2Pac Was Great, Biggie Smalls Wasn't! Biggie Didn't Influence Or Impact Hip-Hop Like 2Pac Did!

Melle Mel of the Furious Five explains why he considers 2Pac great and why he doesn't consider Biggie Smalls as a great.
#Tupac #BiggieSmalls #MelleMel

[@72039]

Biggie's flow was second to none, but Pac's influence transcends rap. He changed the game, his charisma, intelligence, and confidence made him appear larger than life. There will never be another like Tupac!

[@chrismoneystl]

Well said

[@ericfavors7964]

100 agree and to add on to that. There’s no better writer or someone with his lyrics content. Pac could write about any issue.

[@cnickyxoxo193]

Pac had the gift of Gab

[@dominiquelee6312]

Every need to go back to me against the world album. If I die tonight song was so damn lyrical. Biggie couldn’t touch it to me

[@DaGrimmOneOfficial]

I agree his Charisma was and will remain unmatched in my opinion just the same way BIG's flow, they both legends for a reason

[@lindaadams1008]

There are books written about Pac. His poems and letters are treasured and sell for millions today... People celebrate Pac's birthday and legacy all over the world... That's Greatness for sure...RIP TUPAC... 🙏 🙏 🙏

[@ETHIOPIANASSASIN]

Pac was spitting things that are happening now and relevant to today

[@claudehouser6982]

I love that!! Well said

[@l9ikjam]

You mean like dozens of other rappers did?

[@shawnstrickland7313]

@@l9ikjam exactly

[@telepathic759]

He's 1000% right. Pac had the greatest vocal tone as well. Even to this day.

[@theinsightfulvisionary0197]

Yes he did!!! His flow and cadence is unmatched to this day!!!

[@frankdees507]

His style was totally original, not like rappers today whose verses all sound alike. I know it’s popular with speaking or singing, but if it’s a such thing, Pac was actually charismatic with his raps, and you rarely see charisma in gangsta/thug rap

[@LouTubeYNR]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@bdalani1985]

I've been to the most remote villages in certain parts of Africa where they don't even speak English and seen murals of 2pac. That's impact! I remember being in the black lives matter protests in different parts of the world last year, and the crowd going crazy when Changes came on the loud speaker, that's impact! BIG was an amazing rapper, but Pac was on another level entirely.

[@rickyqueen2621]

Wow! That's deep! 💯

[@mikjrv]

I think there’s a Pac statue in GERMANY, that’s crazy

[@her5366]

Yes like Michael Jackson💕

[@ahmirwatson9531]

@@her5366 Michael Jackson = Tupac Prince = Biggie I’m more of a Biggie/Prince fan tho

[@billysanders6758]

@@ahmirwatson9531 I Like all 4 of Them.But Biggie Said He Bad like all tha Mike.Tyson-Jordan-Jackson action..Tupac said he Love tha Women like. Prince,Love Women..

[@jamesmartin7584]

My father hated rap, but he loved Tupac. Says everything to me about Pac's legacy.

[@Dsk-zn1yj]

The greatest in music history .Most consistent artist and I'm Irish white

[@seaghdhking9122]

@@Dsk-zn1yj were Irish not white

[@Mr.Toniothatis2030]

Man that's sooo true!! My uncle didn't really care for rap but he loved some Pac!!!

[@alanflores2714]

Facts, my dad & uncle too

[@yahchaazawan6604]

Should of taught you more about God then a rapper greatest black man that ever lived was Jesus Christ YHWH

[@SuperCapuka]

2Pac is the embodiment of Hip-Hop to its core. Speaking power to the people.

[@100timessquare]

2 pac sucked

[@eddietalley534]

Fax, his music did more than just make you bob your head. That separates good artist from the greatest artist.

[@alfredmothapo7554]

Tupac's influence was huge not only in the states but the whole world.

[@paulwright22]

"I remember.....break dancing to Melle Mell".....2Pac "old skool"

[@mikegillins4992]

Pac always respected his elders

[@johndez5213]

Jekyll and Hyde, LL when he rocks da bells!!

[@ItsAnEndlessWorld]

Legendary song that basically breaks down hip hop to it's core. That song needs to be discussed more.

[@albertosierra4601]

Forget the T.V.!, I’d rather hit the streets and do graffiti, be careful don’t let the transit cops see me! IT AINT NUTHIN LIKE THE OLD SCHOOL!

[@tochiRTA]

Top 5 Pac song imo

[@charlescarter1859]

PAC dont get enough credit for his technical skills. He had metaphors, similes, alliteration, syllables rhyme scheme, muti syllables rhyme scheme m, storytelling, wordplay. Each one I just name there's songs examples of. On top of he did it at a high level plus he could freak the flow. Thee 🐐 ! Shout out to Melle Mel

[@061romell]

He could do it, he's not the best at it nor is he known especially for it, we know him for his passion and poetry.

[@micsmith672]

Pac definitely one of the best storytellers

[@bigsam_1007]

2pac wasn’t too much on that. All he wanted to do is saying the message without being technical and confusing. He says the message straight and clear.

[@MotivationRap9]

BIG FACTS!!!

[@charlescarter1859]

@@bigsam_1007 That's my point, when he did he was pretty dam good at it

[@focuz4899]

Pac has 11 platinum albums. 7 of them were after he passed away. He recorded 150 songs in his final year on earth. He was only 25, that's impact. But I do believe Biggie's legacy is impactful as well.

[@100timessquare]

We dont give a fuck how much mediocre shit he made!!

[@MonaSasa302]

Tupac was able to communicate with a rap that resonated with your mind and soul. One could understand what Pac was saying and his knowledge was evident in the present day and the future. If they had lived it would be great to see the progress of Bigs rapping. I believe that he learned a lot from Tupac when they hung out and vibed together.

[@char_d.0908]

There's no denying 2Pac's influence. Still, until this very day, rappers say they want to be the next 2Pac. I definitely agree with Melle on that💯

[@user-so6bu2zq3u]

That Part!

