adversary/alliance. - Mention of Berlinghoff Rasmussen's questionable technology and origin. 11:03 🌌 *Conclusion and Future of Starfleet* - Summary of Starfleet's expansion and alliances in the 26th century. - Speculation on Starfleet's focus on intergalactic exploration. - Mention of potential threats and challenges in this era. Made with HARPA AI

[@Bubble_0f_d00m]

No mention of the Federation still using a bunch of Nova class ships? We saw a few with the Enterprise J. "Look at our sleek future fleet, oh and there's Carl dragging his antique to this fight."

[@feralprocessor9853]

Very smooth future ships

[@BennyLlama39]

Ric: "These colossal vessels are, so far, the biggest Starfleet has ever constructed." Me: I'd argue they're also the ugliest. It looks like someone slapped a modified Gungan sub onto a Galaxy-class saucer, then stuck the whole thing on an oversized mid-century hood ornament. 😒

[@skywise001]

Aww I hoped you would mention the STO 31st century ships. I fly the Eternal Temporal Multi-Mission Science Vessel. :)

[@davidvanvranken1595]

I thought Daniels said the Klingons were absorbed into the Federation by then

[@randybentley2633]

I know that they were trying to make a correlation in design with the NX-01 when it came to how the 1701-J looked, but I much prefer the version that has a secondary hull. As for turbolifts in the Era of site-site transporting, it'd make sense to make each lift an internal use transporter room that could also move when needed.

[@ObsidianBlk]

Doesn't Discovery S4 make any discussion about exploring the Andromeda galaxy, let alone the Universe at large, difficult? In DIS-S4 they, basically, say there's still a galactic barrier and even with the most modern tech it was exceedingly difficult to break free from it... in the 32nd century. How would Starfleet of the 26th century be able to escape the barrier when Starfleet 6 centuries later was still having a bit of an issue with it?

[@elliepira8400]

To me the Enterprise J always made sense and I like how these future ships look compared to disco. The J always struck me as a Starfleet colony that could travel. Basically if you're travelling between galaxies, take home with you. These journeys would need everything a colony or planet needs and enough people to run all kinds of missions and colonization so far from home that you simply can't get more supplies or personnel, so strap a warp drive to a whole colony and let starfleet take their society and world with them.

[@robertkalinic335]

I would assume that so far in future and after so much cultural progress, they would have enough inspiration to name their ships something different and not so generic, or even get past concept of ships and naming them.

[@thenerdfulspirit]

Did Vulcan leave the Federation before the reunion?

[@chapperschannel7466]

2:37 ahh the good old famous ship "OBJECT NX 76884"

[@allengorecki2792]

To quote spoks Favorite saying I find the video To be fascinating.

[@jimb8601]

I really wish the Enterprise G had been one of those 4 ships you highlighted instead of the neo Constitution. Each looks advanced and new and not a retread of an older ship design.

[@Mate397]

How did the universe class plan to bypass the barrier around the Milkyway?

[@joeclerkin2653]

Wonder if the Dominion is still around at this time and what their relationship with the Federation is.

[@locutus9956]

So concerning the Battle of Procyon IV and stuff surrounding it I think youve missed the point there slightly. Daniles took archer there to show him the sphere builders being defeated by the Federation. This is what is supposed to happen in the prime timeline with the Xindi being stopped, the Xindi weapon and all the other temporarl shenaningans surrounding that were attempting to destroy/prevent the Federations existence precicely to change that event (ie there would be no Federation to stop them at that point in time. The Xindi were stopped, the Federation was formed all the rest plays out normally. The Sphere builders werent destroyed/stopped fully by Archer, and still try to invade etc in the 26th century but as all the other plots failed, the Federation, Starfleet and the Enterprise J were all there to stop them and win the battle as they were eant to.

[@CalGarian-qn9pw]

USS Castor Wheel at 4:37

[@Zeithri]

Always liked the Universe class, but I have to say I laugh my ass of whenever I think of the meme. It went something like " _Things STO players know_ " and it's a list of stuff, one of them being " _Blotting out of the sun from a single Universe class_ " XD

[@rayvenkman2087]

The Universe Class eats Doomsday Machines like burritos for dinner and DS9 needs an adapter just to dock it.

[@studiomagi]

the thing is that, if you can traverse time, any distance between two points in space might be trivial.

[@AEFisch]

Since Archer got the Xindi coin from the Enterprise J, the resolution with them was likely built into that time line. Certainly the destruction of the Earth would unlikely enable that situation on the "J"

[@davidhernandez9985]

I hope that Starfleet has a Nebula-Class starship, the best starship in the fleet; some say The Galaxy-class is better. But the Neblua is faster and more sterner. Live long and sponsor, & Happy New Year,🖖🏼!

