3 LDS chapels burned in the St. George Area.

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Dave Bartosiewicz

Dave Bartosiewicz

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@debc7741
@debc7741 3 жыл бұрын
I’m LDS and I love my fellow Christians of other faiths. Thank you for speaking in our defense and the right of all Christians to be able to worship our Savior. We have a lot more in common than we realize. Several years ago in our area the LDS church donated money and labor to help the Methodists build a much needed, large church building to worship in. I believe everyone who participated no matter their denomination was blessed.
@sandeakilpatrick2386
@sandeakilpatrick2386 3 жыл бұрын
Such good words. Thank you. Hate is always wrong, love is always the answer.
@stewartritchey7602
@stewartritchey7602 3 жыл бұрын
I admire you for following what Christ taught all of us.
@joywhidbey1704
@joywhidbey1704 3 жыл бұрын
I’m not LDS but burning houses of worship is WRONG!! I hope they find the arsonist & prosecute them to the fullest.
@biknjak
@biknjak 3 жыл бұрын
Joy, I live in Utah and have been following this story. Saint George PD arrested Benjamin James Johnson after getting called about the fires. Johnson was seen running out of one of the smoking chapels and after leading them on a chase, fought with them when arrested. He referred to himself as "Joshua" and a "diety", and said he had acted out of "righteous anger". The creepy part is he was spewing some of the same rhetoric that some of these posters are apparently fond of. Yikes.
@fukenbiker
@fukenbiker 3 жыл бұрын
@@biknjak dang. Now I have to read all the comments to see what "rhetoric".
@biknjak
@biknjak 3 жыл бұрын
@@fukenbiker Hey Dave. Maybe "rhetoric" was a little strong, but definitely lots of unkind sentiment bordering on anti-mormon rhetoric. I'm a disfellowshipped LDS member myself, but have always felt that if you don't agree with a religion or organization, then seek elsewhere. Unkind and mean-spirited words generally don't win people over.
@fukenbiker
@fukenbiker 3 жыл бұрын
@@biknjak I read all the comments and I see who you were talking about. Nice to see most comments condemn the arson. I was going to confront him, but decided stay out of it.
@biknjak
@biknjak 3 жыл бұрын
@@fukenbiker yep, I had the same reaction. After reading gobs of defenders' valiant comments, I realized he is the type of person that's itching for a fight more than he is the truth, and has to always get the last word in. I guess in his mind that makes him the winner. Years ago I went on an LDS mission, and learned that heated religious arguments (we called them Bible bashes) get nowhere, and in the end usually cause hard feelings. That's why I said in one of my comments that I believe religion is a tricky subject, because no one can actually "prove" anything. It seems to me that sometimes religion keeps good people aimed in a good direction, and sometimes religion drives men mad.
@crisisoffaithministries5434
@crisisoffaithministries5434 3 жыл бұрын
I am a former member and disagree vehemently with the doctrine but this should never happen. People need to grow up
@slowhypno
@slowhypno 3 жыл бұрын
Not the first time. In 1905 the LDS chapel was burned on Harkers Island North Carolina. This started 35 years of meeting in homes. The church has been rebuilt and thrives today. Every time persecution raises its ugly head the gospel grows.
@johnperry1645
@johnperry1645 3 жыл бұрын
I know we disagree on a lot of stuff - but I would definitely say the same for you! Thank you!
@barbaralarkins756
@barbaralarkins756 3 жыл бұрын
So very sad that God's Church's are being burnt. I'm a member and all church's not just LDS Church's are houses of God's.
@lauriesmith3443
@lauriesmith3443 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this. I am a member of the church and have friends in St. George. It is time for ALL good people to pull together. We all love Christ.
@ddfstar7588
@ddfstar7588 3 жыл бұрын
As a member of the LDS church I thank you Christian brothers for the kindness.
@may-kq8tj
@may-kq8tj 3 жыл бұрын
Technically you're not a Christian, neither am I but you're not Christian.
@ddfstar7588
@ddfstar7588 3 жыл бұрын
@@may-kq8tj I am.
@taggsimmons4582
@taggsimmons4582 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, kindness like this is an attribute that I strive to have. A big thank you to all who feel the same way.
@may-kq8tj
@may-kq8tj 3 жыл бұрын
@@ddfstar7588 No you're not, you consider the b.o.m to be more true then the bible because you consider the bible to be corrupted by man and so the b.o.m is the higher truth. This is not only not Christian but factually false.
@mikeonthecomputer
@mikeonthecomputer 3 жыл бұрын
@@may-kq8tj It's funny when people profess to tell us what we believe :) Articles of Faith 1:8 We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God. One document does not hold superiority over the other. They work hand-in-hand and we use both of them equally.
@AndrielleHillis
@AndrielleHillis 3 жыл бұрын
This is absolutely not okay! Even though I left about 20 years ago, I still respect the church. God bless the people of St. George!
