3 Fires, Dead Fish: UPDATE Fredericktown MO Lithium-ion Fire

[@michaeld223]

The green dream is looking more like a nightmare.

[@Tom-dt4ic]

Yeah, let's go back to a fuel that doesn''t burn like gasoline.

[@gitfoad8032]

It's a safe & kind world - don't naysay the vaginas.

[@TCBOT]

@@Tom-dt4ic if i drop i can og fuel on the floor from 10ft it does nothing if i drop and ebike battery 500wh it goes very bad very fast

[@fdMT_EnGy]

​@Tom-dt4ic Not one person has ever argued that gasoline doesn't burn. You people have no other arguments other than 'but but but oil'. You're focusing on the wrong issue because it doesn't help your argument. Again, no one says gasoline doesn't burn, the issue is the intensity at which it burns compared to Li-ion batteries and the difficulty in knocking those fires down. That right there is the problem. Stop doing the 'but but but' and pay attention to what is being argued.

[@Johnfisher12345]

@Tom-dt4ic Translation: “I can’t let go of the green agenda despite its obvious failure, just like Nancy Pelosi can’t let go of the election her party just lost. I am hopelessly confused, the definition of an NPC.”

[@EleanorPeterson]

I'm surprised they're not blaming the diesel engines of the fire trucks which attended the blaze.🙄

[@deniswauchope3788]

The fire would've been easily put out, if only the fire trucks had been EVs! (I can hear the fanboys saying that now, sigh.)

[@basbass429]

@@deniswauchope3788 It is referral to that massive parking-garage that burned to the ground in the UK. On video you can clearly see it was the hybrid battery doing the EV thing, burn the building it is in to the ground. The media later claimed "it was a diesel".

[@robertplatte5700]

it was the fire truck engines, the exhaust sound vibrations from the trucks caused the water in the river/dam/lake/pond, to also vibrate which in turn shook the fishes brains loose

[@lot2196]

​@@robertplatte5700😂😂😂😂😂

[@MrTheHillfolk]

​@@deniswauchope3788 All those diesel trucks in one place caused it's own smog that would kill 100 fish 345 times a day for the next 93 years don't you know ? I weep for the fish. 🤪

[@steveschofro298]

The world is so blessed to have you informing others so professionally. Any entity dealing with Li batteries and BESS stored energy needs a 250,000 gallon, gravity-fed suppression system. As well a well dig civil job like a Petro tank farm compacted clay base with a 3/8 inch thick poly liner. Fill on top of that will allow the proper perk. Otay Mesa California BESS grid system burned for 20 days due to no firewall separation in a 2-acre warehouse. HF will contaminate very aggressively. LLC’s no liability. Criminal need regulations fast. Private equity and foreign capital and batteries are moving fast in BESS. Very bad situations will not if result in tax payer death.

[@VincentNajger1]

'biodegradable' just means that it'll break down into a heap of stuff that still isn't meant to be in an ecosystem. Its a weasel word used to placate angry locals.

[@zoltanrudolf]

Good point!

[@joejones4172]

Is it? I didn't know that, but it makes sense.

[@deezelfairy]

Meh, 'biodegradable' generally means a substance will break down into non toxic constituents in time. Whether those constituents are natural to the environment depends on the substance but they will generally be non toxic regardless. The original substance in question can still be incredibly acutely toxic in the interim however... The issue is people equating 'biodegradable' with non toxic which is a fallacy. Ethylene glycol for example is extremely toxic but breaks down in soil in about a month - but any plant, animal that consumes it before this happens will likely die.

[@Mike-01234]

Like recycling tire yards wonder if that is biodegradable when they go up in smoke

[@JFKennedy-lf7es]

​@@deezelfairy Seems people don't know about the lithium mining in Africa and total fish kill a hundred miles away from the dust......

[@fredmonroe6042]

Ooo saving the environment one toxic fire at a time.

[@angleseyandy9110]

Destroying the environment one battery at a time, one EV at a time

[@DanThomas-n1e]

The entire INDUSTRY is going up in flames But SOMEHOW HURRICANES is the problem for the insurance companies

[@chrisward5626]

Oil and petrol fires have been destroying the environment for decades , so to has the foam used to put the fires out

[@alanakafang6143]

@@chrisward5626 remain ignorant Chris

[@tonysheerness2427]

@@alanakafang6143 Ones eyes are useless when the brain is blind.

