3 Misconceptions in Modern Release

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@peterthebowler
@peterthebowler Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. We hear the same info everywhere, but your explanations bring a clear understanding which makes them much more effective. This is what separates your videos from others. Thanks again. Can't wait for your next one.
@murymann
@murymann Жыл бұрын
The release is unique to every individual’s physiology and strength. One size, never fits all. If you choose to take the game seriously start with a routine and hand position at the point of release that’s natural and comfortable. That’s #1. If it’s not comfortable it’s not repeatable.
@curtismast6069
@curtismast6069 Жыл бұрын
😅9
@inkmanone558
@inkmanone558 Жыл бұрын
Never apologize for showing how to bowl correctly, great information. Keep it coming ! Thank you.
@i8910midnight
@i8910midnight Жыл бұрын
I have many misunderstandings from this video. 1. Timing. 2. Shoulder rotation. 3. Distance of feet at the foul line. 4. Thumb and finger pitches 5. Correct posture at release All I see from the videos are just arms and hand. Will gladly send a thank you for a much more detailed and concise video. Keep up the great work.
@tonylester6607
@tonylester6607 7 ай бұрын
Modern “Release” is the title. It sounds like you know enough to understand that beginners need the basics. This video was perfect.
@davegroves5479
@davegroves5479 Жыл бұрын
All I can say is thank you, amazing video explaining how you bowl… yes I know not everyone throws the same way but that’s up to use to find what works… and I applied your method of the release this morning in league 279/203/270 - 752 first seven of the season… thank you for sharing
@Gk2003m
@Gk2003m 6 ай бұрын
I’ll add one thing here: play other sports. Physiology and body mechanics transfer from sport to sport. A good soccer kick has similar mechanics to a good golf swing to a good bowling swing. I’m experiencing this right now. I’m age 61, and had a decades-long layoff from bowling and back issues that impeded my golf swing. But I picked up bowling again a few months ago. In building a new throw I’m breaking it down. Almost there, bowling games over 200 on a semi-frequent basis now. And the things I’m doing for bowling are transferring to golf, and that’s getting back to where it was at age 25 (scratch)
@jamesmurraldeo7624
@jamesmurraldeo7624 5 ай бұрын
My 2 most beloved sports, bowling and table tennis, don’t have much in common in terms of body mechanics. :)
@wilson_lws0113
@wilson_lws0113 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. I’ve tried all these 3 errors and took me few months to realized the correct way to release the ball, not hook the ball. I reckon it really helps bowlers to build a correct image of low-down and avoid injuries. Really appreciate your tips and effort in this video.
@janproshopchannel
@janproshopchannel Жыл бұрын
Interesting. Who was coaching you on these to fix them?
@wilson_lws0113
@wilson_lws0113 Жыл бұрын
@@janproshopchannelOh I just learnt it myself and watched video on yt. Xd
@countrytwang
@countrytwang Жыл бұрын
I've been looking for a release like this! Thank You!
@Dukeofearl11
@Dukeofearl11 Жыл бұрын
This is a top notch bowling channel. I hope your subs continue to grow
@jbivens3
@jbivens3 Жыл бұрын
This makes so much sense. I just drilled a dumb hole in a bowl Monday and been practicing it and got it right and then lost it and I see now what it was
@Thepollopunk
@Thepollopunk 5 күн бұрын
woow! I just started to bowling like a 5 months ago, and now I'm starting to hook my ball, but I'm having problems with my release and wrist, with this video I noticed that maybe I'm lifting the ball at the end of my release to create this motion of putting the hand behind the ball as much as possible, that helped me to star to making a hook, but! the big problem with that is now the wrist and fingers pain is killing me, because I have in my mind the idea of cupping my wrist to have my hand behind the ball. Next time I will try to cup the wrist at the highests point of the swing
@mikerinehart2480
@mikerinehart2480 Жыл бұрын
Love the vids. Clear and concise. No babble
@williamhaynes2414
@williamhaynes2414 Жыл бұрын
Illustrating the ball motions would be helpful. Had a difficult time following this.
@golfnutt1969
@golfnutt1969 11 ай бұрын
I was following along fine, seeing all the things I've tried that don't work, but i don't feel like i know what to do now, just what not to do.
