2nd Best Army in Ukraine? | Evolution of Tank Tactics in Ukraine

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The Tank Museum

The Tank Museum

Күн бұрын

Join us as Chris Copson provides a comprehensive analysis of the military tactics used in the conflict between Ukraine and Russia, and how those tactics have evolved over the course of the past year.
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00:00 | Intro
01:24 | Ukraine
06:03 | T-72
09:34 | BMP-1
14:07 | Tactics
20:49 | Summary
#tankmuseum #evolution #ChrisCopson #ukraine

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@thetankmuseum
@thetankmuseum 11 ай бұрын
Let us know what you thought of this video in the comments below.
@user-hq2fy5cs1k
@user-hq2fy5cs1k 11 ай бұрын
its good
@Silverj2k7
@Silverj2k7 11 ай бұрын
its great.
@phunkracy
@phunkracy 11 ай бұрын
Airborne assault on hostomel actually succeeded thats my pet peeve with 1st minute of the video. When Russian main force arrived the VDV was still there still holding tge airport
@zaynevanday142
@zaynevanday142 11 ай бұрын
Pure NATO propaganda 😂😂😂
@zaynevanday142
@zaynevanday142 11 ай бұрын
@@phunkracy100% total success the VDV took and held that airport
@user-hq2fy5cs1k
@user-hq2fy5cs1k 11 ай бұрын
i love tanks
@tsardean7438
@tsardean7438 11 ай бұрын
Me too :D
@stefanobonaiuti8243
@stefanobonaiuti8243 11 ай бұрын
same
@Tank_lover
@Tank_lover 11 ай бұрын
Same
@bookofdaveandsteve
@bookofdaveandsteve 11 ай бұрын
tanks loves you too bro
@hyperowsky997
@hyperowsky997 11 ай бұрын
Yes
@1509Freeze
@1509Freeze 11 ай бұрын
I cant get over how the term "cope cage" has basically become the official designation for these constructs.
@ProvidenceNL
@ProvidenceNL 11 ай бұрын
You could see his hesitation and the use of the qualifer ''colloquially'' because of that haha.
@MrZombiekiller23
@MrZombiekiller23 11 ай бұрын
its not, its just internet addicts
@iannordin5250
@iannordin5250 11 ай бұрын
I mean there really isn't another good name out there for them.
@brandonbailey9446
@brandonbailey9446 11 ай бұрын
It is hilarious watching these knowledgeable, dignified gentleman like him and the Chieftain discuss it.
@Shooter10m
@Shooter10m 11 ай бұрын
Theyre trying to cope with the fact that the top down munitions are making their armor void and trying to deal with it. Unfortunately, most top down munitions are tandem and can still get through that space. Kinda funny that reddit has managed to name that though.
@gilanbarona9814
@gilanbarona9814 11 ай бұрын
When I was a junior officer, we never had military instructors this good. This was very insightful. I learned a lot. Thank you.
@kaalisurfer600
@kaalisurfer600 9 ай бұрын
are you joking
@gilanbarona9814
@gilanbarona9814 9 ай бұрын
@@kaalisurfer600 No
@Alexandr_Polyakov
@Alexandr_Polyakov 11 ай бұрын
Hello, I'm from Irpin, Ukraine. thanks for the great analytics👍
@brinjoness3386
@brinjoness3386 11 ай бұрын
Say hi to your friends and family.
@garryeis7276
@garryeis7276 10 ай бұрын
@@user-bg1xx6ik7q Iripin is a city near Kyiv. The Russians were expelled from there in April 2022.
@charlescaudell9493
@charlescaudell9493 11 ай бұрын
No surprise that Chris Copson's videos do so well. He can clearly and concisely explain a complex subject to a non specialist audience. Many thanks.
@maccarr9923
@maccarr9923 11 ай бұрын
I think you mean many Tanks
@AsmodeusT
@AsmodeusT 11 ай бұрын
​@@maccarr9923 bravo!
@daveyjones5702
@daveyjones5702 11 ай бұрын
and how do you verify any statements made? when almost everything we are told about what happens there is propaganda, and about as valid as a 3 dollar bill, how do you know any of this has any connection to reality whatsoever?
@castintime6245
@castintime6245 11 ай бұрын
Absolutely! Couldn't agree more!
@petunized
@petunized 11 ай бұрын
He is just telling what his audience like to hear. Just like any other entertainer. If he told you inconvenient truth, you'd unsubscribe, downvote and complain to youtube. And his channel will be cancelled out, just like any other inconvenient opinions in the west.
@melle9155
@melle9155 11 ай бұрын
Chris is a good story teller and really good at explaining things. Very pleasant to listen to!
@jansilver4253
@jansilver4253 11 ай бұрын
That's true I just wanted to take a look but I can't stop it until it stops!))))
@trollking202
@trollking202 11 ай бұрын
Once upon a time 😅
@VunderGuy
@VunderGuy 11 ай бұрын
Yes. Very good propagandist very good at steering clear of certain undeniably authentic docs that show the ultimate opposite of his ultimate purpose.