[@bikersoncall]

@@DanThomas-n1e 😄 True, 'the Industry is going up in smoke, green smoke'.

[@johnzee691]

when will the insanity end..........?

[@mikewallace8087]

When the Sun produces another Carrington event to destroy the function of everything electric on planet Earth. Within 25 years .

[@8023120SL]

When insurance companies start saying NOPE!

[@remcovanvliet3018]

When the money runs out.

[@SHREDTILLDEAD]

​@@mikewallace8087 If that ever happened.

[@mikewallace8087]

@@SHREDTILLDEAD It did . Sept. 1-2 1859 . Go find it yourself.

[@basspig]

To think that electric power companies want to place large bags of lithium ion batteries, we're talking about a quantity of 50 40 ft containers basically, in residential areas where they don't have firefighting capacity for that kind of a blaze. It's absolutely insanity.

[@audioscavenger]

"Potentially"?? Its definitive bro, all running waters from those fires are toxic and went straight into the river. Do you doubt it?

[@VeteranofthePsychicWars]

People just don’t understand or appreciate the complexity and danger of handling these materials. More work and research is needed for these materials.

[@TheGuruStud]

Yeah, stop making them for cars.

[@lancethrust9488]

@@TheGuruStud ONLY GOOD FOR SMALL MOBILE DEVICES

[@splat003]

company's choose to apreciate the money more than the safety of handling these materials

[@iGame3D]

There are already alternatives, but industry and society are dirt slow on the uptake.

[@iGame3D]

@@lancethrust9488 That's literally the kinds of batteries we see being recycled in this video.

[@williamlloyd3769]

Wouldn’t local FD have reviewed and signed off on building permitting, design, construction and compliance with applicable laws? Wouldn’t local fire department do routine walkthroughs of the plant so that responding crews know what to expect and what precautions to take? PS - any reports by state environmental officials?

[@WeChallenge]

I live in Perryville MO, the next incorporated city to the east of the Fredericktown MO battery plant fire. Thanks for keeping people informed on this ongoing situation and I'm hopeful the coverage continues on this when results of testing comes out. Peace.

[@shaynegadsden]

remember this is the environmentally friendly option

[@joshuacheung6518]

Oil refinery fires are also pretty spicy. Not sure how they stack up against each other for damage though

[@Mike-01234]

What about the tire recycling yards that burn for days pouring black thick smoke into the air I guess your good with oil fires. I don't get why people want to be dependent on an oil company. EV is way more then just environmental I can charge my EV with my own solar system not reliant on anyone.

[@shaynegadsden]

@Mike-01234 what EV's removed the need for tyres? And to add i don't care type of vehicle people choose to use my point is these are being forced on us as the only choice for environmental reasons

[@shaynegadsden]

@@joshuacheung6518 oil refinery fires release CO² for the most part

[@Decentralized_Maze]

As always..... fantastic job at reporting on these topics/issues. We appreciate you. - signed an EHS remediation and auditing professional

[@kcgunesq]

Cities need to update zoning to prohibit these facilities anywhere near any populations and food/water sources.

[@tedantares2751]

Right! Landfill sites are carefully selected so there is no contamination of groundwater. I doubt these recycling facilities were positioned the same way. I also doubt that the wind rose was taken into account because they are not supposed to burn, like EVs are not supposed to burn

[@m----]

Why is he barehanding the toxic black battery dust? 😂

[@StacheDTraining]

It's insane!

[@leechjim8023]

Third world shit!!!😱😱😱

[@antontsau]

its not toxic while dry. First-second group metal oxides, mixed with plastic and more neutral metals. Until it gets wet its just a dust, something like lime but with significant share of litium. Do not ingest or inhale it and its safe. But when it gets into water it creates bases, alcalines, able to poison fish and other life. Its very similar to kitchen fat cleaners, which cause severe chemical burns even on intact skin and completely destroy any soft tissues.

[@chrisward5626]

Lol it’s not toxic 🤦‍♂️

[@Johnfisher12345]

@antontsau “Not toxic” Your first paragraph is simply unhinged.

