.270 win vs .30-06 sprfld Hornady Superformance GMX

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3 жыл бұрын

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.270 Winchester or .30-06 Springfield? Which is better? Flatter shooting .270 or better bullet selection .30-06? Let's put these two cartridges head to head in the awesome hornady GMX round.
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@randomkadrmas2630
@randomkadrmas2630 Жыл бұрын
In Oregon where it's not uncommon to take a 300-400 yard shot, I use the .270 130 gr for the flat trajectory.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics Жыл бұрын
That's a good choice
@sparky_-mf2cs
@sparky_-mf2cs 2 жыл бұрын
Im a 270 guy but you cant deny the 30 06 is one of the very best. Both old.both great.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@gk5891
@gk5891 7 ай бұрын
I think Elmer Keith said it best, "A .270 is a damned adequate coyote rifle" Seriously though a .270 Win with a decent 150 gr cup and core or 130 gr mono is more than adequate for anything that isn't dangerous. I've seen more than one 600 lb Waterbuck taken with a .270 Win. One thing for sure, it's a whole lot easier on the shoulder than a .300 Win Mag when you need a flat shooter.
@Birdfan465
@Birdfan465 4 ай бұрын
I have bothe not scared of either one
@Birdfan465
@Birdfan465 4 ай бұрын
@@gk5891 told a guy once that I harvested a good bull elk with a 130grn out of my 270. . I would be scared to shoot anything on the face of the earth with my 270 he told me sonny here is a lot of differences between a elk and a elephant. Thought a moment and told him just alot of miles. 😁
@YellowHammer26
@YellowHammer26 3 жыл бұрын
I've killed numerous deer with both calibers and didn't notice any difference in performance between the two. They're both great calibers. The thing about the 30 06 is you have a much wider range of bullet weights which makes it more versatile. Thanks for your video.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Lance
@easttexan2933
@easttexan2933 Жыл бұрын
Lance, I wholeheartedly agree with your assessment. Both great rounds. At 77 years old I prefer lighter recoil and since 2000 I have been shooting a custom sporterized M96 6.5x55 Swede. Now you talk about a sweet round !!!
@YellowHammer26
@YellowHammer26 Жыл бұрын
@@easttexan2933 👍👍yeah I’m soon to be 69 and these days I shoot the .260 Remington a lot. Definitely a lot less recoil
@easttexan2933
@easttexan2933 Жыл бұрын
@@YellowHammer26 fine choice.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics Жыл бұрын
.260 rem is nice
@claytondennis8034
@claytondennis8034 Жыл бұрын
I've owned several different hunting rifles over the years and I've always come back to a 270 or a 30-06. They're both great "Do all" rifle calibers.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics Жыл бұрын
They're not bad for sure
@Just_a_Tool
@Just_a_Tool 3 жыл бұрын
I think the real surprise of this video was finding ammo to shoot.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Been saving it up for years
@exposingthedarknesswiththe9190
@exposingthedarknesswiththe9190 3 жыл бұрын
Too funny!! 😏🙂
@Akhazmat907
@Akhazmat907 3 жыл бұрын
Go to gun runners in anchorage lol
@NORTHBROOK1978
@NORTHBROOK1978 3 жыл бұрын
.270 isn't hard to get.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
@@NORTHBROOK1978 nonexistent here
@davidwhite5858
@davidwhite5858 3 жыл бұрын
The number one caliber used on the African plains animal is the .270 WINCHESTER. Been there and done it...
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Nice! What did you get?
@davidwhite5858
@davidwhite5858 3 жыл бұрын
Wildebeests
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Nice good eating?
@davidwhite5858
@davidwhite5858 3 жыл бұрын
👍
@reo9673
@reo9673 2 жыл бұрын
I think Jack O'Conner said it best in one of his books, to paraphrase him- "I have three rifles in 270 and three rifles in 30-06 and that's how I feel about that." Although he felt the 30-06 was more versatile. Thank you for posting your tests. Valuable information.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching. You're right, can't go wrong with either. Good hunting and Godspeed.
@jacstocker5100
@jacstocker5100 2 жыл бұрын
More elephants have been killed by 30 06 with heavier bullets than any other caliber so I've heard
@dustynconfer9495
@dustynconfer9495 2 жыл бұрын
I personally hunt with both the 270 and 30-06 I use the 270 for open country for its fast flat trajectory 06 for woodland areas for the
@tomburrows3608
@tomburrows3608 9 ай бұрын
You can't go wrong with either round. All things considered including performance and efficiency and economy they both could still be the best rounds for hunting period. That being said I will give the nod to the flatter shooting 270 for my needs here in AZ.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 9 ай бұрын
Fair enough! Thanks for watching and the comment. Godspeed and good hunting my friend.
@carterthiessen2664
@carterthiessen2664 3 жыл бұрын
Most people would compare a 130gr 270 to a 150gr 30-06, but the BC and SD are much different. Good on you for choosing the 165, much better comparison. I own both calibers but only hunt whitetail deer so I don't think they will care which one I use!