[@ultramaximusreviews]

Hmmm could one day the United Federation of Planets evolve into the United Federation of Galaxies?

[@thenerdfulspirit]

Always wanted a "Time Trek" series? That may be some time! Also, looks like the Enterprise J was built using technology "borrowed"/inherited from both the Vorlons and the Culture

[@adamlytle2615]

You know, I really wish they had jumped ahead to this era when they brought Trek back to TV in 2017, rather than going back to the TOS era like they did. An Enterprise J sized ship traversing the void between the Milky Way and Andromeda would have been the perfect way to let a new Star Trek show break new ground in story telling. You could have all the previous lore represented on the ship itself, but let NEW things be the main drivers of the stories being told. In fact, you know what a good name would be for a show like that? Star Trek: Discovery. And if you were to design a new ship to be city-sized, it would be pretty cool to pay homage to DS9's design by including a habitat ring surrounded by a docking ring for scout craft. There could be a central core for operations management and the main bridge. Say in a sphere right in the middle. Maybe configure all that business to be the "saucer" of the ship. Get it? I'm describing the design for the Discovery, just with (IMO) a much better justification for having a segmented design like that. I honestly think that blown up to this scale, with a reasonably cool "exotic far future* design aesthetic, there would not be NEARLY the fan backlash that we saw to the actual USS Discovery. I'm picturing the docking ring to be similar to the spacedock design, large enough to house what we'd consider conventional Starfleet ships. Maybe up to Excelsior length? The habitat ring I'm picturing as one continuous concourse/arboretum thing with terraced apartments on either side. Maybe with an aquatic biome version on the ventral side.

[@adamlytle2615]

The Universe class presents us with a more justifiable version of the "city in space" idea that they tried for with the Galaxy class. With the Galaxy, it always seemed INSANE that they would bring children into dangerous exploration situations. But with something like the Universe class, both the sheer size of the ship and the fact that it is making a journey to a whole other galaxy over the course of maybe decades (possibly seeding colonies along the way? ) makes the concept seem reasonable. Especially if the ship is more like a mobile HQ, deploying scout ships to do the actual front line exploration to snoop out any dangerous situations.

[@rubaiyat300]

I think that this was the intended idea for the Galaxy class in real life that got changed somewhere along the process of TNG's development. As you say it makes sense, to have civilians and families and luxurious accommodations, if you are sticking people in a tin can for the rest of their lives, but also even the name Galaxy class sorta implies going to other galaxies or at LEAST easily traveling through this one. And a continuing mission vs 5 year one sorta implies the Captain and crew are in it for the foreseeable future because there is nowhere for them to get off. And I guess lastly would be starting the adventure at Farpoint station, seems an odd thing that a place named that can be reached from Earth (or have a ship return there...) so easily.

[@adamlytle2615]

@@rubaiyat300 oh wow yeah that all makes perfect sense. Not sure I ever thought of that

[@francescozenocchini4428]

I hope that ST: Legacy is made. But otherwise i wouldn't have in mind have a new show set in the Late 25th and Early 26th Century focused on the Enterprise I or J or a new ship that doesn't have to be the Enterprise. If it happens i want to see things such the Klingons joining the UFP and the exploration of the Andromeda and other galaxies.

[@jds1275]

I'm not really a fan of the artistic style of the 25th century ships. But this was very interesting.

[@shanenolan5625]

The klingons are named as federation members by Daniels on board enterprise j

[@ikeknight-r7001]

Live Long & Prosper!

[@AC20sAkimbo]

So the glowing yellow bit is a exposed reactor core? That strikes me a haphazard for an advanced space vessel.

[@casbot71]

We can check this video in about a century, when the 'current now' will have carried the Trek IP to that time. And the debut of the new VR neural-slink series - Star Trek: the great grandchildrens generation.

[@raphaelsainte-claire4861]

warp drive is a means of relativistic travel, so this would mean that it is a form of time travel on its own?

[@warmstrong5612]

The Nautilus reminds me of the 'Peepers' from Subnautica.

[@feralprocessor9853]

A bright future for the Vulcans

[@daedalusdreamjournal5925]

just a note: There is a type in the timestamps: Introduction is mispelled Introduciton. Other than that, really enjoying your videos :)

[@stevengalloway8052]

🤔 Kelvin Empire. Kelvin timeline. Coincidence? 😏😆

[@davidvincent5701]

Maybe in twenty years we'll get a series timed in the twenty sixth century.

