4 Vintage Olds Trumpets...
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Shires TRQ10S & Edwards Gen II
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14 күн бұрын
3 Trumpets for Sale!
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Ай бұрын
The Olds Mendez Trumpet, '52
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Yamaha 8335 Xeno V. Edwards Gen II
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Yamaha 8335 Xeno Bb Trumpet
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4 ай бұрын
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@maldrighi
@maldrighi 21 сағат бұрын
It has a light bell like the B&S Challenger 3137 1. Are they similar in sound? What are the differences?
@shipsahoy1793
@shipsahoy1793 Күн бұрын
Nice video Jon. I prefer the sound of a good trombone player over the trumpet generally, as I lean towards lower soprano on down, although I like flute and some trumpet soloists kick butt, but I really do like the flugelhorn sound best. I've been listening to Wilbur Harden on my old circa late '50's Yusef Lateef albums. 👍 Can't play brass instruments, but I do play alto and tenor sax, and also flutes. I'm a woodwinds dude lol 🎷😉
@JonathanMilam1
@JonathanMilam1 Күн бұрын
Thanks for your kind words. I've been talking to several trumpeters today; we expect bright out of a trumpet, less so out of a cornet, and still less (a nice mellow sound) out of our flugels. Gotta say though - I love flute. I've got one I play every now and then. I've also got an alto sax up in my closet for when I retire (about 3 years from now). That way I can tell my wife, 'Hey, now I've got sax appeal!' (old line - but I love it). And I do have the alto sax waiting. :)
@shipsahoy1793
@shipsahoy1793 Күн бұрын
@@JonathanMilam1 😄🎷Good luck with that Jon, although tenor sax seems way sexier than alto to a lot of folks, but I think it's all about the tone. Good tone well placed in any octave can sound awesome..😉 Whenever I heard Cannonball (Julian Adderly) working a solo over multiple choruses with a tenor man (Coltrane, Lateef, or whoever) preceeding or following, it always sounded awesome. Alto sax is great fun, and "quicker" than tenor. Smaller and lighter is easier to work.. and as you also know, you just need the right mouthpiece (and reed combination) and the facility through finger dexterity, embouchure and practice to ultimately harness the tone desired from the horn. Best of luck.. Learning is lifelong..👍 Have fun!👨🏻
@joedown962
@joedown962 3 күн бұрын
I just bought a 1965 6B and I'm totally in love with that little horn. Did you ever play one of these? I'd be curious to get a comparison between the 7B and the 10B. Rhanks!
@JonathanMilam1
@JonathanMilam1 2 күн бұрын
Joe, greetings and thanks for commenting. I think I've had a 6B, but I don't have a video up of one, so it must have been several years ago. I definitely had a 6A. They're similar. Conn was making some tremendous models back then. I'm gravitated to Olds horns, but I still pick up a good Conn when I can find them. :) Here's where I get a lot of my info on Conn horns; it's a superb site. cderksen.home.xs4all.nl/ConnLooksTrumpet.html
@lilalali6753
@lilalali6753 4 күн бұрын
All sounds good, no difference. Maybe there is a difference of feel for the player. As a hobby trumpet player I found significant difference only between the mouthpieces. With a good mp any trumpet sounds good.
@JonathanMilam1
@JonathanMilam1 4 күн бұрын
The easiest way to alter a trumpet tone IS with a mouthpiece. It's also far and away the cheapest way to change sound. :) The slides do make a difference, but it is subtle, the overtones change. It's probalby more noticable hearing it directly in a room (mics just aren't as sensitive as the human ear), but mouthpieces still make the more dynamic change. Thanks for listening - and commenting! :)
@gregorypicazohornguy3054
@gregorypicazohornguy3054 6 күн бұрын
Great video. I closed my eyes and listened. I give the slight nod to the Mendez
@JonathanMilam1
@JonathanMilam1 6 күн бұрын
Thank you! I didn't think the Mendez sounded quite as good as I'd hoped, but it was the 'first' with each mouthpiece... I was warmed up thoroughly with each mouthpiece by the time I got to the Strads. All 3 are good horns - fun to play. The Mendez is the easiest to fill though... :)
@texasredneck9226
@texasredneck9226 6 күн бұрын
I agree. Bach Strad had a mellower sound. The Bachs must be either (I believe) either New York or Mt Vernon Bach. The current renditions are no comparison to those!
@JonathanMilam1
@JonathanMilam1 6 күн бұрын
The Bach's are probably both made in the late '90's, but they are good players. I did have one Mt. Vernon; extraordinary sound, but bit dark for me. I usually get a fairly dark tone anyway, a lighter bell usually works better for me. Good comments though -thank you for contributing!
@texasredneck9226
@texasredneck9226 6 күн бұрын
Well I'm curious... Have you ever tested a .470 Callett Soloist or a Calicchio?
