3 AMD Threadripper Pro WRX80 Workstation Motherboards!

Are You ready to talk about Threadripper Pro WRX80 Motherboards beyond a HEDT? We now have 3 Listed for Review. Expected March 2021!
1.) AMD's Ryzen Threadripper Pro CPUs
wccftech.com/amds-ryzen-threa...
2.) Supermicro M12SWA-TF
www.supermicro.com/en/product...
3.) A+ SuperWorkstation 5014A-TT (Complete System Only)
www.supermicro.com/en/Aplus/s...
4.) ASUS WS WRX80E-SAGE SE WIFI + Hyper Quad M.2 Card
www.asus.com/Motherboards-Com...
5.) Gigabyte WRX80-SU8-IPMI (rev. 1.0) + Aorus M.2 Card + Titan Ridge Thunderbolt 3 card
www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/...
6.) Lenovo ThinkStation P620 AMD Threadripper Pro Workstation
www.lenovo.com/us/en/thinksta...
7.) AMD Ryzen Threadripper PRO 3000WX | Workstation Processors
www.amd.com/en/processors/ryz...
8.) AMD Ryzen Threadripper PRO - Workstation Processors
www.amd.com/en/processors/wor...
1-26-2021 Update: AMD Threadripper Pro CPU Prices Announced! Whew! Sticker Shock!
www.tomshardware.com/news/amd...
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[@BuildOrBuy]

*1-30-2021 Update:* Now we have a price point for the ASUS WRX80 Motherboard... Asus' WRX80 Motherboard for AMD's Threadripper Pro Is Surprisingly Cheap www.tomshardware.com/news/asus-wrx80-motherboard-for-amds-threadripper-pro-is-surprisingly-cheap

[@donjon7554]

Thank You for the update Gill. This shows again that You care about Your Viewers unlike most of other KZbinrs.

[@BuildOrBuy]

Hi@@donjon7554, Absolutely! Amazing how many don't respond to Comments or Pleas for help. If a Viewer takes the time to Watch and Comment, that's just respect to respond. We're here to help and share what we know. We learn together!

[@donjon7554]

@@BuildOrBuy That's my point. That's how I feel about it. I agree with You again. We think very much alike.

[@BuildOrBuy]

Hi@@donjon7554, Good point! Mutual admiration society! I Love my Subscribers!

[@donjon7554]

@@BuildOrBuy if any other KZbinr wrote that I wouldn't believe him. Your actions in your videos speak louder than words. Your dedication to interact with Us and Your help in the comments shows that You truly love Us.

[@xmj6830]

That’s monumental ! Thanks Gill, cannot wait to see one of your build on such platform! Thanks for your hard work and research for the community. Cheers

[@BuildOrBuy]

Hi Maurice James, Exciting Technology! Thank You! Appreciate Your Comments! Amazing what we've learned. Never a dull moment! As of today - 1-30-2021 - Now we have a price point for the ASUS WRX80 Motherboard... Asus' WRX80 Motherboard for AMD's Threadripper Pro Is Surprisingly Cheap www.tomshardware.com/news/asus-wrx80-motherboard-for-amds-threadripper-pro-is-surprisingly-cheap We have to get through some of the other Technology of past Builds, quickly!

[@donjon7554]

I love that You explain the resource management stuff and remember to bring up the basics cause it's confusing nowadays. Thanks!

[@BuildOrBuy]

Hi Don Jon, Glad You noticed! Those details really matter when Planning out a System. BTW: Are You Feeling better today, I hope!?!

[@donjon7554]

@@BuildOrBuy yes I am. Thanks for asking

[@BuildOrBuy]

Hi@@donjon7554, Outstanding! A little sleep always helps!

[@___Zack___]

There's something very likeable and wholesome about this channel. Good stuff, thank you

[@BuildOrBuy]

Hi C5H5NiNO, Nice to meet You! Welcome! Thank You for Your Comments! Here to help! Appreciate Your Support!

[@Zaleskee]

....another amazing video full of knowledge!, Thank You very much!.

