285 Tons Going Up...285 Tons Going Down 8-16-11

[@CassieLopez]

WARNING! This is NOT a video for thrill-seekers and crash-compilation watchers. This is a video for knowledgeable people who can understand and appreciate what they're seeing. If you want crashes, go somewhere else.

[@BrianW._1313]

Damn Right ! WELL SAID !!!

[@zachgilbert3815]

Oh, sorry, the part of the title "285 tons *going down*" is a bit misleading.

[@Dieseldickrick]

Man I love seeing a truck have that torque twist in the frame. Seeing the cab rise to the right from all he engine torque, i love it. Who agrees? Watching a truck sit at a light then as soon as that light turns green, you see the truck twist from the power!

[@242176]

Commercial drivers can appreciate this video.. didn't seem like 13 minutes! Thanks for posting it

[@RendColt]

Don't know anything about trucking, but this looks like a complex but smooth process. So smooth it looks easy

[@espeescotty]

Thank you. It's nice to know that it's appreciated and that my time isn't wasted.

[@MrPhil0267]

This video reminds me of the skill of most truck drivers. Sure there are some bad drivers out there but I feel most truckers are honest hard working guys (and ladies too).

[@sharonpeek4578]

Hats off to all these heavy haulers. I drove 18 wheelers, but I could never do what these guys do. Awesome!

[@espeescotty]

Thanks. I liked that part of the video too. I'm endlessly fascinated by watching heat waves emitted by things like trucks, trains, and planes.

[@Corolla97ww]

In 2007 I did some driving in California, Nevada, Utah and Arizona visiting some of the wonderful National Parks that you have there. I was really impressed with the quality of the roads there. For instance there were "turn ins" if I remember the term correctly on long climbs to enable slower moving traffic to be overtaken and also truck runoffs on steep descents to enable trucks to stop safely if the brakes failed.

[@mindlessgonzo]

285 Tons... And what do you get? Another day older and deeper in debt.

[@slimchancetoo]

+mindlessgonzo Love it ------- just love it. You de man !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@tristanable5510]

up

[@northwoodspatriot32]

I bet that cop chasing the truck driver is getting really pissed that he won't pull over.

[@Evanharper2215]

Its a escort

[@espeescotty]

Yes, he's the tillerman, I caught him at work in a couple of my other videos of this move. But the question in the comment above asks whether the driver in the rear truck has to steer or not. The tillerman is steering the rear of the trailer around the sharper curves. On the gentler curves and the straight sections the tillerman is not in position on the trailer.

[@espeescotty]

I can't explain the music relationship either. Honestly, over a year later and I still don't know what the anode is used for. I guess if sought out that information I could find it, but I guess I'm just too lazy to do it. I was just glad that I could witness the move and catch it on video. And post it on KZbin! :)

[@denisranque1536]

Amazing trailer system!!!

[@MrPhil0267]

I admire anyone ( man or woman ) who can drive this kind of truck/load and cause a lot of damage in the process.

[@DM-ry3ms]

Thanks for posting this and all the description. Interesting haul and rig.

[@alexT80418]

With a title like this i was expecting a very VERY LARGE explosion....

[@ericm1430]

Man I reallly love those kenworths. Beautiful truck especially the triaxle!

[@OMBIC]

The toque on that truck, almost ripping the frame apart lol :))

[@espeescotty]

Yes. To coast would be placing all of the braking on the wheel brakes and that would burn them up in just a few miles. The majority of the braking you're seeing in these videos is compression braking from the trucks engines. These are very strong and means that the wheel brakes don't have to be used very much and can stay in a safe temperature range and the airbrake system can stay charged and ready for use. Over application of airbrakes depletes air faster than it can be recharged.

[@nutbagbrew102]

we in the industry call it "torsional twist" , when we align the front axle of one of these big units we add Camber on the left side of the axle to compensate for the truck frame under load conditions - i like your post too -

[@espeescotty]

So as you look head-on at the truck, the engine is spinning clockwise. With the thousands of pounds of spin, or torque as it is properly termed, the counter clockwise force the engine is imparting to the frame and suspension of the truck tries to lift the drivers side off the ground. I hope that makes sense.