@JonathanMilam1
@JonathanMilam1 6 күн бұрын
I've had 2 Callet Jazz horns; both were excellent. They are the only Callet horns I've had. And, unbelievably, I've NEVER had a Callichio. Most of the Callichio's I've seen were just way more money than I wanted to spend. Maybe some day though... :)
@markgandcompany
@markgandcompany 6 күн бұрын
Hi Jonathon, I think the Mendez has a more mellow tone and you seem to be able to articulate it easier than the Bachs,
@JonathanMilam1
@JonathanMilam1 6 күн бұрын
The Mendez is easier to play, for me at least. It's what I like in a horn, fairlyl tight, with a small light bell. It's a near perfect fit. But I like the 43*, and I love the STerling Silver Plus bells. Thanks for commenting!
@SmeeUncleJoe
@SmeeUncleJoe 11 күн бұрын
I love my Olds 47' Standard. If anyone has any insights as to how the Standard fits into the evolution of Olds horns, I'd love to know. I thought I heard that the Standard was the precursor to the Super, but am not sure.
@JonathanMilam1
@JonathanMilam1 10 күн бұрын
I believe I’ve read that the ‘Standard’ was the end of production of ‘the Olds’, which was the Olds original trumpet model. I had a Standard, I believe also from ‘47; it was fantastic. :) Enjoy it! :)
@SmeeUncleJoe
@SmeeUncleJoe 10 күн бұрын
@@JonathanMilam1 Apparently mine was owned by someone on the Lawrence Welk orchestra and was sold out of that famous Hollywood music store that I can't remember the name of now.
@gregorypicazohornguy3054
@gregorypicazohornguy3054 11 күн бұрын
Love your videos Jonathan. That Olds Mendez, I have the exact horn with spring 1st and 3rd valve slides. Looks to be in the same shape. Great sound on that horn.
@JonathanMilam1
@JonathanMilam1 11 күн бұрын
Gregory, thank you. :) I am crazy about the Mendez, frankly; it’s a very enjoyable trumpet to play. I need to make a video comparing it to one of my Strads, perhaps later this week. Any great Olds can be a truly great horn though. The Mendez are a bit rare though. We’re lucky to each have one. :)
@gregorypicazohornguy3054
@gregorypicazohornguy3054 11 күн бұрын
I hope you do that comparison with the Strad! Yeah those old Olds are so nice. I have an Olds Superstar flugelhorn that is great. Of the four you just played, the Mendez hit me as the most pleasant tone. You sure have a collection.
@gretel1015
@gretel1015 11 күн бұрын
Jonathan, you sounded great. The symphony sounds amazing and the Recording sounds the best to me. I picked up a 1953 Recording in Mint condition that has great valves and a beautiful sound. I discovered when I took it to rehearsal that it projected really well. Better than any of my other horns.
@JonathanMilam1
@JonathanMilam1 11 күн бұрын
Thank you for the kind words. The Symphony amazes me every time I play it. :) I subconsciously consider it an item of beauty - which it certainly is. Amazingly it is a very nice player too. The Recording has not been an easy player for me. Whether it was my chops yesterday or the mouthpiece, this video is no doubt the best sound I’ve got from the Recirding. I’ve got friends that cherish theirs, I may just need to spend more time on mine. :) Again, thanks for your kind words.
@pitgroove.37_66
@pitgroove.37_66 12 күн бұрын
Even though I've played Bach strads before, I would probably go with the schilke. I think in general I find Bach trumpets a little on the resistant and restrictive side for me, And I tend to prefer a horn that is in general more open and freer blowing, which is what schilke trumpets tend to be. But I definitely would like to try a Bach Stradivarius LR trumpet with a reverse lead pipe, from what I've seen online they play and feel fairly open
@JonathanMilam1
@JonathanMilam1 11 күн бұрын
I’ve got a LR and ac25-O now; both are more open. Still, most Strads definitely give the resistance in the early part of the horn. Also, I’ve had 2 Large more Strads; shockingly wonderful horns; I loved the feel of both of them. :) But it is hard to complain about Schilke’s. And they all yield more than I merit in a horn.
@davidclarke10
@davidclarke10 14 күн бұрын
Is this herb Alert trumpet type?
@JonathanMilam1
@JonathanMilam1 13 күн бұрын
I do believe I've heard that Albert played a Benge, at least at some point in his career. I was playing one of his Tijauna Brass songs a couple days ago, in fact... Fun music. :)
@anthonykaiser974
@anthonykaiser974 14 күн бұрын
BTW, these run 0.438" bore and a smallish bell where most modern trumpets are ~0.460ish with a bigger bell. Not quite a true "peashooter" but the wrap is on the tighter side compared to your typical Besson clone. I've done some cleanup on mine. It's just brass and old lacquer that looks pinkish when there's just a little of whatever they used on the base layer. The Easy Off works for the most part, but there are some spots that just won't break up for whatever reason.