@sheilaedmond1498
@sheilaedmond1498 3 жыл бұрын
Come back! We need you! 💛
@EveryoneIsEqual101
@EveryoneIsEqual101 3 жыл бұрын
Not happy nor into that religion but exactly what he said. People have the right to worship.
@ladyseshiiria
@ladyseshiiria 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad there a decent people still out there willing to stick up for us. I had a couple of atheist's stick up for me recently during the covid grocery raids. Contrary to belief not all lds folk have the ability to have food storage. And we were just buying necessities and not hoarding. It was nice to feel like someone out there has my back. It will never go unnoticed and it will always be appreciated.
@ThePaulyd101
@ThePaulyd101 3 жыл бұрын
Atheists? Or non Mormons ..?
@pulusiafiliaga8944
@pulusiafiliaga8944 3 жыл бұрын
U know what..? Who ever that's responsible for this dumped and stupid criminal act will be judged in the last Days.. yep! " And, U can take that to the Bank!!" Yeah, who ever it is.. will probably gonna need a suntan lotion.. because it's burning and super warm in HELL!! Hehehe 😈🤣
@pulusiafiliaga8944
@pulusiafiliaga8944 3 жыл бұрын
God is watching 👀YOU !! Yep!!
@DavidHansen1
@DavidHansen1 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThePaulyd101 Does that matter?
@heidimisfeldt5685
@heidimisfeldt5685 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThePaulyd101 Does that matter at all ??? Good people exist anywhere, and so do people that make bad choices. No need to label anyone.
@suefredbzb
@suefredbzb 3 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more with Dave. I was a Mormon in my teens, feel like those wonderful people saw our family through a rough time. Can't really agree doctrinally anymore, but only good memories of my time with them. I'm 72 now, and the thought that came to me when I saw this clip was a line from one of their wonderful hymns, "How blessed the day when the lamb and the lion shall lie down together without any ire." (Hymn is The Spirit of God Like a Fire is Burning). A few years ago, Mormon missionaries came to my door. When they asked if they could do anything for me, I said, "Could you possibly get me a hymnal?" And they did!
@whiterabbit-wo7hw
@whiterabbit-wo7hw 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints, thank you for your thoughts on this. I love that hymn. You're a good person sir.
@kathibergquist6742
@kathibergquist6742 3 жыл бұрын
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@samuelpike1248
@samuelpike1248 2 жыл бұрын
That's a cool story Susan
@sheilaedmond1498
@sheilaedmond1498 2 жыл бұрын
That's one of my favorite hymns!
@sharonflay1593
@sharonflay1593 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I'm with you on that one Dave 💯 I am a LDS christian. Thanks for letting me know what happened, 💙 From Australia, Queensland
@edwardkasubi1332
@edwardkasubi1332 3 жыл бұрын
hello Sharon how is you ? Your name same to my Mothers name
@edwardkasubi1332
@edwardkasubi1332 3 жыл бұрын
how in Australia one day l will visit your country my lovely sister am also a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints " lds "
@sharonflay1593
@sharonflay1593 3 жыл бұрын
@@edwardkasubi1332 hi Edward.thats nice to know what your mother name is,I was named after my sister that had died with a hole in her ❤️ so I am truly grateful for that;
@sharonflay1593
@sharonflay1593 3 жыл бұрын
@@Raze120 thanks we need all prayers for our chapels 💯 💟💙
@cathrinbantjes6870
@cathrinbantjes6870 3 жыл бұрын
The home of the brave and the land of the free ?? What's happening to America 😞
@marceasusanna7749
@marceasusanna7749 3 жыл бұрын
Satan's in charge and he's getting stronger the end is coming
@cathrinbantjes6870
@cathrinbantjes6870 3 жыл бұрын
@@marceasusanna7749 Susanna .. satan is ONLY in charge of those who give him power. The God of Israel is in charge ... and when He shows His hand .. everyone will know it !!
@everingtonmbuyisa8189
@everingtonmbuyisa8189 3 жыл бұрын
If you don't agree with the teachings of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, stay away from the church. The surprising thing is that gays and lesbians want their rights respected, but they don't want to respect other people's rights of choice. Respect other people whose beliefs are different from yours
@scottbrandon9390
@scottbrandon9390 3 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of post 911. My city had a Hindu temple burned to the ground, mainly because the knobs could not figure out the difference between a Hindu Temple and a Muslim Mosque. My stake president opened the stake center for full use by the Hindu temple congregation for a two year period and even contributed money to help re-build the Hindu temple.
@may-kq8tj
@may-kq8tj 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah but you forgot that the church sees all other religions as beneath theirs.
