3 Heavy Loadouts to STOMP Season 5

[@anomalousmaterialsmusic]

The pyro grenade hate is unreal. It may not do a lot for eliminations by itself but it is very useful for area control, destroying goo or gas, or causing chaos on moving platforms.

[@s2wuolf508]

The only time I feel pressured by fire is mostly when I play light tbh

[@sure1fire]

erm.... who's gonna tell him guys

[@anomalousmaterialsmusic]

@ Go ahead and tell me

[@bloodycheeseinsidemyass]

​@@sure1fire"erm" 💀

[@zero1487]

Compared to what you could be getting out of using other gadgets to help the team, pyro nade is pretty underwhelming. Using a pyro nade doesn’t outright mean you’re bad at the game, but it’s a decent sign that you’re not that good cuz you must not have realized how much better other gadgets are. Of course this is all subjective so you do you man. Appoh is talking from a top 100 player perspective so he’s kinda talking about what works best at that level.

[@SomeGuy-qd3li]

Goo gun is cool because of how much it relies on your mastery and skill, to the point where i think it is effective with pretty much any weapon. Ive had a sledge goo gun carry me in ranked to victory, and he managed to drop 40 kills

[@AT-og6rk]

me and the boys shak ing each other

[@psilo5623]

10:00 Ive been maining goo gun since S3, trust me when i say barricade pick on goo gun is a pure meme pick and complete anti synergy. -Any thing you could ever do with barri, you can do with goo. -barricade + goo gun is the first thing i tried as a replacement to the barricade nerf, ive played the build you showcased for ~100 hours (though without the grav cube) Then I realised... -You can create headglitches with 2 well placed goo blobs anywhere, anytime, for free. zero need for barri. Also the headglitch you get with a goo + barri is kinda garbage, unlike the pure goo headglitch, which shows much less of your head and is adjustable in height for any situation. -Also Dome shield is a must on any heavy, so barri pick is an extremely expensive tradeoff

[@imrnp]

we need goo gun full tutorial

[@thenamestobi]

Goo gun heavies never fully give the loadout up. We're playing a whole different game than most players at times.

[@Robin007George]

My W loadout is as follows - remember- this will test ur patience and ur opponent - u will see why Charge slam Mesh (if ur are pro in it - I rarely use specials anyways) Spear Lockbolt 💙 Barricade (goo grenade if u know opponents doesn't have pyro items) Pyro mines (pls put mines on ur dead opponents and act like u are running away - but camp the body in a spot which their pending live team > can't see u coming) When u are being beemed from far away make a barricade wall - just stay put - if they nade and u are damaged - just run away and come back after ur health regens - there is no need to be aggressive Let them make first move - when they come near u - lockbolt those idiots and just left click if they are one man pushing or right click if its two or more

[@KianFloppa]

W but Embark devs need to add FSR 3.1.3 upscaling for AMD and Intel users

[@defrance2728]

For sure

[@kartoffelbrei310]

Fr Fr ong

[@HyperboreanPC]

Hello Floppa

[@theodopholous6407]

Every finals video? Seriously? Give it a rest. 🙄

[@xux6317]

​@@HyperboreanPCITS YOU!!!!!

[@tygogo24]

Cl-40 counters goo hard i will never stop preaching the utility that primary provides

[@MrGerbil_]

Do you have a video on the best loadouts for solo-queue ranked players?

[@fakename8203]

how do you decide on which vods to review?

[@salami2624]

I feel as if charge n slam is overrated in low elo but underrated in high elo because everyone brushes it off as some low skill thing that isn’t very useful but I think that’s just because it is mainly used by bad players. It is actually quite useful in many ways especially if you can open a fight by having your medium pad you up and you combine rpg and the slam on top of the team, I also find that playing for time is good as well because you can play for drop with c4 but you can also play a little off site behind multiple walls and wait for steal then break through knock the stealer off and you can often get away within the same dash especially in a double cashout scenario. Also the bad players I feel just instantly do a full charge and just get beamed and they don’t realize that getting the initial bump and then canceling is often more beneficial. You could be low hp and in a 1v1 against someone full hp and instantly turn it your way if you get the initial 130 cancel and then shoot them or shoot them a little and then charge for kill.