[@eazyecurry8749]

💯

[@md3dasnipa386]

Hey! And Yeah Ya Right! Pac Is DA GOAT 💯

[@char_d.0908]

@@md3dasnipa386 Hey! How ya doing? I've not seen you on these KZbin streetz 4 a lil while 😆

[@md3dasnipa386]

@@char_d.0908 😂 I haven't been inspired to leave any comments lately! Lol

[@brandymzshakur1411]

He made a great point when he said he heard plenty of rappers that said they wanted to be Pac.. but he never heard anyone say they want to be the next Biggie

[@shabazz9053]

Definitely

[@ZaccheriGray]

That was all that had to be said right there. Puts everything in perspective. Rappers today still saying they are the next tupac.

[@rayfromdabay3735]

That's because every wannabe wants to be a tough guy. I hung with muthafuckaz that wanted to test Pacs jaw.

[@061romell]

Plenty of rappers were influenced and wanted to be big, jay z, 50 cent guerilla black etc.

[@510m8]

@@rayfromdabay3735 fr, bruh Richie Rich done told pac about a lot of his antics

[@Dakatari]

Pac and Biggie no doubt were two of the best of all time. Rest In Peace

[@mrblango101]

Don't forget LL.COOL J THE GOAT

[@blackwhite2361]

Vanilla Ice is up there too

[@JPiddle]

Pac was so damn iconic and young

[@kareemsupremet.v.5189]

Melly Mel has always been brutally honest about Hip Hop! this goes back to the late '70s... he hasn't changed a bit!

[@nineroundforest5760]

That’s what we need even if we don’t want it.

[@thelastdon9000]

Naw he has been bitter and hating

[@noorbashit7495]

Agree real og

[@kareemsupremet.v.5189]

@@thelastdon9000 I doubt if he's bitter he influenced two or three generations of Hip Hop.

[@hansmransm8835]

@@kareemsupremet.v.5189 exactly and he had great points about both of them. I don't see bitterness

[@Spiritwonder]

2Pac had way more range than Biggie, Pac can reach more ppl around the world than big. Pac had songs that shifted ppl’s consciousness

[@generallouverture7351]

Mmmmmm!!!!!!!

[@JF..]

💯👍

[@shannan4580]

@Larry Lewis Yes!

[@kangol8663]

Facts!!!!

[@njjjjjjjjhhhs]

i will always respect the architects of hip hop salute. I respect and listen biggie and pac no bias. Salute to Melle Mel and those who was in the early foundation of graffiti, rap, dj, breakdancing,rap, and later fashion as added edition to the mix.

[@diontaedaughtry974]

I listen to many of Biggies records and say to myself not only was that clever word play but what he said was very powerful and thought provoking. Tupac had more compassion Biggie had a comedic approach to a serious situation. Biggie wasn't just entertaining, he was mesmerizing.

[@MrTsmooth12]

Thanks player biggie was the greatest I been listening to rap a long time and there's no way that any that listening to rap can honestly say that Tupac was biggie level is speaking with there Heart not their mind because there's no way

[@KTT3000]

@@MrTsmooth12 it’s different categories with rap best flow most charisma realest stories .. I agree Big had better flow but Pac was greater … Nas was better with the flow than Big was

[@MrTsmooth12]

@@KTT3000 come playboy nobody was fading biggie!!!

[@KTT3000]

@@MrTsmooth12 Nas… KRS-ONE… Big L…Rakim… but BIG was the truth no lie

[@bobbydurden512]

He was just a NY version of Tupac music wise He wasn't all that when you lived in that era

[@QuinnSmalls215]

When the OG’S TALKS, I’m listening.

[@Syphaxx5]

Pac made that sh** that touched your heart and made you feel him. Stuff you can relate to an also sing along to! Stuff we all have experienced it seen! Real life music! I named my baby after that man! Nobody can take his place as the truest 💯🙏🏾

[@avalondavis1470]

I tried to to name my son Tupac also my gf was not having it

[@treasurewashington8519]

Haha My daughter middle name Amaru🤗

[@Syphaxx5]

@@treasurewashington8519 yeah so is my sons 💯 🤝

[@ivy8252]

💯

[@pablovarela5422]

Yo thats real love!

[@mspennyisaac]

30 seconds in and I detect NO lies.

[@YoungShadTv]

Shiddd

[@timothymeeks5759]

Like the way you phrase that..

[@eazyecurry8749]

None at all ms Isaac

[@thelastdon9000]

I detect some

[@rickyqueen2621]

@M Your profile pic tho! 👹

[@KeepItReal213]

I’ve always said Pac was a greater rapper. His impact was huge!

[@sharifsaladinbey7604]

The best break down of Tupac and Biggie I’ve ever heard...

[@howyoudo8425]

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[@finaltouchpro648]

No cap!

[@tarkatanwarkamp5065]

NUTHIN LIKE THE OLD SCHOOL - Tupac

[@supremelyaverage4455]

I wouldn't be here today if the old-school didn't pave the way.

[@Masterquismoney]

PAC ALWAYS SHOWED LUV 2 DA CULTURE!!!💯✊🏼 PAC'S DA GREATER "POET", CUZ MOST THESE OTHER MF'rs JUST GREAT "RAPPERS"... 🤷🏽‍♂️ #MAKAVELITHEDON 👑🙏🏼 #HIPHOP 🎤🎵🎶

[@motorcity9319]

I remember break dancing to melly Mel rip PAC

[@jahlion9488]

Did Big ever give it up to the older generation like Pac?

[@omegawicked1]

On strictly 4 my niggaz

[@GeeMoney843]

When i wanna rap, i listen to Big. When i wanna feel, i listen to Pac

[@justone807]

I fuck with this right here.....real shit

[@rikiamcadory1414]

Naw im sorry I can't agree 2pac had both!

[@nephewandunk9974]

Perfectly said 🎯

[@tempotang767]

Salute bro u nailed it

[@yahchaazawan6604]

Got the realist and illest

[@bobbyrossfella3248]

Pac is the greatest based on worldwide influence and content. He was the most diverse rapper with worldwide appeal. The music he made is way more timeless than most. Definitely more timeless than any other rapper. He spoke on things that people are still dealing with to this day. 1 album can have a song that appealed to everyone. That was the magic of Pac. That guy could speak to anyone. You know how difficult that is to do? The only rappers now that might come close to be able to do that are Kendrick and J Cole. Coincidentally, both of them were heavily influenced by Pac.

