1988 Honda 250x Quad. Can It Be Saved?

[@2vintage]

Has anyone ever has this problem with a quad before? I've never seen this happen... Please SUBSCRIBE and LIKE the video if you enjoyed! It really helps me out a lot! Check out my Instagram: 2_vintage_ Thank you for the support!

[@randytorres5150]

U got this joe....

[@ryanhill97]

I think that’s my dads old quad, it looked exactly like that and it’s the same year.

[@kylesatathite9055]

Hey where's the lock nut for the adjustment screw?

[@ThatOneGuyIsaac]

You can do it Joe

[@joshg.1014]

I’d recommended putting a cam in it while your doing all that....the $30 Amazon one works good. It’s not going to run the best with that cam or rocker arms

[@Hanky_Bannist8r]

Crazy, it was running on 3 valves and a hole in the head. That's a testament to an old honda they're literally bulletproof.

[@2vintage]

Yeah it's insane

[@DR.P3RKY]

I bought a non running 400ex. I got it started, but the engine sounded like a bucket of bolts. I pulled the valve cover and the camshaft was broken if half! The thing started, idled, and revved with only two valves!

[@kiddschramke2956]

Are you selling and quads right now ?

[@2vintage]

@@DR.P3RKY lol that's awesome

[@1991enduro]

I thought and was gonna comment that

[@rhiantaylor3446]

I have huge respect for JB Weld but, for me, that quad deserves a replacement head, cam and followers/rockers.

[@dustinh4175]

He dosen't know what kinda gem he actually has. In 15 years it'll be worth a new truck

[@jasonolmsted4147]

Yes definitely I agree The cam and rockers look toasted big time replace it all

[@Brensta18]

He doesn’t want to put more money into it, he wants to make the most money back from it flipping it

[@Davido50]

Yes it does. Order the proper parts son!

[@wouldyouglowme4235]

I woulda used duck tape on this one

[@josephlane9904]

My 91 250x had to be completely torn down and built cause the cam chain dropped down into the clutch Assembly and wrapped around the clutch and twisted it out of place. There was a massive hole in the cylinder sleeve from rust, bent pistons and no gaskets. Most stressful project ever cause i kept finding shit that was broken but it runs now and ive done alot of work to it for it to now go 86 on a downhill stretch and pop wheelies in 2nd. Keep it dude your gonna love it.

[@angelniebla7833]

Nice quad man, I have basically the same quad but mine is an 87. Mines in pretty good condition no rust or anything. I've had mine for 3-4 years and haven't had any problems. Runs strong and doesn't smoke one bit. I love it

[@auldc74]

I have an 87 I bought a couple months ago from the original owner. That thing is a blast! Takes me back to when I was a kid. 😂

[@michaeltrower6792]

My friend's mom bought him a new one back in 88 we had a blast romping on that thing lol

[@jonnyonwheels]

Hey Joe, not sure if anyone ever told you this but old bolts (especially going into aluminum) can really use a good smack with a hammer to shock them loose before you try turning them. On the fasteners that Honda uses that have a washer built-into the head it’s super easy to put a socket or socket and extension on there and just smack it with a hammer a couple times, they’ll for sure come out easier. This method works well for crusty carb bowl screws too! Hope this helps.👍🏼

[@charliebriggsii4732]

Check crankcase for locknut on valve adjuster.

[@jessenorris8981]

Those are good old 4 wheelers man I had an 87 250x growin up and an 01 300ex both good old 4 wheelers for in the woods

[@Chris_123rie]

Best most reliable quads ever! Great vid bro!

[@daffyduck9901]

Yeah you can tell. 😂😂😂

[@lucidtaps3327]

Just got one of these, watch your videos all the time and glad I found this one cycling back through. Great work

[@Jerry-dk8se]

I'd just get a new camshaft, too. If the cam lobes had that kind of damage, I'm pretty sure that the damage took out the heat treatment of the lobe surfaces. You could get a little more aggressive camshaft to replace it 😉 You should get a sponsorship from J-B Weld and W-D 40! 😂🤣

[@joemartin6776]

I had a 1987 Honda Fourtrax 250X was I was young. I loved it!