[@BuildOrBuy]

Hi Tomasz, Excellent! We're Providing Solutions and Solving Problems! This is the Platform of choice for a Balanced Purpose Built Computer! Appreciate Your Comments!

[@asdf51501]

I like your delivery style. Good video.

[@BuildOrBuy]

Hi John Dell, Thank You for Your Comments! I'm honored! Much Appreciated!

[@BuildOrBuy]

*1-26-2021 Update:* AMD Threadripper Pro CPU Prices Announced! Whew! Sticker Shock! www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-threadripper-pro-retail-pricing-dollar6000-for-64-cores-dollar3000-for-32-cores

[@maxhughes5687]

Thanks for the link.

[@BuildOrBuy]

Hi@@maxhughes5687, Yes! We'll keep this Updated until prudent for another Threadripper Pro WRX80 Video!

[@maxhughes5687]

I was happy with the price of the 3955 16 core cpu. My first gen 8 core 1900X was $550 list. $1150 list for twice cores, twice the cpu lanes and twice the memory channels is terrific. If your coming from a 16 core Ryzen cpu, that's $350 extra for 5X the cpu lanes and 4X the memory channels. :)

[@BuildOrBuy]

Hi@@maxhughes5687, Excellent point and Perspective. The AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3970X 32-Core, 64-Thread was $1925 when we Built the TRX40. And now the Threadripper Pro 3975WX for WRX80 is only $750 more. Good to compare! Notice the article updated to reflect only 3 CPUs from original of 4 CPUs. Thanks for that perspective.

[@niwayantucson1400]

Great information . Thank you for sharing my friend.

[@BuildOrBuy]

Hi Ni Wayan Tucson, Thank You! Appreciate Your Comments! Thanks for Watching! Stay tuned!

[@niwayantucson1400]

@@BuildOrBuy you're welcome. Will do thank you my friend.

[@erakesh1]

Fantastic presentation. Steady pace and right to the point. Very informative. Looking forward to knowing more on the TRPros. Does it support virtualisation like the EPYCs?

[@BuildOrBuy]

Hi Rakesh Eligapalli, Thank You! Appreciate Your Comments! Yes! Appears to be more like Threadripper. Less like EPYC. For example, AMD Instinct is only Supported right now on AMD EPYC as far as we can tell. www.amd.com/en/processors/epyc-tools www.amd.com/en/graphics/servers-radeon-instinct-mi Until we know more, we can only speculate! AMD is being very tight lipped! Stay tuned!

[@OLDUSAFMedic]

I wanted to thank you for all your answers about the Quad 4 card. I wanted this to work soooo bad in my B550 but there was no way. Finally, Lenovo had a sale on it's Thinkstation P620 down to $1469 and I was able to order one.

[@BuildOrBuy]

Hello OLDUSAFMedic, Indubitably! Not many understand the delineation of Specifications! Our Goal is to keep it Simple and Make it Work! Outstanding! Congrats on Your Decision and Acquisition!

[@Thaumazo]

Granted these mobos will be in the 1K price range. There's still a place for trx40 but my inner nerd wants these wrx mobos

[@BuildOrBuy]

Hi Thaumazo, Absolutely Agree! Love the TRX40 but the WRX80, Definitely! This is an extraordinary time to be Building a Computer! I don't think We've ever been as excited about a Platform as this one to Geek out on! Stay tuned!

[@maxhughes5687]

Threadripper PRO 3955WX they're up on newegg. The asus board too. 1150/1000 bucks. No reviews I could find on utube.

[@BuildOrBuy]

Hi@@maxhughes5687, Yes! Thank You! First the 1st CPU 3955WX, then the ASUS followed by SuperMicro WRX80 Motherboards then the other 2 CPUs, 3975WX and 3995WX, showed up! All on NewEgg! Too new! Apparently no one had advanced access to do a Review. History in the making! www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=amd+ryzen+threadripper+pro

[@maxhughes5687]

@@BuildOrBuy They did beat Intel's March 15th launch date. hahahaha IDK is the new 11th gen still just 20 cpu lanes?