[@Python-xs2iv]

J cole is not in the convo

[@charlespalmer1184]

PAC made music with a message that is relevant years after his death that to me makes him the better of the two

[@100timessquare]

Foh...2 Pac couldn't even lace up BIGS Tims!!

[@thobelanimaphumulo3526]

Accurate assessment. Spot on. Pac was great. Biggie was technically good, but he didn’t change the game. His lyrics were just entertainment shit. Pac was revolutionary, an activist. He had passion.

[@adambarney1137]

@jabbar johnsonn he goes another face forward into the pig pin.!! Kool G Ral was freaking better than Biggie.! Thanks but no thanks.. He just was another guy in hip hop a little above pedestrian! He blow up based of of the machine. Puffy Combs. That's very obvious. Dont let the customer in NYC fool ya!! #thetruthaintinyou #andthatorder Simpleton

[@MultiKadafi]

@jabbar johnsonn u giving out a lot of misinformation and just giving out opinions.

[@MultiKadafi]

@jabbar johnsonn Pac first few album's were very political and more underground especially 2pacalypse now and Thug life life volume 1. Strictly for my niggaz political but he threw few party Jam records on there. Pac was doing his own thing and was superstar before he joined Deathrow he had around 2 platinum hit albums and 1 platinum single and 3 hit movies.

[@sdlove1748]

Tupac wanted to be a revolutionary, but unfortunately he didn’t become one because he became entangled in the death row foolishness.

[@justone807]

@jabbar johnsonn facts.....wasnt til after he got shot that people started seein em as a g.....before that he was that lil nigga that was hypin up the crowd of d.u.

[@mx7452]

Pac is the GOAT, anyone who says otherwise, hasn't truly listened to Pac, period.

[@ddear2455]

Anyone say otherwise is a hater

[@Sixfigas]

I’ve heard everything he’s ever released and I still put Scarface over him.

[@mx7452]

@@Sixfigas you haven't.

[@seanhennsey2605]

Pac is more then just hip hop him n biggie are different they want different things in life n what the wanted to represent Pac was for our people biggie just wanted to be the best mc

[@Sixfigas]

@@mx7452 no, you haven’t heard all of Face.

[@TuAmorCheyenne]

Absolutely! In more ways than one; PAC’s influence was worldwide!!! Biggie’s was within the State of NY…only! Besides the advocacy he led, his potent talent, his poetic masterpieces & his angelic face his charisma and personality propelled him across this nation. In working within education, a lot of my foreign kiddos knew Tupac wholeheartedly and were able to recite his music all while not knowing a morsel of English; it was fascinating. Not to say Biggie wasn’t talented however! 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@peedot39]

He bugging.Biggie Definitely changed the landscape.That’s why he’s still considered one of the Greats.

[@JayS64]

Biggie & Puff may have changed or influenced New York, but that's it.

[@johntucker4056]

Brooklyn New York etc yeah not the planet pac was the universe just deep what this man is saying I’m from Brooklyn biggie is my fav rapper but I agree with melle

[@waligibson240]

Tupac is the Muhammad Ali of rap not the best technically however is the most Influential/controversial and polarizing. Think when you mentioned Tupac name what comes to mind..Rapper/Poet/Actor/Social Activist. He's different things to different people, he mean things to different people. Whatever lense your look through you will see something different every time. When people study you and use curriculum to teach college courses your on a different level.. Tupac is an immortal his talent transcend rap,like Ali transcend boxing.

[@JacobStayViben]

Songs like Keep Ya Head Up, Brenda’s Got A Baby, Changes, Dear Mama, Pour Out A Little Liquor, Trapped, I Aint Mad At Cha. Life Goes On. C’mon bruhs. 😂😂😂

[@lupeloera8948]

Hold ya head,white mans world,blasphemy,fuck da world,death around the corner,hellrazor,better days, ect

[@lutgibbs8422]

Dont forget, Unconditional Love

[@richlife412]

I wonder if heaven got a ghetto, pac had way too much material it's not even close

[@geraldmorris4060]

Don't 4get unconditional love

[@olsonwoods236]

Don’t forget Pain

[@makaveliracalmuto1696]

Im italian and a straight pac soulja the greatest Ever like a prophet...one Love to all pac Fans

[@lukevic3051]

🤜🤛🏾

[@aermax7321]

^^^..bOY!

[@tr8086]

Melly Mel has Spoken! THE 1ST LEGENDARY MC!! 💯

[@1993jre]

You cannot get more OG in the game of rap than this man here! I like Pac and Biggie, but I agree with what he's saying 250%.

[@Positiv3Inn3rG-222]

Finally....a OG certifying facts! 💯💯💯💯💯

[@me-pz5yi]

💯

[@brokenpsylens7938]

The look, the voice, the passion, the heart, the lifestyle...Til this day rappers are trying to be Pac.

[@brownin329]

No they're not.

[@hansmransm8835]

No doubt

[@luiso.9103]

U ain’t neva lie !! Pac had tattoos (before it was fashionable), he was in movies , dressed in versace and other fashion clothes, was a G and women loved him and men wanted to be him!! On top of alllll that he was for the people !!!

[@brokenpsylens7938]

@@luiso.9103 🔥🔥🔥

[@adambarney1137]

@@luiso.9103 Huge Crazy Super Hard Core Facts. No lies! My nigga

[@redward18]

Sometimes great is so great it cannot be duplicated or followed. Biggie wasn't talented, he was gifted. Biggie's flow and ability to put words together was unique and skillful. No one has ever been able to match his raps.

[@Gunn27]

Prefer Wu Tang. More diverse.

[@redward18]

@@Gunn27 You just compared one man to a group. That about says it all.

