2nd Gen Cummins Y steering vs T steering (4th Gen steering upgrade)

2nd Gen Cummins Y steering vs. T steering. I'm no expert by any means so I could be slightly off with some of the things I say on Y steering vs. T steering, but this video is meant to at least show you the difference between how Y steering on a 00-02 2nd gen Cummins and T steering upgrade are installed on a 2nd Gen Cummins diesel truck. T steering is stronger than the Y steering is and you can install 4th gen steering upgrade, or a 98-99 HD T steering onto your 00-02 Cummins truck. If I left anything out or didn't cover something correctly or as much as I could, and anybody else has some knowledge they'd like add to the comment section then that would be great. This is a good topic for everyone to learn something about. Thanks for watching!
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[@purepanorama8484]

Hopefully I was able to cover some of the main points between T steering vs. Y steering. If anything was missed or not 100% accurate then feel free to add more in the comments with what you know about the two of them!

[@ericrollins8960]

pure panoRAMa great video new subscriber and loving he vids. I have a 99 Cummins with the t steering. I can’t find the part number for the bilstein 5100 stabilizer. Any help is appreciated. Thanks

[@purepanorama8484]

Eric Rollins I will try and remember to get it when i get home later and post it or put it in the next video.

[@ericrollins8960]

pure panoRAMa thanks man!

[@TheHyde8875]

You can just say 2001 Cummins. The 24 valve is just a given since they stopped making the 12v in early 98.

[@purepanorama8484]

Or I can say what I need to say for ranking keywords on KZbin to get videos ranked to help grow the channel. I know the average person doesnt know that stuff though. Hopefully you understand now.

[@REXONATER70]

I have the same front upgrade and bill stein dampener. It really is nice with a steering brace.

[@jevinburgess7887]

Very informative man. But where's the merch? Never too early, you are gonna blow up. Really good content. 👌

[@purepanorama8484]

Jevin Burgess thank you! I've been thinking of maybe doing some decals or something small. Need to come up with design, and a name for things.

[@jevinburgess7887]

pure panoRAMa I'd definitely purchase a decal. Can't wait! I just purchased a Cummins I'll slap it right on the back window.

[@purepanorama8484]

Jevin Burgess I'll see what I can make happen. What'd you just pick up for a truck?

[@jevinburgess7887]

pure panoRAMa 94 2500 5speed, 200k miles for 3000. Having a new clutch installed as we speak. Got any social media I'd like to talk more?

[@purepanorama8484]

Jevin Burgess Instagram @joshuarobert19. I wish I got a manual sometimes.

[@gerryvolpone6466]

Thank you for the info! Just upgraded to a 2000 2500 Cummins from my 2001 2500 gas..

[@brainswole101]

98-99 3500 has T steering that bolts directly to 2500 knuckles with no mods. Whole swap requires no mods. Thicker rods too.

[@TheKillerMarine]

Just an clarify here. 98-99HD steering doesn't work on a 2000 and up truck. The tapers are different. Now from 2000 to current the 2500/3500 tapers didn't change. So you can actually use the 4th gen beefier steering kit Mopar sells. Also to get rid of the "roll" you insert a puck (which come with factory parts), the only aftermarket manufacture that still uses the puck is ACDelco.

[@manuellantin127]

Doc here. Got the 02 2500 4x4. What year of the 4th Gen do you suggest to use? Where does the puck go? SFMF

[@zeedub10]

@@manuellantin127 getting ready for this upgrade. Did you ever get an answer on this puck?

[@forddiesel2344]

Congratulations on 300 subs brotha!

[@purepanorama8484]

ford diesel I can taste 500, then 1000, then 2000 and so on and so forth... thank you my man.

[@forddiesel2344]

pure panoRAMa lol just give it some time and you will be up there in the thousands in no time! Especially with your content!

[@FastEddieQ]

You got a good informational video, but you know talk is cheap…. Make some videos about what you are saying, love to see you working on one of this issues.

[@thatpowerstrokebloke]

thats an awesome upgrade !!! congrats on 325 !!

[@purepanorama8484]

That Powerstroke Bloke thanks!

[@johnricci1819]

If you have the style with the different pitman Arm you can probably just get the pitman arm that fits the t steering

[@johnricci1819]

Dragon Master you might be right , the knuckles might have a different taper on the y steering trucks

[@claymcmullen3430]

2000 and up the taper isn't an issue

[@surferingsurf]

Do you happen to know what the part number for the bilstein steering damper is i have a 2000 Dodge ram 2500 with y steering and the oe damper i have one is bent from hitting rocks etc dont want to buy a damper and not have it work

[@sendittrucks]

Do u feel any difference will be going with dodge offroad

[@pablomarquez4431]

Is there any upgrades for a 96 2500?

[@David-ce4yc]

Have a 98 Dodge Ram 2500 4x4 and it pulls to the right when I brake, I’ve changed the calipers, brakes and rotors and recently the brake lines , I do have quite a bit of play but what bothers me is that dang pull to the right , what can it be?

[@purepanorama8484]

Have you checked your ball joints? Jack it up and check them out. Id be willing to bet they'll probably need to be replaced. Check the wheel bearing out too. If just replace everything all at once while you're in there and have it all apart. The wheel bearing has to come out to do the ball joints anyways. It would also be a good time to check the axle shaft u joints and/or replace them also. Freshen everything up and not worry about any of it again fpr awhile.