@MichaelJones-ke6fy
@MichaelJones-ke6fy 3 жыл бұрын
@@may-kq8tj So says you. By their fruits you will know them and I think we have some really good looking fruit on our branches. I am just so incredibly grateful that the Lord has taught us about love and that we do love. Your religion does not matter when you need help. We will be there.
@may-kq8tj
@may-kq8tj 3 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelJones-ke6fy so says me? Smith literally called all other religions abominations, you only want to help people to convert them to your cause.
@may-kq8tj
@may-kq8tj 3 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelJones-ke6fy your good fruit is tainted by the suicides of those who believe they have sinned through masterbation, homosexuality and the outright lies and cover ups of the church.
@MichaelJones-ke6fy
@MichaelJones-ke6fy 3 жыл бұрын
@@may-kq8tj You know, it saddens me to realise how true the scriptures are. Judge not based on what others have said to you. Investigate it for yourself. The scriptures speak of immoral behaviour and if the Church teaches against immoral behaviour and you have a problem with that, can I assume you have a problem with morality no matter who teaches it?
@sunnivalindekleiv2230
@sunnivalindekleiv2230 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this ! Let us all seek to be better disciples of Jesus Christ.
@CareTaker2010
@CareTaker2010 3 жыл бұрын
Well Said I was LDS for 20 years, your right they think a little different but by and large are Good people. I hope the police can get to the bottom of this.
@biknjak
@biknjak 3 жыл бұрын
Yep. Saint George PD arrested Benjamin James Johnson after basically catching him red handed. He claimed to be a "diety" and acting out of "righteous anger". Sounds like some of the posts I've been reading here....
@KnuttyEntertainment
@KnuttyEntertainment 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for standing up for us, the gesture won’t go unnoticed.
@alananat6628
@alananat6628 3 жыл бұрын
When did you stand up for the marginalized in the church? Did victims go unnoticed?
@rogerwelles5707
@rogerwelles5707 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@barbieblue2213
@barbieblue2213 3 жыл бұрын
I am so sorry! I will pray Psalms 91God Blessings to all LDS! I also noticed Catholics are having their church burned down too especially in Canada! I believe it is end times !
@wellsaidgoodheadfred9843
@wellsaidgoodheadfred9843 3 жыл бұрын
Nope. Churches burning down is the end times? End times of what , the dark ages? Screw your fantasy that steps on people’s fantasy’s.
@wellsaidgoodheadfred9843
@wellsaidgoodheadfred9843 3 жыл бұрын
Screw your fantasy that steps on people’s reality*. Let’s ban religion already. Please and thank you.
@wellsaidgoodheadfred9843
@wellsaidgoodheadfred9843 3 жыл бұрын
If people like Holland didn’t exist religion might be okay, but most religion nowadays are full of toxic people who like to step on others. All you religious people need to listen to ‘which way are you going’ by Jim Croce and think about how it applies to you.
@marceasusanna7749
@marceasusanna7749 3 жыл бұрын
You must be right it is the end coming
@philipjensen1429
@philipjensen1429 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for Your words of wisdom it’s nice to see their sound reasonable and decent people around thank you
@myeyepie
@myeyepie 3 жыл бұрын
props for standing up for civility and freedom of religion. Eve though we disagree, on religion we can agree on this point. All religions should have the freedom to worship.
@wellsaidgoodheadfred9843
@wellsaidgoodheadfred9843 3 жыл бұрын
This is a reaction to Jeffrey r Holland’s anti-gay musket talk, in which Holland provokes arrogant bigotry
@stacygodnick3887
@stacygodnick3887 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, trying to justify vandalism because you don't like what he said is asinine and shows unbelievable ignorance!
@myeyepie
@myeyepie 3 жыл бұрын
@@wellsaidgoodheadfred9843 Holland provoked nothing. Your hatred and bigotry are showing. Did you even watch his full speech?
@wellsaidgoodheadfred9843
@wellsaidgoodheadfred9843 3 жыл бұрын
Wow acting like vandalism is a greater evil than toxic relationships and gay suicide shows how ignorant and silly you are.
@wellsaidgoodheadfred9843
@wellsaidgoodheadfred9843 3 жыл бұрын
Being gay is not a choice. If this was the 70’s you cult members would be standing up for the notion that black people are cursed.
@CraigBG
@CraigBG 3 жыл бұрын
Good man right there.
@tx2jbh81
@tx2jbh81 3 жыл бұрын
Right to property is a fundamental right in these great United States. C’mon people. LOVE your neighbor isn’t predicated on wether or not you agree. Love your neighbor; not burn your neighbor.
@tiadavenport5465
@tiadavenport5465 3 жыл бұрын
People should feel safe where they go to pray. I hope they catch these people.
@debbiew.7716
@debbiew.7716 3 жыл бұрын
Destroying property is never OK. I don't think 3 churches of the same denominations are an accident. They will be caught. Ignore the hate and grudges. God willing people will heal from their hurts and and anger, if not they will find something better to do with their time. Don't argue with ex members. It is a never ending battle until they are touched by the Spirit.