[@VintageLPs]

Please address in a future vlog how homeowners should store their numerous lithium batteries used to operate cordless yard maintenance tools. I have at least six LITHIUM batteries that are going to sit in my cold attached garage for the next six to eight months. They are not attached to the tools or in the battery chargers. Also, what do you think of my local landfill placing a wood pallet on the bare ground six feet from a plastics recycling container with a sign telling people to place their old lithium batteries on the wood pallet? We had a blizzard on Election Day and when I went to the landfill the following day, the LI batteries were wet, sitting in the open on the pallet, several makes and sizes, some inside the original items. (Fans? Unsure what the containers were.) Thank you!

[@Irilia_neko]

Inside a metal box at one meter of any construction. (Protected from any water Ingress and protected from the heat

[@iGame3D]

wet batteries are not a danger unless they are broken open.

[@KevinKimmich44024]

EVs are just another product requiring heavy industrial activity. They're not "green" at all of course.

[@chesterfinecat7588]

At least they can be powered by sprawling fields of glass, steel, barbed wire, and humming inverters that kill every living thing except weeds and weasels. It's energy from the sun. So natural.

[@tedantares2751]

Such facilities MUST have their own on-site fire departments. Why should taxpayers pay for extinguishing these fires? This would also make the response to fires much quicker.

[@scottbc31h22]

Good Idea. Not only would response time be much quicker, but the on sight dept. should be required to have specialized training and equipment to meet the specific needs of the materials they are handling. A lot of industries should be required this.

[@wisico640]

Like racetrack and aeroports

[@antontsau]

onsite fire brigade is not viable if it burns once in 1000 years. But! they must have prearrangement with local FB with participation in training and special equipment procurement, like any other high risk, hazmat, chemical and so on facility. Also they must have engineered measures like spill limiters, flow water deterrent basins, special water hydrants and so on, not just occupy some basement under residential house and handle faulty batteries there (yes, Poland) or process tons of active chemicals in shed in the middle of industrial area (like in this case).

[@Johnfisher12345]

@antontsau Another unhinged comment. This facility burns down every TWO years, not every thousand. Stop making excuses for bad tech.

[@antontsau]

@@Johnfisher12345 Not THIS facility. FacilitiES. If there are 1000 sites and big fire on one of them every 2 years - what is the average time between fires on any particular site? Learn math, it rules.

[@markh.6687]

That page-out delay of seven minutes after the 911 call is unbelievable. I did PD-FD-EMS dispatch; it never takes that long to do an initial page-out. By the time FD arrived 16 minutes after the 911 call, it's already a giant marshmallow roast. Somebody needs to investigate what happened at the 911 center.

[@m----]

Government need to pull Interco's license for recycling these batteries, clearly they are not experts or are cutting too many corners.

[@phprofYT]

Government? You mean the government pushing EVs? Wind and solar farms?

[@JoeyMills-y3v]

It's very possible there is no way to recycle these batteries both safely & economically.

[@Kiyoone]

I mean... A normal warehouse in a Rural area is not enough. They nedd specific facilities to recycle those. They are DEFINITELY cutting too many

[@MrBashem]

They were trying to turn a profit to get more free funding.

[@orbitalair2103]

NOTE: StacheD, the reports at 7:46 are NOT monitoring heavy metals like cobolt, nickel or hydrides. they are only measuring common, easily dispersed gasses, like o2? oxygen?

[@StacheDTraining]

Look at the rows for Dusttrak 2533. I believe that's what's looking at the particles in the air, and would pick up any metals. The lack of CO and VOC are also good indicators that there won't be any other hazards.

[@lancethrust9488]

MY CONCERN IS WERE WASTING SO MUCH LITHIUM ON USELESS CARS , LIKE HOW MANY PHONES OR LAPTOPS CAN BE CREATED FROM THE LITHIUM IN CAR BATTERY PACK COULD BE THOUSANDS , ALL THIS WASTED LITHIUM MAY HAVE POWERED SMALL DEVICES FOR 100S OF YEARS

[@Irilia_neko]

Phones are also a waste of lithium

[@iGame3D]

You don't have thousands of years. We will exceed 1.5C warming this year. 25 years ahead of schedule. Humanity has less that 150 years before extinction.