[@sc14Av]

Man was an artist .. could paint pictures with his words

[@tumimontsho]

Biggie only had 2 albums , died after his first one...Biggie influenced a lot of affluent business thinking in hip hop, he touched on social issues, "Every Day Struggle" "Things done changed" you can't say he was just a sh*t talker, I do agree that Tupac had a bigger social/Political/Musical impact, but what was said about Biggie is not entirely fair..he passed after just one album, 2Pac had 4 albums before he passed, plus he already had his trial and error moments from Digital underground to perfecting his craft on Me against the world....for Biggie to even be compared to Tupac after just dropping one album says a lot about how good he was

[@NoCaptivityB]

On top of that, one of the reasons regular people feel closer to Pac is because of his background and some of the specific issues he touched on. His mama was a activist, his daddy was a activist, his auntie was a activist and he spent a lot of his youth around activists who gave him the knowledge to speak on. BIG was a street dude and for many, the topics he touched on were not relatable thus it’s ignored as just lyrics. PAC went to The School of the Arts, which is one of the most decorated schools in Maryland and I would never assume he’s more intelligent than BIG based on just listening to their music or hearing them speak. But solely based off of their musical talent (rap lyricism), BIG was more talented IMO. One more thing, personality means alot in how someone is perceived and I think because Pac was such a big personality and BIG was more laid back, people tend to be biased, typically towards the big personality.

[@ruthg1619]

BIGGIE HAD 6 ALBUM' S BUT IT'S WASN'T ALL IN HIS NAME, BECAUSE PUFFY OWNED HIS PUBLISHING , BIGGIE COULDN'T PUT THOSE ALBUMS IN HIS NAME , HE PUT MOST OF THE ALBUM'S IN JUNIOR MAFIA' S NAMES & LIL KIM NAME AS WELL.

[@ruthg1619]

YOU GOTTA WATCH GEAN DEAL' S INTERVIEWS WITH VLAD T.V & ART OF DIALOGUE, GEAN DEAL WAS PUFFY'S SECURITY ON BAD BOY.

[@awarenessrevolutionpodcast2220]

Biggie had 3 albums cuz life after death was a double album. Pac recorded far more music than biggie in the same amount of time, which says a lot abou t pac and not biggie

[@awarenessrevolutionpodcast2220]

Biggie had 3 albums cuz life after death was a double album. Pac recorded far more music than biggie in the same amount of time, which says a lot abou t pac and not biggie

[@kaylacardinal3053]

Biggie fans about to be mad about this! 😂

[@justafanofnerdculture7602]

You know it!

[@northernking6610]

Biggie fans are mr cee fans!🤣🤣🤣

[@nawak1048]

biggie fans only live in new york whereas 2pac fans worldwide

[@mallyg3125]

But he's right though... biggie was better technically...but pac influence is great and the emotions in his music

[@blockbuster242]

i'm mad already

[@pimpin2fast499]

I say Tupac was our modern day..Fred Hampton..I cried when he died💯💯🥃

[@tommytuckersgoldencrown339]

Pac was raised a Panther. He was different kinda of artist. He was hella woke

[@100timessquare]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.....yall niggaz are lame!!

[@thebackendchild]

Biggie had the greatest rapping skill ever period. The voice, the FLOW, the story telling. But he’s strictly one of the hip hop goats. Tupac was bigger than hip hop, he was a movement, he was realism, he was the truth, he was the greatest influence, he was hip hop itself, with his energy and passion. He’d expose the shit outta all the corruption thru his raps. Not only did Tupac make classics, but he was able to literally change the world with the realism he incorporated into his music.He was a real poet. A goat in so many categories.

[@MambaMone]

Biggie is the most overrated rapper of all time

[@TheBabakanoosh]

@@MambaMone Your favorite rapper probably lil baby lol fuck outta here

[@straightlead8]

@@MambaMone Agreed. Basic flow and rhyme patterns. He's not on the level of say Kool G Rap

[@tswagg504]

Biggie wasn’t even better than Nas at that time, nor Rakim, or Big Pun. He just had some hit records and was hyped up because he was the only NY rapper at the time with the record sales and numbers of the Death Row rappers back then. He was considered the King of NY because he was the top dog sales wise in NY, not skill wise

[@thebackendchild]

@@tswagg504 I agree!!!! Especially for Nas!!!

[@TheAlkebulanTrust]

The Godfather of Hip Hop has spoken 💪🏿👊🏿

[@nookex6058]

Unfortunately he needs more knowledge. Much respect but he definitely sounds bitter...

[@johnnyb5984]

2pac music touches your soul, no beating that !!!!

[@chadwicktyrone8894]

It’s a lot of fools that don’t understand that. I now know that it’s because they have no soul is why they couldn’t get into PAC’s music

[@johnnyb5984]

@@chadwicktyrone8894 Preach

[@pharaohacura3618]

@@chadwicktyrone8894 most folk minds can only intellectually decipher music...they have to think while they listen...while other folk feel the music...only thing i could feel in Biggie’s music was the beat...his words made me think...that being said, i prefer feeling the song versus thinking about it...music is suppose to make you feel something, awaken or silence something...Pac holds that title

[@mx7452]

Vlad guests are better when interviewed by The Art Of Dialogue

[@nawak1048]

vlad need 2 learn from the art ist

[@dipset6892]

Your absolutely correct and it's because vlad is interested in the money the shock value of having the guest on and not actually caring about what it is they are talking about or who they are talking about where as for art he actually has that same love for pac as us the viewers so he wants the real

[@nikko7507]

Definitely Vlad has no idea about the game . Guy is lame AF😒

[@rickymckinnon5393]

@@nikko7507 He has no idea about the game but he's been in it since the 90s🤔

[@camel1458]

They aren't "Vlad Guests" Vlad is their fucking guest!!

[@TattletaleStrangler_]

Biggie had songs about suicide, stress, struggle, the feeling of being inferior etc. to say Biggie’s music lacked substance or that all he did was “talk shit” is absurd.

[@branknappnegashi9472]

Bingo!!! This is repeated narrative....Biggie changed the entire culture.

[@jpair205]

Dawg those songs on ready to die suked bruh the beats was mid his flow was hot that's it

[@MrTsmooth12]

@@jpair205 you drunk listen ain't no one ever touching biggie flow word story telling punch lines period and to top off he didn't write it on paper hooks and everything come playboy you must don't like lyrics!!! Lol 😆 😂 🤣 clown 🤡

[@MrTsmooth12]

You cats are a joke biggie is the greatest real talk!!!!

