2Pac Is A Greater Than Jay-Z. He Had A Bigger Impact On Hip Hop Than Jay-Z and Biggie.

Melle Mel who was ranked 48th on the Billboard Top 50 rappers of all-time list reacts to Big Gipp of Goodie Mob saying Tupac should be ranked higher than Jay-Z and thar Tupac is a better artist.

[@mattquinn6297]

Remember Pac and Big died young over 25 years ago and still think their music is the best out to this day. Imagine if they were still alive and making music.

[@Mr._X84]

You can play the “what if” game throughout history. Maybe they would have fell off or stopped making music all together.

[@bighomiemac3472]

Also Reasonable Doubt was "Rerated" and given 5 mics. Therefore it was rated with bias. Jay-Z may have never gotten off of the shelf if those two had lived. Jigga is still good, but not as good as those two.

[@mendalisubalin5965]

Biggie never rapped a whack line. Pac had many of those, especially on his debut and his unreleased songs.

[@J.P.82]

@@mendalisubalin5965 pac never said a bunk verse and I mean never!

[@mendalisubalin5965]

​@@justinpanizo9821 listen to those last pacs unreleased tracks, he died obsessing about Biggie

[@derekpowell9615]

Pac is like the Bob Marley of Hip-Hop when you think of an artist who embodied the genre he's apart of. He didn't need features on his albums (unlike JayZ) but he had them. Pac is the most versatile rapper ever. Could make a conscious song and you feel it. He could make a song about a can of Spaghetti and it would get airplay. He wasn't technically good as some other rappers but unlike them made better music.

[@Mr._X84]

The second part of your first sentence makes no sense. If he didn’t need them, why have them? A lot of rappers make songs of all type. He gets this mythical status, simply for dying at 25.

[@oppchoppashotta]

@@Mr._X84you don’t know music 😂

[@quann06]

Pac was technical when he wanted to be.

[@Mr._X84]

@@oppchoppashotta And what makes you an expert on the topic?

[@blackwhite2361]

​​​​​​​@@Mr._X84 When you listen to Tupac's tracks that have features.... with the exception of a song like: *'2 of Amerikaz Most Wanted'* where Snoop held his own.. whenever the song transitioned to the featured rapper you notice that the energy of the song drops significantly. It's very noticeable in a song like *'Bomb First'* That's one of the reasons I personally think his albums would still be good without features. The people he was featuring on his tracks just couldn't match his energy level. Yet still its all good because features create diversity even when it's weak. And I disagree with your last sentence. He gets his mythical status because he was good... as well as the drama that went with him. He popularized a sub genre of hiphop (Gangster Rap). Besides... He isn't the only rapper who died young. So that nullified your statement.

[@blessed2950]

TUPAC WILL ALWAYS BE THE NUMBER 1 ON MY LIST AS THE GREATEST RAPPER OF ALL TIME

[@vsk504]

Nas

[@blessed2950]

@@vsk504 on your list not mine lmao

[@vsk504]

@@blessed2950 respect

[@montanaaizmyname]

Your list sucks

[@joaquinpujolsalcantara3130]

Preach

[@20FreeWill]

Biggie is the pinnacle of Rap Tupac is the only rapper who is bigger than hip hop and money

[@MrHowse-rt5bo]

The pinnacle of rap, where? This definitely ain’t true for the West, MidWest or South.

[@fdeckerd1150]

@@MrHowse-rt5bo You hear Biggie everywhere , especially on vacation trips in the carribean and in clubs and radio in California and texas.

[@cornelljeffery3945]

Pac is the pinnacle of rap didn't you just here the creator

[@chipwilliams6236]

@@MrHowse-rt5bo yes and the west ,Midwest and south like to hate on BIG because they are nothing but overrated 2 PAC fanatics. The only rapper that could come closet to biggie is probably Scarface and it's only because he got more albums.

[@tonyh8965]

@@fdeckerd1150 Biggie is not bigger than Tupac. Never was & Never will be. It's a fact Biggie sold 21m albums vs Tupac 75m albums. World wide there is zero comparison. There's murals of Tupac in Afrika to China... you don't see that with Biggie.

[@inmyopinion9305]

Hov probably like Gotdamn what is this kick Jay-Z in the balls week. 😅

[@TheLobMob]

Heavy is the head that wears the crown…

[@blockhart9206]

Jay z took it in the ass like puffy to survive this long ..

[@ST.louis-Slim]

😂😂😅

[@princejones6297]

I just commented that lol 😂 it's gotta be Beyonce and his billions or something

[@jaymac8421]

Jay doesn’t give a damn

[@qumaz8744]

Jay-Z picked up on Biggie's hustle at such a young age. Biggie had his own clothing line, his own record label, was ghost writing for other artists. Jay-Z is building off that Biggie entrepreneurial black excellence mindset.

[@fdeckerd1150]

I read about Biggie having his own clothing line in 1996. That kid was working hard to build that empire. Respect!

[@stankyrandy]

Thank you for this comment sir! We've been trying to tell these new age Jay-Z fans for over 20 years.

[@stankyrandy]

@@fdeckerd1150 Exactly! Jay-Z is good at learning from anyone he associates with and then making it his own. That's not a bad thing but his fans think we are haters for pointing that out.

[@EJByrd]

​@benny randy I'm a hov fan as nas and the rest of the greats. I think every artist takes from other artist that came before them in some way. It's like competitive sports. The torch gets passed over time. Jay now has the torch

[@stankyrandy]

@@EJByrd You do have a point. But Jay unlike other greats like Tupac, Eminem and Nas just to mention a few are on record for giving props to their elders and other rappers who influenced them in one way or the other. Tupac gave props to virtually the whole of New York on the track "Old School." Jay on the other hand, hardly does that but always big himself up only and that's probably one of the reasons when his name comes up as the greatest, it becomes a contentious issue.