@JonathanMilam1
@JonathanMilam1 13 күн бұрын
Anthony, it's an incredibly small bell. I couldn't get it to sit down into ANY of my trumpet stands. Kind of hilarious, actually. Still - I wish I'd never sold this trumpet. It would fall under, 'for that rare occasion when...'. Thanks for commenting - you make some excellent points.
@teresamessenger5399
@teresamessenger5399 15 күн бұрын
You are cool. Play it again...
@JonathanMilam1
@JonathanMilam1 13 күн бұрын
Well, I WAS having fun... :)
@frederickwoods5943
@frederickwoods5943 15 күн бұрын
The Shires doesn't sound as good as the Edwards. Maybe you were a bit more warmed up but the Shires is a good comparison to a Bach strad sound wise; it's tinny...😢
@JonathanMilam1
@JonathanMilam1 15 күн бұрын
Most of my horns sound a bit brassy when compared to the Edwards. What a beast their Gen II is! :)
@frederickwoods5943
@frederickwoods5943 15 күн бұрын
I have the Hammond organ (not a B3, an M-100) that my parents bought in the mid 1960's. As you said, we're not keyboardists but it offers a respite from trumpet. A fellow is starting a school here in the mid-coastal east area of the US to train technicians and since I have experience in electronics repair it would be nice to learn some of the tricks of the trade and help other owners.
@JonathanMilam1
@JonathanMilam1 15 күн бұрын
The Hammond is such a classic. Good info, Frederick; thank you.
@MichaelP-b9q
@MichaelP-b9q 15 күн бұрын
Jonathan, nice job on this utube. I played the Severinsen Model professionally for 14 years on the road
@JonathanMilam1
@JonathanMilam1 15 күн бұрын
Michael; Thank you for commenting. I had one of the original Severinsen models from Getzen - what a great horn. A friend of mine begged and begged for it until I finally traded it to him. Huge mistake. I bought this one (like new but used) and just never enjoyed it as much as the original. I've got a friend in Houston that loved his remake, but to me it just wasn't the same; still an excellent horn and very nice player, but the originals were something else. :) I've got an Edwards Gen II (now for sale) that is also an outstanding horn. Getzen/Edwards... they make some outstanding player. Again, thanks for commenting, Michael. Continued best wishes!
@onelife2live972
@onelife2live972 16 күн бұрын
❤ beautiful gift you have and have shared!! Thank you!
@JonathanMilam1
@JonathanMilam1 15 күн бұрын
Very kind of you to comment; thank you. :) This is SUCH an outstanding song; may God bless the writer and all who hear. :)
@lufknuht5960
@lufknuht5960 19 күн бұрын
Curry large throat DV cup mouthpiece. Thanks for telling me about that. I plan to look into it.
@JonathanMilam1
@JonathanMilam1 19 күн бұрын
Mark Curry's mouthpieces are very, very popular, and extremely affordable as well. :)
@lufknuht5960
@lufknuht5960 19 күн бұрын
"Ian White"? Isn't it N H White? Did you misspeak when you said trumpet for that cornet? Because of corrosion, I would avoid putting my bare hand & fingers on that horn. Don't you have a white velvit glove? I think that the Silversonic Trumpet has a sterling silver lead pipe (after the mouthpiece) in addition to the sterling silver bell. What about this corner? I think that these instruments deserve a (sterling) silver mouthpiece & that Yamaha used to make one. donno about now.
@JonathanMilam1
@JonathanMilam1 19 күн бұрын
The name was H N White, and no; I don't use gloves to play. They can be a great help while polishing though. Some of these instruments did have what I think was a Nickel-Silver leadpipe; that's my preference actually, for there is less possibility of deterioration (redrot) in the leadpipe. These are really very nice cornets. I find the trumpets to be a bit harder to play - but I have enjoyed a number of these cornets.
@CheukTheGreatestOfEverything
@CheukTheGreatestOfEverything 21 күн бұрын
Great video Jonathan. The music teacher in my school wants me to play the flugel, should I get the piston ones or rotor ones?
@JonathanMilam1
@JonathanMilam1 21 күн бұрын
I'm embarassed to say that I've only played piston flugels. :) I've never played a rotary trumpet either. Of course I did start on French Horn in Middle School, but since I've moved to trumpet, cornet and flugel - it's all been piston. Let me know what you decide to do! :)
@SavedRickAstley
@SavedRickAstley 21 күн бұрын
never gonna give you up never gonna let you down never gonna run around and desert you
@JonathanMilam1
@JonathanMilam1 19 күн бұрын
Well said, Rick!!