@jaybillups2063
@jaybillups2063 11 ай бұрын
Very well explained - I had to watch it few times and pause throughout to get it, and that’s okay. Your style is little different, but you’re a good teacher. Don’t worry about the negative comments, but there are some good critiques that will help you improve. again your style is very different from most every other bowling channel, don’t change the core way you do things. 👍🏾
@jonmayer
@jonmayer Жыл бұрын
Well that explains a lot from what I was taught and why I struggle to get better.
@TommyToon23
@TommyToon23 10 ай бұрын
Great video! I’ve been bowling one handed for 14 years now and I recently changed to two handed since I kept getting pain in my thumb and got what it’s known as bowlers thumb cuz I felt like I kept squeezing the ball on the back swing, does that mean my thumb hole was too big? And I wish I can continue bowling one handed but I just don’t have the proper technique down 🤦‍♂️
@janproshopchannel
@janproshopchannel 9 ай бұрын
Yes too loose
@MonarchGuy974
@MonarchGuy974 10 ай бұрын
I have a question. If you don't cup your wrists on the down swing do you have to compensate by bending your elbow? How do we keep fingers in a lower position if we don't cup at the down swing? Without one of those, how can you do a yo-yo release from a completely straight arm with uncupped wrist and straight elbow?
@lazylion1421
@lazylion1421 10 ай бұрын
He cups his wrist shortly before the release. This way takes less muscle then keeping your wrist cupped all throughout the swing and it will make the JoJo snap more effective. Not that I can do it, I use the traditional release.
@MonarchGuy974
@MonarchGuy974 10 ай бұрын
@@lazylion1421Thanks!
@janproshopchannel
@janproshopchannel 9 ай бұрын
Don’t do it in the swing. Separate this motion with swing when practice.
@nathanielfuentes5294
@nathanielfuentes5294 10 ай бұрын
Great concepts. Mainly staying down and the yo-yo. But your release requires a LOT of muscle in order to snap out of the ball and create rotation. It might be worth getting even lower and creating leverage from your shoulder instead of your elbow. Elbow bending creates the possibility for the ball to shift to the left or right away from your intended trajectory. When you push from your shoulder, the only way for the ball to miss the intended trajectory is if you actively twist your wrist.
@randyhaney5567
@randyhaney5567 9 ай бұрын
I beg to differ, I have been trying to incorporate this yo-yo effect into my release with no success because I was trying to do it from a cupped wrist and that was taxing for me...now instead of starting my approach and into my backswing with a cupped wrist now I can totally relax and cup and yo-yo release all in one motion and that is so much less taxing on my arm than what I was doing...now I can concentrate on developing the technique and not have to worry about cramping up and losing strength in my arm...BIG difference.
@rkh1116
@rkh1116 Жыл бұрын
Well if people weren't confused before, they will be after watching this.
@janproshopchannel
@janproshopchannel Жыл бұрын
To clarify, this video is for modern Yoyo release that is not parallel with traditional release, especially for those who are wearing wrist guards. The mechanism is just different. Using a tight thumb hole to create extra time for flipping; extremely light finger pressure to ensure forward roll Not upward; zero muscling from wrist to achieve cupping - these are common practice among pro bowlers here to achieve fingers being at bottom creating high rev. The namely Low-Down release (ロダンリリース) is the modern trend in Japan whereas quite a few PBA Pro in the states side are adopting the same.
@randomlyweird3448
@randomlyweird3448 Жыл бұрын
Could you possibly do a video going over the misconceptions of two finger bowling I feel many people will benefit from that as well as from this one and teach more people since more and more are going to two fingered bowling.
@petesmith111
@petesmith111 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the useful information.It was illuminating.
@CasualGamerPlays
@CasualGamerPlays 9 ай бұрын
I currently bowl with two fingers but, want to learn how to use a thumb but every video i've watched, doesn't seem to make any sense. I guess i have to get on the lanes and just try out some of these techniques, if it's possible. Thanks anyways for the video
@brettnordling2417
@brettnordling2417 2 ай бұрын
Excellent tutorial ❤
@davidmackenzie5523
@davidmackenzie5523 Жыл бұрын
Thanks. Appreciate those tips.