[@BuildOrBuy]

Hi@@maxhughes5687, Unreal as opposed to 128 PCIe Lanes? Wow! Good point.

[@cuzzinbpoty6069]

Nice can't wait for the Asus pro wrx80E sage se wifi it the best solution for treadripper pro

[@BuildOrBuy]

Hi Free Money, Ditto! TRX80 is suppose to be released in March and here we are waiting on pins and needles!

[@Khryptic]

Hi thanks for the video pal. Quick question, do you know if the gigabyte wrx80 su8 impi would be compatible with corsair vengeance lpx 3200mhz DDR4 ram? Thanks you

[@BuildOrBuy]

Hi Khryptic, Welcome! It should but We don't know that for a fact. Suggest Contacting Corsair and ask for those specific Platform Motherboard Brand and Model timings if tweaking is required. Corsair Vengeance has been Our Go To RAM ever since getting into DDR4. However the WRX80 is a different animal. It's going to take time to work through this new technology with Bios Updates as We're now seeing. Hope that helps! Success on Your Build! Which CPU did You get?

[@Khryptic]

@@BuildOrBuy Thanks buddy appreciate your detailed and quick reply. Managed to get a reply from Gigabyte who advised the Vengeance 3200mhz 'should' be ok haha, well have to see about that. Ended up with the Threadripper pro 3975WX. I just hope to god it works because I've spent an awful lot on parts and don't want to butcher what I'm hoping will be my ultimate content production machine!

[@maxhughes5687]

Thanks Gill. That's good news.

[@BuildOrBuy]

Hi Max, Yes! Absolutely! Thanks for Watching!

[@shannonbailey8515]

Hey, where you interested in seeing the Threadripper build I was talking about a few months ago, because if it was you... I have it posted on this channel....

[@BuildOrBuy]

Hi@@shannonbailey8515, Thanks! I'll come take a look! Congrats!

[@shannonbailey8515]

Yeah I build the thing back in December, but I just now got around to uploading the videos.... pulled a back muscle, so I was able to get some time to upload the videos.... I had to literally customize the NZXT Case as the E-ATX Motherboard simply wouldn't fit properly without doing so.... Couldn't mount the PSU as I would have preferred either.... I don't know if I can get 8 sticks of RAM with this cooler though... I might would need to find some smaller RAM sticks if I were to add anymore RAM.... The Board was just too long, so I had to remove the PSU shroud, or cover to allow for it to mount up.... as well as slid the PSU closer to the glass.... so I could use the bottom of the Motherboard...lol... So, if anyone asks.... The TRX40 Designare Motherboard won't fit, in this case, without some modifications.... with the modifications, everything seem to fit fine otherwise...

[@maxhughes5687]

@@shannonbailey8515 I watched the first six. Thanks. A good first time E-ATX/LX-ATX/TR/tower case/AIO build video.

[@maxhughes5687]

IDK. I keep studying the manual. It's not 3 8pin eps cables. It's 2 8pin EPS cables and one PCIe 8 pin cable. Plus 2 6 pin PCIe cables in the bottom. So I do have all the cables I need on a Thor 1200P. Thanks Gill that link to Asus web pages really helped. Whoopy!

[@BuildOrBuy]

Hi Max, Perfect! Absolutely. Glad You checked that out.I was just looking at Connectors on Power Supply. Also depends upon which RTX 3090. Helps to have another pair of eyes on this. Anything can change until products are shipping. Glad this works! Really nice Power Supply! Interesting to note, the Lenovo P620 Workstation only has a 1,000 watt Power Supply in all 3 configurations which I think should be beefed up for headroom like You're doing.

[@samsonstrike]

thx!

[@BuildOrBuy]

Hi Samson Strike, Welcome! Thanks for Watching! Which one did You choose?

[@samsonstrike]

@@BuildOrBuy Hallo! Im savin for 3955WX system - hopfully some more Mainboards should come... LG

[@BuildOrBuy]

Hi@@samsonstrike, Exciting News! Which one do You have Your eye on? Worth the wait! *AMD Ryzen Threadripper PRO 3955WX 16-core* amzn.to/3imWlft As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. Agreed, WRX80 Motherboards are really in demand!