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Very true. Thank you
@Me2Lancer
@Me2Lancer 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comparison. Both are great cartridges. I lean toward the 270 primarily due to its flatter trajectory.
@lancemiller9110
@lancemiller9110 Жыл бұрын
I agree only to the terrain you hunt and your position on the terrain. If you are flat shooting across 300 to 500 yards, yes the .270 will be more consistent than the ol’ government workhorse. You get into the hills, mountains, or any scenario with shooting angles 10 degrees or more, up or downhill, and the flat shooting rifle doesn’t matter. You have to understand and really “get to know” your rifle in these situations.
@shayneyoung5394
@shayneyoung5394 Жыл бұрын
Excellent comparison. If you want a true apples to apples comparison between two calibers you always get the bullets that are the closest in ballistic coefficients and sectional density.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Agreed
@hillbillyscholar8126
@hillbillyscholar8126 Жыл бұрын
Impressive results all around for both types of ammunition. The velocity of the .270 was actually what it should have been!
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics Жыл бұрын
Yes this was good ammunition and loading
@countercivilization
@countercivilization 3 жыл бұрын
The 270 was much faster and destructive a the range you shoot! Looking at the bullet, the 270 would reliability open at much greater distance than its parent case... 270 and cooper bullet are a very good match imo!
@joshland7826
@joshland7826 2 жыл бұрын
I own a .270 and a .30-06 both. Which one I take depends on where I'm going hunting. Love both of them. Now, if I'm hunting in thick brush, I'll take my .444 marlin.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 2 жыл бұрын
A great choice
@jakeh6980
@jakeh6980 Жыл бұрын
I started hunting on the 270 and two years later got my 30-06. I’ve dropped every deer on the first shot with my 30-06 but I shoot 180 or 200 grain. I never killed on the first shot with my 270. Of course that’s on the cartridge and what not. I just prefer my 30-06 and that will always be my rifle
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy your .30-06
@christopherlanning4260
@christopherlanning4260 3 жыл бұрын
Both are very good rounds can't knock either one but myself personally I like the 270 better
@alansindex9101
@alansindex9101 3 жыл бұрын
Me too! I commented before I saw this but we agree thay both get it done.
@warrentoay6893
@warrentoay6893 2 жыл бұрын
Like your videos. Wondering if you feel gmx or sst is better for hunting or not much difference.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 2 жыл бұрын
Gmx by far... sst tends to break apart too quickly though people seam to live to argue with me on that
@warrentoay6893
@warrentoay6893 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics thanks for the help
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 2 жыл бұрын
sure thing
@blindboyjonny
@blindboyjonny 3 жыл бұрын
The old Jack O’Connor versus Elmer Keith controversy. Lighter and faster versus heavier and slower. Either one will do. Great video… Thanks for your effort.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir for watching
@frankpryor4839
@frankpryor4839 2 жыл бұрын
That brings back memories, Jack O'Connor/Elmer Keith. I leaned more toward Elmer, "you can eat right up to the hole with a 44, those fast bullets cause blood shot and tare up the meat". Those were some good day's the O'Connor Keith days 👍
@johnmorganjr769
@johnmorganjr769 Ай бұрын
Its always a pleasure. We know people in Ak. actually USE their gear !! Have a blessed summer !!🌲🐟🐧🐾
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics Ай бұрын
You too, Godspeed and good hunting.
@clapton924
@clapton924 3 жыл бұрын
An animal couldn't tell the difference. Both did excellent. Those GMX bullets are impressive.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
They are good bullets. Didn't group well out of .270 though
@clapton924
@clapton924 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics I'm sure you could get some good groups with hand loads.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
We'll see...
@lurking0death
@lurking0death 3 жыл бұрын
Just for safety, if I am in Alaska, I will opt for the 30'06 or maybe even 300 win mag. I really am against being run down and eaten by large bears.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
With these bullets. Either will do
@MrJonrocker
@MrJonrocker 3 жыл бұрын
Sitting here in Va getting the last of my move lined up, looking forward to getting home to Ak tomorrow. Shipped out about 10,000 rounds of accumulated ammo yesterday! Ready for caribou.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@rudrashakti108
@rudrashakti108 3 жыл бұрын
Those 10,000 rounds ain’t just for them caribou. Let’s be honest...
@jwat2396
@jwat2396 2 жыл бұрын
The penetration being virtually the same and the 270 with much less drop along with the less wind drift plus the damage looked more extensive as well with the 270. I believe with the higher speed would cause a larger temporary wound channel which would disrupt more tissue causing more organ damage and bring on a faster kill. With less recoil I believe I'll choose the 270.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 2 жыл бұрын
That's a great choice
@rocar716
@rocar716 Жыл бұрын
Youre a believer 😅 👍
@RickNethery
@RickNethery 3 жыл бұрын
One thing that amazes me about the 30 06 is that although the industry standard for the cartridge is capped at 60,000 PSI per Sami Specifications Hornaday has managed to safely squeeze 200 more feet per second out of a 150 grain bullet. 😉
@johnhughes1140
@johnhughes1140 3 жыл бұрын
To get over 2900 fps with that long 165 gr GMX out of a 22" barrel is really impressive! GMX bullets because are less dense than lead and this weight for weight against a lead core bullet makes the longers requiring they be seated deeper leaving less room for powder. All combined the performance they are achieving is nothing short of amazing. Its creaping in on the heals of a 300 win mag shot from a 22" barrel. Great job Hornady!