@semantic7777
@semantic7777 24 күн бұрын
Hello Jonathan, seeking your advice please. If you could purchase 1 of the following trumpets all for the same price and condition which would you choose please? I should also mention I have the opportunity to purchase one, however, "unplayed" due to being such a distance from them all. To be played at military funerals and special events (Australia) and for personal pleasure and then one day pass onto my children. INTERNATIONAL TRUMPET Bb by KANSTUL BACH STRADIVARIUS TRUMPET 37 Yamaha YTR-736 Trumpet Yamaha YTR-6335 Trumpet
@JonathanMilam1
@JonathanMilam1 23 күн бұрын
Great question - and I think I've had all of these. Here's the order I would choose: 1) Bach Strad 37 2) Yamaha 6335 (only because it's a newer model than the 736 3) Yamaha 736 4) Kanstul International. Here's why... The Strad 37 is SUCH a classic, it's hard to go against it. I've had some better than others, but almost never a bad one. Of all things, the worst 37 I had was the Anniversary Edition, and most people rave about that one. If it doesn't fit you - it's probably the easiest horn to resell too, which is nice just in case... A good Yamaha can be an excellent horn, but the 6335 is an older model number. Strangely, the 6335 could be a newer horn (by manufacture date) than the Strad 37, but this isn't immediately obvious. I've never had a bad old Yamaha, but some of the 3 digit serial number horns did have an alloy problem that hurt the valve action. Rare, but a bit worrisome. The Kanstul International I had played tight. It would have made a tremendous horn for the lead player, but it wasn't really comparable to a pro Strad or Yamaha, at least the horns that I've had. I hope this helps! Sorry - I had a huge travel day yesterday. I tried responding earlier and had problems getting on. Feel free to reply with questions here or at my email: [email protected] And lastly - good luck!! :)
@semantic7777
@semantic7777 23 күн бұрын
@@JonathanMilam1 Thank you so much for replying and taking time out of your schedule to do so. Your experience and explanation as to why is greatly appreciated.
@JonathanMilam1
@JonathanMilam1 23 күн бұрын
My pleasure! :) I genuinely hope my thoughts are helpful. Most modern professional horns are far more capable than our abilities. Any of these four could be a very fine player. Good luck - and keep in touch!
@OrcaTrumpet
@OrcaTrumpet 24 күн бұрын
Bach 182. The Woody Shaw Flugelhorn
@JonathanMilam1
@JonathanMilam1 24 күн бұрын
Yes; and he was a monster on it. :) Great comment!
@episnod
@episnod 26 күн бұрын
Nicely done. This is lovely content and I salute you for trying to keep your chops together while having a day job. Those of us who do it for a living have a hard enough time doing the same. Bravo.
@JonathanMilam1
@JonathanMilam1 25 күн бұрын
Your comment is both kind and insightful; thank you. I will say the reverse is true in one way; if I have a chop problem - no biggie. But if full time players develop a problem it can be a huge calamity. :) Continued best wishes - and again - thank you for your kind comment.
@episnod
@episnod 25 күн бұрын
@@JonathanMilam1 Injuries occur far more often than reported or commonly known. There lingers a culture of macho, tough it out make it work attitude. However, the realities of balancing work at this level requires a deep knowledge of the physicalities involved.
@blackbeltjones2903
@blackbeltjones2903 Ай бұрын
The trumpet with the flugel mouthpiece sounds very similar to the cornet.
@JonathanMilam1
@JonathanMilam1 Ай бұрын
Well said! :)
@pitgroove.37_66
@pitgroove.37_66 Ай бұрын
How does this horn compare to a modern 8310z Bobby Shew horn?
@JonathanMilam1
@JonathanMilam1 Ай бұрын
Great question, especially since this was a forerunner, in the line of the 8310Z lineage. The 636 has a much more normal blow, more open and more like a mainstream horn than the 8310Z. The Z is most likely the tightest blow of any horn(s) that I've had, and I've had hundreds. The Z is a super horn - but many people find its blow to be a bit too restrictive.
@volveraempezarricardomonro9183
@volveraempezarricardomonro9183 Ай бұрын
Linda demostración maestro felicidades!! Una consulta tengo una trompeta Frank holton T-602 USA. ¿Que gama o nivel es respecto a comparación con otras trompetas de marcas conocidas del mercado?
@JonathanMilam1
@JonathanMilam1 Ай бұрын
With Google Translate.... Probablemente se considere un modelo de estudiante o intermedio, pero pueden ser muy buenos jugadores.
@volveraempezarricardomonro9183
@volveraempezarricardomonro9183 Ай бұрын
@@JonathanMilam1 mucha gracias maestro felicidades por su canal un abrazo.
@JonathanMilam1
@JonathanMilam1 Ай бұрын
Thank you. :) With Google Translate... Un buen trompetista puede sonar bien en cualquier trompa. Algunas bocinas profesionales hacen que tocar sea más fácil, pero conozco músicos profesionales que prefieren las bocinas de los estudiantes.