[@sfanah3176]

Biggie was a supreme rapper and iconic artist. He was the first complete rapper to balance the street and commercial success. RIP Biggie.

[@anthonytaylor7928]

Actually it was grandmaster flash Kurtis blow run DMC years before him

[@doitall36]

YOU DO KNOW THAT TUPAC ALREADY WAS DOING THAT BEFORE BIGGIE FIRST SONG RIGHT... BIGGIE WAS TRAINED BY TUPAC. HE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE IN THUG LIFE.. TUPAC USED TO LET BOGGIE PERFORM IN THE MIDDLE OF HIS SHOWS BEFORE HE EVEN HAD A HIT SINGLE. I GET AROUND AND KEPP YA HEAD UP BOTH CAMMOUT BEFORE BIGGIE FIRST ALBUM.. BIGGIE WAS FOLLOWING TUPAC'S BLUE PRINT AND ACTUALLY HEARD THE ORIGINAL VERSION OF ME AGAINST THE WORLD WHEN HE WAS MAKING "READY TO DIE". READY TO DIE MAY AS WELL HAVE BEEN A TUPAC RECORD.. TUPAC INFLUENCED ALLNTHESE GUYS.. HAD BIGGUE AND NAS WEARING BANDANAS..LISTEN TO PARTY AN BULLSHIT THEN LISTEN TO READY TO DIE..READY TO DIE WAS LIKE AN EAST COAST TUPAC ALBUM. BIG EVN USED EAZY MO B THE SAME PRODUCER TUPAC WAS USING ON READY TO DIE

[@bondydray3854]

But how come he didn't sell records than Pac ?

[@reefhomiejon9079]

Picked that up from pac tho.

[@pheleekseh1391]

Biggie couldn't touch NAS or Raekwon

[@DiplomaticRich]

Click bait. Bro…get some new material. Create something that add’s to the culture vs asking old artists who haven’t added anything to the culture in 30 years what they think of Hov. Hip Hop is bigger than just rap…it’s moving the culture forward. If Hov hasn’t done that you clearly don’t understand what Hip Hop truly is.

[@stacksondeck515]

Damn Art why you bagging on Hov.

[@cazo8167]

For clicks

[@jaystacks5249]

The problem with art of dialogue is he didn’t even grow up in the pac era to truly understand what was going on at that time. He has had plenty of guests tell lies on pacs name and if he was alive and in tune at that time he would call them out on it. He’s just obsessed with Tupac.

[@bennyaruba3449]

I grew up then and Pac was the Michael Jackson of hip hop in 95 - 96 & posthumously...

[@j2323j]

Hurt 😢

[@immanuelappiah5600]

And you obsessed with Jayz ?

[@learner5090]

@benny aruba 🧢Pac didn't even perform in the arenas or even looked like that. Y'all stay making pac bigger than he was. 🤣 Snoop Dogg was the hottest rapper in 90s.. That's facts 🤣

[@Ykthevibe35]

U act like he just agrees with lies that are being told. I’m sure he takes it with a grain of salt, but he loves Tupac we all do. Just cause we didn’t grow up with him don’t mean we can’t appreciate what he’s done and hear stories about him.

[@garybrooks-tj9fb]

I agree pacs impact will never be matched for Internet numbers what if pac had the net back then he spoke the truth

[@ejeikwutheophilus7854]

Not many hip-hop heads in the continent of Africa knew Jay z but mention Tupac and even people who are not interested in hip-hop knew him. Who is Jay z compared to Tupac? We won't be talking about Jay z today if Tupac were to be alive. A lot of people come to the studio not wanting to offend Jay z. Tupac is better than him as far as hip-hop is concerned.

[@user-xb4fm5rx8h]

Art of Dialogue be milking the sh*t outta Pac’s name… Dayum-😭😭😭

[@lmiko]

Cuz art stay on pacs eggplant lol

[@TheodorePendergrass]

He's not the only one, that's just how much Impact Pac has......

[@johnnybraxton5539]

Dayum Keefe d voice

[@alfatir14]

Thought I was the only one that noticed. Every interview revolves around asking people about Pac and not the person. 🤦🏿😭 These dick ridin', male fan girls love it though! Just look at the comments.

[@alfatir14]

​@@TheodorePendergrass Nah. These niggas be dick ridin' worse than groupies.

[@kavienjay8]

Jay seems to be the bar, & always the topic of discussion for others, that alone gives him a certain amount validation as an emcee. Fan or not … & technically skilled, Pac was just as nice as all of the usual suspects… he had an ill style

[@jfraz1992]

Pac last with most rappers in a cypher he couldn’t hold a candle to big or jay

[@speedyblackston1647]

Nigga shut up Jay z was created Nigga never took over a year and out sold the top rapper

[@johnwise4341]

Pac didn’t have to say much to say alot, and his delivery was powerful. He was clever without being clever cause he had more wisdom.

[@JamesHall415]

Jay z not the bar

[@dewaynephillips823]

Jay wasn’t the bar when pac and biggie was alive🤷🏾‍♂️ His b*tchass stayed on the porch

[@siyabongampongwana990]

I think what made Tupac great is that Pac had a history in vocal performance from the drama and poetry classes he took, so he understood things like voice projection, modulation etcetera. He also gained cultural knowledge from those classes like art history, and probably read and studied classics in literature. He had a better understanding of culture, hence why he was able to change and influence culture in a major way.