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Their superformance loads tend to get really high velocities because of the powder.
@fivex4756
@fivex4756 3 жыл бұрын
It is due to advances in the powders used, and I have noticed it is across the board for other cartridges as well.
@inupik23
@inupik23 3 жыл бұрын
I've got a 165 grain trophy bonded tip load for my 30-06 averaging 2970fps. But that's out of a 23.5" barrel. H4350 does the trick.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
That's a sweet load
@nathanmanley4203
@nathanmanley4203 3 жыл бұрын
Both look great but I would personally take the 270 in this comparison. I've got issues with my neck n shoulder so less recoil is nice lol.
@holmesfamily2058
@holmesfamily2058 2 жыл бұрын
Both look like a great choice for medium game 300 LBS up. I own both rifles, and the 270 is and always will be my go to for North American game
@jimbro650
@jimbro650 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the video 👍 I like both of them but I will go with the 30-06 with the GMX because I have both, but after viewing this video now I have to get the 270🦌 Thanks 🇺🇸 GOD BLESS AMERICA, The right to keep and bear arms shall not 🚫 be INFRINGED 👍🇺🇸
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Never infringed
@kashwilburn7813
@kashwilburn7813 6 ай бұрын
I’ve got a J C Higgins model 50 in .270 I’ve had since 1964, I was 18 then, I’m 77 now and don’t hunt anymore, so my son will take it over.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 6 ай бұрын
Nice
@Voxguitarsrock
@Voxguitarsrock 3 жыл бұрын
I own both and I've shot deer with them. The critters can't tell the difference. Dead is dead. I do prefer the 270 if distances get longer though. Cheers
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment and watching brother!
@jw3946
@jw3946 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to see the 270 Winchester compared to the 270 WSM. The results should be so similar. You would be the perfect one to do this comparison.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the suggestion I am going to have to find somebody that I it's going to have to find somebody that has A270WSM and we're gonna have to fuck USM and we're gonna have to find similar ammo.... It'll probably be next year before I get to it but remind me. Thank you for watching and for the suggestion!
@rockie307
@rockie307 3 жыл бұрын
30-06 is better all around and for larger animals. If I could only have one big game rifle 30-06 would be it. 270 is great though
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
I agree
@cliffcorbitt9494
@cliffcorbitt9494 3 жыл бұрын
Yup 30 06. Or 308 in a semi auto .
@kevi152
@kevi152 3 жыл бұрын
Nope ! 375 h&h without a doubt.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
. 375 ruger is even better
@exposingthedarknesswiththe9190
@exposingthedarknesswiththe9190 2 жыл бұрын
Have you seen the ballistics on both?
@NYPrepper
@NYPrepper 3 жыл бұрын
I never tested the GMX, but have gotten great results with TTSX. Great test as usual. Have to catch up on your videos been busy.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
They're similar bullets. I've found ttsx to be more accurate
@Mark-uq9km
@Mark-uq9km 3 жыл бұрын
Both are wonderful rounds. Thanks for the great video. Living in Florida I don't miss snow.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
I bet not. Thank you for c watching. Godspeed
@MikeSiemens88
@MikeSiemens88 2 жыл бұрын
Great comparison for me as I recently purchased a .270 & own 2 x 30-06 rifles. Dabbling in reloading a bit too, so the near identical performance of the GMX bullets in both calibres gives me good reason to consider them as the go to projectile. I already have a box of GMX bullets in .30 cal, so getting some in .277 now is almost a no brainer. Thx!
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 2 жыл бұрын
They won't open at long distance
@mikehobbs7421
@mikehobbs7421 2 жыл бұрын
Much respect for 30-06, but where I hunt in southern Ontario Canada with caliber restrictions during certain seasons the .270 is king. I sold my 06 for .300win mag that paired with my .270win and 12gauge 870 a country boy can survive! Great video, love your channel! Cheers from Canada eh 🍻🇨🇦🤘
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Godspeed and good hunting
@thinktwice8860
@thinktwice8860 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great vid as always, Chuck!
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome Mike! Thank you for watching!
@cekamsr
@cekamsr 3 жыл бұрын
Really impressive bullets! Perfect uniform mushrooming & decent penetration.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely good bullets. Thank you for watching
@greg6264
@greg6264 2 жыл бұрын
Agree. Very impressive bullet performance.