@buckmaster5552
@buckmaster5552 11 ай бұрын
He's good to listen to. Its just too bad his numbers are fictional
@kevinallies1014
@kevinallies1014 11 ай бұрын
He is a good “story teller” alright. Except his stories aren’t true. The Russians are killing Ukrainians at a rate of 10-1 and the Ukrainians have taken somewhere in the realm of 2 million total casualties. The American Joint Chiefs of Staff document says that 176,000 Ukrainians have been killed and they are taking 10-1 the deaths of the Russians and that they have 6 non fatal casualties for every dead.
@CrazyFikus
@CrazyFikus 11 ай бұрын
9:10 - "we've recently seen some T-72s in Ukraine fitted with what's colloquially been called cope cages" I just love how cope cage has become accepted terminology.
@alexanderbarkman7832
@alexanderbarkman7832 11 ай бұрын
It's not, it's just kids with no military knowledge using it.
@Squee.1366
@Squee.1366 11 ай бұрын
@@alexanderbarkman7832 So be a profie, name it correctly
@alexanderbarkman7832
@alexanderbarkman7832 11 ай бұрын
@@Squee.1366 Slat roof armour.
@Squee.1366
@Squee.1366 11 ай бұрын
Slat armor, dry water, sour sugar... Cool!
@alexanderbarkman7832
@alexanderbarkman7832 11 ай бұрын
@@Squee.1366 Se my first comment.
@sixstringedthing
@sixstringedthing 11 ай бұрын
I'm sure I've said it before but I'm going to say it again; I very much enjoy Mr Copson's presentations. Clear and concise, technical yet easily approachable, delivered in a confident and natural manner that indicates a high level of familiarity with the subject matter. Excellent stuff.
@DerUnglaublicheFrank
@DerUnglaublicheFrank 11 ай бұрын
This is the first video I see from this channel and I have to say I am impressed. This is the gold standard I want from documentaries and similar shows. The production quality is great across the board, the story is interesting and good to follow, the visuals are a great benefit and it has no bloat or nonsense.
@Masada1911
@Masada1911 11 ай бұрын
They have a pretty big catalogue of videos for you to enjoy!
@DarkShroom
@DarkShroom 11 ай бұрын
this is what you get when you have a presenter that both does the research and the talk... this is why i watch youtube and not tv
@michaela7759
@michaela7759 11 ай бұрын
100% AGREED
@DartXL
@DartXL 11 ай бұрын
A low-quality study based on NAFO misinformation. But he could have analyzed what is available to a tank museum. For example, conclude that Soviet 9M117 "Bastion" missiles fired from T-55, T-62 or BMP-3 can hit even the latest Western tanks, including M1A2 Abrams, from ranges twice as long as their range, which means they remain out of range. One such missile may not destroy an Abrams and will be neutralized by active or explosive armor, but a second, third... a tenth is unlikely. Therefore, thousands of such missiles and their newer modifications are eagerly waiting for the Abrams to practice shooting at it.
@dylanwegener9682
@dylanwegener9682 11 ай бұрын
​@@DartXL you are dented
@erloriel
@erloriel 11 ай бұрын
As usual, Mr. Copson knocks it out of the park with his narration! What brilliant choice as a presenter.
@simonpotter7534
@simonpotter7534 10 ай бұрын
Its good to see that a museum is making itself relevant to modern events. The staff must have been a little surprised to find some of its exhibits running around a current day battlefields.
@JayeOFarrell
@JayeOFarrell 11 ай бұрын
Absolutely phenomenal content, writing, production, and Chris has been an inspired edition to the presenting team. I've visited the Tank museum many times, and this year my friend from Canada is visiting and asked if I could take him to the museum as he enjoys the video content so much. Keep up the good work.
@Subcomandante73
@Subcomandante73 11 ай бұрын
Chris is doing a great job on these 'chats'.
@noahway13
@noahway13 11 ай бұрын
Who is Chris?
@joshmerchant8737
@joshmerchant8737 11 ай бұрын
@@noahway13 the guy in the video talking
@jonnyc429
@jonnyc429 11 ай бұрын
@@joshmerchant8737 😂😂
@chanchito4401
@chanchito4401 11 ай бұрын
@@noahway13 The cameraman
@axelvetter
@axelvetter 11 ай бұрын
Not all great presenters wear beards.
@lutherburgsvik6849
@lutherburgsvik6849 11 ай бұрын
Nice balance of focus on tactics and vehicles. I'm sure there would be equal interest in a similar video about the Ukrainian military and their changing tactics and vehicles over the past year. It could also provide an opportunity to link to some of your older videos on American, British and other NATO equipment currently being used by Ukraine.
@HealthyCigarette864
@HealthyCigarette864 Ай бұрын
nice try putin
@alexanderweinrich7418
@alexanderweinrich7418 11 ай бұрын
I absolutely love the mention of cope cages. Great video!
@__beer__
@__beer__ 11 ай бұрын
Yeah I had to have a laugh at that haha
@carlgrubisich5717
@carlgrubisich5717 11 ай бұрын
Great presentation, really hit the mark. Chris is an excellent addition to the tank museum. I hope to see more content of this sort in the future.
@MultiNike79
@MultiNike79 11 ай бұрын
Are all the comments here bots?