@robertoozbusi3427
@robertoozbusi3427 Ай бұрын
Would you suggest or agree that with a 5060 CB is somewhat more difficult to get into high range than a Bach Stradivarius 37? I currently have a 5060 and want to sell to get a Bach. Tried Bach once and seemed easier to play - I’m intermediate player only. I want something if it does exist that makes for a bit of a walking stick for a poorer technique. 5060 has been good but I think a slightly more pro trumpet Bach 37 or Yamaha 8335 would help. Could I PPOs may be more wrong ? 👍😆
@JonathanMilam1
@JonathanMilam1 Ай бұрын
Roberto... The Carol 5060 is just about as good as it gets in trumpets, in my opinion. There is a bit more resistance in most Bach Strad horns, but it is 'planned' resistance, I think. Some people have better range with a Strad IF they know how to use the resistance, use the right mouthpiece, etc. I'm a huge believer in CarolBrass trumpets! BUT I do have 4 Bach Stradivarius trumpets at the moment. :) There is nothing like SHOWING a Strad when you go to play with other trumpeters. And the tone that I can get with a Strad is good (in my opinion); possibly because I am NOT a big wind guy, not a loud or dominant player. Yamaha's can be excellent horns - but will most likely be more like your Carol trumpet. If you can get a Strad on trial for a few weeks or so, then you can have your Carol and see which does you best. I believe Dillon ( www.dillonmusic.com/ ) and this place www.brassandwinds.com/ both seem to have good return options. Dillon's also often has a LOT of used trumpets - and still with good return options. The Mighty Quinn, brassandwinds.com, also runs B stock (slight problems with exterior finish, etc.) and used trumpets. It may be worthwhile to call and speak to both places; they have some excellent sales help; some of the salesmen and women are very good trumpeters. It's a bit rare, but if you can find a Strad with a 25-O leadpipe (O stands for 'open'), or a 43 leadpipe they play a bit mroe open - but they are pretty rare. Good luck - and feel free to keep in touch; I enjoy talking about trumpets. Contact me direct at [email protected] if you like; it's easier for me to communicate there. Good luck!! :)
@robertoozbusi3427
@robertoozbusi3427 Ай бұрын
@@JonathanMilam1 I live in Australia and with the philosophy of I can only play one trumpet at the time I have just sold my 5060 and bought a new 180S37. That will be me for a few years now. Thank you for the great answer. I have just seen that Giuffredi has launched another version of his signature trumpet and I guess the quest for the one and only trumpet is an infinite space of entertainment. I still have my little CB pocket trumpet so that I have not left the family for good. Your demo videos are great and can't wait for the next! Thank you. Roberto
@JonathanMilam1
@JonathanMilam1 Ай бұрын
Well, it is hard to beat a Strad 37. :) I did find out a few years ago about MK tuning slides, and that makes them even better. I've got Bronze tuning slides to tone down the brightness of my lightweight bells, and I've got a Sterling Silver slide that'll brighten up any quiet bells that I have... Life is good. :) Let me know how you and your Strad get along, ok? Continued best wishes, Roberto!
@pitgroove.37_66
@pitgroove.37_66 Ай бұрын
That's a very nice horn just by looking at it through the video. Question though, what is the resistance factor on that horn compared to the Bobby Shew horn from your own perspective? I'm asking because I've tried out a shew horn but I've never tried this bergeron LA horn. I'm not the greatest trumpet player in the world, but I have tried out quite a few to know what it is I prefer in a horn.
@JonathanMilam1
@JonathanMilam1 Ай бұрын
Good question. Actually, it's a great question. The 8310 is a bit tight for me, but this LAII was too open. Fortunately, I had an regular 8335 between the two - and it was an excellent horn. Just right for resistance, and a tone to die for. The LA is a great horn, and I love the bell of the 8310... But they are kind of 'specialty horns' to my way of thinking, while the 8335 Xeno is more of Yamaha's mainline trumpet. Again - great question.