@patchitwood7428
@patchitwood7428 3 жыл бұрын
I love the GMX projectiles. I have had great success in my 7mm-08 with them. I currently use Barnes VOR-TX 150 gr. in my .30-06, but I would not hesitate to use the Hornady ammo. My rifle likes the Barnes, so I am sticking with it. Greetings from central Kentucky.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah this .270 doesn't group with the gmx. But the .30-06 does with that and the barnes. Trying barnes LRX in the 270 next as well as handloads
@shanevonharten3100
@shanevonharten3100 3 жыл бұрын
Both awsome rounds, have had both but run the .270 for 30 plus years
@guardianminifarm8005
@guardianminifarm8005 3 жыл бұрын
Both are more than adequate within reasonable range. I would lean heavy just because. Both of those rifles are beautiful. Very good. Thank you.
@BlueDart1971
@BlueDart1971 3 жыл бұрын
Another good comparison and another good video.
@bobbidwell6195
@bobbidwell6195 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Ruger M77 in .270 Win, and a Remington 721 in .30-06. Neither has let me down, ever. Very glad I reload both though....
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 2 жыл бұрын
What loads to you use?
@larrysayers1377
@larrysayers1377 3 жыл бұрын
Love your reviews. This past hunting season I used the 165gr GMX Superformance ammo and couldn’t have found a better bullied/ammo for my Sauer 100 30-06. I was very impressed with the accuracy and performance on game this year. This is now my go to hunting bullet/ammo for all game we have here in Western Canada which includes using as a defence round against grizzlies that I seem to see every year in my forays for sheep, elk and moose.
@grant21999
@grant21999 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Sauer 100 30.06. It loves the Hornady rounds lol
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome take any game with it?
@grant21999
@grant21999 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics my son took a boar with his Savage Axis using it. I ended using my bow for a boar 🐗 😅
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 2 жыл бұрын
Good hunting to you both
@larrysayers1377
@larrysayers1377 Жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics shot a whitetail doe and a 5x5 buck. I was very surprised with how both animals reacted to the hit as they dropped on the spot. Now I know all animals react differently and I’ve seen it all my life but it was impressive. I’m wouldn’t hesitate to use 165gr GMX this on elk, moose and bear. Die was at 70yds and buck about 140yds. I shot a young moose with my 7-08 using 139gr GMX Superformance at about 110yds. It dropped on the spot.
@kentuckywindage222
@kentuckywindage222 3 жыл бұрын
Really impressive looking bullets. I will be looking for these in 243 to give a try. Great job my friend! Keep'em coming!
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
The 80gr .243 is very impressive as well. It's in my 6.5 vs .243 video. Needs a 24" barrel like a lot of .243 loads
@jamespugh
@jamespugh 3 жыл бұрын
If u handload the 80gr gmx is still advaliabe in places
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Nice
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Locally or online?
@jamespugh
@jamespugh 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics online . Haven't seen any localy or I would of grabbed them. I found the barns ttsx locally theo. And Remington jsp and Remington jsp bonded. And sirra 60 to 80gr
@fivex4756
@fivex4756 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the good work. I am looking forward to see what a longer heavier GMX type bullet will do in the newer 6.8 Western
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
If i can find a nice savage or Remington rifle I'd be real interested in testing it
@3DOutdoors
@3DOutdoors 3 жыл бұрын
Both of those rounds look impressive.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Very Much so. Don't think the caribou would know the difference
@jamesbromstead4949
@jamesbromstead4949 2 жыл бұрын
I've had both a .30-06 and .270 Win (both in Weatherby Vanguard). I had successful hunts with both. Kept the .30-06 sold the .270 Win.
@douglassweed9758
@douglassweed9758 2 жыл бұрын
God blessyou
@falba1492
@falba1492 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a fan of both. Why did you choose the 30-‘06? I’m always interested in hearing an honest opinion on rifles.
@jamesbromstead4949
@jamesbromstead4949 2 жыл бұрын
@@falba1492 The range of bullet weights for .30-06 (especially the higher weight bullets), and I bought a .25-06.
@falba1492
@falba1492 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesbromstead4949 - I appreciate your insight. The 30-‘06 is definitely more flexible with bullet weights. I got rid of my 25-‘06 when I got a 270, go figure lol.
@jamesbromstead4949
@jamesbromstead4949 2 жыл бұрын
@@falba1492 I had great success with my .270. Ammo is easy to find, Bullet choice is great. It was just so close to my .30-06, it was hard to choose. So I picked the 30 cal. But you can't go wrong with the .270.
@bobcatforever3485
@bobcatforever3485 3 жыл бұрын
Good video. Looks like both of those would do the job well. Thanks, and take care.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you brother and Godspeed
@oldocsimms7411
@oldocsimms7411 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Chuck good comparison !