[@riprodfarmer5530]

i have no clue what problem it is! keep riping 2vintage

[@nickpierce4228]

Honda is king.glad to finally see a real quad on this channel

[@hardpackmoto]

I have a 1994 trx300ex and I'm currently working on it again because the bearing opposite of the cam gear is completely dead so now I'm on a hunt to find the last 2 ball bearings that likely fell into the crank/clutch. I found 8/10 balls but idk where I'll find the last two. I love seeing a 250x basically the same motor as the 300ex just small difference between them. Great video 2V!👍

[@hardpackmoto]

Btw I drained the oil and didn't find the last two. The only reason i found the first 8 is because they were stuck in the oil underneath the valve cover 😂. Hey 2vintage I'd probably get a new head because its liable to fail again with jb weld.

[@jorgeporfil9028]

The guru is back right on let's do this

[@chrisatc627]

That valve cover doesn’t use a gasket, it’s Honda bond from the factory

[@_-gh0st-_]

Was wondering about that... Thanks... Second time today I've heard it

[@skyb8687]

Hey joe,next time you have a Crack in metal or plastic, drill a hole at the point where the Crack ends so it can't keep cracking, also don't be afraid to add some metal shaving and a piece of metal screen to the repair

[@feltonseigler7578]

That was exactly what I was think too!

[@M.TTT.]

or tig weld

[@skyb8687]

@@M.TTT. Joe doesn't weld..he's a j.b welder...which is fine.yeah ideally you wanna bubble gum it back with a weld then dremmel but not every one can access a welder.just saying what personaly worked for me.

[@skyb8687]

@@feltonseigler7578 yeah my grandpa taught me that one.

[@M.TTT.]

@@skyb8687 that's a good tip with the wire mesh though, I'd forgotten about it, may need it later.

[@302mustanggt8]

Can you keep your eye out for a kfx450r i saw a another comment on this video theres demand! Love the kx125 on the channel

[@luismiguelinsfran7295]

I love your vintage videos you have a pretty good version of the slingshot I like is a beast greetings from Paraguay 🇵🇾

[@PewsNPullStarts]

Man just get a new head and cams . There is no point in doing all that work just to have to do it all over again when it fails. If you didn’t have time to do it right the first time are you gonna have time to fix it once it breaks again. Other than that love the videos and it’s nice to find a fellow Sconnie that puts out videos I like

[@benmiller5015]

That's the next guys problem cuz he's most likely gonna flip this quad which isn't really fair to the next guy but Joe is in the flippin business n to maximize profits he's gotta keep the repair cost low

[@PewsNPullStarts]

@@benmiller5015 if enough people complain about it maybe and flipping business or not it’s still scuzzy

[@benmiller5015]

@@PewsNPullStarts I agree n it's no way to do business. Perhaps he is planning to fix it right before selling it or like you said if enough people bring it up he'll fix it right. I did notice on this one he didn't show getting it or what he paid for it which is out of character for Joe so who knows

[@PewsNPullStarts]

@@benmiller5015 I didn’t even notice till you mention you’re right. I’ve been binge watching him as of late cause he’s from Wisconsin like I am and most of the videos do show it so I wonder what is up

[@benmiller5015]

@@PewsNPullStarts not sure but howdy from the other side of the lake lol I'm in michigan

[@casalin1801]

The valve cover doesnt go with a gasket, honda recommends only to put sealer ;)

[@2vintage]

good to know!

[@The_Home_Pros]

Awesome quad same as the 300ex

[@N3LP]

I love all your videos before I work on few quads and dirtbike I have always watch your videos I get my mindset into working on mine keep up the great work on the videos have a great day 😁

[@bigcaputo09]

Where's the jam nut for the valve adjustment screw?

[@chrisj2004]

I bet it fell off and is in the bottom end about now.

[@peteraitken6494]

Gee that heads cryin it's eyes out joe I'm sure you will wipe away its tears and put a smile back on its face lol 😉 Kidding aside good quad I'm sure you will fix it

[@zook_291]

I used to have a 95 300EX that I would hold wide open in the snow.

[@daffyduck9901]

Bro you live on the edge!

[@markmartin01]

JB weld will be fine, that's just the oil galley for the cam. The rockers are toast from not being oiled since it was running out the hole in the galley. The nut for that missing rocker tip is in the bottom of the case BTW. Probably sitting on top of the screen at the bottom of the motor on the clutch side. I'd pull the clutch side case and grab that nut before it sticks between the crank gear and driven gear.

