3 Plate Loop-In Method Connections Explained for Wiring a Domestic Lighting Circuit

[@GSHElectrical]

== 🕐 Time Stamps - Cut to the action 🕕 == 00:00 - 3 plate method 00:22 - What are the brass blocks identified as 00:52 - Supply coming in and going out 01:30 - Cable to the switch 02:04 - Identifying the switching line conductor 02:33 - 2 way switching explained 03:31 - Cable feeding another room 04:15 - Pre 2004 cable colours

[@lison766]

Another clear and concise video explaining what seems more complicated than it really is. Thank you

[@BobBenz55]

When I was young 😇 Always thought every house had the 2 plate method. Nicely explained. Every house I’ve wired has the 2 plate method. Especially now a days, smart switches requires a neutral to the switch. Again nicely and clearly explained 👍🏼

[@GSHElectrical]

Thanks for the wonderful comment 👍🏻

[@arinb12]

Can smart switches not be used if you have a 3 plate wiring?

[@deirdrestevetaylor2263]

Hi I am so glad that you published this video. I had a ceiling rose with a loose connection, after turning off the light switch I then started to disconnect the ceiling rose, it gave me a "bit of a jolt" and I ended up, on the floor, with a ceiling rose in my hand and a lot of loose wires hanging from the ceiling. Without your video I wouldn't have had a clue how to fix it, but now I am the owner of a ceiling with a nice new light that works and no loose connection's 😁💡😁💡😁💡😁 P. S. I would like to point out that I am a chef and not an electrician. Thanks again for the video. Steve T

[@GSHElectrical]

Hi. Thanks for taking the time to comment in such detail. All the best thanks for watching GSH Electrical 👍

[@herrareeeo]

Did u only switch the light off from the switch the first time? Did you not turn off at fuse box?

[@TygwynD]

Great channel, great content, clear and easy to understand. Thank you for all of the work you've done for your learners on here.

[@GSHElectrical]

Thanks Mark 👍🏻

[@hitenpatel7585]

Thank you so much I have confused with for ages and could not diy as I am 50+ and used to old school wireing.

[@tonyford4170]

Brilliantly presented, just what I have spent all day looking for, thanks a million

[@GSHElectrical]

Thanks

[@veronicathecow]

Best explanation yet. Thank you.

[@GSHElectrical]

veronicathecow much appreciated feedback 👍

[@PtrosPtros]

Thank you for the clear and helpful explanation.👌

[@homediygarden2260]

Wow. Really simple to understand. Excellent teaching material. Good work

[@GSHElectrical]

HomeDiyGarden thanks

[@HhhGgg-iy1mk]

Perfect! I always wished for wiring "drawings/examples"" for lights to come with switches wiring - this video is much nicer than any of my drawings I made for remembering the steup. Thank you GSH. Top class!

[@damain6171]

This was so useful to me. Thank you for your concise explanation.

[@GSHElectrical]

Dam Ain no problem 👍

[@lwh8652]

Great video. Thank you 🎉

[@GSHElectrical]

Thanks 🦾

[@anasselmaghani2208]

The best method it worked for me thank you

[@GSHElectrical]

Thanks for commenting 👍🏻

[@sambooth2422]

Perfectly explained. Thanks

[@GSHElectrical]

Hi. Thanks for the support GSH Electrical

[@harisk1237]

Fucking ell when I think about 3 plate system then it makes sense lol

[@thepowerisinyou2886]

Don't like this 3 plate wiring because when the switch is off the fitting is still live, also if you want to change it to a fancy new light fitting that has terminals for only two wires to fit in each connector. I like this video and thank you for helping others.

[@ryactionary]

Fantastic video, thanks man

[@GSHElectrical]

Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻

[@amarjeetsingh2095]

thnku very kuch for ur guideness.... i learn good things from ur video

[@GSHElectrical]

Thanks 👍🏻

[@ryanbashnick5899]

In New Zealand 3 plating is considered a bit of a short cut. It uses slightly less cable than feeding the switches but it leaves a live feed at the light even with the switch off which is a danger to a home owner giving electrical work a try. It also means the whole circuit has to isolated to work on the fitting rather than taping the switch or putting the switched wire in a connector.