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Doc
@jasonsliger5430
@jasonsliger5430 3 жыл бұрын
Both are impressive. Here in Louisiana, I'd go with the.270 but if I were going to hunt Alaska, would rather have the 30-06 but .270 most likely would be fine.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's a fair point
@jasoncombs664
@jasoncombs664 2 жыл бұрын
The 270 is a little better on the numbers and penetration because of its speed. The 30-06 has more versatility because of options in bullet weights. Jack O’Connor wasn’t a rookie and knew guns, ballistics and hunting better than anyone and he even picked the .270.
@russellkeeling9712
@russellkeeling9712 2 жыл бұрын
You might want to read more of Jack O'Connor's writing. He chose many rifles and most notably the 7x57. What made the .270 so famous was the invention of affordable scopes by Weaver.
@jasoncombs664
@jasoncombs664 2 жыл бұрын
@@russellkeeling9712 I will if you do the same
@paulhomsy2751
@paulhomsy2751 Жыл бұрын
Jack O'Connor also hunted extenvively with a 30-06 and a 375 H&H. Although he is known and remembered as being a great advocate of the 270 which he shot often, it wasn't at the exclusion of other rounds which he shot as often or more, particularly in Alaska. Gun writers pick a product and run with it. The 270 is a superb round, in my mind it's close to the 7mm Mag with light bullets but the versatility of the 30-06 cannot be discounted. O'Connor used one as much as anyone else.
@jasoncombs664
@jasoncombs664 Жыл бұрын
@@paulhomsy2751 I am absolutely aware that Jack O’Connor did not exclusively hunt with the .270 and I’m also aware that he did for the most part make the .270 famous. I totally agree that the .30-06 is a more versatile round than the .270 as far as bullet weights go which allows the hunting of a little larger game. However if you are hunting deer sized game, you can’t make a animal “more dead” so I would choose the .270 because it’s faster, shoots more flat and has less bullet drop. When it comes to the 7mm rem mag, that round/caliber beats the .30-06 in every single calculation and ballistic category. A more apples to apples comparison would be the 7mm rem mag vs the .300 Win mag. Both are magnum calibers and on a more level playing field.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics Жыл бұрын
@Jason Combs i have a video on 7mm Rem Mag vs. .300 Win Mag
@ashmerch2558
@ashmerch2558 3 жыл бұрын
Both are great... bigger, more power, more penetration or lighter recoil, flatter shooting.. Where I hunt, its impossible to shoot further than 150 yards, and that's why I use my 35 Whelen with 225gr buffalo bore. Never failed on deer, bear and moose
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
That's a good combo for sure
@randyschaff8939
@randyschaff8939 3 жыл бұрын
Nice rifles! I always go for the heavier bullets. Thanks for the chat.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 2 жыл бұрын
Sweet what bullets do you prefer?
@Notreallyme377
@Notreallyme377 2 жыл бұрын
I have had both and think both are outstanding. If you hunt bigger game like moose, bear and elk I’d lean towards 30/06. For deer and pronghorn, 270 is tough to beat.
@mitchellnelms7572
@mitchellnelms7572 3 жыл бұрын
Nice, that 270 expanded a lot faster than the 30-06, probably because of the extra velocity. The expansion of both rounds was textbook perfect.
@allanboyer2769
@allanboyer2769 11 ай бұрын
Along with considerably less mass.
@SJVA
@SJVA Жыл бұрын
Great video. 🎥🎬 Thank you!
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Godspeed and good hunting
@johnknouse8846
@johnknouse8846 3 жыл бұрын
Great ammo. I’ve bought some of both, at $40 a box! But I use Superformance powder on my 30.06 reloads with 150 grain Hornady SST bullets and they are same hole accurate at 100 yards.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Nice. I just wish the SST didn't tear apart so quickly
@mario3804
@mario3804 3 жыл бұрын
Great video brother love the comparison don’t fee you can do wrong with either cartridge.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir
@robthebank9453
@robthebank9453 3 жыл бұрын
Ive got a 30-06 and a 270, and Im not ever selling either!!! Only trouble I have is which one to take Moose hunting in Quebec this October!!!! Awesome video thanks!!
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Both. Need a back up rifle in camp
@gunman-6646
@gunman-6646 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video, I have both calibers. I love them both.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. Godspeed to you and yours
@keithsargent6963
@keithsargent6963 Жыл бұрын
I could never choose one over the other, so I own both of them. And a 7mm rem mag , a 300 WM and a 35 Whelen.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics Жыл бұрын
I Completely understand
@phild9813
@phild9813 2 жыл бұрын
Love these tests. I’ve used 150 grain 30-06 GMX on elk and pronghorn, worked fabulously. Both shots well under 200 yards though, so good velocity and thus bullet expansion.
@phild9813
@phild9813 2 жыл бұрын
I’d be curious if the 150 was north of 3000fps and closer to the 270, velocity wise. I think there’s an ideal weight of monolithic for a given caliber and range it’s intended to be used at. You have to get those things screaming if you want reliable expansion past about 400 yards.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 2 жыл бұрын
I've noticed that hornady discontinued the 150gr superformance gmx in 30-06
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching and the comments!