[@hunterboehm7135]

they did it from the factory.

[@mangravy2000]

@@purepanorama8484 - "Freshen everything up and not worry about any of it again fpr awhile." How many everyday driving miles does 'awhile' translate into?

[@lanebellinger166]

What is the part number for the Bilstein 5100 steering stabilizer used in the t style upgrade?

[@logantague2938]

I have a 2001 Dodge Ram 1500 would this also work for me?

[@illyrian4life]

my ram doesnt have either one of these parts

[@stevec7299]

With the y steering set up, am I able to throw a dual steering stabilizer or do I need to keep it to a single?

[@swanie4114]

I know this is an old video but what steering dampener do you have on the truck?

[@tannerbatten7578]

What style steering stabilizers do I use the 4th gen or the 2nd gen? I have 4th gen front end ready to be put in but I wanted to know which stablizers I use

[@daltonbanks9283]

i am trying to find that out too, preferably a dual shock

[@tannerbatten7578]

@@daltonbanks9283 exactly. I havent found any kits I think we just have to buy bds brackets and buy shocks sadly

[@andyvillafuerte834]

What’s the part number t style drag link and it’s work for 2001.

[@scopeside]

Can you do this for 2wd?

[@wildboysfilms]

can you put t steering a in 1996 dodge cummins?

[@asmith1124]

There is a another guy who shows a good video with part numbers. He works on a 96 in the video.

[@jeffreybright4211]

Maybe I missed it but could you put the part number for the bilstein stabilizer you used?

[@purepanorama8484]

I have it listed in the descriptions of my newer videos! Check my latest video description and it should be right there for ya!

[@johnchaney8457]

Thanks, looking to buy a 2002 2500, still waffling between a Cummings or a 360. But one that 2500 Cummings I am looking at has the T steering upgrade which I was not sure of what it entailed at first so nice explanation. Is the Bilstein shock you mentioned the bast stabilizer to get? I see alot of the Rancho and others rusting up pretty bad in a short time, this is a concern for me since I am in MN. Any thoughts on which route to take on the trucks might be helpful....Thanks

[@johnconnersmithllc6095]

Hey do you know if the transfer case and the front axles are the same on a 99 Dodge gas motor truck 2500 four-wheel drive as my 3500 4 wheel drive dually Cummins.?. I got T-boned by some drunk ass dude doing 80 He actually skimmed my rear fender who plowed into the back door and my door kind of pushing down my truck hit my front driver side wheel bent the whole thing putting the other way. But I got this part stuck and I was going to try to put all the parts on it I'm just hoping that the axles are the same gears inside and I was hoping the transfer case is the same I don't really want nothing to do with that. Gas motor

[@dylanstevens8542]

For all info look under the hood at the sticker

[@jaxturner7288]

@@dylanstevens8542 the rpo codes should be on the inside of the glovebox door, not under the hood.

[@joetakens6274]

Why not use the Pitman arm from the newer truck?

[@bringbacktheclassics]

Because it's a different angle. I have a Y style and upgrading it to the T soon.

[@MrJram1500]

Am I able to do this upgrade to my 01. 1500?

[@purepanorama8484]

I'm not sure on that one. I dont reme5the brake sizes on them compared to a 3rd gen 1500. I'd assume they're both a 5 lug wheel and most likely interchangeable but I'm just not 100% sure.

[@travishurren2765]

Great video, I'm just wondering what all the parts are called so I can order them, is it just a 98- 99 tie rod ?

[@purepanorama8484]

Travis Hurren I will gather up some info when I get home later for you. May have to send me a reminder, because I tend to forget things too haha.

[@travishurren2765]

pure panoRAMa hey just sending a reminder, you were going to get me a parts list for the t steering, thanks for taking the time I know you are a busy guy.

[@purepanorama8484]

Travis Hurren I'm sorry brother, I have a horrible memory. I will try to post it tonight. Its basically 98-99 HD steering components. Tie rods and center drag link.

[@seanbrossard8178]

Here is a link. mopar1973man.com/cummins/articles.html/12-valve-2nd-generation/axles-suspension-brakes/98-99-hd-steering-conversion-r188/

[@seanbrossard8178]

98-99 heavy duty will bolt up to 94 to 97 2500 3500

[@EvanWSH]

Hey man, I got a 98.5 12v with the T style steering on it, was just curious if you know of any solutions to the centerlink roll causing steering play issue. I'm currently having that problem, and I can't really see any way around it. Replacing the ball joints etc wont change anything since A. They're tight anyways. And B. The slop comes from them pivoting side to side.

[@acescape88]

98.5 is 24v not 12v

[@EvanWSH]

@@acescape88 yeah ur right it's a 98 lol. Mb

[@claytonsuarez8276]

I gatta ask boss. I have a 97 and I replaced the ball joints and the steering went from bad to worse! I have alot of play when driving and when I hit water that is on the road it shoots me towards the water. It's definitely not safe. Any ideas on what I can do?

[@codyodyoo]

Quality of parts used is also a big part. Local parts house parts might have a lifetime warranty, but most of the time are made in China and don't hold up.

[@Jc-pj1ex]

Firewall bushing was what mine turned out to be after replacing everything

[@claytonsuarez8276]

@Jim Johnson nah buddy, straight stock. Since my comment I've had it parked and I've been working on the whole front end.