@goblincamper2004
@goblincamper2004 3 жыл бұрын
Being a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints myself I want to say thank you for your kindness. We all need to realize there are others who might not believe the same way, but we all need to show kindness and respect for each other. We are all children of a loving Heavenly Father who loves us more than anything and wants us to repent, so we can return to live with him and our Savior Jesus Christ again. The members of the church are not perfect, but the church is Christ's church and is true.
@Glen.Danielsen
@Glen.Danielsen 3 жыл бұрын
Dave, thanks for your helpful words, and beautiful heart. 💛🙏🏼
@inthenameofjesus9330
@inthenameofjesus9330 3 жыл бұрын
I grew up in St George , I consider it my home even though I'm not there , I want to be there though but I can't right now. . I love the LDS church , they are what St George is about. I'm not LDS but the church burning should never have happened. 😔😔😔😔 They are good people and took care of me as a child. God bless them and St George
@sheilaedmond1498
@sheilaedmond1498 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, friend!
@inthenameofjesus9330
@inthenameofjesus9330 3 жыл бұрын
@@sheilaedmond1498 your welcome.
@ro22ss
@ro22ss 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this news Dave. The "open minded" community that preaches we should love everyone doesn't act very open minded or all loving when things like this happen. So sad that words taken out of context by a devout leader result in hateful criminal acts like this.
@bernardmailu5185
@bernardmailu5185 3 жыл бұрын
Am a faithful saint from Kenya, I pay my tilth to the Lord which is used to build those houses. The true saint of jesus christ are being persecuted
@sheilaedmond1498
@sheilaedmond1498 3 жыл бұрын
@@bernardmailu5185 Bless you, brother!
@bernardmailu5185
@bernardmailu5185 3 жыл бұрын
@@sheilaedmond1498 thanks Sheila
@LadyMaria
@LadyMaria 2 жыл бұрын
@@bernardmailu5185 Orthodox Christians are being killed all over the world. The LDS have a long time to catch up.
@ambermayo9443
@ambermayo9443 3 жыл бұрын
I hadn't heard about this. Thank you for looking out for your neighbor and speaking up. Shared.
@HonesE57
@HonesE57 3 жыл бұрын
Just so unacceptable! I am so sorry! Praying for the arson to be found and made accountable as well as LDS families kept safe from such hatred! Thanks Dave for speaking out!
@uthinkiamhot
@uthinkiamhot 3 жыл бұрын
Weird, praying for an arsonist to be found. What a strange conversation to have with God. "Yeah God, you know that guy who did this, you should find him."
@gaymichaelis7581
@gaymichaelis7581 3 жыл бұрын
I didn’t even know about that! Thank you very much for posting this, Brother Dave! Your last name is too hard to remember right! This is shocking and not good, to be sure! Yes, this is no way for anyone who has the beef to take it out on the LDS church, etc.! Thank you again, brother Dave, for making and posting this video! I am a member also…
@ilenekuhns3463
@ilenekuhns3463 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your decency.
@samuelpike1248
@samuelpike1248 3 жыл бұрын
Ya,and I think this is only going to increase with LDS meeting houses,as well as meeting houses of other Christian religions. I see some evangelicals on here just bashing the LDS church for a mere difference in theological beliefs,and they call themselves Christians,and we should condemn that as well. And Dave is right,if someone's response to hatred against ANY church is to try and burn it down,they are not going about things the right way. This man,whoever he was,just affected his own life,and the life of his family and even friends for life. It reminds me of a good song by the alternative band Veridia. In their song Disconnected,a few of the lines in the song say this-disconnected,so far away,ammunition,words we say;I know we can turn it around,we should be burning bridges instead of burning them down. So in other words the message of the song is whatever words that we use,to use them wisely,and not be divisive. But rather build bridges instead of trying tear them down. I hope that these churches are repaired soon and people can get back to worshipping soon.
@davidjanbaz7728
@davidjanbaz7728 3 жыл бұрын
As an Evangelical I condemn the burning of you're buildings. But you're the ones claiming all other Christians are in Apostate churches: that isn't Christian either! When you stop sending missionaries to other Christians and trying to pull them out of their churches to join yours. Then Evangelicals will stop criticizing you're churches counterfeit doctrines. No, chance at either of those two things happening!