@dougcoombes8497
@dougcoombes8497 11 ай бұрын
That was excellent, I hope there are more updates like this as the war progresses.
@occamraiser
@occamraiser 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for another riveting video. I'm happy to say I'll be driving 330 miles down to Bovington in September specifically to visit the tank museum.
@PurpleSnakeXIII
@PurpleSnakeXIII 11 ай бұрын
An actually competent and informative flow of information with no to minimal political baggage and no taking sides! Incredibly high standard these days! Awesome
@kristoffer3000
@kristoffer3000 10 ай бұрын
You just didn't notice it was very biased.
@kristoffer3000
@kristoffer3000 10 ай бұрын
@@user-bg1xx6ik7q Sure bud, you believing those numbers without a second thought just proves you're honestly not very intelligent. :) "Not biased" whilst all this does is paint Ukraine, who are losing quite badly in a positive light whilst doing quite the opposite for Russia. Not to mention that Ukraine are quite uh.. fond of their Nazis, not something I want to support, idk about you. :)
@alanfenick1103
@alanfenick1103 10 ай бұрын
Your evaluation of the War in the Ukraine is insightful and gives more information of what each side is facing in equipment and tactics. I feel we need to concentrate on both the human and material costs! No one talks about the medical services to the wounded combatants and civilians. Every time a tank is destroyed three or more are killed is never spoken of just the fireworks display!
@steveyountz9184
@steveyountz9184 11 ай бұрын
Excellent as always, and the production value, which was very good, is getting even better.
@TheCrowsClaw
@TheCrowsClaw 11 ай бұрын
That is solid research and delivery, just like with the episode on an RPG.(speaking as military RPG instructor) You, Sir, are becoming my favourite presenter on the Tank Museum YT channel.
@JeanLucCaptain
@JeanLucCaptain 11 ай бұрын
The RPG video wasn’t pure anti Russian propaganda. This one is.
@Br1cht
@Br1cht 11 ай бұрын
@@JeanLucCaptain yup, they’ve no shame.
@sirhayden5516
@sirhayden5516 11 ай бұрын
@@JeanLucCaptain If this is propaganda, why are the russian forces doing so badly?
@Andrew-gd5jp
@Andrew-gd5jp 11 ай бұрын
@@sirhayden5516 propaganda isn’t necessarily false. To be effective, it should be true.
@jamesgornall5731
@jamesgornall5731 11 ай бұрын
​@@sirhayden5516even if tanks are, the armed forces are doing well, tanks are a busted flush with atgm weapons, just as western tanks will be. This isnt a case of one piece of technology here, one there and VICTORY, its a complete shift
@Huvpalto
@Huvpalto 11 ай бұрын
Hearing such a professional use the term "cope cage" made me laugh. Its both funny, charming and a kind of recognision.
@worldoftancraft
@worldoftancraft 7 ай бұрын
If those are Cope cages, then slat armour is cope armour
@seanitoism
@seanitoism 7 ай бұрын
The Tank Museum went from top five, to relevant documentaries. Impressive content from a museum and fascinating to watch if you like tanks.
@vespasian606
@vespasian606 11 ай бұрын
Great balanced summary. I think your questions at the end apply equally to both parties.
@lesliepaulkovacs6442
@lesliepaulkovacs6442 11 ай бұрын
Very nice evaluation of the last year. But I'd like to see the same thing done for the Ukrainian side, and we can then have a "Compare and Contrast" situation. Thanks again.
@gunnar6674
@gunnar6674 11 ай бұрын
The Ukrainian general staff wishes to keep their lessons learned in offensive operations close to the vest so far. They've shared some of the lessons learned in the defense with observers from RUSI, but they haven't wanted to share their experiences with offensive operations yet - at least in a non-classified setting.
@chrisdodson8118
@chrisdodson8118 11 ай бұрын
Forgive my simplistic answer, but I would say that the main difference is that Ukrainian tanks and troops are on the side of good, whereas those of RuSSia are inarguably on the side of evil! 🙂
@MultiNike79
@MultiNike79 11 ай бұрын
There is no "Ukrainian side". There is a US side. The Nazis are working for them.
@MultiNike79
@MultiNike79 10 ай бұрын
@@user-bg1xx6ik7q What country are you in, if it's not a secret?
@MultiNike79
@MultiNike79 10 ай бұрын
@@user-bg1xx6ik7q Russia?
@mody2220
@mody2220 11 ай бұрын
Just to clarify in 12.47min u need to take out that piece with 2 holes and put it around your ak47 or kmpk(polish/rusian heavy machine gun ) so your barrel is outside vehicle and that works quite well I know I was in polish army In 99-00 and we use those bmp these can do 70km-h on tank roads 😀
@edward9674
@edward9674 11 ай бұрын
What's it like to ride inside one? Like on an actual exercise if you ever got to be on one.
@mody2220
@mody2220 11 ай бұрын
@@edward9674 loud bouncy like hell hard to get in and out back door are heavy some times they fill them with sand for extra protection it was a fun to ride I'm my 20s but now no thanks
@Lexe-is5nv
@Lexe-is5nv 7 ай бұрын
Ok if you have a screw driver, and can get it none before your hit
@waynemayo1661
@waynemayo1661 11 ай бұрын
Another EXCELLENT video. The explanations of modern warfare--tactics, equipment, etc., were clear, and, as far as I can tell, factual. Keep up the good work!