[@GoGetYourShinebox]

He was also relentless and knew how to be a star. Snoop Dogg himself said he learned how to carry himself as a star from Tupac. Tupac had Snoop in Versace suits on that playa ish. Pac was born to be in the limelight. Most likely when Pac saw a camera he'd be all up in front of it. Of course everything you say is true, but I also think with Tupac it was in him to be great from the beginning, was just his personality

[@jada8047]

2pac voice in rap was more powerful than any rapper that it didn't matter if his lyrics wasn't the best.. 2pac was Malcolm X as a blood member

[@bigbrothablu7810]

The OG's original point was on point. They may have a greater rap game, but Pac is the greatest rapper. Technical skill is a must, but to be the greatest, you need more than that. Having said that, I think folks sleep on the intricate wordplay Pac used at times because his hits are what most people focus on. But he had skills too. And passion. And knowledge.

[@ddaniels295]

Jay bigger than Pac in my opinion. That thug culture is what fucked this shit up now. Jay had niggas on some chillin get money shit

[@313DMan1]

I But jay rapped about sellin drugs n he dont got pac reach worldwide

[@jamestaylor7119]

Are u drunk,,Jay Z and the eastcoast midwest and the south copied Californias mobbed out game laced dboy hustla thuglife bossplaya style in the early 90s...facts.......u obviously don't know what u talking about

[@ddaniels295]

@@313DMan1 touche. But what did thug life accomplish?

[@deejay5102]

We still having this conversation in 2023? Lol...

[@tarhasson]

Fuck yeah we still talking about it, if these new niggas would give us something to talk about. What we going to talk about the cardi b and offset Happy meal

[@harrypool71]

Old cats still have James Brown/ Jackie Wilson, Etc debates

[@CullObsidianPlays626]

Legends transcend time, this will probably still be talked about for another decade 😂

[@Jay9488_]

Right. Everyone know pac the 🐐

[@JohnSmith-hf1uf]

@@harrypool71 rap music is braggadocios by nature. No comparison

[@Rucker1980]

Jay Z is the Triple h of hip hop. Notable figure during the golden age but a level below the best. He managed to stay around while the bigger stars of that day disappeared and thrived off associations with higher ups, not to mention marrying the right woman. Nothing special as a performer but more than serviceable

[@mosesblack8946]

Lol great analogy! For those of us familiar with pro wrestling it's perfect

[@lilshawtync4673]

Facts !!

[@docgoodwood6013]

Wrong. Nobody herd of J until pac said it. J had no career at all when pac was around

[@sr_73_]

@@docgoodwood6013 j had no career cause he was rhyming like twista and us NY n!ggas was feeling that back in then.. but when he hooked up with Dame and 94 when dead presidents dropped the whole hood in all 5 boroughs new Jay was that deal... Pac was alive in 94 buddy

[@Rucker1980]

@@docgoodwood6013 I didn't argue that and it's not all that relevant to my analogy

[@carlrice1774]

This might be the thing I agree with Mel most. While I don't think that Pac was a better lyricist he definitely had more impact on the culture.

[@myladavis3293]

The way he speaks is like he is not confident in his statement and trying to too much like he is mansplaining with the heavy stut tering

[@zoltankenebisz6161]

Nah man he was right ,period . 2pac was way bigger than jay z ever will be !

[@killerofvikings3577]

That's nice but the TRUTH is the TRUTH and he's speaking it 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@movingqwickly]

Hip Hop continues to spiral out of control!

[@shedparker]

😂🤣

[@iquanwilliams4905]

Right

[@DottyGreenee]

And will always

[@asadthedon]

Shi’d Mel wasn’t wrong sum of yall ahh tweaking hard…

[@bigg1726]

This is not out of control it was well said and true

[@vaiovulture2713]

This dude looks like he's at a 65-plus adult living community center dressed up like its sunday ready to take a stroll in the park

[@paulmahsahn1766]

As one of the pillar of hip-hop he has legitimate credibility to speak on it. Melle mel from the Bronx was the man in the 80s.listen when a og speak. Yes pac was greater than jayz and that's before death. He was greater than big who is greater than Jay and was too.

[@truthteller5521]

Vulture is the perfect name for a scavenger like you. You feed off negativity and ignorance.

[@keiththomas111]

Let's see what you look like at his age be careful what you say about people you sound young and ignorant we all get old but will we be fly as him much respect to the Hip Hop OG he paved the way to what you listen to in your Hyundai Elantra buddy 🧐

[@quentinsimpson5908]

He looks like he raided a 70's vampire closet. 😅

[@paulmahsahn1766]

@@quentinsimpson5908 and still flyer than anything you got Poppin.

[@zaynukem]

Melle Mel looking like Cam Newtons Daddy 😂😂

[@NdoubleN2]

😂🤣

[@trentonobryan2787]

Yes

[@jamarcarroll5393]

😂😂😂

[@neverinthehistoryof8010]

I can’t unsee this 😂

[@kingman1330]

Melie mel is still unconscious from that knockout Willie D gave him!!!!

[@robbybrown6858]

😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣 he might be a pioneer of hip hop but dude is very judgemental!! Heard him on other interviews calling homeless people "trash'!!!!

[@myladavis3293]

He did pioneer cross dressing 👗 in his videos 📹

[@robbybrown6858]

@@myladavis3293 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣 Yeah

[@josephbutler7189]

Yo! That's funny as f*😁😉! but now people gone go & look & sh.. 😆 ..Don't do that. Let the content break 1st....Lol

[@Cali-ssippian]

🤣🤣🤣 anotha triple OG like myself... I'm 49 and I remember that shit... Willie D had hands tho! I remember seeing one of his boxing matches didn't go so good.... But in the ward he was solid

[@reggiegardner7375]

I'm confused is this a Jay-Z hating Channel , every other guest that comes on here talk about jay-z , I never seen a bunch of men talk about another man as much as they talk about jay-z

[@ArtisanWindchimes]

They think they being “real” but they really being “haterish gae ppl”

[@blackjesus2473]

Facts

[@samfields3086]

They are trying to get a response from him to get more views

[@Gemini050788]

The intro over the piano Blueprint 2 says it all “In Jay Z news…Y’all get an interview in article Yall wanna talk on Jay Z”

[@amygdalahippocampus5764]

It’s like Vlad tv for Eminem

[@cuteynurse305]

Jay doesn’t care.. TRUST… 😂

[@Mandarinagent]

NWA started thug life way before PAC🤦🏽

[@stockstock6805]

Wrong. They started gangster rap, Tupac started Thug Life😏

[@elijahstraight402]

​@@stockstock6805 🤣😭😂

[@beastywild]

Can this channel ever get the spelling or grammar right on its headings? It's a bit amateur for a channel that's meant to be professional

[@byronwall8745]

"How im supposed to win they got me fighting ghosts"

[@averychilco]

Jayz has evolved over 30 years, tupac was only around for 2-3 years; nobody knew who Jayz was when Poc was living.