[@sebofo]

BTW, good camera work, and thanks for having real sounds, also well recorded.

[@redradiodog]

That's a good stress test for that bridge.

[@espeescotty]

Thanks, I'm glad you liked it. Thanks for watching.

[@Eztruckstore]

Incredible! Looked like that Cop had to block the guy in the #1 lane at 2:30.

[@Corolla97ww]

Great to see those mighty trucks in action. Good roads in the USA even in hilly country.

[@Omegatonboom]

I appreciate your detailed explanations! You help make KZbin awesome! Thank you.

[@mccarterjg]

nice camera and fairly good camera work nice video and thanks for not overlaying any music over it

[@espeescotty]

I totally agree with you! I love watching the trucks pulling away from stop lights and seeing the cabs getting torqued over or when they're running bobtail and you see the frame rise up 4 or 5 inches for each gear. If you want to see one of the most dramatic big rig torque shows, check out Couture VS Coga here on KZbin. Look for the 31 second posting. Amazing stuff!

[@espeescotty]

Thank you. The trucks are Kenworth T800W's

[@roni1976]

Thats some amazing equipment.... I seen a load that was so heavy that they had 2 tractor trucks pulling it and 2 pushing it... something Duke Energy had ordered that was being delivered to the nuclear station in NC

[@espeescotty]

Thank you! I wish I had an HD camera and a smoother tripod. Those would've made these videos so much better.

[@theaveragerailfanner7447]

Well, you know what they say: What goes up, must come down!

[@theaveragerailfanner7447]

***** Yeah!

[@TraderJohn67]

Nice! I love machinery. I also noticed that _nobody_ was in front of the load during the downhill part.

[@MisterFlaherty]

Truck has a C15 Caterpillar I-6 cylinder diesel engine making 600 horsepower / 2800lb/ft torque @ 1400 RPM's. It can fairly easily pull this load because of the gearing of the 18 speed transmission. 1st gear will pull the unit about 1.5 MPH at full RPM's.

[@idontlike101]

Wow this is very interesting, I always wondered thanks man keep up the good vids!

[@Baraquiel62]

such a great video! greets from Mexico City!, and thanks for sharing..

[@espeescotty]

The whole trip from Salt Lake City to Miami, in central Arizona, took right around a week and a half to 2 weeks. That included weekends off for the people involved in the move.

[@96XJeep]

that looks like a few miles out side of tonto basin! ive driven that road thousands of times!...neat

[@espeescotty]

The whole trip from Salt Lake City to it's final destination took around 2 weeks. Speed depended on many conditions. Hills, bridges, and places with lots of curves or traffic were taken slowly, while straight flat sections could be done at speeds up to 40+ miles per hour.

[@johnmoore8016]

wonder if his breaks was hot when he got to the bottom? Thanks for a very good video.

[@espeescotty]

+John Moore Believe it or not, I'm not sure the air brakes were used very much at all on the descent. The trucks were in a low gear and using their engines compression (Jake Brakes) brakes. You can see that the brake lights on the rear truck and the trailer never came on, whereas all of the following vehicles are riding their brakes down the hill.

[@DMAXRYNO]

What was the concrete truck for? We're they doing on the spot repairs?

[@aitaix]

They weren't using it, It was normal highway traffic.

[@espeescotty]

A good way to visualize it is to imagine you're sitting at a desk in a chair that can swivel. To make the chair turn clockwise or to your right while you're sitting in it, you'd put your hand on the desk and push it to the left or counter clockwise. The same happens with these trucks. The engine spins only one way, and since they are literally spinning with thousands of pounds of force, there are thousands of pounds trying to spin the truck the opposite direction that the engine is spinning.

[@JP-st2mk]

Impressive! Those drivers earn their money.

[@espeescotty]

It's probably more the axle count than suspension capacity. I can't speak for these trucks, but what I've found on the internet seems that heavy haul Kenworth T800W's like these run 46,000 lb. capacity rear axles and 20,000 lb. fronts, which isn't too much more than a standard over the road truck.