[@2024Trump_fan]

I bet anyone that saw this video wouldn't want to buy anything from him!🙈

[@smokeyou812]

Haven't seen one of those in ages. I almost bought one new when I was 16.

[@lukecombs5242]

Cams are cheap cheap for these atvs on eBay should be able to source that head out pretty cheap as well if you lived close to Kentucky I’d give you a head for it that just needs the valves lapped the 300ex has the same top end in case you run across the head off one the bottom ends are different with the 300ex having a longer crank rod and electric start but all top end parts are the same even the timing chain speaking of which I would go ahead and replace the timing chain it’s more than likely stretched the 300ex piston is the same as well and will interchange I own a beautiful 87 first year for the trx250x I’m about to do a wiseco top end and d.I.d silent cam chain in I think I’ll just bore it 0.040 over these engines can be bored 80 over making it a 288 big bore hell of a strong little motor and bulletproof as well I’ve been waiting for this video for a week joe lol soon as I spotted it in the background I was like hell yeah brother 🤙🏻🤙🏻excited for you to ride this beast.

[@Vazerin]

I got a 1987 TRX250X, all OEM parts since 87, thing still runs with no issues, haven't even taken the engine apart yet and it still works well, sadly though I had to buy new rims and tires as the tires are literally melted to the OEM rims, im hoping to get the tired of the rear rims so I can put paddle tires on them but we'll see how that goes

[@m8fusion712]

250x's are pretty cool quads, awesome video

[@davehouston1410]

That is a thumper bro !! Look at that compression !!

[@benshore7357]

Someone had it apart before and didn’t put it back together very well.

[@jaydenrobertson5061]

Why would you JB weld the head? Wouldn't it just be better to get a new one? Also I have been working on a 1998 honda trx300ex sportrax for a while and they can be a pain.

[@2vintage]

New ones are around $250 to $300. It would be better to get a new one. This is just to see if it will work. If it fails a new one will be going on.

[@jaydenrobertson5061]

@@2vintage that makes sense

[@27Zangle]

The 250x is perhaps my favorite quad from childhood. I'd love to find one that runs and rebuild it. Edit: That thing was abused and lived a hard life with probably just a handful of oil changes. Wow!

[@Stratos53100]

Abused yeah, somebody ran the sh--- out of it.....

[@ThatOneGuyIsaac]

Yea lol

[@codywit8491]

Older bikes and quads never had gaskets on the too end, doesnt hurt to make one and throw in in tho🤘🏻

[@tylerdarnell921]

This is the shit that pisses me off when I buy something and find out someone did some hack shit like this.

[@frankhouser3355]

That's Joe for you. Biggest hack ever.

[@xjm.fitness]

youre getting so many good machines ur channel is sick

[@daffyduck9901]

🤧

[@playboihunty4431]

I love these quads stupid reliable and a lot of fun

[@marcelcanuck]

the es 250 doesn't have a gasket on the top head/cam cover usually

[@myguitaryourface5160]

I wonder if you can get that welded and then dremel it down

[@The_Home_Pros]

I have a complete gasket kit for this machine I’d send it your way if u want

[@larrywarner9314]

I'd replace that camshaft

[@30-06inthesticks]

Me and My Dad Love your videos. Do you advertise if you are selling any of these projects?

[@kaw1997]

when using J B weld some times you can use a piece of screen or drywall mesh to add strength to it i have done this trick several times works great on Plastic

[@dannyhoughton3547]

Question is wheres the locking nut of the adjuster gone ???

[@ajb6854]

Hi the nut on the adjustment screw is missing for that value

[@Coolman-yg9mj]

Keep up the good work man👍❤

[@docb8270]

Joe, where did the locking nut for the valve adjuster go?

[@LukasMorris05]

I have that same quad and tires! Those things rip!

[@daffyduck9901]

Those things are dogs dude

[@johnscovel3170]

the head is cracked clown

[@RpmAuto]

I thought maybe oil filter is clogged and oil backing up but no you got more problems than that. I heard it was noisy when it was running. I had yamaha warrior that valve tappet was missing. No idea where it went. So jb weld time lol.