[@slip-n-rollboxing1826]

@Avery Chilco great point. People forget when pac was alive jay wasn't irrelevant

[@sc84_]

@@slip-n-rollboxing1826 Nobody knew who tupac was when he dropped 2pacalypse, strictly for my niggaz. He blew up with Me against the world. Hov blew up also on his 3rd album Vol2. 🤷🏽

[@jonp9300]

@@sc84_ exactly they act like jayz was 3-4 albums in when pac was alive lol the man literally put out his first album & pac died barely a year later

[@melvinhhcp3615]

​@@sc84_This is wrong. Pac was known since Same Song. That was 1990 before his 1st album dropped in 91. Then came Juice. Then came 2Pacalypse Now & the Dan Quayle controversy behind a Texas state trooper being killed because someone was listening to Pac's music. Then came his cameo on A Different World. Then came Poetic Justice, Strickly 4 My N*ggaz, and the Karl Kani ads. Then came the Thug Life compilation & Above The Rim. In between, he was performing & presenting at various award shows, plus doing features for other artists, and taking Biggie on tour in late 93. To say that Pac didn't blow up until MATW in 95 is a flat out lie. That says you weren't here to see everything else prior to 95, which is ridiculous.

[@keithwilkes3515]

THANK You Tupac Was Good But He Wasn't Better Than Biggie OR Jay-Z Lyrically

[@nolva757]

Melle Mel thank you! For correcting this long going debate 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👊🏾💯

[@johneithadunklin8835]

I wish this guy would stop stuttering 🤣😂

[@bayday2134]

He cant since willy d knocked him out years ago 😂

[@johneithadunklin8835]

@@bayday2134 I'm tickled 🤣

[@MrWoo-jc8nt]

Damn, Jay-Z in the pigeon coop getting shitted on everyday.

[@MrHowse-rt5bo]

That’s the problem, y’all think it’s being “s#!**ed on” when people aren’t agreeing with what y’all believe. It’s as simple as this man’s opinion based on what matters to him that he conclude Pac greater than others. It’s not a diss; you’re just immature…

[@MrWoo-jc8nt]

@user-ep8gt4bn1e How do you know what I believe smart guy?

[@groundtrader173]

Puff Daddy was running NY while JayZ was at his prime. Successful at business is what makes JayZ and not his rap game.

[@Mr._X84]

@@groundtrader173 What do you think opened those opportunities up to him? His rap game.

[@NGT4LIFE]

Pac didn't focus on being the most lyrical He just focused on delivering his lyrics in the correct way for maximum impact. You don't need to be the most lyrically complex to make the best songs... You just need to make people feel it and that applies to any genre of music. So I've always preferred pacs music over big,Nas and jays etc. I think Pac overall was the complete package as a rap artist.

[@delimacuswilhite5235]

Plus he has one best rap voice over beats. Pac just the best overall

[@Python-xs2iv]

Not to mention, if he really wanted to be lyrical, he could be.

[@Ironmanpwnz]

yes brother I agree with this

[@sarahwright8645]

@@Python-xs2ivI agree. His song. ‘Me and My girlfriend’ is one that really shows his lyricism and word play.

[@Python-xs2iv]

@@sarahwright8645 That's one of 2pac's best songs

[@bennisford1712]

I didn't understand.... NOT one word from Mel...😂😂💀

[@Rah229]

This channel should be called the art of Tupac! 😂😂😂 dope content tho

[@mauricerobinson3184]

Bro, every time he's going about a good interview some how pac becomes the subject.

[@lordjoyous]

The art of hating jay z

[@babyjesus1056]

It’s a Tupac page

[@jfraz1992]

The dickriding of Tupac

[@dudesupremeX]

The art of Death row records and bad boy records. It’s all he talks about

[@tonyjulian1289]

Talking in circles

[@daniel_debo]

The Jay-Z hate is real 🤣. Pac Big and Jay-Z all legends sick of people hating. Pac Big and Jay-Z have all been rappers I have grown up to in my younger days and still bump now.

[@craigr9831]

Music by and large is regional. Don't get me wrong you have your rap purist in every region but people in the south don't bump Jay-Z shit like that and I would assume people up north don't bump YG shit like that. no disrespect to either. Me personally I'm not impressed by Jay-Z at all but again I'm from the south and that NY sound just not my cup of tea. It's not hate it's just in general that's how it seems to be.

[@daniel_debo]

@Craig R I respect what you're saying if you not feeling Jay-Z I live in the UK and he does get bumped a lot over here.

[@craigr9831]

I see. I don't know how it is over there but here it's different types of sounds based on what part of the US your in. Me, I'm originally from Florida and Rod Wave was a very popular rapper in Florida years before he hit super stardom. You have to understand the US is so large to where culturally we in the south are different slightly than people in the north. And vice versa. We don't sound the same. Don't get me wrong at have most things in common but they're are differences that also makes us distinct. When I came up Uncle Luke was the King of the south but also others. Nobody was listening to Jay Z. If anything we listened to Pac

[@Chris-tv1qz]

Jay Z overrated bro. He barely good at rap

[@daniel_debo]

@Chris Jay-Z isn't over rated and he can rap just a typical Jay-Z hater foh with that bullshit

[@bashmanahmet]

Jay-Z is overrated. It should be an honor for him to be mentioned in the same list with Pac and BIG. All Eyes On Me album is bigger than Jay-Z's entire career. 7 day Theory is bigger than Biggie's entire career.