[@espeescotty]

Oh yeah, I read the comments where people rip each other apart for the stupidest things. I try to keep things classy and civil. Even if you disagree, you can still explain something without being a turd. As for learning, I may know a lot of things, but I especially know that I don't know everything. There's nothing wrong with learning new things, some say... it keeps you alive.

[@espeescotty]

Yeah, that's how it is in the railroading world too. It's the going down part when the seats start to get "pinched"!

[@TheBadTad]

Very professional. Well done.

[@espeescotty]

Yes that's right, and you'll also notice that the load crossed all bridges solo as well!

Excellent vid. May I ask what two trucks those are?

[@drumbasher]

I bet that bridge was feeling the strain of all that weight!

[@espeescotty]

My guess would be maybe 10 mph. If conditions were just right it could scoot at maybe 40 to 50 mph. In one of my other videos of this move, you can see it clipping along at what I'd guess to be 40+, but conditions were seldom favorable for those speeds. Traffic, both opposing and trailing, bridges, grades, curves, road conditions, signal lights, etc. all contribute to keeping loads like these to slow cautious speeds.

[@cobranut1658]

It was probably just an effect imparted by the camera angle, but it sure looked like the last bridges middle expansion joint opened up a few inches as the load crossed. :-O

[@slimchancetoo]

Should have used at least TWO pusher trucks. Failure of one could have been disastrous - particularly on the down run.

[@d.j.weddle1617]

I thought everyone kept a nice proper and "not freaking out" about it! When someone has a title of "Going Down" one would assume of a wreck and not a good ride down a hill side!

[@jeremyclark3049]

RESPECT for those drivers..

[@jeffvanark]

I've seen loads like this coming up the 2 lane highway 63 toward Fort McMurray AB, Canada. Impressive and scary at the same time.

[@espeescotty]

If you haven't seen it yet, check out my video of this very same load crossing the Roosevelt Lake Bridge. You can see it flatten out the arch as it goes over!

[@espeescotty]

Ha Ha... The funny thing about those "Turn Ins" and the "Run-Away Truck Ramps" is that those who should pull over and let others pass a lot of times don't, and it always seems like the run-away ramps are always one or two sharp turns too far away! Meaning the trucks usually wipe out on the turn before the ramps. But, in comparison to roads like you have there in Ireland (though I've only seen them on TV), I guess we are very lucky to have what we have. My Dodge is TOO wide for your roads! :)

[@shalala4893]

What is the stuff they're hauling used in? And how is this being filmed? Oh and how many hours did the whole trip take?!? :O

[@espeescotty]

The object I think is used to separate copper concentrate from a dissolving solution. I shot this while standing in the bed of my truck that I parked next to the road. I was able to get ahead of the load several times to find new locations to shoot it. The whole move took almost 2 full weeks, with most of the driving done during daylight hours, and weekends off. They did cross over the Hoover Dam bypass bridge at night though.

[@Ilovecomedy7]

Do this on I-5 during Thanksgiving break :D

Thank you so much :)

[@sped8084]

Nice that takes skill and balls... I drive truck but you wouldn't catch me do that anytime soon

[@Eddie_Schantz]

What is this "anode" used for anyway?

[@seban678]

To refine the mined copper to a high (99.99%) purity level by electrolysis. As a by-product of that you get some gold and other noble metals, which are technically impurities but sell quite well ;) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copper_extraction_techniques#Electrorefining

[@nixiebunny1]

I got to watch these folks haul several parts of the Large Binocular Telescope up Mt. Graham, which makes this job look like a Sunday picnic.

[@Metalheaddox]

One question did someone strengthen all of the bridges along the route, since the max load of a bridge is 40 tones (80,000 pounds) ?

[@DOCRX09]

actually I've never hauled an extremely heavy or oversized load but I would say you have to be "3 up" on ur driving skills!! Godspeed

[@verovieira1]

Nice work group !

[@espeescotty]

An anode or more technically an anode barrel. It's a piece for something in a copper mine. I don't know how it's used though.