@mr.tuckers2848
@mr.tuckers2848 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for another great tip. I finally fixed my release because of your valuable information. The next problem I have is planting my left foot just before the foul line and trying to get down lower on the release. When I recorded myself my body was too upright and the release is to my side and too high from the ground. Maybe it was knee level. I also experience some pain in my left heel because I think I am planting my foot too hard instead of sliding foot to the foul line. I am also not tilting my body sideways, pulling ball behind me and then allowing hand to drop lower. Do you have a demonstration to help improve this issue I have? Thanks!!!
@Smally2323
@Smally2323 6 ай бұрын
What’s the best way to learn how to get fingers lower (below the equator) tried just can’t do it
@dweb6916
@dweb6916 Жыл бұрын
As usual, great vid and informative!
@Aviation_811
@Aviation_811 Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I understand how to hook correctly now
@geraldt705
@geraldt705 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I am a senior bowler. Is it possible to release the ball correctly with a wrist device? Do you give personal lessons?
@janproshopchannel
@janproshopchannel Жыл бұрын
No matter which age and gender, one could achieve high rev release with or without wrist device (no device is more recommended).
@Journeyto300
@Journeyto300 10 ай бұрын
would love a slow motion of this release.
@garykitagawa8092
@garykitagawa8092 Жыл бұрын
Good info. But, your words disappear from the screen before I'm able to read it fully. Can you fix that? Thanks
@jamesm8360
@jamesm8360 Жыл бұрын
To read close caption go to settings 8n you tube video and slow speed down to 50%......no problem following allong then.
@DoctorSargeMD
@DoctorSargeMD 11 ай бұрын
I can't do this to save my life. Been trying for several hours with my Zen Global and my ball just won't hook even when it looks like it has good rpms.
@janproshopchannel
@janproshopchannel 11 ай бұрын
Maybe your ball speed is high?
@DoctorSargeMD
@DoctorSargeMD 11 ай бұрын
@@janproshopchannel it was tough to say. Some of the time it definitely was the ball speed, but the speedometer on the lanes we were put on weren't working. When I slowed it down I definitely noticed more movement, but it's still not as much hook as Im trying to get. It's extemely difficult to get the wrist flick at the right moment combined with the elbow charging later rather than earlier. I'll be practicing again next week so hopefully I can get some consistency.
@Loucid.
@Loucid. Жыл бұрын
Your videos are so helpful, thank you so much!!
@josephcontegiacomo1964
@josephcontegiacomo1964 8 ай бұрын
You can slow down video in settings. Much easier to watch.
@RitchieLeong
@RitchieLeong Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! Not disputing the technique explained here, but would like to understand why is "cupping" a misconception when majority of the one-handed pros, like EJ Tackett, Kris Prather, Sean Rash, Kyle Sherman, Darren Tang, etc cup their wrist from start of the approach, to the top of the backswing and to the bottom of the release, instead of the "quick flip" technique explained here.
@janproshopchannel
@janproshopchannel Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment. “Cupping” is an illusion. Most Pro Bowlers are fully relaxed in swing and wrist, such that fingers go bottom by inertia. Imagine none of these bowlers muscle their wrist at release: All of their fingers are in the bottom at release, resulting in an Effect of relax wrist (appeared to be cupping) that mislead viewers to believe cupping is the Cause of high rev (appeared to require strong wrist). Will explain more on the coming videos, cheers! :)
@janproshopchannel
@janproshopchannel Жыл бұрын
@@markbailey6895 What I meant was “thumb out first” is a natural sign of good fingers position, instead of a physical practice your thumb would work on.
@CasualGamerPlays
@CasualGamerPlays Жыл бұрын
I'm moving to a thumb, coming from just throwing with two fingers and it's one of the most confusing processes or concepts. Throwing with two fingers was much easier for me to understand and control. I want to be better and have even more control so i figured moving over to a thumb would help. I've watched this video multiple times, it's still hard for me to understand how to release the ball with the thumb. Do you have any other videos that would help? If not it's all good, i'll just have to go on the lanes and figure it out myself
@lazylion1421
@lazylion1421 10 ай бұрын
Like he said at the beginning of the video, you don't really have to release the thumb. If your release is good, the thumb will come out first all by itself.
