3 Carol Brass Trumpets! The 5060L YSS, 6280H GSS & the Giuffredi

[@pebblebeach8517]

I am really impressed with the 5060 it produces a sound I like…thx great job

[@JonathanMilam1]

I was really impressed with this trumpet. A friend of mine has this trumpet for sale here: reverb.com/item/69083083-carol-brass-5060l-yss-lacquer I've told her she should NOT sell this trumpet but keep it, but still... She doesn't always listen to me. :) I'm not sure what makes this trumpet so good. I'm generally a Carol fan, but the SterlingSilver leadpipe may be what I notice; the trumpet just has a bit more zip or punch than most horns of this design.

[@AllinGold2]

I just picked up a 5060L-YSS. It has a pretty tight leadpipe, but the rounded tuning slide loosens things up a bit.

[@JonathanMilam1]

Every horn plays different. It's been said that Carol's 5060 is their 'take' on a Bach Strad, and as Strad's are known to not be the most open horns, that could be a trait. I didn't think mine played tight, but then again I play mostly Strads. :) I have thought the 5060 was an excellent horn in any comparison - and an exceptional bargain as well. Good luck with yours - and keep us informed how you do as you own and play it for a while. :) Best wishes!!

[@rustytrubey3269]

Hey Jonathan! Glad to see some Carol Brass horns. I didn't see them on your marketplace site on Trumpet herald.

[@JonathanMilam1]

One goes to a dear friend in the frozen northlands of Canada. The 6280 is being weighed in the balances... It's a nice player and a VERY pretty horn. I have to keep some of them, you know. :)

[@Clunie999]

Jon - I agree with the other posters you sound really great on that GR 63Z. The 5060L really sang with that piece.

[@JonathanMilam1]

Go shallow or go home, is that what I'm hearing? :)

[@Clunie999]

@@JonathanMilam1 well not exactly. You sound good on them all but that last piece you had it sizzling!

[@gamer-zm3bi]

They sound good 👍 I also played many trumpets including Carol Brass, Schilke, Bach, Olds etc. Now I'm really enjoying a Getzen Eterna with sterling silver bell and a Kanstul French Besson Brevete trumpet. I use the sterling silver Lefreque. Best results so far. :)

[@JonathanMilam1]

I've had one of Kanstul's Brevettes; it's an excellent horn. I've had two of the Meha's as well (pretty similar). Those are very good horns. I've had two Getzens and two Lawlers (with Getzen valve blocks); they were all nice, but I've never had the Sterling belled Eterna... It sounds nice. :)

[@gamer-zm3bi]

@@JonathanMilam1 thanks for your answer. I've seen your reviews of the Kanstul Brevette trumpet. I was very lucky that I picked up one of these in like new condition. The Getzen Sterling is even better. Will make a video of it on my "Brüder Meyers" channel soon. :)

[@JonathanMilam1]

Good to hear - and please send a link here when you do. I'd love to see it. :)

[@chris430811]

I do enjoy the GR 63 ** you sound very nice on it

[@JonathanMilam1]

Thank you, Chris. I always listen to my vids before I make them public (I don't want to overly embarass myself :) ), I was thinking today, 'I like that GR 63...'. Thanks for commenting!

[@chris430811]

@@JonathanMilam1 is That GR 63** a very shallow or moderately shallow mouthpiece and do you know if there are shallower GR?

[@JonathanMilam1]

Pretty shallow, Chris, but I'm not close to bottoming out on it. Not sure why, but it's pretty impressive. Here is GR's list... www.grmouthpieces.com/category-s/170.htm

[@jimnolan3354]

I see you still like the Carolbrass AG model.

[@JonathanMilam1]

I am VERY impressed. I'm thinking of having Charlie Melk use this body and make it a Schilke type tunable/removable bell. The intonation on this trumpet is SO nice... I'd love to hear how it plays with a Strad 72* bell, a 65G bell, and a nice, tight little Benge 2 bell... They're all just waiting for a body to latch onto. :)

[@robertoozbusi3427]

Would you suggest or agree that with a 5060 CB is somewhat more difficult to get into high range than a Bach Stradivarius 37? I currently have a 5060 and want to sell to get a Bach. Tried Bach once and seemed easier to play - I’m intermediate player only. I want something if it does exist that makes for a bit of a walking stick for a poorer technique. 5060 has been good but I think a slightly more pro trumpet Bach 37 or Yamaha 8335 would help. Could I PPOs may be more wrong ? 👍😆

[@JonathanMilam1]

Roberto... The Carol 5060 is just about as good as it gets in trumpets, in my opinion. There is a bit more resistance in most Bach Strad horns, but it is 'planned' resistance, I think. Some people have better range with a Strad IF they know how to use the resistance, use the right mouthpiece, etc. I'm a huge believer in CarolBrass trumpets! BUT I do have 4 Bach Stradivarius trumpets at the moment. :) There is nothing like SHOWING a Strad when you go to play with other trumpeters. And the tone that I can get with a Strad is good (in my opinion); possibly because I am NOT a big wind guy, not a loud or dominant player. Yamaha's can be excellent horns - but will most likely be more like your Carol trumpet. If you can get a Strad on trial for a few weeks or so, then you can have your Carol and see which does you best. I believe Dillon ( www.dillonmusic.com/ ) and this place www.brassandwinds.com/ both seem to have good return options. Dillon's also often has a LOT of used trumpets - and still with good return options. The Mighty Quinn, brassandwinds.com, also runs B stock (slight problems with exterior finish, etc.) and used trumpets. It may be worthwhile to call and speak to both places; they have some excellent sales help; some of the salesmen and women are very good trumpeters. It's a bit rare, but if you can find a Strad with a 25-O leadpipe (O stands for 'open'), or a 43 leadpipe they play a bit mroe open - but they are pretty rare. Good luck - and feel free to keep in touch; I enjoy talking about trumpets. Contact me direct at [e-mail] if you like; it's easier for me to communicate there. Good luck!! :)

[@robertoozbusi3427]

@@JonathanMilam1 I live in Australia and with the philosophy of I can only play one trumpet at the time I have just sold my 5060 and bought a new 180S37. That will be me for a few years now. Thank you for the great answer. I have just seen that Giuffredi has launched another version of his signature trumpet and I guess the quest for the one and only trumpet is an infinite space of entertainment. I still have my little CB pocket trumpet so that I have not left the family for good. Your demo videos are great and can't wait for the next! Thank you. Roberto

[@JonathanMilam1]

Well, it is hard to beat a Strad 37. :) I did find out a few years ago about MK tuning slides, and that makes them even better. I've got Bronze tuning slides to tone down the brightness of my lightweight bells, and I've got a Sterling Silver slide that'll brighten up any quiet bells that I have... Life is good. :) Let me know how you and your Strad get along, ok? Continued best wishes, Roberto!

[@chris430811]

On the gio- Freddie you mentioned it has a “smaller” receiver- Do you have measurements or does the mouthpiece stick out further

[@JonathanMilam1]

Not sure what I meant there, Chris, I'd have to hear it in context if you can remember what minute I say it let me know. My recollection is that the Giuffredie was an open blow, can't recall what the word on the leadpipe was.