[@JohnKing-jz9zb]

Tupac Stans are obsessed with 1.3 billion dollar jayz 😂😂😂😂😂

[@ArtisanWindchimes]

It’s quite sad actually 😢

[@bayday2134]

They know pac lost when he started obsessing with Jays homie Biggie in his last works.🤣

[@EllionTy]

It's no different than the MJ and Lebron comparison that's what we do 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@bigtucc1950]

@@bayday2134 lol what?

[@bayday2134]

@@bigtucc1950 listen to pacs unreleased tra ks, he has hella tracks mentioning Biggie.

[@blackcodex6057]

Why they let OG get on camera with all that old ass fake jewelry on?

[@djflipthaboss]

Tupac is Like Bob Marley , Martin Luther King Jr And people like that... His impact on Hip Hop is greater... he's style wasn't about Metaphors and word play etc ... 50 - 100 years from now people will still be talking about Tupac !!!!!!

[@sirleroyale4412]

JZ had us all turn in our gold for platinum and white gold

[@madedigital]

yawn ...thats it???

[@daddy152]

@@madedigitalno that’s not it he had us turn in them throw back jerseys for button ups he was the first rapper who’s sneaker deal really took off Roc A Wear was an official clothing line he put out game changing artist like Kanye and Beans Camrons only platinum album came under Roc A Fella he has classic albums he donates money to charity and his hood I can go on and on PAC was great however Jay is greater

[@blvdskino9363]

@@daddy152 he had Upnorth folks doing dat not down south & anywhere else outside of East coast regions 😂

[@cazo8167]

@@blvdskino9363 nah down south cats was definitely doing it too.. example T.I, lil flip, and regular ppl too. I live in the south and seen with my own eyes

[@blvdskino9363]

@@cazo8167 Dey were already doing dat sports is huge out here! Miami Boyz were notoriously known for wearing their Miami jerseys In Atlanta late 80s early 90s

[@AjCubia]

Some of yall got one track minds....I like good music I still bump jay,pac, and biggie on the regular

[@dn30001]

Exactly. Some people love to be polygamous with their women....but monogamous with their music.

[@damongbsn7]

@@dn30001 well said bro

[@ocloud7163]

this guy sounds like he all over the place and that stuttering is out of control....lmao

[@erickirkland4698]

😂😂😂😂 I was thinking the same thing I had to watch again

[@Ironmanpwnz]

that's how you know he dont even believe his own bullshit lol

[@didyouknowamazingfacts2790]

Everything he said made perfect sense. Jay-Z is lyrically better. But Tupac is a greater rapper. The word great has more metrics than just being the most lyrically.

[@trakibmusic1974]

can i use this video ?

[@markrodriguez5509]

The realest shit i have ever heard so far when it comes to comparing greatness. Pac Set the bar way too high and we will never have another 2Pac. We will see another jay z, but not another 2pac.

[@MrHowse-rt5bo]

We’ve seen plenty Jay Z’s already. Even they say Pac is better than him though…

[@AlfaQgoode]

This channel is becoming The Art of Gossip. I would like to see these guests questioned about what they're doing with their own lives and talk about events they were involved in. It seems like every title is somebody says somebody is better than Jay-Z. I can predict that every clip will be about another artist and not what he's been doing or planning to do. 🔮

[@iamgreatiam7348]

Because that's who nuts people ride

[@sc84_]

@@iamgreatiam7348 Nah you cant stand people actually prefer Jay over their fav rapper. Its hate plain and simple.

[@AlfaQgoode]

@@iamgreatiam7348 So I had a point about the channel being The Art of Gossip?

[@yohawk2]

Facts

[@rick6672]

@@AlfaQgoode It's all business brother! Nothing personal. Having a KZbin channel is a business

[@STACTV]

Hov made people want to get they business right….PAC was more impactful on a everyday level

[@richardterungwakombol6406]

Master P had more impact business wise to the rap game than Jay

[@keithbranch7718]

But who the billionaire

[@richardterungwakombol6406]

@@keithbranch7718 Being a billionaire is not the height of impact on society. There are scientists, civil right activist etc who have contributed to society in ways a billionaire never will. So, trying to erase Master P's contribution because he is not a billionaire is very lazy. For the most part, billionaires are parasites.

[@keithbranch7718]

@@richardterungwakombol6406 We talking about fucking business nothing else that not the dam question...

[@claypelzer4051]

​@@keithbranch7718 and who's broke , stealing from his son.😂😂😂😂😂

[@lawrenceblack322]

I'll say this Mel is totally correct. I think Marvin Gaye was the greatest artist ever but 2Pac was on the same level as Marvin but just in the rap game. To all other rappers I'll say "How you figure you bigger than the biggest." LOL

[@anthonytaylor7928]

Tupac on the same level as Marvin gaye? Are u delirious???

[@lawrenceblack322]

@@anthonytaylor7928 Greetings. When talking with someone new it's always best to keep it civil and respectful first of all and second of all I said if you read that I believe 2Pacs influence was (similar) to Marvin Gayes influence, BUT speaking only about the rap game for 2Pac but not in any other genre of music. Brother do you remember me describing it that way? So, you feel how you feel and I'll feel how you feel, but the end of the day stay civil AND show respect.