[@gerrychaput2569]

Why would a company handling known hazerdous materials not have an onsite emergency response team trained to deal with runaway situations like this one? If theres enough money being made to do the job then there is enough money to do it safely

[@wisico640]

The thing is there is no money yet. Like AI its a money pit for furture money. In which case the funding will cut pretty soon anyway I guess

[@iGame3D]

It has to be profitable to run a business.

[@phillyphil1513]

@@wisico640 re: "Like AI its a money pit for (future) money." also see entry from the Wiki Machine for GINORMOUS PONZI SCHEME (note, i personally added the "ginormous" part so you probably won't find it listed that way verbatim).

[@LoneStarMillennial]

Thank you for your professional analysis!

[@boblandwehr8222]

Knowing that any fire at a lithium ion battery facility will likely result in large amounts of water for cooling and/or extinguishing the fire why is there no front end engineering required for containment berms to prevent the toxic runoff from contaminating the ground water? Again, Great training information!

[@Irilia_neko]

Because this costs money, and they are here to take the maximum of money 🤑

[@oldgrumpus8523]

The chance of a single battery cell going rogue is perhaps 1 in 10 million. So put millions of cells on a single site and you have the near certainty of regular fires. So no surprise here.

[@paulosullivan3472]

I am going t make the prediction that they wont release any reports until enough time has passed that people are not speaking about this issue any more.

[@markb1764]

Should Interco not have their own fire control plan and not be as reliant on the public system as they would be very aware of the risks inherent in their processes

[@mart0225]

This type of disaster with the residual environmental impact are reasons why regulation is needed at that lithium battery recycling plants as well as refineries and drilling and mining operations.

[@iGame3D]

Sad that most of the country voted for anti-regulation Republicans. Some men just want to profit while the world burns.

[@randomvariable1836]

very well done video, both informative & professional

[@StacheDTraining]

Much appreciated!

[@danielboughton3624]

A lot of people here are focusing on EVs but I had a laptop catch fire on my desk while using it. My girlfriends phone caught fire while she was using it. Cordless tool batteries are also a pretty good source of fire. The general wisdom is don't charge them when you can't see them since that is when they are most likely to catch fire. The next most likely time is when they are packed into a drum on the way to a recycler. The weight compresses the batteries and a few bumps on the road don't help.

[@barbarahall6871]

The same place was in Illinois before they built it in Fredericktown , Missouri and it burnt I think three times in Illinois

[@phillyphil1513]

when you get time, post a link please so that we may all stay informed.

[@JennRogers-y6r]

I'm looking for it now

[@jamesmiller6834]

Great reporting. As a consumer, I learned a bunch. I store my cordless tools in a shed not attached to the home. I remove the batteries after use, and do not leave them while charging. Remove them from charger.

[@donbenjamin1102]

I really appreciate your channel, I always learn something.

[@MadMax351]

The Results on the fish should of been released by now, but the results are bad so we are trying to find ways to hide them or make them look less severe.

[@philliplopez8745]

Surfactants and fish do not mix .

[@77gravity]

Company spokeperson "nah bro, our massive fire full of heavy metals, nasty chemicals, and lethal toxins doesn't have anything to do with the fish kill straight after, it's total co-incidence bro, trust me"

[@AllSeeingHeart]

Foam parties in Cancun were fun. Lions and tigers and dead fish, oh my! Strength! GODspeed!

[@markcoveryourassets]

A chicken in every pot, an EV in every garage, and a pile of lithium ion batteries buried in every backyard.

[@Soundbrigade]

And just a few months ago a similar facility burned down in the city of Trollhättan, Sweden. This is the second time the recycling plant had issues with a fire. Of course the public is to blame as they don't cover the end poles of used Li-Ion batteries with tape ... "On Sunday, a fire started in an industrial area in Trollhättan and a VMA (an important text message sent to all residents in the subjected area) was issued for people to keep doors and windows closed and not inhale the dangerous smoke from the lithium batteries. It is the second time this year that the same recycling center has caught fire. - I am not at all surprised that what happened happened yesterday, says battery expert Christer Andersson."

[@pchelloo]

That black dust must be safe; just look at the person who is handling it without any PPE. Probably adds a little pinch to his/her BLT sandwich at lunchtime too.