@samuelpike1248
@samuelpike1248 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidjanbaz7728 Wow,such sharp words here. We've NEVER days all other Christians are bad,I personally don't. Why do you think there's so many churches today? And I wonder if you condemn what the Roman Catholic church has done to other Christians over the centuries,and a church who aided the Nazi's during World War 2. But that's a discussion for another day. What I also find interesting is than you condemn the burning of LDS churches. Then at the same time,it's almost like you're saying they brought this upon themselves. We as Christians need to get over our silly,petty differences,and instead, find common ground one the issues of the day. Feel free to disagree with me all you want. That's your choice. It's also my choice to disagree with you. We can't accomplish anything as believers when we're constantly at each other's throats. Enough of this divisiveness. Just because I may not believe the same as you do doesn't mean I'm wrong either. I guarantee if you talked to me for even 10-15 minutes,you would learn a great deal about who I am and what I stand for. I condemn any church burning as well. Like I've already stated. How about as believers we come together,instead of being so divisive? This goes for anyone. You don't have to like me,but you will respect me.
@sheilaedmond1498
@sheilaedmond1498 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidjanbaz7728 Hey brother, I admire your conviction! Let's both use our conviction to come together in unity in our belief that Jesus Christ is the Savior of the world. The world needs this message. Members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints go out and share our beliefs because we love Jesus and we love our fellow human beings. We believe we have found truth, and that God is the author of all truth. Jesus Christ himself has commanded His followers to share testimony of His word, His truth, and His divine mission as the Savior and Redeemer of the world. So you're right, we aren't going to stop sending missionaries out. 🙂 As far as churches being apostate, do you agree that with so many Christian churches teaching conflicting doctrines, they can't all be correct? Truth never contradicts itself. It's a beautiful thing. Apostate doesn't mean evil. It simply means a deviation from truth. So the challenge for you and me is to bring the conflicting doctrines to the Lord and ask Him which is true. The Holy Spirit makes known the truth of all things, so when we ask God in faith, with real intent (James 1:5), we can know what is true and what is counterfeit doctrine (to use your phrase). Jesus has commanded us to come together in the unity of the faith. Ephesians 4:3-5 says there is "one Lord, one faith, and one baptism." The only way for this to be, was for there to be a restoration of all things. Just because the word on the street (or KZbin, or social media) says that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has counterfeit doctrine, doesn't make it so! 😉 People who leave other churches to join our church have done so because they have found out for themselves, through the Holy Spirit, that the Church of Jesus Christ has been restored (i.e. there has been a "restoration of all things" Acts 3:19-21). There is nothing more Christian than seeking God's truth. And God always makes truth known to honest seekers. God bless! 🙏
@LadyMaria
@LadyMaria 2 жыл бұрын
I'm an Orthodox Christian and I haven't seen any LDS show any sort of love towards us or care when our temples have been desecrated and people hurt or killed. I have brought it up only to be brushed off. Being that the Orthodox Church was originally called the Way as it began on Pentecost AD 33, LDS and Protestantism didn't even know about us having existed for 1800 and 1500 years when those religions were created and just assumed Rome was the head honcho always without realizing Christianity began and had been maintained in the East. If they had been divinely inspired they would have known. Also their theology is highly at odds with ours so we can't make light of that.
@LadyMaria
@LadyMaria 2 жыл бұрын
@@sheilaedmond1498 There are many Mormon denominations and many Protestant denominations (what you called Christian denominations).
@pamweinberg1212
@pamweinberg1212 3 жыл бұрын
I’m so sorry to hear this. I could never understand why anyone would want to do this. All the good work they do for others. It’s called the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. It’s name after Jesus Christ. Heart breaking. 🥲🙏
@edoborcarrington5350
@edoborcarrington5350 3 жыл бұрын
This is disheartening 😭
@johnhumble4240
@johnhumble4240 3 жыл бұрын
@@Raze120 I get your point And to answer your question , of course not ! But the analogy lacks depth Theology is a lot deeper psychologically than the blood lines of canines and the interpretation of the origins of species in dogs ! I grew up Mormon southern baptist and catholic So from my earliest memories I watched and studied the behaviors of men in all three of these churches ? The Mormons are as “ Christian “ as any church I’ve ever been a part of ! The name is powerful and even seems arrogant ! The trip is, what if it is the true church ? Every man must stand on his own and deem what he sees as truth or fiction ? What if a poodle was really a Pomeranian ? Who says the German Shepard shouldn’t have been named a chocolate lab instead ? The Holy Ghost and the intent of each individuals behavior eventually bring them to the reality that they believe is the truth ? Peter denied Christ three times ? David sent Bathsheba’s husband to the front lines of war to die ? Lot slept with his daughters ? And king Solomon had many wives and concubines ? Does is make their ministry any less true ? Then we have Joey smith come along at a tender age asking for wisdom to know the truth of this life ? And the end result was Jesus Christ once again despite his alleged bad behaviors and conspiracy theories ? I see none of this as an easy task to unravel and yet I wouldn’t burn church buildings to make my statements !
@MichaelDouglasSkewes
@MichaelDouglasSkewes 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, we need more people like you!
@Lioness22
@Lioness22 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for standing up for us good Sir!! I really appreciate this... Please continue to be a good example and influence on others, and stay safe out there!!