[@samsonstrike]

@@BuildOrBuy Ill keep it in mind if have the cash ready^^ THX LG

[@BuildOrBuy]

Hi@@samsonstrike, Keep Us Posted on Your Progress!

[@IcaniCorrono]

In my opinion, in such motherboards should be better use a custom water-cooling loop for the two RTX 3090 (see for example the corsair water block). Not only for heat reason (it is better cool down 640W+ with proper radiators than with fans inside the case), but also because using the water block the two GPUs needs only 1 slot in terms of space and so, you do not waste 4 PCI-E 4x16 (64 lanes) just for the cooler of the GPUs. I understand that custom loop sounds like "gaming" but in this case allow you to maximize the potential of these motherboards. By the way, great video as always!

[@BuildOrBuy]

Hi IcaniCorrono, For access to those Slots, Absolutely Agree. And those Video cards which require a Water Loop may be easier to obtain. Thank You for pointing that out! We have to consider all the options! Changing one thing, changes everything! Now we just need to get hold of 2 RTX 3090s! Stay tuned!

[@maxhughes5687]

How many power connectors does the 3090 require. The mob is 3 8 pin plus two six pin to the mobo for PCIe lane power draw. that's 5 of the 8 connectors on my 1200Watt P/S. Two for one GPU leaves only one unused on the P/S. TWO 3090's IDK?

[@BuildOrBuy]

Hi@@maxhughes5687, The RTX 3090s We've looked at are all (2) 8-Pin Power Taps. Good point. The Super Flower Leadex Gold 1300W 80 Plus Gold we used on the TRX40 has (11) Power Taps (Universal). We have an EVGA SuperNOVA 220-G3-1000-X1,1000 G3, 80 Plus Gold 1000W that has (4) for Video. What Power Supply are You using?

[@maxhughes5687]

@@BuildOrBuy Asus Thor 1200P has 8 universal, but only 2 8pin cpu cables. 4 6+2 PCIe card cables. :(

[@BuildOrBuy]

Hi@@maxhughes5687, That's troublesome. We need a new class of Power Supplies with more Power Taps. Fascinating! Powerful Supplies right now are almost as scarce as Video cards. Super Flower like we used on the TRX40 would work. Out of stock. Curious. I've sent a message to Super Flower asking about stock. We'll see what they say. Really surprised about the ASUS model You have. Thanks for this Info.

[@shannonbailey8515]

What cases do you think would be good for these motherboards ? I would assume the Thermaltake W100, and W200 cases would be large enough, but I wonder what else would work...? If I were to go for a Threadripper Pro build, I would probably have to go to the 16, or 24 Core CPU, as the budget would be a bit higher.... I do like the idea of having 8 Channels of memory.... I have been noticing that when I am in Premiere Pro, that when my project videos are opening up in the project panel it seems to take longer to load, as well as when opening up the Media Encoder.... I think it may have to do with Adobe software though.... I have had to reboot my system several times because it simply freezes, so much that the mouse icon won't even move.... Media Encoder oftentimes seems to be slow in operating as well, as I will sometimes get the popup window, that the program is not responding... I think it is with the software though.... I have been busy with work, and getting other things taken care of, that I haven't had time to really dive deep into it.... but the 7000mb read, and write speeds should be nearly double the speed as when I was importing files into my projects for editing....with the Samsung Evo 970 Plus drives..... I haven't noticed any high temps, or anything... with the SN850,or Samsung 980Pro drives.... I think I would like for Adobe to work with linux.... Sometimes I think it has to do with Windows.... Now the Xbox bar screen recorder doesn't want to work.... It use to, but somewhere I think microsoft changed some system requirements, that make it geared towards game drivers, and the RTX 3070 Studio driver won't allow for it to...., I tried installing the Game driver to see if that would allow for it to work, but it didn't..... I then later had to reinstall the Studio Driver to work with Premiere...., I have also noticed that Windows seems to now want you to purchase things that you once got for free.... such as opening Apple I phone HEIC. photo files.... Whether that was Apple, or Microsoft, I don't know....I noticed that they seem to want you to buy a file opener for every different codec.... I'm like, " I didn't have to do this before ".... So, I am wondering if it is Just windows... because all of my PC monitoring devices, shows the hardware is working properly.... Also I am trying to get Rendergarden properly installed, and to utilize it with After Effects, but haven't been successful.... Might need some advice, and guidance on how to get that up, and functioning within after effects.... later on....