[@Clydepatos2001]

You are very clear for all thank you

[@JCglitchmaster]

My old light setup was like the one in this picture but the new light fixture has the earth connection on the centre hole with then 2 others for L and N. Would the looping wires (from the ceiling) go to the center hole connector where the earth is or would I put the live looping with the live wire in the one hole then the neutral looping in the neutral hole with the neutral wire?

[@ALWAYZSYDWAYZ]

JCglitchmaster this is our problem did you get a solution

[@Back2Brick-Ben]

Brilliant little video, very helpful and easy to follow. I will be looking to see if you have anymore videos. Thanks.

[@GSHElectrical]

+Ben Handley Hi thanks for the kind words. I have currently 80 videos upload and I try and add to that most weeks. All the best and thanks for watching GSH Electrical

[@johnfreeman6352]

Very Good video drawing and clear explanation Thank You. How do I access your other videos on electrics please?

[@saturdaysbomber7502]

Thanks. Really helps

[@GSHElectrical]

Hi. Thanks for the positive comment. Gaz 👍

[@stephen271]

Great video mate thanks

[@pajtimallaraj4689]

So helpful thanks mate

[@GSHElectrical]

Hi. Glad it helped

[@pajtimallaraj4689]

GSH Electrical I need a favour from you guys I have just finished level 3 electrical installation and im about to buy a tester Can u please recommend me the best multi tester I appreciate that 😊!

[@michaelcostello6991]

Great, thanks

[@sanoojkutteri2223]

Excellent

[@daverob1680]

Can I put N. Loop. L. All into a chockblock joined in orders to add new light fitting

[@allyquinn4587]

Wen fitting 4 downlights with one wire ,,d do need 2 use a separate wire to loop them all up pls help thanks,, peace

[@GSHElectrical]

Ally Quinn you need switching line, neutral and cpc at each of the downlights

[@allyquinn4587]

@@GSHElectrical thanks m8 much appreciated

[@RandomEcom]

hi, great video but you said for the hypothetical next room the supply out line will go into loop terminal ? im a little confused as to what will power the next light if you put the line in the loop rather than line terminal, thanks

[@XenonBeats]

I'm trying to replace my light in my bedroom from a ceiling rose to a LED down light and my wires are exactly the same in this video but idk how to wire it up.

[@archiethere85]

Thanks for the video, just what I needed! I have pre 2004 wires in my house, and I’m about to change a ceiling rose as explained by yourself. How do I know which wire is in, out and the switching line? Or does it matter? Thanks

[@xr8rgreat]

What do you need to do to add another light socket to the end of the circuit? Does another wire come out of each terminal from the first light and go to the next in the same way.

[@shaunbeard593]

When wires changed colours dad always told us if we get it wrong we could end up black and blue always remember by that lol

[@Kyle-hq2rm]

I have a light that has a single 2 core +E cable leading to light... What really confuses me, is that it is a 2-way light switch that operates two conventional ceiling lights, and only the one with the single cable will turn on. I'm I correct to assume that there must be a junction box in the loft?

[@stephen2641]

If the supply out is to another light switch in the garage....is it the same principle?

[@GSHElectrical]

Checkout this playlist for the 2 plate method kzbin.info/aero/PL2Ea5r9gxUUevU9gv8lizD53aYvwiJ5qr Gaz 👍

[@Celestial_Frequencies111]

Thanks mate

[@savedbygrace6494]

I tried all three black wires to find the switch. Two of them made the light come on but the switch didn’t work , the other one didn’t work at all and the trip switch tripped. What do I do?

[@alastairpenman]

Did you find the answer? I have this exact problem..!