@nelysilva5833
@nelysilva5833 3 жыл бұрын
I'm in total agreement with you Dave. It's just not right, immoral, and illegal. In America everyone has the rights! I pray the arson fires stop🙏🙏🙏. I'm Christian Dave. Thank you Dave🙏🙏
@Cosmonautarmchair
@Cosmonautarmchair 3 жыл бұрын
This is terrible and saddening. Thanks for speaking up brother.
@refreshingdesignsjewelry
@refreshingdesignsjewelry 3 жыл бұрын
We had one a street away from my house burned down a few years ago. So sad! Here it is three years later and they are finally tearing it down.
@robertoviejo152
@robertoviejo152 3 жыл бұрын
I'm LDS too. I want to thank you for speaking up for us. As president Gordon B Hinckley said " let us all(all religions) put what we have on the table. We will use and share what we can. I'm pretty sure Heavenly Father wouldn't be happy with fighting and feuding. Seriously, how old are we.
@togodragon
@togodragon 3 жыл бұрын
Its nothing new. We've been dealing with this since the beginning.
@kelliewood9544
@kelliewood9544 3 жыл бұрын
As a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints I'm grateful for your kindly support. I love these wonderful people and wholeheartedly love their Book of Mormon and Bible interpretations. That's why I became a member.
@Durndawg
@Durndawg 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Dave!
@lindamoses3697
@lindamoses3697 3 жыл бұрын
This really frightened me because of the great number of churches burned down in Canada. It is awful to see here.
@katherinem.4414
@katherinem.4414 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, brother, for having the courage to speak up for us. We are all in this together!!
@vendingguy47
@vendingguy47 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for standing up and saying what needed to be said. Religious freedom is under attack more than ever in the USA.
@mak88119
@mak88119 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, you need to love those who hate you or disagree with you. Burning a church down only shows hatred and not the Love of Christ.
@haydenhodges34
@haydenhodges34 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, agree or disagree, but this is not the answer.
@MarcJEllison
@MarcJEllison 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this post!!!!
@Amerikan25
@Amerikan25 3 жыл бұрын
The lds church is burning. Literally and figuratively.
@FAMILYFUN-un1zm
@FAMILYFUN-un1zm 3 жыл бұрын
Hear, hear! Thank you for speaking the truth here.
@sarahswanger979
@sarahswanger979 3 жыл бұрын
Wow!!! So so sad!!!!
@jilld5733
@jilld5733 3 жыл бұрын
The guy who did all three vandalism was caught. He wasn't acting for any group of people. No need to get angry about one crazy guy.
@lexingtonconcord8751
@lexingtonconcord8751 3 жыл бұрын
Arson on three buildings stills alarms me, regardless of how many people were involved 👍🏻
@jilld5733
@jilld5733 3 жыл бұрын
No I get it, it's nuts. And I'm LDS and am just as upset when I see things like this happen. But I'm not sure why he is saying he "disagrees" with anything. Was someone striking up a debate by burning a building? Lol just say your scared and pissed off. It's scary. The fact that some idiot out there is targeting LDS churches makes many of us latter day saints feel a bit in danger. And it's angering because it's a sacred place. When evil strikes like this, it's not a politic statement or anything, it's pure violence and insanity and what I have learned about evil is that there is no motivation behind it that actually makes sense. It's chaos, like the joker on Batman. No rhyme or reason, and if there is no rhyme or reason then what is there to "disagree" with when it's beyond normal conversation? It's not like you can win a debate against crazy, not that anyone is trying to, but it goes to show that whatever happened in that man's heart when he burned the buildings is nothing that any amount of disagreeing with is going to fix. That's Jesus' job. I just wanted to point that out. And so why get angry? It's not like an official statement by the whole state of Missouri, it's one angry dude who needs Jesus. Feel sad for him and pray for him. Isn't that what the Amish did when their children were murdered in their classroom? They prayed with the parents of the killer. Here you've got one slap on the wrist in comparison to something like THAT, and here the Mormons(ok ok I know LDS..) here we are pissed off and scared and masking the fear and indignation with a bunch of eloquent speeches gaining people on a pretended 'side' instead of seeing it for what it is and praying for our own peace and that of the idiot who did it.
@lisadee.
@lisadee. 3 жыл бұрын
Frustration with the LDS Church; you mean Non-Members! All religions have different theology, that's what makes them unique. The LDS Church & the Mormon Doctrine isn't going anywhere, so to burn a church because of what; does what; It is rhetorical folks, no answer needed! This is what is very dumbfounding; I find people whom move into the State suddenly find it difficult living under the Church persuasion, making it unrealistic for anyone to want to move here if there is such disdain with the doctrine. It isn't forced upon anyone, but the beauty of Utah being a stand alone State, which differs from all others, is due to the presence of the LDS faith. So instead of people accepting Utah for all its glory, people want to change the reality that exists, & somehow they find issue with it. Makes no sense, when there are how many other States to choose from without such a prominent "Church" influence; just saying! 😕 It is sad though to see humanity, God's creation, stoop so low because of differences not being able to accept, even though disagreed upon. Makes no sense to the intellectual mind. It changes nothing for the people of Faith.