[@gabewest305]

I don’t think gas and oil are supposed be leaking from the spark plug hole

[@2vintage]

Nope Don't think so lol

[@gabewest305]

@@2vintage do you think you do a video on a 250 ex trx there nice quads preferably a 2001

[@andrewderrick6907]

Any one else Learn every thing they know abt quads an bikes from this guy

[@daffyduck9901]

Not a chance

[@markjeepingful]

Never had that happen on my 1992 250X, I bought mine brandnew kept it for 12 hard riding years. By the way on my 92 never press thumb throttle while kick start it, it's got self prime fuel. I dont know about 88 though.

[@M.TTT.]

Pretty cool, hopefully I can score a good deal on a race quad someday, I really wanna learn to jump em.

[@Bri-tg6xr]

Low temp aluminum welding rod fix? But I'd def get a new cam and rockers. Prob get it all in a package deal used anyways. Be cool to see how long jb weld lasts, what's it's melting point?

[@morgancure1604]

who does all your mechanic work on the bikes you get?

[@kernelbadness]

On the floor again, just can't wait to be on the floor again...

[@RpmAuto]

Floor has more space to work. Lol. His back and knees Is going to have problems in the long run. I know from experience.

[@M.TTT.]

one of the lift tables is a couple thousand, but yeah, a back and knees will cost more in the long run. I may try to build some sort of platform/lift table out of wood and steel.

[@kernelbadness]

You can build a bench out of scrap wood for next to nothing with some LED lights...

[@daffyduck9901]

@@kernelbadness he's got a bench, some guys just don't get it.🤪

[@larrywarner9314]

There's no way I'd reuse that cylinder head

[@2strokeunlimited2.06]

Well good thing its not yours

[@Dirtbike-yt6kg]

I own one of these I have a 89 frame and a 87 motor it’s cool to see another one

[@michaeltrower6792]

Get some Hondabond 4 for the top cover works way better than silicone gasket maker should be able to find a Used head no problem

[@lukecombs5242]

I’ve had great luck with ultra black silicone never had a leak after using it. You are just buying the name it’s nothing more than silicone man.

[@michaeltrower6792]

@@lukecombs5242 no you don't know what you're talking about it's not just like silicone I use the Ultra black to its not the same Hondabond 4 is much more chemical resistant and seals much better and it is cheaper than Ultra black should know what you are talking before you talk sheet

[@chrisj2004]

@@michaeltrower6792 I can't seem to find HondaBond in my area. Where is the best place online to order it from?

[@michaeltrower6792]

@@chrisj2004 rocky mountain ATV mc

[@supertedogpriken]

Hey 2 vintage. Please explain how strippped out sparkplug threads could make a oil mess like you have there??? Are you thinking the oil comes from inside the head or?? Just please explain what you are thinking???

[@2vintage]

Thinking maybe oil was leaking through the valves.

[@supertedogpriken]

@@2vintage Did you really think that much oil could come from a running engine?

[@2vintage]

@@supertedogpriken yeah if it was completely messed up in there.

[@M.TTT.]

@@supertedogpriken anythings possible on a Honda lol

[@daffyduck9901]

@@supertedogpriken you're absolutely right that motor wouldn't even run if that much oil was coming out of the cylinder. This guy doesn't know shitt

[@benwilsons2173]

Bro you are so damn knowledgeable!!! I sincerely appreciate your content, this inspires me to learn more

[@2thehook773]

That cam Is wiped out! Replace it man. It's so far out of spec that its not even funny.

[@kinglyfiumpy8068]

You should fix a trx300ex

[@hardpackmoto]

Yes they are so awesome

[@smokeyou812]

Well usually bulletproof...this one wasn't even screwproof. Glad to see ya still have the KX prybars tho. Lol

[@dancando6391]

I think you are doing the right repair. No throwing a lot of money at it. You can always buy a replacement head or cam / rockers at a later time. I REALLY dont think that chunk of aluminum from the head ended up in the block. Im betting it rattled out from behind the spark plug shortly after it happened.

[@daffyduck9901]

He never puts money towards anything. He pretty much just hacks his way through everything he gets.

[@dancando6391]

@@daffyduck9901 Name of the game. Least amount of money into it. Most amount of money out of it. lol. Granted there are times where you cant shortcut and you gotta just spend that money.

[@daffyduck9901]

@@dancando6391 You Don't Know Jack

[@dancando6391]

@@daffyduck9901 really wanna start a verbal fight on a youtube video comment? Idk man. It might be entertaining.