@pitgroove.37_66
@pitgroove.37_66 Ай бұрын
@@JonathanMilam1 Oh, so you're saying that the 8335LA is actually more free-blowing and more open than the 8310Z? Again, I'm not the greatest trumpet player in the world but in all my years of playing and trying out different trumpets, including a few strads, I have found that I prefer a more free-blowing and open instrument, basically little to no resistance
@JonathanMilam1
@JonathanMilam1 Ай бұрын
Yes; the 8310Z is the tightest Yamaha available (smaller leadpipe), the 8335 Xeno's (and older 6335) would be their mainstream, average players, and then the LA 1 (even more than the II) and II are more open blows. Wayne Bergeron, who helped design the LA model, is a BIG guy; probably 6'3" or more; big guy with lots of air to move and his horn is quite open - way too open for me. :) Here's a vid I did on an 8335 recently... kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3OaoKKrapyfd6M . This 8335 was an excellent horn. Another option is a CarolBrass trumpet; they are probably patterned quite closely after the Yamaha. Outstanding valves and slides (really nothing better) but likely half price of a Yamaha or Bach Stradivarius. Food for thought. :) Most Carol Brass trumpets will play quite like the Yamaha 8335; a very nice, easy, average blow. Good questions!! :)
@GordonHudson
@GordonHudson Ай бұрын
You would like our regional airline. Some of the planes land on beaches and you sometimes get livestock in the cabin if they are being taken to the mainland for medical treatment. I have done a lot of long haul flights and the quality is quite variable. One secret i have found is that if you are nice to tge cabin crew they will look after you. One time i was stuck at an airport with one of the kids and there was a plane problem. One woman was screaming at the cabin crew who were also at the gate that she needed home for a dinner party. I just said to the flight attendant i needed to get my boy hone for his bed and she said i would be fine. The shouty woman didnt get on the next flight but we did.
@JonathanMilam1
@JonathanMilam1 Ай бұрын
Treating Gate Agents and Flight Attendants nicely never hurts. :) They both have control and can, if they are treated poorly, immediately have someone removed from a flight plan or plane. We, in America, on our commercial flights are SO regulated, but I flew a couple of years for a company that did some flying in Africa. Occasionally they'd have to abort landings and go around again... Cattle on the runway. :) Some countries are quite so caring about keeping an airport secured. :) Great comments, Gordon. Thank you!
@frederickwoods5943
@frederickwoods5943 Ай бұрын
Grew up in an aviation family, flew commercial once in May 1987 and again in Feb 2015. Hundreds of hours in GA mostly Beech Bonanza and B-55 Baron with my late father. The first commercial flight was to a wedding here in the U.S. second was to Amsterdam to meet my (now) fiancee. On the way back home, she and I took the train from Swisshotel to the airport (Shipol) and a fellow boarded and sat across from us. I thought he was second officer, maybe a pilot so I began questioning him; he hardly responded. Couple hours later I am in my seat getting ready to leave for Virginia; about a 10-hour flight across the Atlantic Ocean. Guess why I about jumped outa my seat when someone tapped me on the shoulder and said "Mr. Woods?". It was the fellow, he had looked at the passenger manifest...very well mannered flight steward who I finally got to talk to. You have the same dna that this guy had, it would be a pleasure to fly on your airline when you're working. I'll bring a trumpet...
@JonathanMilam1
@JonathanMilam1 Ай бұрын
Very cool story! :) I always have a pocket trumpet in my suitcase... We could duet and get us both kicked out of the plane... And maybe the airport! :) Seriously though - cool stuff. Thanks for commenting!
@frederickwoods5943
@frederickwoods5943 Ай бұрын
Just played "Taps" today with a USAF honor guard at a very remote cemetery in the hill country here. Wish I could post a picture of the venue and the 5 members of the group, they certainly look young 😊
@robertg7538
@robertg7538 Ай бұрын
Hi Jonathan, I just got an Olds Super made in the mid 50s. I think the Super is one of Old's brightest sounding horns. Thanks for the Rawlin mouthpiece reference. One more search for me! BTW, I still intend to send some photos of my Selmer Paris trumpets and cornet. Sorry for the delay.
@JonathanMilam1
@JonathanMilam1 Ай бұрын
You've got some very nice horns, Robert. I've had 5 or 6 Supers - and none of them bad. Some better than others, but all were good. Ditto for Selmer horns: They are SO well made. I've had Selmer trumpets, but never (yet) a cornet. Maybe some day! :) Send pics when you can, but don't beat yourself up about it. :)
@GordonHudson
@GordonHudson Ай бұрын
The throat on the mouthpiece made for my Monette P3 trumpet was a #7 throat! It was an STC3, so the heaviest weight they make.
@JonathanMilam1
@JonathanMilam1 Ай бұрын
Wow. My Reeves C2J Trumpet-Flugel piece is an 11; that's big (it's an outstanding piece, by the way, with a very deep V). I can't imagine a piece with a 7. Isn't that really larger than necessary?
@GordonHudson
@GordonHudson Ай бұрын
@@JonathanMilam1 It didn't feel big because it was so heavy. The wider throat can brighten up that kind of heavyweight mouthpiece and make it feel less restrictive. Plus the instrument was designed for it. It's a massive hole though. You could almost drop some mouthpiece cleaning brushes straight through it.
@apeschell
@apeschell Ай бұрын
On the strad does the tuning bell give more open blow?