@CasualGamerPlays
@CasualGamerPlays 9 ай бұрын
@@lazylion1421I guess i'm just stupid when it comes to the concept of using the thumb and two fingers. I've practiced this before and it just doesn't come to me and doesn't come off of my hand right. Thanks for your response though
@lazylion1421
@lazylion1421 9 ай бұрын
@@CasualGamerPlays Maybe you could try the following exercise. Hold the ball next to you like you would hold it at the release and then let the ball roll off your hand. You will notice that the thumb will come out 1st. Then try to do the same with a little swing of the arm. That should give you the right feel. Then just build on that with a one step approach etc... Edit: also make sure your thumb is not hooked (like a claw) but straight while holding the ball. That way you're not holding the ball with the top of the thumb.
@teebull9552
@teebull9552 Жыл бұрын
Another Great explanation. Do you use this type of release on all angles of play? Thank you!! 🙏
@janproshopchannel
@janproshopchannel Жыл бұрын
No I don’t!
@teebull9552
@teebull9552 Жыл бұрын
@@janproshopchannel On What conditions would you use this type of release? And what other types of releases do you use?
@janproshopchannel
@janproshopchannel Жыл бұрын
@@teebull9552 most of the releases in this video are showing bad examples
@teebull9552
@teebull9552 Жыл бұрын
@@janproshopchannel Why use bad examples? That's how bad habits are formed. What are the good ones? 🙏🙏🙏
@KevinPatz-pn2gs
@KevinPatz-pn2gs Жыл бұрын
My tendons and wrist hurt just watching these videos. Really confused even more now. Yet all these videos are made for ideal lane conditions, and I always bowl on dry house lanes. Its sucks that people are told to bowl one way, then it takes 20 years to figure out that it was all wrong. Even though pros have been doing it with great results for those 20 years?
@DinieTheorem
@DinieTheorem Жыл бұрын
wow this is very helpful. you got a new subscriber
@JSBowling2011
@JSBowling2011 Жыл бұрын
What you should do is try to show that good release again, but without bending your elbow, because many bowlers cannot, and do not bend their elbows, that’s just a fact. Then show how to get revs on the ball with your release.
@shanenorthrop1969
@shanenorthrop1969 10 ай бұрын
Great video
@jeffwatzig2213
@jeffwatzig2213 Жыл бұрын
Dam, wish your captions were readable. Little too small for me. 🤓
@janproshopchannel
@janproshopchannel 9 ай бұрын
Apologies…
@TraumaER
@TraumaER Жыл бұрын
Good video. However, of the 3 misconceptions, having a strong wrist definitely changes things for the better. A good way to imagine it is to get an 8 lbs ball drilled for practice with your same drilling layout as your 15-16lb ball. Your wrist is now suddenly 'strong' relative to the ball weight. As a result, you will be able to cup correctly, release like a yo-yo, and produce far more revs and side rotation than you would on your regular ball. I always recommend people to get a rope, pipe, and a couple of weighted plates and do roll ups and roll downs 1-2x a week to strengthen wrist and forearms. Too many casual league bowlers don't release the ball correctly because their wrist breaks from being weak overall.
@janproshopchannel
@janproshopchannel Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment! Using 8 lbs balls doesn’t mean to make our wrist feel stronger, it is just the fact that house ball does not offer a fit span, such that we would need to squeeze the ball. This is why lighter is better. As for the low-down effect, weight does not matter as we are supposed to flip with its momentum. We may increase tightness of thumb hole with ball weight, in order to feel the same tho.
@petesmith111
@petesmith111 Жыл бұрын
I’m not sure what you mean by “ flipping a belt”
@janproshopchannel
@janproshopchannel 9 ай бұрын
Swing the belt and at one moment, you block the middle of belt, what will happen? 😉
@petesmith111
@petesmith111 9 ай бұрын
Ok Thanks…Like a whipping action then
@fujtv1278
@fujtv1278 3 ай бұрын
Nice video
@MultitaskingGuy
@MultitaskingGuy Жыл бұрын
This needs to be better explained because I didn’t understand what you meant by a lot of stuff
@janproshopchannel
@janproshopchannel Жыл бұрын
Maybe three separated videos? Haha ;)
@johnpowe2931
@johnpowe2931 5 ай бұрын
Type goes away to fast for me to grasp information.