[@BuildOrBuy]

Hi Shannon, Just now seeing Your message. Never had an email. Good question. Depends. Options. I think that's something we need to discuss further and explore our options. Physically, there's only so far we can go in a Case. Then we have to balance that with Realistic expectations. Then step back a bit and Prioritize the Goals to reach a solution. After working through Slot and Lane assignments on the TRX40, that has me thinking just like You about the WRX80 Build. Considerations & Possibilities. I'm going to work on a Video about that and share my thoughts in an upcoming video. Very good points. Now the next point, Adobe. Agreed. That needs an Upgrade for certain. Very Annoying. And of the charts we've seen from AMD for Resellers, the number 1 app that benefits the most from a WRX80 Build is Adobe, Specifically After Effects. Go figure. There's a bug with Windows Xbox bar screen recorder. Try using Bandicam. Costs but it works and is bullet proof! So is their cutter, Bandicut. For quick and dirty video cuts. Amazing tools. Yes, You only want to use the Studio Driver! Stability! Fix one thing, break something else! Thank You Microsoft! How's everything running now? Sorry we did not see Your message sooner!

[@littledog5404]

Can I put two OWC 64TB Accelsior 8M2 Eight NVMe M.2 to PCle Cards on my WCR80 motherboard

[@BuildOrBuy]

Hi Litteldog 540, Welcome! Great Question! Which WRX80? You should be able to install 4 of those. This will be a CPU Based RAID if that's the Plan. You might want to go with a GPU Based RAID. We have a Video on that. I'll get You a link! On Smartphone right now! That's a Self Bifurcated card. Details on those are more about Marketing than Details We need for evaluation of their Technology. Not fond of the SoftRAID they want to Upsell. Everything else looks solid on the Hardware. Also don't know about using as a Bootable Device if that matters. For a Self Bifurcated card to be Bootable would require an Onboard Bios that would Append the Motherboard Bios like a Highpoint card. This kind of reminds Us of the Liqid Honey Badger. www.liqid.com/products/liqid-elements/element-lqd4500-pcie-aic-ssd But that's more for Server due to Cooling Requirements than a WRX80 Workstation. You're on the right path! How are You using them? Rendering?

[@danielsnyder2288]

So my AMD 3955wx arrives Friday bit still no motherboards available?

[@BuildOrBuy]

Hi Daniel, Yes! ASUS and SuperMicro on NewEgg! Nothing on Gigabyte. Very odd. Gigabyte may be having Bios issues. www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=WRX80

[@victormedina2269]

Good summary! These mobo's are probably going to be a little pricey. Its great that the Asus board has 7 PCI slots but if we add two graphics cards it will take up 4 of these slots leaving only 3. Also, will all of the PCI slots be active if three M.2 are installed? On previous boards the PCI 6 slot would be turned off when M.2 was installed was active...

[@BuildOrBuy]

Hi Victor Medina, Thank You for Your Comments! Agreed! Workstation Motherboards! If We add 3 RTX3090s, 3 Slot cards, that leaves only 1 Slot unless We can get 2 RTX 3090s, 2 Slot cards. No shared PCIe Resources! 128 PCIe Lanes. Changing 1 thing, changes everything! We have to consider all options to get the complete objective implemented. I think it's interesting we're not seeing 4 NVMe M.2 Drives on the Motherboard which means whether 2 or 3, they are through the CPU and not through the Chipset. We need more information! Stay tuned!