[@salami2624]

It also pairs really well with a medium with a model and highly aggressively play and sorry if my comment is hard to read i just gave up on punctuation as I could tell it was going to be a long comment

[@salami2624]

For example at 2:20 that is a perfect scenario for what I mentioned in regards to opening a fight if you had charge and slam you would’ve instantly gotten 2 kills and possibly knocked their heavy off the map but they definitely would’ve gotten wiped immediately

[@salami2624]

And at 9:41 is an example of someone that was in a bad situation health wise for a 1v1 but if he cancelled the charge after the initial hit instead of doing a full charge and slam and disorienting himself he would have had a much better change of winning that, though he likely would have lost anyway as you were a heavy and he was just too low but it would have been close

[@Ares78987]

Charge and slam is amazing for silver gold and plat. I like Appoh but man he is out of touch

[@salami2624]

@@Ares78987 Well I’m talking about use cases plat and up where it isn’t seen as much but all it takes is some mastery and a little thought and it can be used at all levels of play

[@FergusIversen]

No Deagles?

[@ohmsford94]

3th build has it

[@Ares78987]

You are a bit out of touch my guy. For the average player and builk of the community in silver gold and plat - charge and slam is absolutely the meta and perfect for games. Sometimes I wonder if you have talked to any players that aren’t ruby or diamond…

[@deflectnya]

If it’s something that works at top500 then it works at all ranks C&S isn’t that great it’s annoying at best compared to other specializations

[@Str82thegrave]

Charge n Slam, MGL, Pyro mine, rpg, explosive mine >>>>>>>>>> 😎

[@adonis6475]

Imagine playing finals and seeing bed wars ahh build around cashout

[@Quest4Tube]

Thanks!

[@JettJohnson-pr4qz]

Heavy on Finals lessggooo

[@timbucktoo7547]

No deagles?

[@Cooliewhistles]

They aren’t good

[@paulkapp7238]

As a flamethrower main i am disappointed that i have to accept the reality of using an ineffective playstyle 😂😅

[@porterogden6065]

just play it w mesh look up whysatanwhy

[@PreownedBrush]

I’ve always known flamethrower is probably c tier, I still use it and figure out strategies to play around it because it’s so fun

[@BlueFireTempest]

Same, every time I hop in the arena I understand that I am quite literally handicapped myself and my team. But If I play smart and synergize with my teammates, we can make some damn good plays. (Buff Flamethrower range)

[@guillaume_Chr]

Do you think adding secondary weapon could be a good thing for the game ?

[@timjones5429]

Personally I don't think so because if they added a pistol, everyone would just use a shotgun for close range and pistol for medium/long range. Cool concept but it kind of makes using a load out suited to the gun you're using a bit irrelevant. Just my opinion but hope it helps.

[@zero1487]

No

[@MADOYS]

top 3 heavy builds for maximum rank gains (using science) Thanks Jeff

[@Im_uyy]

but if i use goo my team thinks im selling.. ig they want me to charge at a full team instead idk

[@nickr3526]

Bro did not have to throw that pyro grenade shame 😂😂 totally unnecessary

[@thebapslaps]

The Finals players when the obj is to stfu about FSR 3.1.3. (They lose every time)

[@JeremyRuiz805]

common W Appoh video

[@Ares78987]

Appoh has been playing in full squads in diamond and ruby too long lol his videos are becoming more and more out of touch for people that solo queue or play with one other. Many people don’t have comms or ping… Appoh is like a millionaire that owns a yacht telling the average person that a speed boat is what average people buy to go fishing.