[@lawrenceblack322]

@Jim Crawford First of all, when talking with someone new it's always best to keep it civil and respectful first of all and second of all I said if you read that I believe 2Pacs influence was (similar) to Marvin Gayes influence, BUT speaking only about the rap game for 2Pac but not in any other genre of music. Brother do you remember me describing it that way? So, you feel how you feel and I'll feel how you feel, but the end of the day stay civil AND show respect. And your problem is with your damn self because you are not speaking to no damn Gen X or Millennial so get your facts straight and come correct with some respect and at THAT time I'll do the same.

[@lawrenceblack322]

@Jim Crawford I normally would not continue to engage with someone I don't know like this, but I'll mention this for the last time and if you can't appreciate a perspective that is different than yours that's up to you. I BELIEVE that young people know 2Pac, like older people know Marvin Gaye. They both had different genres and I said Marvin was the GOAT, but to alot of young people 2PAC was the goat. So they are not on the same level musically, but their impact "seems" to be SIMILAR in their respective genres and I'm out.

[@cmoney3035]

Old boy needs to get out of the 80s that watch is about the fall apart.

[@dubblebarrelnoyz1862]

Alexander the Great?... What's that now?... Come again?

[@chrisclark4197]

Jay wasn’t touching Big ,so how he’s going touch pac facts lyrics both legends would ate Jay up period

[@ianmugar988]

🧢

[@tacomasfinest5034]

Pac was better then both them niggas in general in all around aspects... rapper, storyteller, actor...activist... revolutionary type leader.....nobody in rap/hip hop history fuccn wit the greatest 2PAC!!!....you better put that RESPECT!!! on his name!!!

[@champsvizion7801]

Why does everyone on both sides get in their feelings over fucking opinions? It's subjective.

[@linkenavi3290]

Is it me? Does this guy stutter alot and doesn't sound confident 🤔

[@rosslaverdure]

With that fit, you'd think he has all the confidence in the world.

[@lbcelid8622]

The goat conversation started probally in 1997 when Biggie died. Since thdn everyone has their opinion. Jay-z put his work in just like Dr Dre but not as consistent.

[@ADMAFIA210]

Then it wasn’t like Dre…also gotta consider the factor that Dre been doin it since the 80s

[@njnatl09]

Why you comparing a rapper to a producer and Dre has not been that consistent in the last 20 years

[@groundtrader173]

People don’t realize that Puff Daddy was running NY while JayZ was in his prime. It was business that made JayZ.

[@njnatl09]

@Ground Trader you mean bad boy definite Not Puffy as a whole he has two platinumm albums.. in fact bad boy run was from 94 till about 97 ..Jay has 14 multi-platinum albums you do the math

[@jmard24]

@@groundtrader173 What? jay had niggas moving different way before he became a billionaire. Hov changed rappers whole mindset on how to move in the game.

[@MrWrightNowTV]

Jay-Z still living rent free in peoples head I see smh

[@colossus112785]

I would love to see Big Daddy Kane come on the platform

[@alfatir14]

Why? He's just gonna be asked about Tupac. 🤦🏿😭

[@colossus112785]

@@alfatir14 umm Kane is a hip hop legend how old are u?

[@datniggaeazye.5968]

@@colossus112785 yeah but you know what Art's about so that's gonna be most of the questions

[@mrstanbmw]

Kane is the ultimate showman, and a certified beast on the Mike

[@colossus112785]

@@datniggaeazye.5968 I mean I was just saying I'm sorry I mean dang

[@swae730]

I wish ppl stop comparing other ppl craft..they all good in their own right..everyone is entitled to their own opinion..BLK ppl always comparing one another..why can’t they all be great an let it goooo already..it’s always this person said this..what u think about it..I’m over it..🤦‍♀️

[@abdullahsaddiq9514]

Nah, rap is good because of competition, that shit is necessary and the game is more exciting because of these conversations

[@MrHowse-rt5bo]

They’re all not “great” though. That don’t require a comparison, but a basic analysis.

[@KtotheG]

Stop it... this ain't a black thing. All humans compare and contrast. It's what we do. We're a competitive species.

[@quanjones364]

Your platform is who hates Jay Z the most 😂😂😂.Meanwhile Jay Z on a whole other galaxy.

[@thesupervisor3270]

It was who hate Tupac the most so he ran out of them now it’s turning into who hate Jay Z

[@brotherhood302]

Facts...Tupac is a good rapper...Jay z is a great MC...hip hop vs Rap

[@cw6152]

Exactly!!!!

[@samfields3086]

Exactly and people like them stay in the same places

[@bigshod5037]

Just listen! This is just the truth!

[@jayb.9132]

2pac and it's not even close ! Pac was a lyrical genius ! A lot of men was jealous because of his greatness and how much the women loved him.

[@jordanfauntleroy2013]

Biggie had tons of women too. Faith Evans, Charlie Baltimore, and Lil Kim. Jayz had a prime Beyonce and could have any woman he wants. I doubt that they would be jealous. They are also both lyrically better than Pac, however Pac had better songs and was a phenomenal writer. I would say he is the best writer when it comes to story telling and overall his music is just better. Pac is the better Artist by a longshot.

[@TheShadow84]

I never understood people who act like Pac can't Rap.

[@SachinViratSharmaDohni]

They just dummies 😂 PAC was winning rap contests at the age of 14, he definitely knew how to rap and do it bloody well. To me He is the G.O.A.T 💯

[@LimaKiloRomeo]

It’s not that he can’t rap (he’s the embodiment of rhythm and poetry), it’s that he wasn’t a lyricist like Biggie. Pac was more of a poet. Lyrically, Biggie is better IMO than Pac; In terms of *greatness* , he edges out most rappers because of his overall impact. If he isn’t the *greatest* of all time, he’s most definitely the greatest of modern times (the last 25-30 years).

[@Python-xs2iv]

​@@LimaKiloRomeo Pac was most definitely a lyricist. You just need to dive into his catalogue a bit.