@michaeldunwoody3629
@michaeldunwoody3629 3 жыл бұрын
This is sad, but it is fulfillment of ancient and modern prophecy. The Saints (not just LDS, all those who have chosen to love and follow our Savior Jesus Christ) will be persecuted in the Last Days. It is only going to get worse, and it will spread until the righteous flee to Zion and let the unrighteous keep their Babylon. Then will be the Great and Dreadful Day of His return.
@stephaniekaye1933
@stephaniekaye1933 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for such generosity toward those of us in the LDS faith in posting this video. I appreciate it and I know many others will too. I can’t imagine who would want to destroy anyone’s place of worship here in America 🇺🇸 Thank you for speaking out on our behalf
@skylark1250
@skylark1250 3 жыл бұрын
I am a critic of Mormonism on certain issues but I don’t want anyone hurt or the chapels destroyed! Stay safe . St. George. Beautiful city.
@jayrunner3347
@jayrunner3347 3 жыл бұрын
When there was a rash of black church burnings in 1996 members of many denominations got together with black churches and scheduled night watches with shotguns. A pastor I met who graduated Morehouse even needed some help, not having quite enough men to cover seven nights a week. The duty gets old fast, but the burnings did stop. I hope and pray there are no more burnings in St. George, but you got to do what you got to do when the chips are down.
@janetcrane59
@janetcrane59 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not LDS but come on. This is not cool. We need to stand together and patrol these churches. The police can't be everywhere at once. Also don't their cameras pick up anything?
@vintageyellow71
@vintageyellow71 3 жыл бұрын
I first want to say thank you to your kind words and video. It is atrocious to me that people would go to that length to try to make a point or two obtain some level of what they would consider Getting even. Even for what? Thank you for pointing out the news about the church buildings and appreciate the staunch constitutional belief system that you are maintaining as to our right to worship how we Wishon how we may. Thank you again
@amysellers1603
@amysellers1603 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks fir standing up. The faith continues mummify needs to protect the freedom of all faiths to meet and worship, and respect those places of worship.
@Marco-xu1ss
@Marco-xu1ss 3 жыл бұрын
As a post-Mormon, I agree; not cool to burn down buildings regardless of who occupies them.
@richarderickson9983
@richarderickson9983 3 жыл бұрын
I am not Mormon, but I would fight for the rights of Mormons. This is not complicated.
@Pedroforpresident2024
@Pedroforpresident2024 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not a religious person but burning someone's place of worship is Evil and wrong.
@rubendhoyos9886
@rubendhoyos9886 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed this is not acceptable, this feeds into the persecution complex.
@50calBeowulf
@50calBeowulf 3 жыл бұрын
One can agree to disagree and live civily, and the other side thinks the "others" are evil
@texasborn2720
@texasborn2720 3 жыл бұрын
HUH ? I don't care how one worships or believes or even not believe in anything . But when a religion is based on racism of Native-Americans that is crossing the LINE ! How the hell is open racism to us Indigenous people being "civil" y ? 2Nephi Book of Mormon and God put a mark of "dark skin" on us Native-Americans according to Mormonism !
@50calBeowulf
@50calBeowulf 3 жыл бұрын
@@texasborn2720 lol, is Kool aid refreshing to ya?
@texasborn2720
@texasborn2720 3 жыл бұрын
@@50calBeowulf You being a jerk makes you feel good to ya?
@alananat6628
@alananat6628 3 жыл бұрын
@@50calBeowulf Are you refuting what they're stating? Put forth an argument.
@lexingtonconcord8751
@lexingtonconcord8751 3 жыл бұрын
@@texasborn2720 It sounds an awful lot like you DO care how someone worships or believes, and that you don't believe in freedom of religion 👌🏻
@harmagician1
@harmagician1 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your wise words, Dave. It's great to see others stand up for us.
@DreamCather147
@DreamCather147 3 жыл бұрын
Leave them alone !
@sarahhunter1114
@sarahhunter1114 3 жыл бұрын
Geeze! I’m no longer LDS, but that is sick! We need to soften our hearts towards one another. Prayers the members at least stay safe. 🙏🏼❤️
@paulodwyer8626
@paulodwyer8626 3 жыл бұрын
there was also arson in Fruita Colorado. The church burned there is a total loss.
@nicolelovesjesusgod7673
@nicolelovesjesusgod7673 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! That is sad .
@ShaunaHatch
@ShaunaHatch 3 жыл бұрын
These are sad times. I think it's time to put up cameras on the churches.