@phild9813
@phild9813 2 жыл бұрын
Dang I didn’t know that! I’ve been running off my own supply. Probably didn’t sell enough!
@craigwheeler2057
@craigwheeler2057 2 жыл бұрын
Where I deer hunt in Texas we rarely shoot over 150 yards so either caliber works well. Like many, I prefer the .270 & feel like I shoot that rifle a little better. Great video- thanks
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching
@M--ri2ef
@M--ri2ef 2 жыл бұрын
Ether is great . The 270w is a great all around cartridge in its own respect. but there are alot more options for the 30-06 in bullet weight. In factory ammo (when available) lol . My grandfather hunted out west with a magnum but his 06 always went with him always could count on it to get the job done . And great video thanks.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching. Godspeed and happy hunting
@texasbeast239
@texasbeast239 3 жыл бұрын
Midway has .308 Superperformances up right now, so I came here for some feedback. But they use the ELD bullet and not the GMX. So I'm glad I avoided that mistake.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Superformance with eldx? Or we ELD-M?
@gabemcneil5221
@gabemcneil5221 3 жыл бұрын
I chose.270 back in the early 90s when I got my first rifle. I bought a browning bar last year and re visited the old deer camp debate on .270 vs 30-06.... I purchased another .270 because of softer recoil. I shoot American whitetail ammo in it, and it is destructive . I’m liking the gmx results though .... the proof is in the pork shoulders my 30-06 brothers !!! Cant deny terminal ballistics!!!!!
@inupik23
@inupik23 2 жыл бұрын
Had a load for a previous 30-06 with a 165 grain trophy bonded tip that clocked at 2960. Super accurate too. Used h4350, win brass, and win primers.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 2 жыл бұрын
Nice. We might try that
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 2 жыл бұрын
Email me the load please
@jimmiller7122
@jimmiller7122 2 жыл бұрын
I like them both thanks for the test
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 2 жыл бұрын
Me too
@jeffdrew625
@jeffdrew625 Ай бұрын
Good video! I’ve hunted with both calibers and no issues with effectiveness. I’ve reloaded both. My shoulder prefers the .270 and my freezer doesn’t comment. Thx for sharing!
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics Ай бұрын
Right on! Godspeed and Good hunting!
@lumberr-jackk
@lumberr-jackk Жыл бұрын
I own 3 of each love 30-06, 270 both my tikkas shoot 1/2 inch groups with the TTSX 165g 30 Cal and TTSX 140g 270. My Brownings are not as good but 1" groups are common. The Rugers are in the middle with just over 3/4 of a inch groups. Either will kill moose or deer or bears my wife likes the bit less kick of the 270 so guess she has 3 to pick from but the X bolt seems to be her favourite.
@paulhomsy2751
@paulhomsy2751 Жыл бұрын
As usual an excellent video, entertaining and illustrating what I suppose many have in mind. Both results were excellent, depending on where one hunts I'd chose the 30-06 for Alaska. I've shot the Hornady Superformance 300 Win.Mag 165 grains GMX advertised at 3260 fps. My results were 3259, 3261, 3262. and a very tight 1/4 inch clover leaf. Too bad Hornady discontinued this excellent bullet.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics Жыл бұрын
Their new CX to replace the GMX bullet is an excellent bullet as well. I think you'll enjoy it too
@paulhomsy2751
@paulhomsy2751 Жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics I've not been able to put my hands on them so in the meantime I stocked up on several Barnes 30 and 338 Calibers but I'll try the CX as soon as I can find it. Your test removed all doubts as far as the terminal performance of the Hornadys is concerned. I've also bought a couple of boxes of Nosler E-Tip but haven't shot those yet. I'll keep you posted.
@danielsmith5023
@danielsmith5023 Жыл бұрын
I love my Tikka 30 06 , I'm a professional shooter culling Razorbacks Ferrel dogs and Roos in Australia , and around a third of my income comes from shooting . Since that dust up the Black's caused in the United States it's bloody hard as hell to get some ammo in the land of OZ . I have a bit of a stockpile of 30 06 and shotgun shells but it's not gonna last long , I hope you bloke's have stopped panic buying and things get back to normal soon otherwise I'm going to have to go back to breaking horses again , and at 56 years old I'm not keen on that . Cheers from Australia Regards Dan 👍
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics Жыл бұрын
If we get a republican majority in November, the panic buying will slow. Wish I could send you ammo. Lol Godspeed, Chuck
@samueljones2495
@samueljones2495 18 күн бұрын
Awesome review!
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 18 күн бұрын
Thank You Sir!
@left-handedtexan2658
@left-handedtexan2658 3 жыл бұрын
I like the 30-06 more for the wider range of bullet weights. I believe the .270 is a more specialized around and a great one as well. I like 30-06 for its versatility and that’s why I have one.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more
@evanrumbold5452
@evanrumbold5452 2 жыл бұрын
I like both calibers but my go to is the 30-06 love the 180 grain rounds. Nasty on game
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Which bullet do you use?