[@jpair205]

@@MrTsmooth12 🤣🤣🤣 u smoking crack Big L way better then Biggie ong bet it up Biggie ant fukn with Big L at all ready to die sucked azz only 4 songs were played off that album in my city and that's the radio cuts and 10 crack commandments that's it .......that's why he kept remixing shit 😒

[@champsvizion7801]

Speaking of change man Mellie Mel song in 1982 really influenced rap til this day. That song is timeless.

[@fearfgod7774]

Tupac was one of the greatest minds ever. He definitely would have been hip hop's first billionaire.

[@RyccoLamar]

How? At the time of his death Pac was only worth 200,000 dollars, he spoke great but often times contradicted his word by way of his actions. So what about his mind says to you that a 25 year old worth 200,000 who owned nothing (record label, his own publishing or masters) and still owed both interscope and death row money for bail while still facing a rape charge in 1996 would have been a billionaire today in 2021?

[@qthe6thman]

2Pac morals and politics disagree with billionaires. fundamentally he would be an incredible filmmaker/actor and political organizer. 🌍

[@cryogenixoldskool5803]

No he wouldn't of, 2Pac was skint when he died

[@nateplissken8684]

@@RyccoLamar Its a paradox to even think about it. 2pac was too wild for old age. A lot of people forget that he was a lot more famous world wide after/because of his death. I love 2pac but reality would not have been good for him even if he had of survived that night. He would have ended up in jail with Suge. He may have lost his rape case and ended up in prison even longer than Suge. Who knows if 2pac had the ability to become a billionaire after all that but it was never going to end that way. 2pacs wild ass knew it.

[@mayankingrevisited8815]

Stop it

[@danielhenderson6471]

Pac can make you sad angry happy and laugh all from the same song! Nobody will ever make a listener feel the range of emotions like pac could! Genius!

[@mikeblack6139]

Respect

[@theodorebennefield2030]

Ditto

[@adibabdullah6633]

Facts

[@dassolosyndikat5113]

Dmx

[@danielhenderson6471]

Love DMX,and he was the closest thing to pac.just feel pac was a level above.but R.I.P. dmx,he was great!

[@pwhiteukbtbtvgeneral4674]

Much respect but Biggie best that did it chill out sit down respectfully sir

[@michellej4289]

smh ..milleniums

[@EmericaNobles]

Pacs global influence is unmatched. And I didnt even realize it until I got older and started traveling to a lot of different countries. I could be in the smallest, most random country and ask what people think about Pac and Big. Surprisingly a lot of these people didn't know who Big was but they will say stuff like "oh Tupac is the greatest ever". A guy in Romania explained it to me like this. "hip hop wasn't ever big in my country but we all listened to 2pac because his music connected to us people who were oppressed by the government. We were fighting against our communist government and listening to 2pac was a big part of the counter culture in the fight back against oppression. No matter if it's is in Romania, Albania czechoslovakia, or whatever country we listened to 2pac because his music was about the oppressed rising up against the oppressor. 2pacs music had a very strong connection with oppressed people all over the world. "

[@millzoday4117]

Pac was a song writer with conceptual ideas. It's the major difference between artists and rappers. Artists create but rappers just rap and talk shit. Today we have a lot of rappers and few artists.

[@derrickforreal810]

🎯 everything you said is spot on 💯

[@amarirasheed6]

Big Pun > 2Pac Just facts

[@rasheemthebestfirstone3274]

@@amarirasheed6 greater than in what? Because if we speaking overall as a artist pac wins🤷🏽‍♂️

[@millzoday4117]

@@rasheemthebestfirstone3274 is would ignore that nigga. Pun was a rapper. He wasn't an artist. Artists are people like Pac, Nas,Eminem, j.cole ,Dmx people like that. I wouldn't even call Jay z an artist. He's moreso a rapper but he's exceptional at it 💯. Most of his songs don't really have concepts to them. He brags a lot but it sounds well.

[@siyabongabhongoza939]

@@millzoday4117 dat y he'll never be a legend

[@andrayanderson19]

Finally someone with credentials saying the truth. What y’all fina say Mellie Mel hating😂🤷🏾‍♂️

[@ProdigalSon100]

Exaclyyyy

[@leonwilliams4811]

he is hating

[@slickreynolds7573]

He’s a damn hater!!!

[@siyabongabhongoza939]

@@slickreynolds7573 his a hater ! 😂

[@alanstevens75]

Pac don't need no rhymes to flow. Even if a 3 year old scribbled some disjointed words on paper, give pac a good beat and he'll flow with the utmost dexterity. Now that's genius.

[@kingnaldo4058]

*Mel* is losing his marbles.....🤔

[@enchantresse23]

I love how he’s comfortable with his unpopular opinions. ✨ Tupac was king period

[@tonywells7051]

Yup

[@Nikki-kh8tt]

And So was biggie..Both can be true at the same time.

[@Nikki-kh8tt]

@M Says who??? You!?!? Lmfaooo

[@Nikki-kh8tt]

@M ✌🏾✌🏾

[@Nikki-kh8tt]

@M Lmaoooo.. you are a special kind of crazy ain’t you🤣🤣🥴

[@Patriclese]

This one about to ruffle some feathers but IMO Pac just reached that ICONIC type of level. Higher than Big.

[@061romell]

Big is in the same conversation with only 2 albums

[@jameshamilton5947]

@@061romell TO U AND OTHERS

[@tupenny1331]

@M you are capping out the ass I'm a huge pac fan and I like pac way more than big but what you just said was bull shit

[@JaeThaGemini]

@@061romell he only in the convo cause he was in a beef wit Pac 😂😂💀

[@juliof9682]

Fuck No like Big said your Reign on top short Like Leprauchauns!! Pac was never on Bigs level!! Never!!

[@DanFreeman723]

Pac was the Shakespeare of Rap. His lyrics are unmatched.

[@100timessquare]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 yeah ok...unmatched!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Forever.Remain.Nameless]

And this is coming from a NY HIP HOP LEGEND who sparked the careers of many Hip Hop Icons! His song The Message changed rap forever and has to be the #1 rap song of all time.......

[@KtotheG]

Melle Mel was the "mad rapper" who Biggie was mocking on Life After Death. He's easily the most bitter out of all of the hip hop pioneers.