[@NarekAvetisyan]

Can't you connect 7 RTX 3090 cards on the Asus, if you use PCIe 4.0 Riser cables?

[@BuildOrBuy]

Hi Narek, Like this? LOUQE Cobalt RC260 Twinax Gen4+ PCI-e 4.0 Riser Cable amzn.to/3qGpaVF Theoretically, absolutely. We're working on testing one of those extension cables but not for Video yet. Can't recommend what we have not tried. In time, we'll have more options. Besides, we have not been asked about this yet, until now. We're addressing Subscribers questions. And so far the questions have been about installing 2 RTX 3090s by Data Scientists who have or are contemplating a Lenovo ThinkStation P620 vs Building their own WRX80 Workstation. This is our 1st mining question. Our focus is on Content Creation. Thank You for Your Question.

[@maxhughes5687]

Seven gpus with EK water blocks would work because you're still single slot width on all seven. RTX 3090 (I think) has DDR6X ram on the back of the pcb. We may get Water blocks that cover the front and back, but I doubt they will be a single slot solution. Gill's RTX 3080 is a better bang for the buck. True PRO cards have a lower clock and a blower cooler to keep them cool and single slot width.

[@BuildOrBuy]

Hi@@maxhughes5687, Thank You! Interesting Questions to contemplate. Seems every answer spawns another question. And that too is a good thing! There are always tradeoffs to manage. How we answer at one point in time can change based on what we know is available at same given point in time. And as we continue to progress, changing one thing can change everything! Good to consider our options and do those 'what ifs' before spending a dime! We've learned a lot on the TRX40 that will help Us moving forward on the WRX80! Now if the supply chain can get fixed, all the better! Our options diminish with limited availability.

[@maxhughes5687]

@@BuildOrBuy I'm just very slowly moving towards everything for a WRX80E SAGE.

[@BuildOrBuy]

Hi@@maxhughes5687, Tough call. Depends upon priorities. Too early to tell yet! I can say, knowing what I now know about Thunderbolt 3, PITA! There are better ways to utilize 4 PCIe Lanes with a lot less hassle! So, I hear where You're coming from. Removing Thunderbolt 3, levels the playing field. After all, this is a Workstation!

[@personaldronerepair6141]

Thank you again Build Or Buy !! My inner geek just took a shot of steroids watching this !! My outer geek said " we are going to need a bigger bank account " !! Awesome gear !!

[@BuildOrBuy]

Hi PersonalDroneRepair, Absolutely! This is unfolding very quickly! Another Goal to Achieve! More Clients required! Amazing Technology! This is something to get excited about! Thanks for Watching! Appreciate Your Comments!

[@maxhughes5687]

Time to stock up on everything you want on the PRO. I'm on my 9th month of prep. G Skill/Sabrent/Watercool/EK. A case (E-ATX) or P/S (1200 watts) requires watching a dealer for list, not a scalper fulfilled by Amazon.

[@BuildOrBuy]

Hi@@maxhughes5687, Ever closer to the moment! You're ahead of most everyone else! G.Skill - Samsung B die RAM! Excellent! Agreed! We watch, We wait!

[@maxhughes5687]

@@BuildOrBuy Any advice? Could I use two P/S for a TR? A new 1200+ P/S is expensive. I've got a 800 and a 700watt titanium I won't need if I make my old TR my backup PC and junk my Ryzen first gen.

[@BuildOrBuy]

Hi@@maxhughes5687, Whew! You're not kidding! This is nuts! The Short answer... You're better off getting one new PSU. Keep it Simple! The Longer answer... For a Redundant Power Supply to increase output power, in Parallel, one Power Supply would need to be in Constant Voltage mode. Are You sure You want to get into that? Besides, might void the Warranties. Another idea would be to have an FSP Group ATX Redundant Power Supply. Those however, are only up to 700 watts. Good idea. But that's not what You asked. Changing one thing changes everything! I'll keep looking! We may have to get creative!