[@daffyduck9901]

@@dancando6391 sure why not

[@mysteryman2852]

Man had a lot of trust in jb weld lots of trust

[@franchesscolin-_-1141]

For the tires get some soapy water and put it between the rip lip and tire and just pump it up , it’ll seal itself and will stop the leaks , when you start to see bubbles that’s where the leak is get a hammer and hit the tire where it’s leaking and it’ll seal up on its own

[@bryceswan7936]

Why aren't you changing the valve seals while your in there thats where the oil is coming from on the valves?

[@daffyduck9901]

He's a hacker he doesn't really fix anything he just patches stuff together cheaply

[@lion3920]

Very nice bro 👌 Huge support from Macedonia

[@sandmanbub]

I'd be searching for the aluminum piece that's missing and hiding somewhere in the engine waiting to do more damage as well as the valve adjuster lock nut which is missing. That cam lobe might have been ground down and is no longer good. Needs to be measured. If it's ground down past the hardened friction area of the lobe, the remaining soft metal will wear down very rapidly. Might be able to find a used head with the valve train in it. It's still worth repairing. Find that steel valve adjuster lock nut and the missing aluminum from the head and prevent any further damage.

[@mattdogg02]

Joe, you got too many projects going on, I can’t keep track of what all you got and where it is in the state of repair, you should do a video covering the last 10 or so and where they are or what you did with them

[@ni_wink84]

@2vintage the part number for 85, cr250 crank case right cover is 11340-ks7-000, Malcolm smith motorsports in California, call them to se if part is available

[@gerryh1746]

Where is the locking nut from the valve adjusting screw...?

[@tyler.redpath]

when do we get to see the kx125 again ?

[@2vintage]

Very soon!

[@c0munguyforcaz]

I have those exact same gloves, bought them at a local China store

[@caseygillis5347]

Also the rockers have flatten out.

[@Oyvind88]

Great squad same age like me and great video😃👍

[@hardpackmoto]

Do a trx300ex next

[@apriliacross3083]

The handelbars are back

[@patrickdavis9796]

you need to start using the stuff called marine tex it mixes like jb weld but it is harder and you can machine it and it sticks to metal better if you are going to full holes that is what you should use

[@charliebriggsii4732]

I am confident your repair will be good nice job. Joe, also look for aluminum head pieces. It could have come out spark plug area, but just to be sure. It would cause serious problems on tranny and/or clutch gears. Good luck!!

[@Orbacron]

You got this, no pressure or excessive heat on repair, it should hold👌 I've repaired cracked oil pans with this stuff before, and no leaks.. You could probably get away with a custom gasket cut out from from cereal box with form a gasket both sides, and only have to purchase the rocker adjustment screw. Put Lucas oil stabilizer and rotella 15/40 triple protection in it, done

[@2vintageDeamonFan]

Another banger upload from joee!!

[@aricwoods5239]

Another awesome video man keep up the great videos the trx 250x is one off the best quads ever made lol if u ever want to Sale it I want it lol I have two extra motors for it

[@enjoythesho1992]

Oh you lucky dog what a beautiful machine a true classic

[@GameMen10000]

I'm pretty sure that the hole lead into an oil gallery, which is now blocked with a piece of cardboard...?

[@jonbaggarly6969]

check crankcase vent tube mine come loose on my motorcycle and made a slippery ride lol

[@amaurymachetes872]

Man u r awesome, love your videos 👊👊👊👊👍👍👍👍👍

[@Stuckin330]

Lil late to comment but u need to watch doing sumthing like this there’s oil passages that run threw the head an if u got jb weled in one we’re that hole was you can trash your top end . I kno on my z 400 an 400ex had oil ports that ran threw the head for lubricant

[@myguitaryourface5160]

250x & 300ex have no valve cover gasket,way to go honda

[@lifeinaday89]

2v timee! Looks like you're gonna have a fun project lol

[@timlogan8603]

Never heard or seen one before.looks like a 300ex at first glance

[@hardpackmoto]

I have a 300ex and by the looks of it the motor is almost exactly the same in the video from what i worked on.

[@rigguyjt]

I would have replaced cam and rockers. I’m sort of ok with the JB weld but I still think a new head was called for here. Hope it doesn’t leak. But that can and those rockers are shot.

[@rigguyjt]

My big thumbs again lol. “Cam”