[@sheezykane299]

PAC been my favourite rapper since year 1991

[@j.k.7421]

Pac had swagger like no other

[@dawgpound187]

Yeah me to, as soon as I heard Trapped I was hooked

[@cnickyxoxo193]

When my homies call

[@sheezykane299]

@@j.k.7421 that’s facts

[@sheezykane299]

@@dawgpound187 that’s a heavy song

[@blackkid9498]

I’ve been listening to all Eyez on me for years and still find something new every time I play that album pac touched the soul biggie was just a great rapper

[@kennyg.6608]

Yeah that all eyez on me is iconic...'check out time' 'run the streetz', thug passion, 'we ain't hard to find' is them hittaz...ambitions as a rydah..

[@soulfood8748]

All eyez on me is also very futuristic that album could’ve of been released in 1999 or 2000 and still sold as much if not more copies ..it really changed the rap game

[@reefk8876]

Any song almost every line is a quotable. And knowing how fast he wrote. Real gifted.

[@1000percent]

That's the thing, once u think u heard everything u re listen and catch new stuff. The amount of layers and depth to his music is unheard of

[@blackkid9498]

Pac said some shit I just got blew my mind he said it was strange how crack came and it rocked us 🤦🏿‍♂️😤

[@abdihakeemcisman6868]

Defnitely true...tupac was like the che guevara of hip hop...he changed the landscape of hip hop....a fashion icon...dude was rocking versace...gucci...armani..he upped the game..the style...he was a world wide icon..c'mon this guy was a gift from god...

[@James_Sins89]

Pac is the greatest of all time. Pac changed everything

[@nilevalleyrollin4247]

Biggie 1.)Untertainmenet (co-owner label) 2.) Brooklyn Mint (clothing) before sean john. Before phat farm before rocawear 3.) Uh add libs before foxy before jay z 4.) Coogi sweaters (re-brought em back) 5.) Singing 4 bars inbetween verses

[@edub8301]

SORRY phat farm was first

[@antoniolewis]

Didn't write down verses either.

[@seaghdhking9122]

😂😂 that's the wackiest list of ever seen gtfoh

[@AR-mi9cv]

And Pac still had more impact

[@princewins88bw]

Pleass sit down.

[@RoadtoGloryNetsJetsUnited]

Makaveli the Don!

[@ericduncan3734]

The fact that this coming from a New Yorker is really saying something.. I agree WHOLEHEARTEDLY

[@1966toronado]

Finally an OG set it straight. It's like comparing Ali to Tyson. Ali made a movement but Tyson was one of the best who Boxed. One thing people forget is Bone Thugs said Biggie had to go home and write his verse for their colab , but Bone had all finished theirs in the lab. I don't know how they put Biggie over them.

[@janepatton8100]

That's because Big was emulating their style, so he switched up his flow to match theirs... and keeled it. I can't even imagine Pac being that creative. Pac on his Bone collab sounded just like Pac. He only had one gear.

[@nikko7507]

It’s the truth biggie was inspiring as far as rap music and a good rapper - yes , but that’s as far as it goes . The guys body of work just a fraction of Pacs in the time line and it’s not just about that Pac was thuggin , his bars are like no other . And the persona etc ....guy was truly inspiring outside rap 💯 The All time 🐐

[@Immagodmyhomeiswithinmyself81]

PML

[@solobi96]

I'm from Africa, country Nigeria to be precise, and biggie is respected here by a good number of states. But everywhere in Nigeria, and all African countries see Pac as a god! His pictures and murals are in every African country, Google pac pictures and murals in Africa, and see your self. Pac is up there with Bob Marley Mandela and legendary freedom fighters. Biggie rapped and that's it. Pac touched souls in a way no one can. Just peep the song "who do you believe in"... biggie couldn't invoke any emotions like that.

[@Flashy9824]

Facts much love my african brother from California to Africa...#Westside

[@WinstonbndmkdkmzmmsmskeskStoke]

You’re comparing an artist with multiple albums to an artist with 2 albums. The fact that BIG is even seen as the better rapper is an indicator to how talented he was.

[@Flashy9824]

With no substance!! Nas super talented with substance and that’s y nas & Pac will forever be the god mc’s

[@WinstonbndmkdkmzmmsmskeskStoke]

@@Flashy9824 Yet Pac took jabs at Nas, but when confronted “it’s just rap” lol

[@Flashy9824]

See that’s wrong don’t do that cuz you know Pac wasn’t confronted and he didn’t say it’s just rap he told nas y he dissed him and they settled it don’t make up ur own story lol

[@RappersDigest]

When you great you change the landscape 💯

[@michellej4289]

💯

[@JigziPep]

Bear in mind 2Pac was a movie star! Loved him in Juice and Poetic Justice. RIP to em both!

[@hlenganingidi9863]

Facts!!! You could even argue that the beef helped Biggies career because he was beefing with someone who was more well known. Here in South Africa we could tell you EVERY Tupac song there is but Biggie's music(with a smaller catalogue) is not so well known. I also wanna trash this thing that Pac wasn't a top lyricists because on "me against the world" HE SHOWS UP where as on his later albums he was probably just in a rush to get out of his Death row contract and it was all about speed at that point.

[@philanimanqele8987]

We all love 2pac in SA no doubt ,we rarely hear about BIG unless you a deep hip hop fanatic

[@hlenganingidi9863]

@@philanimanqele8987 So true bro, I love Big's music too but when you bring up some of his music in your circle nobody knows what you're talking about.

[@philanimanqele8987]

2pac was like a revolutionary, for me and the guys we could easily relate to what he was saying even though we weren't deep hiphop fans but 2pac was there for us, cant say the same with Biggie

[@hlenganingidi9863]

@93 Cobra That man played a huge role in getting himself killed. He made choices and they set off a chain of events that played a part in his death. 1. 1994 Quad shooting: You telling me an entire studio of producers and rappers didn't know what was about to happen or after the fact what happened? Could Tupac's best friend not reach out to him? 2. Who shot ya? : Your boy gets shot and that's the song you put out? 3. Subliminally dissing Tupac on Sway. All seems like pretty bad ideas to me.