[@SuperBartet]

What annoys me about all the lithium battery factory fires that I read about is that they build the factories in residential areas, or if not they then build residential property around them.

[@Bob-cx4ze]

If that's "green", we might want to double-check that's what we want.

[@andyspark5192]

It would be interesting to see stats on recycling facilities fires before lithium batteries became a thing.

[@jamessheets9205]

Im originally from Frdericktown. I was told that there are mine shafts everywhere under the city and surrounding areas. This area was a huge mining location in the 1800s and early 1900s. I'm pretty sure it was considered part of the lead belt but may be wrong about that. Lead and later cobalt were mined here. Unfortunately I fear the effects of this will be felt for years to come. No telling how long the ground water will be contaminated if it sits stagnant in the underground shafts.

[@johnsmit5999]

Does the general public even know how to dispose of these batteries? I see AA lithium batteries for sale with no special warnings.

[@Aprilsraven629]

Ok so what about the affects these highly toxic fires have on the fire fighters...the carcinogenic properties would be extremely high...a study must be conducted to evaluate the risk factors and measures must be put in place to reduce the impact on fire fighters health today and into the future, as its well known in the industry exposure does cause various types of cancer

[@mattc.310]

How long until these processes are offshored? The need to bring water in from across railroad tracks calls into question the planning process. Perhaps planners should consider adequate firefighting resources for a given facility's occupancy.

[@mobius4897]

Thank you for the info

[@novacat3032]

in germany some kinds of companys (chemical plants / refineries / airports / plants that make explosives) with hightend or special fire risks are requiered by law to have a fire department on site of their own "Werksfeuerwehr" is the german term... part of their setup is a bunch of firefighters that will act as liason / guide to fire departments that are not used to their special kind of fire in case a major incident draws in support from fire departments from farther away but it looks to me like all fire departments will have to invest into equippment to avoid used water to run off into the envoirment for fires like these... and such plants will need to be build to support these efforts or any fire in such plants will spoil wide areas for a very long time i do wonder if black matter gets washed away... it won't degrade naturally so it might be worse than the problems at sites like Thernobyl or Fukushima which will become safe in a couple of thousend years even if nobody does anything

[@deezelfairy]

Just to add some balance and im not particularly an EV fan but 'bio degradable' doesnt translate to non toxic to the environment - especially in the short term. It means it'll break down into non toxic constituents in time and doesnt persist in the environment but bio degradable substances can still be acutely toxic. Firefighting foam *potentially* could be the cause of the fish deaths.

[@diydantex6150]

You talkied about foam fire suppression systems. Does foam work on lithium-ion battery fires. I heard that they generate their own oxygen during thermal runaway.

[@StacheDTraining]

You are correct. Foam doesn't do anything.

[@Kiyoone]

Those people need to be held accountable

[@texmex124]

How did that plant come into existence without extra safety protocol in place!! The plant should’ve been required to have means of putting out a fire if it occurred. Example water accessibility, public safety. and an on-site fire department. Lithium batteries is a whole other animal when it comes to fires. 7:20 . Burn hotter, longer, and more toxic 7:20

[@robertgreen9614]

Watch his other video on this fire. The plant had 24/7 fire monitoring and video surveillance, as well as a "state of the art" fire suppression system.

[@texmex124]

@ still inadequate suppression system

[@robertgreen9614]

@@texmex124 Sort of indicates "the fire suppression technology isn't available to mitigate the risk" doesn't it? That's what State Farm said when they decided to remove all EV chargers from their business premises as well.

[@Zacccc-m8p]

Is the area that has been poisoned overlap the map of lithium mine?

[@sammyjimsmith6100]

Remember asbestos, banned. Well these batteries will need to banned in EV s. Remember when you could call a wrecker to tow away your old jalopy to the scrapyard for free for the metal value. In ten years it will cost at least 15 to 20 thousand to get rid of your EV jalopy.

[@chrisward5626]

Lol what 🤦‍♂️ ? EVs are full of expensive metals that easy to recycle . Still worth heaps even as scrap .

[@michaelf6232]

Half of the material used in EVs is plastic of some sort.