@lookup8332
@lookup8332 3 жыл бұрын
Good on you Dave. You’re a true brother and friends. May God bless you and your family my Toko.
@Ryanhelpmeunderstand
@Ryanhelpmeunderstand 3 жыл бұрын
Home centered church is becoming more and more relevant. As these distressed mortals become more and more hateful… we will need to have a safe and secure home to worship in… Prepare yourselves Saints. “Time is running out”.
@lexingtonconcord8751
@lexingtonconcord8751 3 жыл бұрын
Nice, well said 👍🏻
@angievirdis7941
@angievirdis7941 3 жыл бұрын
Why the frustration with the church?
@britwill
@britwill 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! You are so amazing. 😊
@jenniferbeazer3026
@jenniferbeazer3026 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, so very much!!! It means so much to hear other people , not of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day- Saints, defending terrible acts, on our buildings , faith, ect, believe me, had it happened to any other faith Church building , that had been hatefully destroyed, I myself and the people I know of my LDS community would be commenting, supportive, and uplifting comments to your Church community!!! Once Again , Thanks again , So Grateful for your support!! God Bless!!!
@leighyorgason6702
@leighyorgason6702 3 жыл бұрын
You are disappointed? That sounds very Mormony. Outraged? Horrified? No disappointed. Disappointed is what we are when we burn pancakes not churches.
@aisaxonawiat6484
@aisaxonawiat6484 3 жыл бұрын
Could be some people just taking advantage of the current climate...... As Rham Emanuel once said…… "never let a crisis go to waste".
@punacunningham9151
@punacunningham9151 3 жыл бұрын
God be with you brother NZ ❤ LDS
@Arlislds29555
@Arlislds29555 3 жыл бұрын
This is horrible but it is nothing compared to what could happen later on, Meeting houses don't have security guards, any mentally disturbed person can break in with a gun during sacrament meeting and start shooting. Yes things are gonna get worse cause persecutions are coming back. If Lds churches are not secured with a guard I prefer serve God at home and not put my family at risk.
@grimmy02
@grimmy02 3 жыл бұрын
It's surprising this happens in this day and age, especially in Utah of all places. There was also another chapel burned down in St. George a couple of years ago, which was across the street from the old temple.
@MrTikalvideo
@MrTikalvideo 3 жыл бұрын
Wish you film some footage with you cell showing to us the damage.. Thanks
@lilacbunches
@lilacbunches 3 жыл бұрын
This is so sad...it makes us feel unsafe...even in a country where there is freedom of religion.
@alananat6628
@alananat6628 3 жыл бұрын
Almost as unsafe as a child being abused behind the bishops door.
@alananat6628
@alananat6628 3 жыл бұрын
@@Raze120 I cant comment either way on this man's actions and I dont know his rationale. However, I believe that we can expect more of these types of activities, as people want accountability for crimes and abuse in the church.
@ilovepickle
@ilovepickle 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir I love you too! ❤️ I agree with everything you said.
@kellybowen7985
@kellybowen7985 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure the LDS church founded the area. So if someone doesn't like them they should leave as they build the city.
@cindydowning2141
@cindydowning2141 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, our hearts must change, soften and be open to our brothers and sisters. We are all children of God…
@maxjenkins7139
@maxjenkins7139 3 жыл бұрын
Right you are. This kind of thing will just entrench them.
@confusedwhynot
@confusedwhynot 3 жыл бұрын
It is deeply troubling to know that people hate their neighbors so much. We all need to strive harder to be like Christ. Thank you for your example.
@jilld5733
@jilld5733 3 жыл бұрын
It was just one guy not a group of people.
@crazymema23
@crazymema23 3 жыл бұрын
In the 1990's were you upset, disappointed in the burning of gift shops owned by gay people? Christian kindness for all human beings.
@lexingtonconcord8751
@lexingtonconcord8751 3 жыл бұрын
What the heck are you talking about?! Like you can assume anything about this guy outside of his denouncing of burning churches? Unbelievable, really. Grow up Tweedle Dee
@mathusvaiaoga9787
@mathusvaiaoga9787 3 жыл бұрын
Wait a min. So who’s disgruntled and what are they so disgruntled about?
@whiterabbit-wo7hw
@whiterabbit-wo7hw 3 жыл бұрын
They're trying to figure that out, my man.
@kaijusushi8165
@kaijusushi8165 3 жыл бұрын
violence is not the way to create positive change
@rachelczumaya2806
@rachelczumaya2806 3 жыл бұрын
Definite hate crimes
@paulgreenfield4714
@paulgreenfield4714 3 жыл бұрын
the devil has told them to do it they are under his command,
@jmshackelfoaol
@jmshackelfoaol 3 жыл бұрын
They did the same thing in fruita co
@crawfordrhoderick2942
@crawfordrhoderick2942 3 жыл бұрын
I forgot what was the question.
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