@civicsilly
@civicsilly 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for your video, I appreciate your knowledge and considerable effort. Very well done, and I look forward to all of your products.
@filibertkraxner305
@filibertkraxner305 11 ай бұрын
Excellent video. Very nuanced analysis, illustrated on the museum's exhibits themselves. Well done.
@zerksari
@zerksari 11 ай бұрын
What a beautiful lecturer. Time to search him up and tuck in and listen in more.
@stevenbrown8857
@stevenbrown8857 11 ай бұрын
That was another superbly informative and well reasoned video from the Tank Museum. The quality of your videos is superb, as are your presenters.
@tommihommi1
@tommihommi1 11 ай бұрын
incredible production value on this video! I especially appreciate the good audio.
@mirandahotspring4019
@mirandahotspring4019 11 ай бұрын
Nice clear explanation of the war so far. Well thought out and spot on.
@kzsposeidon3121
@kzsposeidon3121 11 ай бұрын
​@Влад Осенін yeah sure
@andrewmorris1259
@andrewmorris1259 11 ай бұрын
Enjoyed this! Hope theTank Museum can produce more like this!
@luisorozco188
@luisorozco188 11 ай бұрын
Please keep these videos coming, as an old M60A1 MBT Crewman 3rd Armor Division Frieburg Germany just love these videos. 1977-79
@russwoodward8251
@russwoodward8251 11 ай бұрын
Thank you. I like Chris' analysis. Very good. Lots of great examples.
@ivanpticar8007
@ivanpticar8007 11 ай бұрын
Any official material on the whole "Soviets bellow the rank of Major weren't allowed maps"? These videos are very well done, and I'm always looking forward to more content
@SlashHarkenUltra
@SlashHarkenUltra 10 ай бұрын
I know you meant 'below' but I'm now thinking of Russian soldiers screaming "MAJOR!!!"
@kristoffer3000
@kristoffer3000 10 ай бұрын
Most negative things said about the Soviet Union on this channel is just lies, it's such a shame that they feel the need to shovel on tons of propaganda. Notice that they don't do it for Nazi tanks, strange that..
@stephenwood6663
@stephenwood6663 10 ай бұрын
Sounds to me like one of those myths that sometimes springs up to make one's rivals look bad. There's a famous photograph from 1942 of a Soviet lieutenant in a pilotka, urging his men forward with pistol raised; the man has a map case at his hip.
@jubuttib
@jubuttib 9 ай бұрын
@@stephenwood6663 He's just carrying it for the major. =)
@worldoftancraft
@worldoftancraft 7 ай бұрын
​@@jubuttiblêjtôha is carrying naps for mega mladšij lêjtênant
@johnelliott7850
@johnelliott7850 11 ай бұрын
Mr. Copson explains the pertinent issues so well and so clearly. Good video.
@VeeTaperTemplar
@VeeTaperTemplar 11 ай бұрын
This guy did a really really good job, please make this a series for this war
@scottroberts7875
@scottroberts7875 11 ай бұрын
Fact based, fascinating overview of the first year of this conflict. Mr Copson has a patient delivery and calm demeanour . Great combination, great talk. Well done all at the wonderful Tank Museum. ATVB2 all Scott Somerset
@themuckler8176
@themuckler8176 11 ай бұрын
Fact based on Ukrainian propaganda?😂
@scottroberts7875
@scottroberts7875 11 ай бұрын
@@themuckler8176 hilarious.. Because would never lie to its people
@testingmysoup5678
@testingmysoup5678 11 ай бұрын
Fact base even though the first fact he stated was wrong? First major armed conflict in Europe? 1999? Ukraine civil war?
@srvaughan2502
@srvaughan2502 11 ай бұрын
​@@testingmysoup5678 Maybe he considers that a minor conflict? Or he meant war between 2 countries? Cant serve off the full vid based on him meaning sth else than you.
@testingmysoup5678
@testingmysoup5678 11 ай бұрын
@@srvaughan2502 20 countries bombing another country to dust isn't a minor conflict, his willingness to say that just shows his willingness for other leaps of imagination
@robertstrong6798
@robertstrong6798 11 ай бұрын
I feel very guilty and sad to find this so interesting when so many are dying. But it is truly fascinating 🧐
@ChevySS1968
@ChevySS1968 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, especially when this all could have been avoided if someone would have listened to Putin's many warnings.
@nozhki-busha
@nozhki-busha 11 ай бұрын
@@ChevySS1968 Yeah, that worked out well for him didnt it? Now Putin is in a war he cannot hope to win and his land border with NATO has over doubled lol
@griechland
@griechland 11 ай бұрын
​@@ChevySS1968 Sod off vatnik.
@kilianortmann9979
@kilianortmann9979 11 ай бұрын
@@ChevySS1968 If only we had appeased Putler.
@nozhki-busha
@nozhki-busha 11 ай бұрын
@@ChevySS1968 Сколько рублей вам платят за то, что вы говорите эту чушь?