[@shahshank]

Hah! Why the hate on pyro grenade? Pyro is great for stalls or defense. You can throw pyro at the ceiling to affect stuff on the floor above. Or people who are trying to run away ans you don't have rpg

[@carterwalters5915]

Some commenting about Appoh being out of touch. If this is commentary about good loadouts, strats for high elo, then shouldn't we be aiming for that? Use a higher tier strat, learn it, and work towards becoming higher tier.

[@D0P3ST]

GOOners rise up! True Deagle heads know.

[@samr8693]

I've been waiting 🎉

[@Ares78987]

You are a bit out of touch my guy. For the average player and builk of the community in silver gold and plat - charge and slam is absolutely the meta and perfect for games. Sometimes I wonder if you have talked to any players that aren’t ruby or diamond… Barricade is also ok but not AMAZING just like the c4. Many people run duos or solo queue and the proximity is ran on most great teams by a heavy or goo instead of barricade. I feel like the more videos you make the less you know what the meta is for the vast majority of players that don’t run in a full squad. Proximity is one gadget that’s amazing since prople don’t ping or call things out. I’d suggest you do polls or ask members of your community what their rank and stats are and what is working and the meta… Reminds me of a millionaire telling the middle class that a Tesla is a good mid range car for the average person when people scratch their heads wondering what the fuck youre talking about.

[@GnashTastic]

Well I mean what you said is not describing what the concept of a meta is in all fairness; if something is optimal and it is used prevalently by ruby and diamond players, then that is pushing the game at its current state to its boundaries, and that is backed up by the fact that ruby/diamond players play the game much more, so naturally of course they know what works and what doesn’t. If there were such a thing as “mid-tier meta” then all of those players would be ruby and diamond, not in the middle. There can be no tiers of metas because there is only one set of things to run that is the best in a given typical comp setting with the aim of getting the most value per gadget that compliments the rest of your team, maximizing the damage-output/mindgames/defense depending on the situation. I mean also your analogy wasn’t even fair, you are acting like the same gadgets and loadouts are not available to players in the middle. If I were to use the logic of your analogy, I could say something like “high school chemistry students learn all the time and are accomplishing great things in the classroom. But then those who have chemistry as a career? Nah man they dedicate more time to it so they must think they are hot stuff.” You would never compare these two groups of people in a derogatory way because they are simply at different levels of knowledge and experience, and the focus(at least on this channel), is to help you get better at the game like it would be in the education realm to help those high school students become more versed in chemistry. What you are describing is just what is popular to use in those levels of play simply because those players are not aware of the best thing to run or do, so it becomes common consensus that this thing over here is optimal just because you’re getting results, when really you’re just capitalizing off of people’s ignorance. That means there is a whole other dimension of application of knowledge of the gadgets that remains untapped if you have this view, and that is what high-competitive play is, that is what the meta is. High level players are not better as people than casual players, they just have more knowledge of the game. And sure there are problems like solo q’ing and what to do in that situation, so the only caveat I can see is that Appoh could have titled this video more appropriately, like specifying that his videos are geared more toward people who queue together, play ranked, and want to become students essentially. But there’s that question of what the meta is and when you discuss that, you have to talk primarily about the competitive scene and inevitably it becomes an issue of skill rather than just claiming someone is out of touch. and I don’t mean to offend or cause strife because I can see your frustration man, really, but don’t disrespect Appoh by coming on here and cussing him out just because you think he think’s he’s better than you just because he’s a high rank. He literally is offering to coach players who want to get to that skill level and play at a high level, hence the discord, hence the creation of this video. Let’s all just get better at the game how about, and that is what Appoh is offering here

[@ToastedBuns-YT]

Appoh as much as i would love to be coached, im too broke( this is not pity, just positive feed back on your coaching, but letting you know that i am not a customer unfortunately)

[@Two.Wieners]

awooga

[@BIGTOYSfps]

The goat!

[@GoferON144hz]

trash game check

[@DarkGinger124]

Wrong

[@JettJohnson-pr4qz]

Ratio

[@peen5290]

Rage bait ass comment

[@wifiwebtorso6405]

Trash comment check

[@wifiwebtorso6405]

Your opinion is garbage check