[@chrisward5626]

@ lol so no copper no cobalt no lithium ? Yeh nothing worth recycling just plastic 😆😂

[@alexalex13131]

When all cars are EVs the daily catastrophes in tunnels, parking garages, houses, everywhere will tell us for sure if lithium batteries can be harmful.

[@mikezaq1]

I'm a bit of an expert on fish and when they float on their back like that and don't just die straight away that can be a sign of the PH in the water being off I'm guessing the mixing of water and lithium metal created a large amount of lithium hydroxide that flowed down into that creek.

[@philwood9760]

There was a fire in a impound lot in Lithonia/Dekalb county believed to be caused by an electric vehicle that burned 96 other vehicles along with it.

[@iGame3D]

Sounds like massive insurance fraud.

[@phillyphil1513]

when you get time, post a link please so that we may all stay informed.

[@mikeclark9965]

I wonder who the property and biz interruption provider would allow this type of construction… ie no fire water near by??? This is the blind leading the blind with this technology

[@ccc530]

It appears obvious they need to have some significant containment measures around these facilities.

[@viskovandermerwe3947]

Has anyone ever thought of contacting Erin Brockovich to find a good lawyer?

[@tigertiger1699]

All for net zero.. this nuts

[@jsuperman7672]

I heard in Detroit, that the Fire Department has responded quit a bit to G.M. and the area they store the Electric car batteries, and just sitting there they have issues. and also down in the Corvette plant, they have had an E-Ray catch fire on the assembly line, that caused minor damage. So my question is, on these small, to medium fires, Can't we use a Class D Fire Extinguisher , Has anyone tested that yet.? My Chief thinks I'm crazy and it won't work. ok well lets try 6% foam. yes I know its a long shot. My other theory is old school ARFF style, Dry Chem, into a 1/4 fog stream and blanket the fire. if its small enough.

[@chrispinard5922]

The class D will not do anything to lithium, it just makes a bigger mess! It's fine for other combustible metals like magnesium.

[@antontsau]

lithium battery contains not just metal, but oxidiser too. Much worse than magnesium fire.

[@paulphotios3920]

Fire call out times mean very little in a complex chemical fire. Specialised Fire units located on site manned by appropriately trained employees may be the way the have to go at company expense. Depends If there is any way of controlling and extinguishing such a fire. Do not blame the local fire units. It is a bit like handling a magnesium fire where you cannot put it out but cool and protect other assets whist waiting for it to burn out.

[@curtisscott9251]

Let me guess: Halon fire suppression is outlawed in that state...

[@tedantares2751]

Elon, do you call it "green"?

[@jamestone265]

Because it pays him in “greenbacks”

[@iGame3D]

He bought Twitter and the 2024 election with it.

[@dorjedriftwood2731]

Finally people will talk about the grave environmental damage caused by electric vehicles.

[@kcgunesq]

The company should have been advised to simply say nothing about the fish kill other than "we will wait for the investigation before commenting further". It will be very obvious once water and tissue sample tests are complete as to the likely source.

[@Cosmo-t9k]

EPA NEEDS TO BAN THESE HAZARDOUS WASTE NIGHTMARE BATTERIES

[@ForbiddenMagic]

Surprised they put everything in one big building instead breaking the operaton up into smaller isolated buildings something like they do with fireworks manufacturing

[@iGame3D]

You risk water contacting the material between buildings and boom! Fire!

[@kurtiswa-k-8346]

Seems like "fire" is the most effective way to recycle batteries....

[@erocoptics5642]

It's not just car batteries. It's just regular batteries. There's gotta be a better way.

[@phillyphil1513]

1:10 - like the torched hull of the Felicity Ace (Feb 16, 2022) "leaching out" as it sits beneath 12,000 ft of water of the coast of the Azores, RIP the "fishies". while preventing the loss of any First Responders to these events certainly ranks as #1, for those who like to relax with Fishing (for both Sport and Food) preventing damage to the underlying Ecosystem and loss of related wildlife to these events likely ranks as #2. my grilled Salmon tastes good but NOT when it has that "funny metallic taste", and unfortunately i don't have any marinade recipes that can hide the "overtones" of heavy metals.😭

[@JaniceVineyard-kf6wm]

Governments need to stop damaging these small poor towns.