@johnbrooks1269
@johnbrooks1269 11 ай бұрын
Mr. Copson excellent presentation. Your cadence, voice quality is most pleasing and overall you made the video very enjoyable. Many thanks to the T.M. for this video. Cheers!
@knirobin
@knirobin 11 ай бұрын
Exceellent video , Chris is really getting into his stride ....great work and keep it up !
@andrew_radio
@andrew_radio 11 ай бұрын
That 22 minutes just flew by. Very fascinating video
@cyclopath457
@cyclopath457 11 ай бұрын
Yep I love listening to these. Informative and with a wealth of experience!
@brownie81
@brownie81 11 ай бұрын
Great video, love the official use of the term 'cope cage'
@hultaelit
@hultaelit 11 ай бұрын
Were the tactics used early on really the same as soviet WW2 tactics? Correct me if I'm wrong or feel free to elaborate, but In WW2, they'd have multiple waves, each with corresponding support elements in the air and on track, with the objective of pushing forward until they were at the edge of stalling, and then, very importantly, transition into creating and holding a beachhead for the next group that was just behind. Thus always preparing the way for the continued assault of fresh and supplied units. I might be wrong, but to me the tactics used in Feb 22 seemed to have degenerated rather than carried over from WW2, as when the front units were halted there was no second fresh wave just behind them to carry on the attack with fresh supplies
@phunkracy
@phunkracy 11 ай бұрын
Russians prepared for 2014 ukrainian army while ukrainians prepared for 2023 russian army. If ukrainians would fight anything like they did in 2014 the 3 day campaign meme would actually happen
@z_actual
@z_actual 11 ай бұрын
Russia ddint put nearly enough of their best resources into it, there were something 40,000 men put in and around Kiev. No one is asking where is the real Russian army
@Carbidestruck
@Carbidestruck 11 ай бұрын
@@z_actual The professional russian army is currently serving a special fertilization operation in the Ukrainian soil. The 1st guards tank army, 155th naval and VDV weren’t the real russian army?
@JeanLucCaptain
@JeanLucCaptain 11 ай бұрын
@@Carbidestruck meanwhile thousands upon thousands of Ukraine soldiers and NATO mercs are now dead or captured in Russian controlled Bakhmut. Keep laughing.
@thysonsacclaim
@thysonsacclaim 11 ай бұрын
@@JeanLucCaptain Found the vatnik.
@alexarcher1601
@alexarcher1601 11 ай бұрын
Thank you Chris for this excellent video.
@franciskinlochan5427
@franciskinlochan5427 11 ай бұрын
Thanks Chris, a clear concise and informative non-partisan factual assessment of the conflict so far. I would like to see more of this as the war progresses.
@paullanham1014
@paullanham1014 11 ай бұрын
The videos have always been outstanding, but somehow you’ve managed to turn it up another notch
@DJJAW11
@DJJAW11 11 ай бұрын
... Yet another great vid!. This even applies to game's!. As in infantry support for armour (only needs a few) armour support infantry,or both can indeed suffer greatly,from determined anti-tank infantry,or Indeed armour targeting infantry!.
@FinsburyPhil
@FinsburyPhil 11 ай бұрын
Clear, concise and engaging. Thank you
@Kevin-sy8uf
@Kevin-sy8uf 11 ай бұрын
I just came across this channel. Absolutely amazing content. Very well done!
@jordanthomas4379
@jordanthomas4379 11 ай бұрын
Another incredible video by mr Copson, I could watch an entire documentary on this topic.
@wj5611
@wj5611 11 ай бұрын
Can you guys cover the armored engagement that occurred in Africa between the Russian T-72 (I believe) and the Chinese ZTZ-96 please? I honestly found the results of that skirmish surprising and really interesting.
@kurousagi8155
@kurousagi8155 11 ай бұрын
When did that happen?
@wj5611
@wj5611 11 ай бұрын
@@kurousagi8155 a few years ago I think. Red Effect has a video covering the results of the engagement
@kurousagi8155
@kurousagi8155 11 ай бұрын
@@wj5611 thanks, I found it
@807800
@807800 11 ай бұрын
Would be interesting to see how next gen MBT would look like with the massive proliferation of surveillance and armed drone.
@B.D.E.
@B.D.E. 11 ай бұрын
Probably just means top mounted ERA, and a greater emphasis on short range AA supporting tamk formations, with inexpensive munitions for taking out drone swarms without wasting very expensive air defence missiles. Also means more EW for tank formations. Those latter two things don't/shouldn't have to be incorporated into the MBT itself.
@Brent-jj6qi
@Brent-jj6qi 11 ай бұрын
I actually unironically expect to see tanks fitted with belt fed shotguns, because I’d bet most drones that are the size of a person or smaller will not enjoy buckshot
@rolyantrauts2304
@rolyantrauts2304 11 ай бұрын
MBT is dead its too slow and cumbersome as look at the US Marines and there Future Lift program of a modern ridiculously mobile reaction force, they have scrapped the notion of the MBT as the Abrams is no longer part of the equation and not following front line troops any more.
@p_serdiuk
@p_serdiuk 11 ай бұрын
The Abrams-X has a surveillance drone uplink and can launch Switchblade kamikaze drones IIRC. Having your own drones provides a massive benefit to a tank, and even more if tanks in a platoon data-link their video feeds together.