@evanrumbold5452
@evanrumbold5452 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics 180 grain nosler ballistic tips
@evanrumbold5452
@evanrumbold5452 2 жыл бұрын
In my opinion they work great. Thanks for the great videos!! Keep em up 🙂
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sure they do on whitetail and such sized animals but for larger I'd want something bonded. But if you can shoot them well out of your rifle, that's the main thing
@evanrumbold5452
@evanrumbold5452 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics yes sir thanks
@jjgriffin3275
@jjgriffin3275 3 жыл бұрын
after watching all the new videos of the new 6.8 Western, the 270 win is still KING! beats the 3006 and 308 overall. ill keep on w my 270 win. great VID, keep up the great work guys. i have started reloading for the 270 using Hornady SST boolits. i just cant get into the all solids boolits from the lead core ones, seems to me the lead core ones mushroom a little better. all in all good job.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Those SSTs verbally rip completely apart
@greg6264
@greg6264 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't realize a 270 was so close to the 30-06. I have a 270 and a 300 win mag. I always thought the 270 was less than it is. Good to know the facts. Thanks! I still like the pairing: 270 and 300 WM.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 2 жыл бұрын
Those two rifles should take care of anything in the world you'd want to hunt with maybe the exception of cape buffalo, rhino and elephant. I need a .300 win mag for the channel.
@davidrdanner4232
@davidrdanner4232 3 жыл бұрын
The 30.06 is the one that I would choose out of these two cal... My Fav is my 7mm Rem mag. Great video Chuck 📹 👍
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Me too
@lancemiller9110
@lancemiller9110 Жыл бұрын
No response from Josh lower? I thought he’d fuel his own fire with opinions and general propaganda on this comment about the 7mm mag.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics Жыл бұрын
Lol the 7mm Rem Mag is better than the .30-06
@juanmarrieta5699
@juanmarrieta5699 2 жыл бұрын
Great rounds both. I prefer the .270, less recoil, flatter trajectory and usually more tissue damage.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 2 жыл бұрын
Fair enough. Thanks for watching and the comment. Godspeed brother
@Eiflerisch
@Eiflerisch 2 жыл бұрын
That was the Video i was looking for, great! Love the .270, greetings from Germany! "Waidmannsheil" (Ancient salut of the German Hunters)
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 2 жыл бұрын
Good luck and Godspeed to you as well sir.
@markhansen8078
@markhansen8078 3 жыл бұрын
Very good comparison. I have both of these rifles. I like both of them. I would be hard pressed to choose between them. I must admit my go-to rifle is my .270 Weatherby Vanguard w/ Leupold rifleman scope 3-9x40mm. It is amazingly accurate and tough as nails. This is my personal favorite go-to rifle. I use Rem corelokt 130 grain ammo. I deliberately chose this ammo because it is a great bullet, shoots incredible in the weatherby and is (was lol) readily available in almost any store in USA.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Go check out my video with the standard deviation on the Remington corelokt... you might change your mind. And it ain't available here anymore
@markhansen8078
@markhansen8078 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics I know, rem is falling apart as a company. Bummer. I might try Hornady interlock and see how it performs. I really don't want to reload for another caliber. lol
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
I understand that
@johnnorman7708
@johnnorman7708 2 жыл бұрын
This ammo intrigues me probably more than it should. On one hand I see so little use for it, given the amount of power both of these cartridges carry in their normal loads. On the other hand, it boosts power enough to forego buying a magnum rifle for those rare opportunities to hunt game larger and denser than deer. Most of us just don't hunt game bigger than deer. And a lot of us that do get to make that "big trip" don't do it more than a very few times. On those rare trips we probably would be better off with our familiar favorite deer rifle shooting this ammo than going to a new magnum rifle that we have far less trigger time and field experience with. Maybe this ammo is not yet totally understood for purpose beyond just more power.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 2 жыл бұрын
Just to note this ammo may not expand well below 2000 fps, or so I've been told. The barnes ttsx is better for that and their LRX is superb down to 1500 fps. But i do agree with your sentiment. I think having the right ammo in a rifle you're familiar with is better than having a 300 win mag you can only afford a few shots
@fx4fxnytro
@fx4fxnytro 2 жыл бұрын
30.06 for me. More versatility in rounds. I can find 30.06 everywhere. I barely notice the recoil with my browning xbolt. I have taken moose and whitetails with my 30.06.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 2 жыл бұрын
Great choice. Godspeed and good hunting my friend
@larrybassett5559
@larrybassett5559 Жыл бұрын
Love my .270 and my aught six I'll keep them both! Good video guys. 👍
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics Жыл бұрын
Not a bad choice. Godspeed and good hunting
@vikingnorm6935
@vikingnorm6935 2 жыл бұрын
I really like .270 & 30-06, but if could only have 1, it would no doubt be the 30-06, great video
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Thank you
@bernabesanchez387
@bernabesanchez387 3 жыл бұрын
Great video sir 👍 I’ve been using the 150 grain on my 30/06 and don’t get as much recoil
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Good to know... gmx?