@stevenpalm9484
@stevenpalm9484 8 ай бұрын
I wish you would talk instead of using small text. But great content.
@Itsjustvon1027
@Itsjustvon1027 Жыл бұрын
EJ Tacket?!
@janproshopchannel
@janproshopchannel 9 ай бұрын
Love him
@mtrithart
@mtrithart Жыл бұрын
Great video however, it all starts with a ball properly drilled.
@2newphonejohnson724
@2newphonejohnson724 Жыл бұрын
I’m trying to learn but you take the words off the screen before I can read them . Don’t get it !
@2newphonejohnson724
@2newphonejohnson724 Жыл бұрын
How can I take step back after intake 5 steps forward ?
@2newphonejohnson724
@2newphonejohnson724 Жыл бұрын
Already disgusted trying to learn your video just confused me’
@devilfish1165
@devilfish1165 Жыл бұрын
One of the most confusing instructional videos I've ever seen.
@janproshopchannel
@janproshopchannel Жыл бұрын
Three separate videos are following after this introduction video. Stay tuned!
@MichaelRei99
@MichaelRei99 11 ай бұрын
The lack of proper illustration makes this video basically useless.
@thomasevans835
@thomasevans835 4 ай бұрын
Your music is irritating
@terrysaxton3011
@terrysaxton3011 8 ай бұрын
Your type goes to fast for me to watch and read missing alot without going back and watching many time. Not useful to me
@Ftybr57
@Ftybr57 5 ай бұрын
How unprofessional to have that terrible music to try to do this video very unprofessional
@Ftybr57
@Ftybr57 5 ай бұрын
Oh my God I got 12 seconds into this ridiculous video and the squeaking music no way horrible video
@lumberlikwidator8863
@lumberlikwidator8863 9 ай бұрын
Badly written. Incomprehensible. How about complete sentences so we know what you’re trying to say?
@janproshopchannel
@janproshopchannel 9 ай бұрын
Received~ will draft another video with more details!
@AMFthereturn
@AMFthereturn Жыл бұрын
Yikes. A lot of misconceptions proven in this misconception video. Like your usual comtent but this one gets a thumbs down. Work harder.
@janproshopchannel
@janproshopchannel Жыл бұрын
I believe some ideas can hardly be accepted by traditional approaches bowler, especially high rev doesn’t come from lifting finger grips, yet it is quite common here in Japan.
@AMFthereturn
@AMFthereturn Жыл бұрын
@@janproshopchannel the ironic part is the lift is the one fact that you got right technically. But the other two which you demonstrated later in the video when you threw your normal shots, are not misconceptions but facts and keys to having a smoother release and a producing higher rev rate.
@janproshopchannel
@janproshopchannel Жыл бұрын
@@AMFthereturn Will try to make a video specifically on those two because thumb out first is logically the effect, not the cause. I have seen lots of bowler trying to make thumb hole larger and larger for quick exit, or even do strange things to pull thumb because they wrongly believe it is the cause of high rev. For cupping wrist, some previous videos have mentioned about how quick flipping works the same as cupping with muscles. It is particularly important for those with weak wrist like myself.
@AMFthereturn
@AMFthereturn Жыл бұрын
@@janproshopchannel we are talking about technique here so please try to stay on topic. The thumb coming out first is vital to releas the energy through the fingers. I will grant you the thumb itself doesnt cause the exit. The thumb as a whole is simply there for a ride. The wrist pitching forward is what ejects the thumb out first. Secondly the more the wrist is cupped “in the deadzone” the more range of motion you have at release when you’re wrist goes back. This is the foundation for the yo yo style release in today’s contemporary game. The more your wrist is cupped “ in the deadzon” the lower position your fingers will end up ultimately allowing you to impart more energy on the ball at the point of release. These are again things you do in this very video hense my critique.
@KevinPatz-pn2gs
@KevinPatz-pn2gs Жыл бұрын
@AMFthereturn how can having a cupped wrist inhibit a relaxed release? I can't get my fingers under the ball because the ball is so heavy my wrist bends back and I drop the ball early. Is this just poor timing? I believe I push away, fingers under the ball, but past the downswing, my wrist bends back wards, and I force the release. So I think my feet are getting to the release point, before my swing. If that makes sense? Don't mean to pry free information, but it's appreciated!
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