@rolyantrauts2304
@rolyantrauts2304 11 ай бұрын
@@p_serdiuk that a Abrams-X does launch Switchblade kamikaze drones is an indication to how the MBT is losing significance on the battlefield (does it fire it gun nope a Switchblade). You don't need a $5m tank to launch a Switchblade where drone guided indirect fire is hitting out to 30-90km
@10secondsrule
@10secondsrule 11 ай бұрын
Amazingly explained and very informative topic. Thank you for making this film!
@rolandfelice6198
@rolandfelice6198 11 ай бұрын
I like these reports. Because you have people who really know the equipment and/or have participated in combat I'm getting a clearer idea of the situation as opposed to an opinion from a news reporter.. I truely value my subscription to your channel. Thanks.
@o5m67
@o5m67 9 ай бұрын
During WW2 already, the RA tank units used bedframes round the turret to protect against panzerfausts.
@nopls1762
@nopls1762 7 ай бұрын
Soviet*
@o5m67
@o5m67 7 ай бұрын
RA = Red Army
@worldoftancraft
@worldoftancraft 7 ай бұрын
​@@nopls1762*Sovêt, mister I luv Frentch veri mutch ** Red army. Sovêtskaâ Armiâ is the creature of February 1946.
@reubensandwich9249
@reubensandwich9249 11 ай бұрын
Over 4 months and I'm still have David Fletcher mustache withdrawal.
@Largeportion1000
@Largeportion1000 6 ай бұрын
Well Done, Looking like Chris enjoys a pint of bitter and a single malt as much as armoured vehicles and Fantastic content.
@JosephNordenbrockartistraction
@JosephNordenbrockartistraction 11 ай бұрын
Great job on being a cool teacher. These modern days on any battlefield your tanks get no privacy from drones
@kippamip
@kippamip 11 ай бұрын
I really hope somewhere in the British army there's a boffin somewhere coming up with an anti drone capability for tanks. Something that can detect them and take them down. Be it an automated 50 cal hooked up to a radar or something along those lines.
@paulmanson253
@paulmanson253 11 ай бұрын
I would think something of smaller calibre firing a lot faster than a 50 cal would be providing a swarm of bullets,one of which is all that is needed. Small accurate radar. Yeah,I think you might be on to something.
@adoggone5429
@adoggone5429 11 ай бұрын
In the New panther they got drones in the Tank, also to destroy Other drones.
@Brent-jj6qi
@Brent-jj6qi 11 ай бұрын
@@paulmanson253 I suspect 12 gauge might be the solution, with buck or birdshot
@p_serdiuk
@p_serdiuk 11 ай бұрын
Something like the Trophy active protection system uses shotguns to shoot down incoming missiles and there is no reason for it to not be able to shoot down drones as well.
@kippamip
@kippamip 11 ай бұрын
@@p_serdiuk drones sit too high for trophy. A system is needed to detect them way before they get near to the general vicinity of the tank so they can be eliminated before they get a chance to drop a mortar, or take away the ability to keep them spotted for artillery etc.
@alekzandah360
@alekzandah360 11 ай бұрын
The fact that “cope cage” has made its way to a professional’s mouth is incredible
@VenomOG
@VenomOG 10 ай бұрын
That T-80B in the thumbnail looks soo much better with all that era covering the sideskirts.
@MadBrit26
@MadBrit26 11 ай бұрын
Just wanted to say finally visited the Tank Museum for Tiger day - can't recommend highly enough!
@ChartingCharlie
@ChartingCharlie 11 ай бұрын
Are people allowed to visit The Tank Museum? I would make a trip out of it
@baronvonlimbourgh1716
@baronvonlimbourgh1716 11 ай бұрын
Ofcourse. They also have events like tank fest. Highly recomended. Tiger day is also a good day to visit.
@jamesgornall5731
@jamesgornall5731 11 ай бұрын
Its a very, very good day out. I drove 300 miles to get there and it was well worth it
@stevedunn5546
@stevedunn5546 11 ай бұрын
A very interesting video thanks. I have often wondered about the lack of air support from the Russian side and would be interested to know the reasons why?
@JohnHughesChampigny
@JohnHughesChampigny 11 ай бұрын
Because the Russians failed to destroy Ukranian anti-air missiles in the beginning of the campaign. Any Russian air support risks being blown out of the sky by S300's or Buks if it's high, or by Stingers or other Manpads if it's low.
@stevedunn5546
@stevedunn5546 11 ай бұрын
@@JohnHughesChampigny So do these multi million dollar aircraft not have any defence against these weapons?
@VVV85650
@VVV85650 11 ай бұрын
@@stevedunn5546 Ukraine has a Soviet-style layered air defense, obviously this does not allow aviation to work.
@JohnHughesChampigny
@JohnHughesChampigny 11 ай бұрын
@@stevedunn5546 Not really. They can shoot flares in an attempt to blind IR seakers on Manpads, but that's useless against S300's or Buk, or non-IR manpads. The American way of doing it is to first destroy the enemy air defences with SEAD "Wild Weasel" aircraft. The Russians seem to have made a half-hearted attempt at this at the beginning but failed because the Ukranians moved most of their air-defense missiles just before the invasion started.