[@redyoshi1985]

Yeah I think it did also, Do you remember what the weight limit was on that bridge?

[@mphill1491]

You sure can hear the fan clutch kicking on.

[@espeescotty]

Thank you. I do appreciate the compliment. I try to be as smooth as possible, but my tripod and camera are not well suited to smooth fluid movements when I need them to be the most. As for music, I feel too many good KZbin videos are ruined by the use or mis-use of music. There is nothing wrong with hearing the birds and the sounds of these awesome machines doing their work.

[@diamondjaguar]

I'm a heavy haul driver for a demolition company. We have large equipment, but I would love to drive this. I'd like to know the engine/trans combo.

[@TheTaytoni]

so what gear would he use to go up the hill and then down?

[@Terpaxsten]

I'm shocked with the power and development of the train, airbus, and shipping industries, we still rely on trucks to do some of the heavy moving. Very impressive.

[@John_R_Jackson_III]

To wide to go on a train I’m surprised people can’t comprehend this

[@John_R_Jackson_III]

Also trains go into many tunnels that this wouldn’t even fit inside lmao

[@espeescotty]

Well actually, I believe the trailer is taking care of the steering on the push truck. Just like when an RV tows a car, the front wheels act like casters and just follow along where they are towed. The push-truck driver just works the power and brakes. Watch Precision Heavy Haul "Riding With The Giants" Part 2, and you'll see short clips from inside the push-truck on this very same stretch of road, and you'll see he is just kind od hands-off on the steering wheel.

[@fanfestdhl]

How fast was the trucks traveling and how long did the trip take?

[@don11181968]

How much money do these Over Size load drivers make?It must be some big bucks!

[@ford1016]

depends what their hauling how long and who they work for

[@idontlike101]

I see so about how long does it take to get there?

[@nutbagbrew102]

thanks for your kind reply some folks get really pissed if you try to add a little more insight , i surly know very little but i like to pass on what i know , sometimes making comments makes some people angry - i am not like that so thanks again and once again i liked your post, my dad said if you learn something every day then your still alive ! lol

[@espeescotty]

Ahh, that's neat to know. I didn't know about that, but then as you can tell, I'm not in the industry. Thanks for the extra info and comment.

[@1crazynordlander]

What do you mean "The bridges are in bad shape in this country" Would have been fun to have a dial indicator on that last bridge beam to see how much it flexed.

[@brutalic001]

Kenworth heavy spec BEAST rig don't see those every day

[@Nitro_218]

damn look at that torque twist that frame!

[@fullautoshotty]

i don't think i'd have the nerve or the patience to be the guy behind the wheel

[@espeescotty]

@nixiebunny1 Oh, I know. I've seen pitures of those moves on their website.

[@85daveo]

This is a anode barrel not a anode. The anode is the finished product that comes out of this anode barrel.

[@tvnshack]

Very interesting. Thanks.

[@espeescotty]

I can't say for sure, but it sure like it did to me too! I never noticed that before. Hmmm? Damn I wish I had an HD camera when I shot these vids!

[@annetterushing7323]

What goes up must come down!

[@TheRichardgomm]

The planning that must go into this, would give me a headache!

[@drumbasher]

Ty, I'll have to see that!

[@espeescotty]

Thank you for watching. I'm glad you liked it.

[@JayMy07]

Nice set of kenworths must be nice set of cats under the hood . great video

[@espeescotty]

Thank you, and thanks for watching.

[@XFoolXProofX]

Holy shit that is one bad ass trailer....You dont get to say that to often. And I assume that all the wheels on that trailer has brakes? For the loads it would be hauling I would hope so.

[@millijhnsn8525]

THAT Lil hollowed out thing weighs 285 tons, or is the weight of the carrier included?

[@espeescotty]

I'm pretty sure it was the entire setup.

[@idontlike101]

Whats the average speed it travels at?

[@armcreuz]

nice video man really nice

[@espeescotty]

Thank you, I'm glad you liked it. Thanks for watching.

[@espeescotty]

Thanks, you too.