@JonathanMilam1
@JonathanMilam1 Ай бұрын
Funny, but I've had 3 or 4 tuning slide horns and I haven't noticed too much difference. Maybe a bit of tonal difference with the missing brace by the bell, but one can get a removable brace for that. The Blackburn leadpipe probably has more effect on the blow of this trumpet - and his leadpipes are famous for a reason; the blow and intonation are hard to beat. Great question!! :)
@apeschell
@apeschell Ай бұрын
Would love to try one! And hear the 37 bell difference too
@gretel1015
@gretel1015 Ай бұрын
Jonathan, of the Monettes I think you sounded the best on the Prana. I loved your sound on the GR and the MT Vernon. I sent the Unity I had back. MY GR 65M with Symphonic Back Bore and my Reeves 42S worked for me much better.
@JonathanMilam1
@JonathanMilam1 Ай бұрын
I really like the Unity for switching octaves and intonation... But the drill size may be a bit much for me. Time will tell.... :)
@SamuelPlaysBrass
@SamuelPlaysBrass Ай бұрын
Nice demo and insights, Jonathan. It sure is a little annoying that “C” doesn’t mean the same thing across (a) different diameters and (b) different eras of manufacture in Bach’s lineup. What I heard from listening to your samples back to back (granted, somewhat subjective) was what I expected to-the “shallower” C cups (those being the 3 and 1-1/2) did indeed sound a bit bigger but had a bit more front to the notes and more concentration in the higher frequencies despite being “bigger.” You sound most at home on the 7C, but that is likely because I also tend to prefer the sound of deeper cups, as the 7C pretty clearly had in comparison to the others. I am an “A” guy myself-my main piece is a one-off Megatone 1-1/2A I found used six years ago and fell in love with. I’ve used it so much that I more or less can’t play anything else for long, although a GR 67M doesn’t hurt for lead. I’ve been in the process of trying Bach’s other more common “A” cups. The 5A does indeed feel reasonably like what 8mm used to, because as Gordon pointed out, Bach 1-1/2 and 5 diameters seem to share a certain closeness. Probably the rim shape of the 5 being a little sharper and lending itself to a wider-feeling ID even if nominally it should be a little smaller. With that said, however, the modern variant of the 7A, with Bach’s sharper new contour, is also quite the draw for me, as it is also quite a bit deeper than the other A’s. The corporation-era 7A, meanwhile, still has that depth I like, but the rim is too “comfy” and wide! The main issue is that the rim being less sharp really does affect the feel of the ID, and so older Bach 5 and 7 sizes tend to feel tighter for me.
@JonathanMilam1
@JonathanMilam1 Ай бұрын
Excellent comments, thank you, Samuel. I don't usually play Bach pieces much, probably because the 7 rim is not comfortable. I do have a straight 7 that I do like though, and a Bach Mt Vernon 7C that isn't bad. I like a bit shallower than a C, as I'm not a power player. Still - very, very good comments - thank you for posting. :)
@directcurrent5751
@directcurrent5751 Ай бұрын
Buying it. New Jupiter, THREE Dillons. New Yamaha, FOUR Dillons.
@JonathanMilam1
@JonathanMilam1 Ай бұрын
The Dillon flugel is simply a bargain. And there are precious few new brass bargains around. Thanks for commenting. :)
@pebblebeach8517
@pebblebeach8517 Ай бұрын
Xeno is a rich sounding horn not sure what it sounds from your end …
@JonathanMilam1
@JonathanMilam1 Ай бұрын
I was VERY impressed with this Xeno. I had an 8310 Gen 1 a few years back - I've always liked them. Then I had an 8335LA Gen 2 recently - great horn but way too open a blow for me. This Xeno is an ideal 'fit' between the 2 previously mentioned trumpets and I really enjoyed it. I've got almost 20 aftermarket tuning slides for Bach's, and they do make a difference for me, so I'll stick with my Bach horns. But in a straight up comparison, it would be hard to go against this Xeno.
@pebblebeach8517
@pebblebeach8517 Ай бұрын
Don’t know what it is about the Strad’s but the just sound better ….nevertheless they all sound wonderful.
@JonathanMilam1
@JonathanMilam1 Ай бұрын
3 great horns, really. I could live with any of them. :) I tend to like a small, lighter bell horn, and I've got a Bach Strad 43* that I really like, and an Olds Mendez that I'm really crazy about too. Too many great horns around, actually. :)
@JujuDeMusica-jn3hg
@JujuDeMusica-jn3hg Ай бұрын
How much for the silver one? It can be shipped here in ph? Hoping to get play trumpet again
@JonathanMilam1
@JonathanMilam1 Ай бұрын
The Shires is $1495 and shipping to the Philippines would be about $120. I could sell and ship it for $1550 if you are interested.
@JujuDeMusica-jn3hg
@JujuDeMusica-jn3hg Ай бұрын
Can it be still lower to $1200 including shipping? Also what is the price of the other 2? All of them sounds good
@JonathanMilam1
@JonathanMilam1 Ай бұрын
I'm asking $1795 for the lacquer (gold color) Edwards Gen II, and $2495 for the Stradivarius trumpet with 2 bells. I don't want to go as low as $1200 for the Shires at this point. But if you are patient and I don't get my asking price in the next few weeks, we might be able to sell near that price. Thank you for offering, too!