[@cuzzinbpoty6069]

The asus is only $999 for this amazing solution

[@BuildOrBuy]

Hi Free Money, Absolutely agree! We'd like to see a few Bios Updates 1st though to shake out any bugs! Definitely price is right for what we get!

[@donjon7554]

Please Anyone do a normal Crystal disk mark 1GB test file on a just 2 GB ram drive. It can be easily done on Windows or Linux. Tell me the results please.

[@BuildOrBuy]

Hi Don Jon, Good idea. However, I would expect on that level similar results as on the TRX40 since both are PCIe 4.0. BTW: PCIe 5.0 is closing in on us!

[@donjon7554]

@@BuildOrBuy You are so much right. Thanks to You I don't have to go to all this ordeal to check that myself. It's so good that me and other People have the opportunity to watch and learn from You, cause You have proven not only to me but I'm sure that to Others as well that You're the best in the business! Thank You for Your work and for Your dedication! You are the best!

[@BuildOrBuy]

Hi@@donjon7554, Good to hear from You! Thank You! It's part of the process. I'm honored! Hope this helps! We have a phenomenal opportunity to Build a Threadripper Pro WorkStation now! History in the making!

[@donjon7554]

@@BuildOrBuy I love Your enthusiasm. This brings back a lot of good memories when as a young boy I told everyone that history is being made when the world switched from IDE ATA 66 to 100 that has given the best performance boost at that time. It was even better than switching from IDE ATA 100 to 133 or to PATA drives that were also both great performance boosters. I've been saying for decades that PCs should have better hard drives cause they are the slowest data senders in the entire PC build. Of course no one understood that simple fact from that day even till now that the speed of a system is determined by the slowest element. Everyone was thinking that only faster CPU will make their PCs faster and they wouldn't listen to me. You are the first person in decades that I met who understands that. We think so much alike. It's such a relief cause I felt so alone in my opinion about the importance of hard drive speed.

[@BuildOrBuy]

Hi@@donjon7554, These are exciting times to be Building a Computer! Remember the Promise PCI PATA cards? Three iterations ATA33, ATA66 then ATA100. All Parallel ATA before SATA. Then SATA I, II and III. And now NVMe! Wow! We did not touch SATA until SATA II. And as long as we had PCI, those Promise PCI PATA cards, were golden beyond their years. Worth every penny! Sill have those! Cutting Edge Dinosaurs now. Yes, a chain is only as strong as the weakest link! Funny, we still have Spinning HDDs and will continue to do so as sizes increase for archive. And now even PCIe 4.0 is not fast enough. Look at the NVLink. NVMe benefits the most from PCIe 4.0 and not Video cards singularly. Dual Video cards can benefit from Linking whether AMD Infinity Fabric or NVIDIA NVLink. Which brings Us to the WRX80, with 128 PCIe Lanes. This is like looking back at IRQs when that was the big deal! Phenomenal!

[@donjon7554]

Ohh by the way. Asus has had a card for a while that allocates all available PCI express 4.0 lanes that are left unused or of minimum use and allocates it to itself by giving m.2 slots on this card the best possible bandwidth. It's for HEDT and for AMD x570 a much needed solution. Check it out if that's true. The cards overview page with text and photos says that it is smart enough to do that. I don't remember it exact model name but just check in search on Asus site for Hyper m.2 gen 4 card or something like that. Asus sells it without the need of buying a motherboard. I'm sorry that I can't remember it's correct model name but I've got some serious problems that I have to attend to. You will All understand when I explain myself to All of You wonderful Subscribers and to You my KZbin Champion.

[@maxhughes5687]

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[@donjon7554]

@@maxhughes5687 yes?

[@donjon7554]

@@maxhughes5687 it was my opinion about the host of BuidOrBuy KZbin channel

[@BuildOrBuy]

Hi Don Jon, I think You are a bit confused. ASUS has 3 M.2 NVMe cards. 2 for PCIe 3.0 and 1 for PCIe 4.0. All are made for HEDTs. All require Motherboard Bifurcation to reallocate PCIe Lanes since each NVMe Drive requires 4 PCIe Lanes. Hence a x16 Slot electrically is required, not just x16 mechanically. Hope You're OK. You may need to rest a bit again. Take care of your self! Appreciate Your Comments!