@pilotman9819
@pilotman9819 11 ай бұрын
Majority of the cruise missiles are fired from the VKS. Last month, Shoigu has also allowed Russian aircraft to fly deep into Ukrainian territory hence the latest videos of Russian aircraft dropping FAB 15000 and 5000s in Bakhmut and the recent use of "Glided Bombs". Some say this is due to the degration of the AFU's Anti air capabilities which does coincide with the leaked Pentagon documents showing that Ukraine only has a month left of munition for its S-300s and BUKs. While its IRIS-Ts and NATO system has enough till May.
@metatechhd
@metatechhd 10 ай бұрын
💪🏼🔥🚀It's fascinating to see how military terminology evolves over time, and how terms like "cope cage" can become so ingrained in the culture. It's a testament to the creativity and adaptability of soldiers and military strategists who are constantly finding new ways to improve their tactics and equipment. This video provides a great insight into the evolution of tank tactics in Ukraine and how they've adapted to the changing landscape of modern warfare.
@Skreezilla
@Skreezilla 11 ай бұрын
been nice to see Chris get so much more comfy in front of the camera! good work :)
@TTTT-oc4eb
@TTTT-oc4eb 11 ай бұрын
As mentioned in the video, mission-based tactics only work if the junior officers and NCOs are highly trained and competent. If not, it's a recipe for utter chaos and disaster. This was probably THE major advantage for the Wehrmacht - an extremely competent officer and NCO corps - well trained in combined warfare and mission-based tactics. Even privates were expected to show personal initiative.
@novosib9017
@novosib9017 11 ай бұрын
they had experience from WW1. The teens of that time were Officers in 1942.
@TTTT-oc4eb
@TTTT-oc4eb 11 ай бұрын
@@novosib9017 Not the NCOs and junior officers. But yes, German WW2 tactics were very much a development from their 1918 tactics.
@2ndkombat
@2ndkombat 11 ай бұрын
i believe 1st major conflict in Europe after 1945 was the Yugoslavia in 90s.
@kanestalin7246
@kanestalin7246 11 ай бұрын
They conviently forget that
@nils9853
@nils9853 11 ай бұрын
Yeah but these are no white people, so that doesn't count. That's also why we are much more concerned about Ukraine rather then Syria.
@DarkShroom
@DarkShroom 11 ай бұрын
oh yes let's split hairs... okay i will use wikipedia for this: 1944-1956 Guerrilla war in the Baltic states 1945-1949 Greek Civil War 1946-1948 Corfu Channel incident 1947-1962 Romanian anti-communist resistance movement 1953 Uprising in East Germany .....zzzz.....zzzz..... i imagine they are all pretty "major" for those involved....keyboard warriors ready!... myself i'm gonna go for the 1st cod war
@nils9853
@nils9853 11 ай бұрын
@@DarkShroom you should use wiki to understand the difference between a civil war or a tried coup d'etat and a war between two nations. And Yugoslavia went on for many years and featured organized genocides. So I guess mentioning this is not splitting hairs...
@p_serdiuk
@p_serdiuk 11 ай бұрын
Armoured conflict. Yugoslavia was mostly asymmetric warfare.
@Spiritofaconure
@Spiritofaconure 11 ай бұрын
He has amazing knowledge, I would love to watch more videos and love how detailed he is, amazing video
@Matterian
@Matterian 11 ай бұрын
During my training in bootcamp for the Marines they always talked about how the Russians drive into battle and we use LPCs-Leather Personnel Carriers. That was 1984.
@worldoftancraft
@worldoftancraft 7 ай бұрын
Did they mean Bradley either, or amerikkan tall aluminium foil is fine?
@c.j.zographos3713
@c.j.zographos3713 11 ай бұрын
Nice recap and analysis of the year of fighting in the Ukraine.
@joblo341
@joblo341 11 ай бұрын
Cope cages were seen from the start of the war. They were often "unofficial" additions by the crew hoping to protect from top attack missiles. But they were ineffective for that. On the other hand, as the war progressed, and drones dropping "presents" into open hatches the idea of cope cages on top started to make sense. So, the concept of "cope cages" has evolved during the arc of the war. From a joke to useful. But useful for a totally different threat than envisioned at the start of the war. At the start they were intended to deflect very old anti-tank weapons that were not being used, and in theory against modern weapons that the cages were totally inappropriate for. Now, a year later they can use cages to deflect grenades/bombs dropped from drones into open hatches and to protect from kamikaze drones trying to fly into those hatches too.
@Mag_Aoidh
@Mag_Aoidh 11 ай бұрын
I really do like Chris. He is very knowledgeable about the armored vehicles but also the tactics used.
@masteryap3169
@masteryap3169 11 ай бұрын
Excellent analysis and presentation. Best I've seen on KZbin!
@kandyvl
@kandyvl 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for covering this important part of war history. Knowledge is a power. And knowing your enemy is hard but valueable lesson. Greetings from Ukraine!