[@kennylopezjeetkunedo5555]

I'd have to agree with Melle Mel on this one. Biggie is my boy and there's no denying his greatness as an mc and the fact that he put out 2 5 mic albums, but not only did Tupac get better after every album he did, he influenced different types of people from different cultures because of his revolutionary roots and street knowledge. Tupac shifted the consciousness of people because of different subject matter of songs he had and Tupac was also a good MC. As good as Biggie was an MC, he wasn't as well rounded as Tupac was and Tupac had more impact musically. I remember in NY I would debate this all the time because most people from NY don't want to accept this, but there are a lot of people in NY that will admit this too even though Biggie was considered the King of NY.

[@kweli05]

Very good points. I agree. People sometimes don’t realize the meaning of greatness. This is also why most would say MJ is the greatest (and he is), even if LeBron is better all around.

[@WinstonbndmkdkmzmmsmskeskStoke]

It’s more rappers running around now claiming they don’t write which is influenced from BIG. What Pac had to strive to get better at Biggie was great out the gate. What folks give credit to PAC for was unfortunately denied to BIG! No telling the growth or direction Biggie would’ve gone to.

[@richardterungwakombol6406]

@@WinstonbndmkdkmzmmsmskeskStoke I don't agree that Pac struggled to be great at what BIG was already good at. Pac made a deliberate decision not to put his artistry in a box. He was more willing to take risks and explore areas where most other rappers (including BIG) were scared to go. And in Pac's judgement, nothing, not even "lyricism" will get in his way of exploring these ideas. It is way more difficult to be philosophical and a pure lyricist at the same time.

[@WinstonbndmkdkmzmmsmskeskStoke]

@@richardterungwakombol6406 Pac wasn’t just philosophical folks like to glorify that aspect of his music. Pac was an artist, but he attended school to cultivate those talents. Biggie crafted lyrics off the top of his dome instantaneous. Some individuals are naturally gifted at a craft. Plus BIG could write for other individuals that never probably touched a mic and it would be fire whether male or female. Not trying to compare the two just not for the slander of The Notorious B.I.G. . Folks don’t know what music would’ve came from Big so the argument based off two albums is hilarious.

[@richardterungwakombol6406]

@@WinstonbndmkdkmzmmsmskeskStoke Remember that the age difference between both is 1year. So this 2 album argument doesn't add up. You also make it seem like BIG had some magical talent, we know he had a middle class basic education. As Pac showed in 25years, if BIG had anything else to offer he could have.

[@gumbootcity_nz8453]

There are murals of Tupac in obscure places here in New Zealand. Over here Tupac is in the same category as Bob Marley, Jimi Hendrix, Stevie Ray Vaughan and others. Don't really hear or see Biggies presence here in New Zealand 🤷‍♂️

[@jonabraham9291]

Finally a brother talking facts and sense 👏

[@harrellwilliams5010]

Duh pac is the 🐐

[@brianwalker5145]

Pac is greatest rapper ever point period

[@amarirasheed6]

Big Pun, Big L, Kool G Rap, Nas, Biggie, Jadakiss, Big Daddy Kane are all better than Pac Just facts

[@tarkatanwarkamp5065]

THEY NOT READY TO HEAR THIS !! TUPAC

[@ajohn502]

If you get a mural dedicated to you on the wall of a huge building, then you’re GREAT.

[@nihziahmills6963]

Exactly

[@marceljackson727]

I been saying this. But folks always get mad

[@sjn6953]

But Biggie died after his 2nd album. If Tupac died after his second album he would have died after Stricktly 4 my Niggaz. At that time he was a lot less influential then when he dropped his next albums.

[@Synchronite]

🎯 💯

[@ufoseverywhere]

Pac died exactly two years after biggie's first album released.

[@chilechile4458]

Say at the age of 24, not two albums.

[@brolickscholar3083]

Big was slick though… witty asl and funny with it. Telling stories and what not. But Tupac was just everything on that mic. 🎤 Pure Fire and emotion…Style and Poetry. R.I.P. Biggie And Tupac 🙏🏽

[@dc8061]

Biggie was a good rapper that is it

[@ruben21]

“In times of war we need somebody raw, rally the troops Like a Saint that we can trust to help to carry us through Black Jesus” -Makaveli

[@adambarney1137]

Man Crazy!! This shit goes,beyond the stars..!!! folks used to popcorn and fake mob movies.. smh

[@adambarney1137]

I loved the style of RHYMES & that beat & rhythm HIT DIFFERENT WAY B4 FOLKS THAT SAY JUST THIS EXACTLY 💯 SAY TODAY IN MODERN TIMES OF HIP HOP RAP. SUCH A RAW DUDE. HE MADE THE TOPIC HOT OR RELEVANT WHEN HE SPOKE ABOUT WHEN HE STEPS IN THE CLUB MF BE LIKE BLING!! WAY B4 THAT SONG DRIP OUT OF LIK WAYNE MOUTH ! HE NEVER MADE A TRACK TO THE HOOK/ WHAT NOT BUT HE SPARKED THE FLOSSING OF THE TYPES OF WORD PLAY AND TOPICS SUBJECTS ETC!!

[@Flashy9824]

That reallllll shit

[@tempotang767]

Well said somebody raw to rally the troops

[@stephenstuckey]

Boom

[@dro2real836]

I still don’t like how people ignore the fact that 2Pac song representing 93 was a freestyle I think they need to listen to his earlier music to understand his range and the way he can be so multifaceted when it comes to rhyming.

[@theballq]

Tupac couldn't freestyle very well. He was a great writer, poet

[@dro2real836]

@@theballq do me a favor and go play Representin 93 off the strictly album and let me know what you think.

[@theballq]

This is nothing new to me. It's not a secret that tupac wasn't the greatest when it comes to freestyles. He 100% did not spit off the top of the Dom on representin 93. His freestyling ability is seen on what is called 'the cure' with snoop in 96.

[@dawb86]

@theballq the second verse on “Representin’ 93” is a freestyle, he literally says it at the end lol. “Off the head, my freestyle flow/just a couple of motherfuckers that I know, I’m strictly representing.” Saafir, legendary underground MC that used to live with Pac in Oakland said he was one of the hardest off the top. I don’t think we EVER heard a true “freestyle” from B.I.G. (who I do love) as most them bars he spit would pop up multiple times in his rhymes and the old school definition of freestyling was different in Cali and New York...