@AndyAlaska375
@AndyAlaska375 3 жыл бұрын
Mono metal bullets are hard to beat when it comes to penetration and weight retention. Though I haven't used the gmx I 've loaded and hunted with barnes tsx and ttsx in several calibers.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
I generally hunt with the lrx in all my calibers
@dt3852
@dt3852 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir!
@brianrobinson1975
@brianrobinson1975 2 жыл бұрын
very good experiment
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@terrell48
@terrell48 2 жыл бұрын
Both are long time proven rounds but to me the the 30-06 has more versatility as there is a larger variety of bullet choices
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@jacstocker5100
@jacstocker5100 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't shoot anything bigger than an elk with my 270 and not more than 300 yards too
@adublbeatz8656
@adublbeatz8656 Жыл бұрын
I agree. I love my 270, but ammo choices are limited. My 30-06 is my woody area gun. I don't carry them as much after two shoulder surgeries. The recoil wasn't as hard on me before the surgeries. But yeah....
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics Жыл бұрын
@AdublBeatz Load up some 130gr barnes ttsx to a grain below maximum with a slow burning powder in that .30-06. Stop kill anything on the planet, get you about the same speed as a .270 130gr and kick way less
@jacstocker5100
@jacstocker5100 Жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics 130 grain 30 caliber ?? I thought 150 grains was way light for 30 anything ??
@johnnorman7708
@johnnorman7708 2 жыл бұрын
I've never really needed a magnum rifle. Now a magnum rifle is made even less relevant for most of us. Being able to up gun by buying a box of ammo is pretty impressive and convenient should you feel the need to squeeze a bit more out of your old deer rifle.
@jamespugh
@jamespugh 3 жыл бұрын
Great video as always 👍 sorry I missed it when first dropped. Was watching the man Johnny reloading bench live stream he broke 100,000 subs yesterday night. He went live at 6am to 7:50am I missed. But I cought his part two from 8am till 2pm was 5hr live about other than part I step out of.. He had planned to do a 27hr live today from youtu.be and twitch. 270 vs 30-06. I will take the old man 30-06 . More bullet weights and options from vermint to big bear. Even take moose with 220gr solids
@rogerramjet7567
@rogerramjet7567 3 ай бұрын
Again, I would remind everyone, that Jack O Connor, Mr 270, said that the 3006 was superior to the 270. That was a quote. Long time ago, still true today. 😀
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 ай бұрын
Truth bomb
@christopherhoffman9489
@christopherhoffman9489 Жыл бұрын
In my opinion he 270 is a great round , but the 30-06 is still the choice for the best knock down . As the old saying goes there is no replacement for Displacement!
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics Жыл бұрын
Truth
@tommysmyth254
@tommysmyth254 5 ай бұрын
I like the 30-06 Springfield the best
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 5 ай бұрын
Me too
@jeejay98
@jeejay98 Жыл бұрын
Great comparison. It helped me decide which caliber to purchase next. I bought both. 😂 Both great caliber.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics Жыл бұрын
Lol there you go!
@lancemiller9110
@lancemiller9110 Жыл бұрын
Hahahaha!!!! I’ve always said rifles are like a set set of sockets.
@russellkeeling4387
@russellkeeling4387 11 ай бұрын
I am an 06 man but hold the 270 in high regard. I've made some great shots on elk with my 06 and my son has made some unbelievable shots on coyotes with his 270. Not long ago I came across an M77/270 but because I don't have any reloading gear for a 270 and it is near impossible to buy dyes and other equipment for 270 I had the rifle re barreled to a .275 Rigby which I am equipped for. I prefer the 7x57 or .275 Rigby over both the 270 and the 308. I'm not saying it is a better caliber I'm saying I prefer it for my situation.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and the comment. Godspeed and good hunting.
@AMF96
@AMF96 2 жыл бұрын
Neither round has any major advantage/disadvantage over the other.. however 270 tends to be a little better when it comes to penetration and 30-06 a bit better when dumping energy and needing a heavier bullet..
@PatRMG
@PatRMG 3 жыл бұрын
Beats Chuke to the punch for first comment, just because I can. 😁
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Lol 😆 he's young to be mad
@PatRMG
@PatRMG 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlaskanBallistics I wonder if he noticed.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@brianbumgardner8704
@brianbumgardner8704 2 жыл бұрын
I'll stick with my .270, it has treated me well. I've taken white tail deer, pronghorn and cyote. Shoots very well out to 300 yards. 1973 vintage Remington 700 Bushnell scope, only upgraded was a trigger.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with that.
@scottydavis1813
@scottydavis1813 2 жыл бұрын
The GMX is my favorite bullet for my 300 RUM. It gives you the greatest chance for penetration and not coming apart at higher velocity.
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 2 жыл бұрын
It does do this
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