[@BuildOrBuy]

Hi Max, I think Don Jon needs to rest a bit. He over does it a bit too much, too often.

[@babakkosari3749]

ASUS or GIGABYTE WRX80?

[@BuildOrBuy]

Hi BABAK KOSARI, Welcome! Interesting Question! We can make a case for and against either one. For example, Workstation class Motherboards, ASUS. Included M.2 NVMe x16 Quad AIC, ASUS. Easily accessable Fans, ASUS. Want or need Titan Ridge Thunderbolt 3 with 5 Pin Header? Gigabyte! Price? Gigabyte! Which way are You leaning? Most Users stick with the brand they are familiar with! Great Question! Thanks for Asking! Stay tuned!

[@babakkosari3749]

@@BuildOrBuy Thank you for your response. As far as Thunderbolt is concerned, I am coming from an entirely Mac Os environment so I do have quite a bit of thunderbolt devices. I still use the mac but I have been frustrated with the ecosystem when it comes to power in davinci resove, hence my Threadripper Pro beast setup. The need for thunderbolt is for most part convenience to be able to connect but is not a necessity since I have much faster IO with my Auros m.2 raid and 10Gb network. My question is on quality of the boards and longevity with the said companies. I have not had much experience with either company. The Gigabyte seems great but it lacks wifi and bluetooth and will use up a pci for that purpose. I have a TRX 3090, blackmagic decklink card, wifi card, m.2 raid card and Titan Ridge card which leaves me with two open slots that I cannot add another RTX GPU.

[@BuildOrBuy]

Hi@@babakkosari3749, We're working on next Video and will include Your Question in that! In the mean time, We have used all of the Motherboards made over the years. We have the longest history with Gigabyte. Our 1st ATX Motherboard was Gigabyte. We expect with what You have, You'll be ready to Upgrade in 10 years. The Motherboard will be changed out simply due to the technology. Historically, AMD - Gigabyte. Intel - ASUS. As for WFi, does not belong on a HEDT nor a Workstation for Content Creation. Why? DPC Latency. That would be the 1st thing to turn off. If You were using a Pro Audio interface, DPC Latency would be a problem to overcome. Why? Polling of Devices. Windows is not a real time O/S. Another Video! As for the GPU, that's going to be what this next Video is about, Workstation Video options and considerations. Stay tuned! Now... Your RTX 3090, how many Slots wide? 2 Slots or less? Which Decklink card? A 4 Lane card?

[@babakkosari3749]

@@BuildOrBuy Thank you for that information. My RTX 3090 is a three slot GPU so I have it on the first PCIe lane in a Fractal Design XL 7 case, all the way on the bottom. My DecLink is a mini monitor 4K, in the x8 slot (slot2). Then I have the Titan Ridge card in slot 3. Slots 4,5 and 6 are taken by the RTX 3080 and finally slot 7 is occupied by the Auros raid card. Setting up Titan Ridge was a challenge to say the least but it is now working flawlessly.

[@babakkosari3749]

@@BuildOrBuy I did try the Maple Ridge card and there is an interesting message on the "About" section of the Thunderbolt Control Center that says "PCIe tunneling needs to be enabled for certain devices to connect." Supposedly configurable in the BIOS. I have not been able to get any further info on this and how to enable or disable it in the Gigabyte WRX80 MB. Any thoughts?

[@cuzzinbpoty6069]

Gigabyte will be late to market heard soon.many issue and the supermicro looks cheap

[@BuildOrBuy]

Hi Free Money, ASUS looks like the clear winner! Now I'd like to know about what Gigabyte found out! My guess would be the Bios based on what we're finding on the TRX40 with Slot and Lane assignments. That's been a convoluted process as outlined in this last and next video coming out tomorrow! Bleeding edge technology! We need to wait and watch before we jump!

[@georgelorimer9452]

Please stop pointing

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Hi George, Thank You for watching!