[@grinchoi1]

That beard is wylin though. Looks like he missed mad spots

[@clevelandvillain6084]

😅😂🤣

[@GodIsDaReason]

💀💀💀💀

[@jessil1821]

Rather listen to Tupac all day

[@coon066]

Question? Was Jay-Z a better rapper than Pac in 96??? It’s funny that we seem to forget that, if Pac was still alive, his lyricism, rap style etc would have grown, evolved, and elevated!!! We give current day rappers the nod over Pac and the music that we judging by is OVER 20yrs old in age!!!! 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@odelljones6482]

Tupac is the goat period!!!

[@kevincurry1094]

Thank you ❤️ 💯

[@reddead6842]

Definitely the greatest rap artist ever. His delivery was stronger than any other rapper till this day.

[@Monter313]

Hov was better in my opinion.

[@ColtranesOffspring45]

Jay was in it for the money, those type guys are never as influential. Floyd Mayweather/Muhammad Ali, one in it for 💵, the other guy is loved more.

[@Python-xs2iv]

Everyone needs money my friend

[@robrob3894]

Props to Mel for his expertise on Hip Hop Culture

[@mykchek7]

Everybody got their opinion. Tupacs Impact was huge. I feel Jay is definitely overall a better emcee.

[@datniggaeazye.5968]

@@youngtupac1971 unlike your father's impact in your life

[@itsmewhatshisface9386]

Compare a 25yr old Jay-Z to 25yr old Pac, now who's better

[@beenhavingsht2479]

@@itsmewhatshisface9386compare 2pac first 2 albums too bigs first 2 people don't like that cus big shit would destroy it in a heart beat

[@dubwin11]

Pac the Goat of Goats 🐐👑 bigger than rap AND globally untouchable 💯

[@chukwunenyeekwebelem1198]

Tupac is the Greatest rapper of all time.There is almost no country where he is not recognised.

[@kevincurry1094]

Thank you ❤️ 💯

[@kc-zf1jp]

😫😫😫🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ericjohnson5822]

😂like biggie said, lyrically niggas can’t see me 💪🏿

[@antonioridah172]

Facts

[@kevoncox]

But he's not a better rapper.

[@d.bluntt6699]

Damn hard to understand him and and and and and and and lol but I got it now lol 😂😂

[@theghettocookingshow]

East Coast Rappers just don't like the West Coast sound.

[@TheZayzkidd3]

This dude is from NY and he's saying this... We all know how NY hate 2Pac. 2Pac's rap game isn't predictable. Who had a style like 2Pac? If someone tried to rap like 2Pac we'd instantly know they're copying 2Pac.

[@lockedndagamelifestylefilm1378]

People don’t understand how lyrical PAC is

[@YaYa_1435]

Jay Z is predictable. He stole Jaz O, BiG, and other artists chiit 😂

[@michaelharris601]

Please explain how PAC is lyrical?????

[@mfknrmxthebangmessiah6012]

That’s because he WASNT lyrical. Smh

[@nasibnwalker6759]

Agreed pac had lyricism Melle talking in circles matter of fact if you listen closely you can hear pics influence in big rhyme scheme

[@dwighttrammer2434]

I swear y’all just disrespect Pac and his lyricism because he did use all theses over head bars and intricate rhymes patterns that sound good but don’t mean shit!

[@donpetazaragomatuta9988]

The problem is the other rappers did hip hop for their hood or the place they came from but 2pac was making music for the world his music is food for the brain and easy to catch it for those who don't even like hip hop

[@quiltbuiltjoker4406]

Melle Mel needs a speech therapist cause all that stuttering is activating my SIRI search functions

[@jiveturkey1367]

Lmao man

[@jiveturkey1367]

You none talkin bastard in the words of Gee money from New Jack city 😂

[@Stjock78]

🤣🤣

[@edub8502]

I want to hear his thoughts on Big and Jay. Who does he prefer.

[@thdegj]

He repeated his stance just now. Big is the better rapper pac had bigger impact. He doesnt prefer either cuz they don't make music that's his preference.

[@MrHowse-rt5bo]

‘Big is better rapper, Pac is the greater rapper.’ It really didn’t change.

[@75afms]

If he wasn't a better rapper he would have been.....since the times have changed.

[@KtotheG]

He'd probably say Jay since Big dissed him on Life After Death with the "Mad Rapper" skit.

[@MrTD714]

Ny prefers big but since he dead hov

[@punchlinevideos6543]

I agree with most of what he is saying, but to say jay didn't change the game. c'mon now. jay-z has influenced the game as far as style, dress, making it looks prestigious. We weren't talking about 4.0's and rocking button ups if it wasn't for jay. his platforms from 40/40 to tidal and more shows how he changed the game and still continues to til this day. People need to recognize.

[@jkbzz]

true. everything you mentioned is not music related, it's culture related. JayZ has probably had more impact on the culture as it is today but 2pac's impact through music is felt across the universe.

[@davruck1]

Y’all suburban weirdos have ruined hip hop. Nobody cares about the 40/40 and tidal. People are getting their own money and don’t feel the need to be a mogul. Being a mogul is corny. It attracts too much attention and you have to kiss white peoples a$$. Ooops I forget most of y’all on here are either white or love being around white people.

[@stackheads]

Jayz had an impact on business. Tupac had an impact on life. Jayz blows up a business then sells it. If you loved rocafella gone, supported armodale their first liquor gone, Roc a wear, gone dusse sold etc. You can learn from him but there are no feelings in business and he told you a long time ago he's a business man.

[@MrHowse-rt5bo]

No one’s dressing like Jay Z, and don’t nobody want to look like him neither. Stop it! He may have influenced you to put on a shirt, rather than coming out the house any type of way, but other people had already done that. Same with cars. He did nothing new with 40/40 nor Tidal, those were dang near copycat businesses. He’s being recognized by everyone acknowledging him being a billionaire, but impactful; not really?!