[@lindastevens6861]

In UK it’s impossible to park these cars away from homes😢

[@AlOh-2]

The water sprayed on the fire mixed with the chemicals. The chemical rich water naturally flowed into the river.

[@cherylm2C6671]

Bad actors? They are incredibly close to residential zones and someone went home after breathing that stuff. And that relatively new facility in Riverside, sprinklers with water- ?

[@AntisocialRedNeckNerd]

Occam’s Razor would suggest that the most likely reason for the fish deaths is runoff from toxic chemicals from the lithium ion batter fire.

[@mikeberthold1593]

And stellantis wants to build a battery plant in Belvidere Illinois... oh boy!!!

[@Patty-qy8qh]

Isn't it a thing in the US that you are obligated to have your own company fire department on site if you are working with high fire hazard, fancy chemicals and you are that big of a company? No regular fire department can be properly prepared for such a blaze

[@erikhaack4123]

There is currently another lithium battery warehouse fire in Moreno valley Ca. Not a coincidence at all.😳😳😳

[@iGame3D]

49.1% voted Republican, they don't like regulations there, let 'em eat smoke.

[@lawrence18uk]

With lithium ion batteries we need a "Zero fire tolerance" policy.... I wonder what the States' attitudes to this would be, let alone the President's...

[@TechnoMagi-h4r]

Lithium being prepared for making Batteries is amazingly sensitive to electrical charge even Static can couse it to Explode...

[@claytomgraham4680]

When lithium batteries catch fire, the water that is used is contaminated and the run off goes into the grown water ,when is this going to be taken care of ,when there is a gas or diesel spill this is usually well taken care of, why isn't this mentioned

[@Core-vu6mc]

The company has some nerve. They should force them to hire and maintain their own fire fighting staff.

[@frankblangeard8865]

I wonder how their insurance company is viewing this. Or do they have insurance?

[@jonathanlanglois2742]

Honestly, old lithium batteries should probably be treated the same way that explosives are, meaning that there should only be a small quantity in any building, that the processing and storage should be spread across several buildings with an exclusion zone around them. Old batteries are much more likely to short, especially when they are being taken appart to be recycled.

[@306champion]

I find it very hard to believe that a fire dep' would use foam on such a fire as it cant be smothered because it creates it's own oxygen.

[@greengooflight]

"Black Mass" sounds like an occult celebration

[@randomconstructions4513]

Hearing fire, a halogen, and fish dying off near enough to each other makes my brain index spit out acid being the probable cause. Since burning batteries release HF I assume that would be the source. The bigger issue is that there are a bunch of much worse chemicals coming off a battery fire that are going to have less immediately noticeable effects. Regardless, the fish struggling to breath in that clip is freaky.

[@cupwalker24.7]

All I Do pretty much now days is go around the United States and protect the Ground water from tons of Battery Fires. Especially if A triple F was used or (PFASS)...some of the Most contaminated Aquifers now because of batteries . Very complex stuff .

[@Mike-01234]

What about all the tire recycling yards that catch fire at least 20 of those in the last 5 years they burn for days.

[@iGame3D]

What about-isms don't help or address the issue at hand.

[@deniswauchope3788]

These lithium batteries are really beginning to show their danger. Perhaps Elon Musk can come to the rescue: the best place to recycle these dangerous & toxic materials would be in outer space, where mishaps & sudden conflagrations won't destroy our environment here on Earth!

[@sammyjimsmith6100]

The wokers will not let u destroy outer space. How dare u, as watsername would say.

[@tedantares2751]

No, he wants to mine lithium on asteroids and bring it to Earth to make more BEVs!

[@iGame3D]

Yeah, cause a MASSIVE explosion, that rips a whole in the ozne layer and leaves tremendous amounts of PFAS forever chemicals in the atmopshere, to depost BILLIONS of tons of material in space. You freakni' geniuses...You're an adult thinking about things in the same scope I was when I was 7 years old.

[@Greymannn]

Is the water safe to drink like the water was in East Palestine?

[@AdrianFahrenheitTepes]

I wouldn’t

[@kktmg]

The person handling the black mass using bare hands is absolutely bonkers!

[@MrTheHillfolk]

Why didnt they just put the town in one of those dunk tanks to put the fire out?

[@thexfile.]

The mean clean dream.