[@nothingheretosee193]

@@dawb86 exactly like the Pac & BIG freestlye you can tell who's was written

[@joypaddad2386]

Pac touched all sides of emotions that’s why he spoke to everyone, we can all relate to what pac was saying

[@sonofabeach71]

Glad to hear Melle Mel did not agree with that "thug life" part of Tupac. Tupac was not the best lyricist, but he had emotion in his delivery. Biggies debut album, Ready To Die is a classic. Life after Death had too much filler imo.

[@quiks.groove]

Pac the Greatest ⭐️

[@brownin329]

Nope

[@quiks.groove]

@@brownin329 I can literally imagine u being a fat farting biggiesmallslover

[@bigsam_1007]

Facts. 2pac is the greatest ⭐️ in rap just like MJ is the greatest ⭐️ in the basketball.

[@adambarney1137]

@@quiks.groove I'm weak! That was classic

[@amarirasheed6]

Big Pun and Big L are way better than Pac They get no love though Lyrical gods Pac definitely influential and all that but you'll never hear him discussed as one of the best bar for bar lyrically

[@d-money314]

Melle mel is hip hop in case yall didnt know 2pac will last until the end of time people talk more about pac than prince, Michael Jackson, and so on. Makaveli lives on

[@uchennasunday7037]

You are out of your mind

[@ahmirwatson9531]

Maybe Prince, but absolutely not MJ

[@d-money314]

@@ahmirwatson9531 just think about it

[@380fade]

Don't know what fuckin planet you live on but people been talking about Prince and Mike since the 60's. Pac wasn't even born for the next 11 years!!!!!! Smh

[@earnestinecole4030]

#Lol, Michael over Pac!! I respect and love all opinions. Michael Jackson more legendry than Pac. The GOAT of singing, but still better than both Pac and Prince. Loving the honesty though , much love and respect for ALL THE POSITIVE VIEWS.#. #Christpopher Wallace 2 aka Finnis Don King# ✝️☦️🔥

[@RighteousFiyah]

Big talked about the struggle of being black and poor. Pac talked about that and thensome. Pac was on some revolutionary ish in some of his raps

[@sven7037]

Biggie is a legend and ICON and I respect Melle Mel opinion but he is wrong.

[@TeddySuave831]

“THIS GOES OUT TO THOSE WHO CHOOSE TO USE DISRESPECTFUL VIEWS ON THE KING OF NY!! “ 😂😂

[@clouds5927]

😂😂💯🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@Synchronite]

“F that why try Throw bleach in ur eye” 🔥 🔥 🔥

[@lamereohargett8897]

Facts

[@Flashy9824]

😂😂 nope that line further proves melle Mel point that biggie is a helluva shit talkin nigga 😂

[@deadredadon8251]

Biggie rapped about drugs, sex, and other dumb shit! He had no substance! I been saying this for the longest!

[@510m8]

Then you don’t even listen to side B you just hatin’ bruh

[@Mia_Queen4]

Exactly Brody

[@johnmurphy8823]

What you think toss it up means and death row was built on gang violence,sex,drugs and money and power.

[@Rover757]

This dude must be young.....Bigg did get a chance to rap on that other level

[@james441]

He was trying to make it commercial. He started that jay z lane. Biggie wasn’t in it to rap full out yet was better than real lyricists

[@TheTrill334]

My personal experience . At 12 years old I heard biggie for the first time with juicy playing on the radio . I recorded it on a blank tape and played it . In 1995 I got the whole tape of all eyes on me and I played it and learned every lyric on the album in 3-4 hours . Meele mel was real for being truthful because the generation after him never acknowledged tupac correctly .

[@ladydujour2347]

Finally somebody keeping it real on this subject!💯

[@anandexert1214]

Tupac is a movement, a music revolution, a revolutionary. That's why still today rappers says I'm the next pac and no one says the next biggie. I even like pacs flow and lyrics more than Biggie's. Respect for both. But tupac is the greatest and on top of hip hop. Period

[@dogtailsmatter]

Thank u Mel, that's why people can't compare the the two.

[@sdlove1748]

I’ve never bought a biggie record, but to say he never influenced other rappers is insane. This channel is the biggest Tupac Stan, that it goes beyond reason. Every other site or channel says that Mel is wrong.

[@thedarkknight4956]

Who did big influence?

[@Synchronite]

@@thedarkknight4956 Jay Z Lil Kim Rick Ross The Lox Camron Big Sean Beanie Siegel and state property Kanye and basically anybody that raps about “money goes and clothes”

[@thedarkknight4956]

@@Synchronite that's not saying much.

[@j.roberts2230]

MM done lost his fukin Mind!

[@khalidrogers4310]

@@Synchronite LOL! Rapping about $$ and clothes predates Biggie. You might say he did it slicker or evolved the way it was done but that was already a regular thing in hip hop. Rakim CHANGED the game. There was hip hop BEFORE Rakim and then there was hip hop AFTER that dude. Mel's point is nuanced but I think he's correct on this one. I think the argument is silly at time anyway. I say ENJOY THEM BOTH. People love Bach and Beethoven. I don't see why we have to pick and choose sometimes.

[@kenyattacapture3462]

1,000% Correct Analogy!!!!!!!!! Finally.... from a New York Legend. The Legend of all Legends in our culture. Salute Melle Mel & "The Message" is still one of the best rap songs ever made (which I still listen to), the first rap song that birthed true substance in Hip Hop.

[@bestiegrand6017]

Mellie Mel is 100% right on this: The thing people dont understand is PAC had songs that make you think on a deeper level. Also I've been to lots of countries and remember visiting Denmark, Kenya and France and seeing PACs murals in those countries which made me think wow. Also young boys and girls changing their personas and mannerisms, wearing bandanas wanting to be like PAC. I've never seen anything about biggie in other countries. Not even a poster on the wall. No disrespect to big before you internet trolls start on me...he was a good rapper too but PAC has more fans worldwide

[@061romell]

Lol they have murals of biggie in japan

[@jakobbraumann256]

@@061romell But it's not even close. 2pac >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Biggie impact. Come to Poland, Germany, UK, Europe overall and you will see.