[@jkbzz]

@@MrHowse-rt5bo thanks for the response bro, I couldn't have said it better

[@porkchopnu4096]

Why yr is OG dressed like Zoro on the bugger sugar

[@ganktuh]

"I remember breakdancin' to Melle Mel Jekyll and Hyde, LL when he Rocks the Bells" -Tupac 'Old School'

[@carllacrete]

Art makes everybody sign a 2 pac is a goat d ride contract before coming on shit is crazy 😂😂

[@adamkumi7122]

Notice these guys never get interviewed about themselves cause they got nothing going on, gotta talk about old stories and people or no one wants to hear from you shit be sad

[@adamkumi7122]

We’re the only genre that does this

[@bigginsg8711]

I dont even like JayZ but the recent JayZ hate seems a bit much.

[@Casanova102986]

jayz needs to stfu about him being the goat . he isn’t . he’s getting backlash . biggie the goat .

[@kingnovi9404]

@@Casanova102986 how can someone who dropped 2 albums be the goat. Be foreal

[@cazo8167]

@@Casanova102986 lol but when wayne say it its cool?

[@Casanova102986]

@@kingnovi9404 most rappers say he’s the greatest so who are you to know better than them ? even jay-z said it before beyoncé had him lying to himself . you need a link ????

[@Casanova102986]

@@cazo8167 it’s admirable when wayne says it . wayne changed rap significantly more then jay-z . much more of a impact than jay-z .

[@JukefromHouston]

I remember Willie D knocked out Melle Mel

[@steppababynupe]

That definitely happened

[@NoLineNoWait123AbC]

So what does that mean?

[@socrates39]

Billboard got these Ninjas all riled up over a “List” when no real FBA was in that room making the list….FOH🤨

[@thecunninlynguist]

Melle was all smiles at the grammys with hov

[@ArtisanWindchimes]

He just said that Big and Jay are better rappers than Pac. He even said he would consider himself the greatest just like Pac

[@jasonallen3678]

You're doing exactly what he talked about and Jay Z ain't his damn boss,so he can say what he want about dude kid..

[@quentinsimpson5908]

Cause he is a old phoney

[@mfjudge9212]

​@@quentinsimpson5908 Get your thumb out of your ass

[@SaudiGod]

Remember him talking shit getting Ko’d by Willy d

[@markhamilton3178]

Tupac the Greatest

[@Destroyer-Grizzly-BIH]

JayZ - “The City Is Mine” is greater than a lot of that thong wearing wannabe gangsters shit.

[@emmanuelmondesir8677]

Its a song about Biggie Smalls using Biggie producers. Nice try.

[@d-money314]

Melle Mel is one of hiphop Godfathers

[@2cents2]

I couldn't agree more like 2pac's style was simple but it's the soul and the fly style riding the beat he put in tracks that made his music legendary. To call someone the greatest you have to start at the beginning when hip-hop was created until now and compare music catalogs with how much good music that artist had. That's why I say 2pac is the greatest,there are tons of rappers who can rap super fast but look at their overall music made.

[@terrancethompson5184]

Facts Facts Facts couldn’t have said it better

[@chilechile4458]

And that "riding the beat" that there my man; Tupac even made wack beats sound good. He knew his chords. A reference even made by Eminem. You see a lot of MCs be studying Tupac till date, but most won't even admit that.

[@slip-n-rollboxing1826]

Jay and big rhymes were basic

[@fairviewgreensmade]

🎯

[@MrHowse-rt5bo]

Jay Z is dang near talking on beats nowadays and y’all keep talking about Pac’s style being simple. What has Jay Z taught y’all through his music prior to 444? It was bricks and chick up until that point. I guess that’s a talent, saying the same thing a different way for 25 years; but it’s not enough to be compared to Pac.

[@mastertcoaching4785]

Pac was bigger than the game and matter of fact he "organically" changed the game as opposed to the game dictating to us what it is...

[@moloperams]

That billboard vibe rankings really hurt some feelings 😂😂

[@Ironmanpwnz]

bro im sayingggg you can straight up tell Melle Mel is hot that he was ranked 48th all time lmaoo mfer talkin bout "I dont care" 🤣 that's why he stuttered like 20 times before he even said that

[@eddiecanejr2921]

Rightfully so it was BS

[@moloperams]

@@eddiecanejr2921 do you disagree with Jay-Z rankings, top 10 or the overall list?

[@rodericksutton2983]

@@moloperams Corny comment

[@vr4892]

Ya think!

[@cwm662]

Didn't he say he was better than Eminem?

[@edubb1luv100]

He did say it & he is

[@jamestaylor7119]

Eminem aint even in my top 100,,the great white hope,,highly overrated...

[@PrimordialKamenwati]

Eminem is nobody this isn’t vlad tv lil bro this a black channel

[@timmy841212]

But he is. Em not even in the top 10 of the greatest rappers list.

[@datniggaeazye.5968]

@@jamestaylor7119 ur top 100 means nothing

[@grannysbag9266]

All the people who never sold dope going to side with 2pac. truthfully Pac can't get with BIG or Jay

[@313DMan1]

Wat does that gotta do wit anything. I kno sum dope dealers that fuck wit pac shit more

[@WSNight-]

cap

[@Papi_Oso]

I agree with Melle Mel to a certain extent. Rapping and flow wise Biggie and Jay-Z are better than Pac.. BUT until this this day, no rapper that came before or after, has touch my heart lyrically like Pac has. Pac had the talent to put words together that grabbed you emotionally and poetically. He was basically the rap version of Shakespeare.

[@johannessogoromo4910]

Perfectly said. Pac's wasn't a rapper. He was a poet.

[@Papi_Oso]

@@johannessogoromo4910 💯!!