@CaveDog420
@CaveDog420 11 ай бұрын
I like how "cope cage" has become a part of accepted terminology
@ruiteixeira1594
@ruiteixeira1594 8 ай бұрын
One clue for the NAFO bots: civil casualties in Iraque :+ 1 000 000, UKR +- 8 000 (source ONU in 1 year)
@25xxfrostxx
@25xxfrostxx 11 ай бұрын
This must have been recorded before the recent leaks.
@v4skunk739
@v4skunk739 11 ай бұрын
They are still saying the leaked documents are doctored but arrested a 21 year old that worked at the pentagon lol.
@effectivemelody
@effectivemelody 11 ай бұрын
very clear,understandable analysis in straightforward,simple language. Excellent.
@cglandorf
@cglandorf 11 ай бұрын
Knowledgeable, insightful analysis as is always expected from The Tank Museum.
@Tomartyr
@Tomartyr 11 ай бұрын
9:14 It's unlikely that they saw drone-drops and Javelins in their crystal ball and much much more likely they were preparing to fight the last war, as military planners love to do. These are actually probably meant to protect from RPG-7 attacks from rooftops as seen in the siege of Grozny.
@knoll9812
@knoll9812 7 ай бұрын
I agree the soviets are designed to beat an improved Wehrmacht from Ww3. They are behind the evolution of war.
@frankbodenschatz173
@frankbodenschatz173 6 ай бұрын
Chris has been doing an excellent job commenting on these chats! Keep it up chaps!
@johnmoser1162
@johnmoser1162 11 ай бұрын
Great stuff ... a "delicate" question here - lets say the AFU is running out of NLAWs and Javelins (due to whatever reason), would it be sufficient to let a 120mm mortar explode like 5m next to a tank to derail the tracks (kind of a mobility kill) ? Or is a much higher explosion required ?
@TotalRookie_LV
@TotalRookie_LV 11 ай бұрын
It's hard to wrap your head around just how much smaller T-72 is, until you see a picture of one next to a "Challenger" or "Abrams". It almost looks like tanks of Western designs can kill T-72 tanks simply by driving over them and crushing with tracks.
@MrTangolizard
@MrTangolizard 11 ай бұрын
@DolphinsWIthIgloos well the Russians do little tank with no infantry
@v4skunk739
@v4skunk739 11 ай бұрын
@DolphinsWIthIgloos It's a myth. A small tank has zero benefits. A thermal will still spot it 4 miles away.
@bob_the_bomb4508
@bob_the_bomb4508 11 ай бұрын
@@v4skunk739 it’s easier to get a smaller tank into a protected hull-down position. It also needs lighter bridging equipment, lighter recovery equipment, and narrower mine-breaching lanes. All other things being equal, it will probably require less fuel as there’s less mass to move about.
@murphy7801
@murphy7801 11 ай бұрын
​@@bob_the_bomb4508 sure this is what recon / light tanks are for things like an amx 10 rc. You still need a main battle tank to come back the up when you hit your opponent.
@KaizokuSencho
@KaizokuSencho 11 ай бұрын
@@v4skunk739 But thermals are western degenerate technology! The vodka infused glare of superior russian conscripts are clearly better!
@mat_j
@mat_j 9 ай бұрын
i think you ned to update your videos on Leopards ...lol
@mark12358
@mark12358 11 ай бұрын
What a deep analysis. Facts. Explained. Well done!
@jonmassey5619
@jonmassey5619 11 ай бұрын
Enjoyed Chris explaining some often complex issues over the last few months has been a delight and if i could Sub again then i would. Another title might be to do with Ukrainian battle tactics and how them initially being the underdog has played against Russia and its poor old school military doctrine.
@anselmdanker9519
@anselmdanker9519 11 ай бұрын
Thank you, an insightful and sobering assessment of the land war to date.none of the mainstream media hyperbole. 😃
@Lammedreng
@Lammedreng 11 ай бұрын
Watching a tank expert use the term “cope cage” brings me immense joy
@ScrapKing73
@ScrapKing73 11 ай бұрын
Wait… I thought the outermost layer of the survivability onion is “don’t be there”. Shoot and scoot is an example of using the “don’t be there” layer of the onion (you’re somewhere else when counterbattery fire begins).
@Michalowl
@Michalowl 11 ай бұрын
Excelente video, muy bien explicado y interesante análisis,saludos desde España .Thanks
@Martinlegend
@Martinlegend 11 ай бұрын
12:46 - thats totally wrong - you take out the inlay of the port and clamp it over the barrel and the upper handguard behind the gas port and then you put it back inside - so its totally seald from ABC Weapons
@legbreaker2762
@legbreaker2762 11 ай бұрын
Exactly. It's as if they're trying to get it all wrong.
@Martinlegend
@Martinlegend 11 ай бұрын
@@legbreaker2762 oh come on - the Video is very good but only this one scene isnt
@legbreaker2762
@legbreaker2762 11 ай бұрын
@@Martinlegend No, there are a number of inaccuracies and outright lies in it all painting the Russians in a bad light. It's propaganda.
@free_at_last8141
@free_at_last8141 11 ай бұрын
The narrator saying "cope cages" caught me off-guard and was very enjoyable. Like hearing Leonard Nimoy say "get good scrub."
@chriscookesuffolk
@chriscookesuffolk 8 ай бұрын
In my view the best video on the conflict so far. Superb work.
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