@gregorypicazohornguy3054
@gregorypicazohornguy3054 Ай бұрын
Wow what a distinct sound difference between them all. I kind of lean towards that Edwards sound.
@JonathanMilam1
@JonathanMilam1 Ай бұрын
Glad you can detect the difference! Yhey are all 3 good horns, but the Edwards, perhaps because of its heavier, larger bell, does have a powerful yet warm sound. thanks for commenting! :)
@golf4funjn532
@golf4funjn532 Ай бұрын
Great review and horns, Jonathan!
@JonathanMilam1
@JonathanMilam1 Ай бұрын
Great to hear from you, Jon! Too long a time. :) Thank you - they are three fine horns. :)
@golf4funjn532
@golf4funjn532 Ай бұрын
@@JonathanMilam1 Sounding good on the Look Of Love also!
@gretel1015
@gretel1015 Ай бұрын
Jonathan, you have tried so many horns, mouthpieces and equipment. Thank you for that. I have a GR 65M and a Reeves 42S. Both are great pieces but when I got the Reeves it was so easy to buzz and get a sound out. The Reeves is definitely easier blowing. I have a Monette unity B6-7 (which is similar in size) I am trying. I have to send it back by next Friday if I decide not to keep it. So far I like the GR and Reeves better. However, later today I am going to test it again and see if there is a difference in projection and sound focus from the other side of the bell. My fiancé is going to help. So, we’ll see. Thanks again Jonathan!
@JonathanMilam1
@JonathanMilam1 Ай бұрын
Michael, one of the top commercial trumpeters in NYC wrote on a thread at TrumpetHerald a few years back, ‘If you can get a good Reeves Medium…’ He considered a good Reeves M as good as it got. :) I bought a Prana BLM a couple weeks back and have a Unity BLM waiting on me at home now… Time will tell. :)
@gretel1015
@gretel1015 Ай бұрын
@@JonathanMilam1 Let me know how it goes with the Monettes. I tried mine again today and the GR 65M with the Symphonic Backbore was much easier to play. BTW I got my Prewar Besson Brevete back from Rich Ita (it had a noisy 2 valve) and it plays so well. I am expecting a Chicago Benge this week in almost pristine condition. It was made in 1950. So, we'll see how it plays versus my Besson and my LA Benge. Have a safe Memorial DA
@angelvamful
@angelvamful 2 ай бұрын
You are so knowledgeable! God bless you! 🙌🏼 🙏🏼
@JonathanMilam1
@JonathanMilam1 Ай бұрын
You are most kind. :) Thank you for listening - and commenting! :)
@rewIndustry
@rewIndustry 2 ай бұрын
only the trumpet seems to have that bark, however the flugel sounds almost like it's made of wood. the cornet seems to have the most articulation, the sound is least interfered with. i need all of these, and i can't even play wind. thank you very much for the information.
@JonathanMilam1
@JonathanMilam1 Ай бұрын
Well said... The trumpet does have that 'certain sound', I think. :)
@gretel1015
@gretel1015 2 ай бұрын
I have always liked the Olds Trumpets. I have a gorgeous Olds Recording. It is funny that he said he would be happy to play an Ambassador. I remember reading that when Olds asked Uan Rasey to play Olds trumpets - especially the Recording model. He didn't like the offset valves and he said just send him over an Ambassador - which shows how great those horns they were. Jonathan, you sound great of the horn.
@JonathanMilam1
@JonathanMilam1 Ай бұрын
THIS is true - I mixed the two stories up - the one of Rafael not liking the tight valves and the story of Uan saying he'd be happy to play an Ambassador. THANK YOU! I've made the correction in my comments. (Senior moment, I fear!!)
@pebblebeach8517
@pebblebeach8517 2 ай бұрын
Even it is a modified Ambassador there’s no shame in that they’re fabulous horns with their own sound. Nevertheless this trumpet is as you said “ what a trumpet should sound like” ….good seeing you, sir.
@JonathanMilam1
@JonathanMilam1 Ай бұрын
I'm having a blast with my Mendez; whatever it is and whatever it was patterned after. And always nice to hear from you! :)
@vincentdesiano4861
@vincentdesiano4861 2 ай бұрын
Hey Joe, I like what you had to say. I have an Olds Super Recording. I haven’t played in many years. Enjoyed what you had to say. We’ll be checking you out. Iove the the originators:
@JonathanMilam1
@JonathanMilam1 2 ай бұрын
Vincent, thank you for commenting. The Olds Super Recording is such a revered and valued trumpet... Congrats on owning one. And thanks for the kind remarks. :)