[@thenerdfulspirit]

Oh, time travel would be very useful in observing an extinct or developing civilization

[@Werezilla]

I bet that Rasmussen guy stole his time ship from Daniels.

[@daniels7907]

It seems as if the Temporal War led to a major regression in technology, as much of what 32nd century Starfleet has is not that far ahead of what 26th century Starfleet did. They obviously also lost certain crucial capabilities, such as opening spacetime portals and transwarp transporters. Perhaps these technologies had some time travel component to them that made them illegal to use after the war?

[@tsbscotland]

I'll bet ya the Excelsior class is still in operation though 😂

[@FredrikKarlsson-p1u]

I think we need an second "First Contact 2" were borg getting much stronger and we can assimilation their technology

[@AndiDoubleV]

The ships got smaller after the J because they were able to fold space within the ships e.g. time shuttle etc

[@Strykenine]

I generally like the ship designs, but I feel like at some point they become too long and thin. Ships like the Titan (later Enterprise - G) and the Stargazer class are really the way I think ship design should go. The reason I feel this way is that those ships have a lot of detail and texture, which resolves well on modern displays. Star Trek is a show, after all (and movies) which is a visual medium. The Universe-class just looks weird and I have never liked it. I think it looks they way it does because of the limitations of CGI at the time Enterprise released. I should know, I watched Enterprise on a CRT television twenty years ago. Also, at some point the scale of these ships overwhelms the narrative structure of episodic storytelling. It's kind of a meta-discussion, but Trek has always been about exploring and travelling into the unknown and these huge ships can break narrative tension. I really want a series set in the post-Picard era where we get to see the direction the Federation goes. Problem is that DS9 and Voyager had GREAT antagonists that were essentially resolved at the end of their shows. The Borg have been milked to death and Picard may have finally killed them, but the Dominion could still be scary if treated right. More meta-discussion maybe, but ships are a huge part of Trek. They are at least 50% of the setting, and just like the Federation I think the storytellers are making them a little too OP. They need to be toned down to something that feels like it could be in danger. Cool video. What does everyone have against secondary hulls, anyway?

[@Beuwen_The_Dragon]

I always felt that Starfleet had a specific aesthetic, and the longer the series goes on, the further from this aesthetic they get.. The TOS, TMP era had a somewhat grounded feel, being so far in the future, but believable. TNG, DS9 and VOY were a considerably more advanced, but still recognizable, still relatively grounded.. These newer ships, the newer aesthetics, they’re just so, generically ‘alien”, and so removed from the Starfleet Aesthetic that you could say they are ‘xignorphians of the Tkulith empire” and I’d believe it, certainly a lot sooner than I’d believe they’re Starfleet ships…

[@mike_jwoww]

Its so strange to see those weird pylons essentially clip through the necels lmao. Did we ever find out of that actually served a purpose?

[@dswynne]

Well, there are a number of "dwarf galaxies" that orbit the Milky Way that needs exploring.

[@TK199999]

There were still big chunks of the Alpha and Beta Quadrants still unexplored by the 25th century. Star Trek has never been very good at showing how freakn' huge the space/galaxy really is, even with FTL. So we don't know their effect on galactic politics. I also find it dubious the Kelvins would peaceful or accept peace. The only reason Kirks encounter with them turned out okay. Is because those Kelvins chose to taken on humanoid bodies. The rest of the Kelvin Empire would probably not do the same and there is no guarantee that other empires from Andromeda wouldn't have the same plans as the Kelvins. At the same time the dwarf galaxies that surround the Milky Way could also hold threats or powerful star nations that could cause trouble for rest of the galaxy.

[@klausernstthalheim9642]

what i personally dislike the tendency bigger and more powerful ships.......i know its natural but at a certain point it feels like a number competition......i mean there should be a specific task for the ships......nah this ship is the size of the moon, has 500 super duper phasor banks and its a science ship

[@heatheradams4221]

A little odd that the Kelvin could not find a new home in their own galaxy and were looking to go to a different galaxy.

[@CertifiablyIngame]

This ties into a plot thread that has not been touched since, and it was kind of a big deal! That Andromeda is being consumed by lethal radiation from an unknown source.

[@TheRezro]

I mean. Discovery straight confirm that Romulan-Vulcan reunification did happen prior to Burn.

[@grahamturner1290]

🖖

[@borusa32]

Star Trek works best in the 22nd to 24th centuries, after that the technobabble becomes overwhelming. Temporal Core indeed-they may as well move to Gallifrey.

[@user-pf3gd1zd2i]

With the ships of that time being grown, maybe they learned something about the biology of Tin-Man.