[@bettercallbernie959]

I have a 3-way switch operating 2 fixtures. Power begins at 1 of the fixtures. I installed an outlet and ran romex to the switch to power the outlet. No neutral there. How do find the neutral at the fixture? even the white wire at the ceiling fan is tied into a black????

[@cliffbird5016]

trying to wire up a new bathroom light. prob is it only has 4 terminals but 9 wires. the 3 wires for the fitting r already attached when i bought it but cant workout how to connect the wires from the switch. terminal 1 says nautral loop blue or black. terminal 2 earth loop. terminal 3 switch wires blue with brown sheathing terminal 4 live loop brown or red. But the switch wires r blue on 1 wire brown on the other. neither r blue and brown . the wire already on the switch teminal pre wired is brown. So how would i wire that up? Presuming both the blue loop wires go in terminal 1 and the 2 brown wires go in terminal 4. but cant workout where the switch wires go. 1 will go in terminal 3 but dont know which, then the other wire left over where does that go? Been waiting 6 months for the landlord to fix the bathroom light as it just kept blowing the fuse when i turned it on so trying to fit in a new dome bathroom light as the old 1 was a pendant type and rusted out.

[@GSHElectrical]

So sorry without looking at your issues it would be naive to offer advice... contact a local electrician... all the best Gaz 👍

[@barbarybar]

What if there is no ceiling rose?

[@nadznadz5630]

@gsh electrical can you do a video on how to wire downlights from the ceiling rose wires please

[@JShamaal]

This is called Loop-In system; what is the other system(s) called please?

[@journeyonin]

Can you explain a Klix for emergency lighting where you have loop in which I was told to put brown/s but black as permanent live

[@journeyonin]

@@mrmurphypiers1241 Thanking you, so to summarise, black powers emergency lights and brown powers non-emergency lights but both could be on the same circuit. The situation that I used this system was for emergency lights, outside and inside for emergency exits on two different doors (through box and end box joined together and through box and through box at each door). The only thing that is now confusing me is for these certain 2 doors we came directly off a canilis type busbar for our power, converted to right colours at the canilis plug. I know about using links to switch live within light fitting for maintained.

[@abmm83]

Brilliant video If you have supply in supply out and switch drop cables hanging from the ceiling. How can you tell the difference between supply out and switch drop? I got electrocuted by supply in so I know which one that is 😂

[@maxinewillis9573]

I want to change my light fitting to a rose pendant but my wires are different. I have 3 brown wires, 1 blue wire and 2 green/yellow wires. Then another green/yellow wire with a metal loop on it. So which wires go where? This is the 2nd light in the room the other one had more wires.

[@GSHElectrical]

Hi. Message me on Facebook with an image of the connections and I will try and help. Thanks GSH Electrical

[@bernardgarrett3897]

Why do the 3 cpc cables go into one hole and not across three?

[@GSHElectrical]

Great point 😁

[@snsfrnd]

hi , I have two lights with one switch. can I disable one light permanently or install 2nd switch for second light in this circuit, how? please advise me

[@GSHElectrical]

Hi. Yes you could disconnect at the lighting point the second light that comes on by removing the switching line, neutral and cpc that goes to that light. You can also two way the existing 2 lights with the extra cable between switch’s as stated in the video.

[@GSHElectrical]

Hi. You could move at light one the switching to the other light and put it in the loop and at light 2 move the current switching line and put that in the loop then run a new cable from light 2 to a switch and connect as stated in the video. Thanks for watching GSH Electrical

[@alexcopland136]

Nice video, cracking intro/outro music.

[@GSHElectrical]

Hi. Thanks for watching GSH Electrical

[@briangoodwin5986]

thanks for the explanation...........even I understood it lol

[@GSHElectrical]

Wow...... thanks Gaz 👍

[@roseroy64]

Thanks

[@crystaldavies3197]

In My ceiling I have 3 grey wires all containing black red and green/yellow. My new light fitting has got the wires already in a socket which is stuck to the base of the light. The socket has 3 holes 1 hole has the brown wires and 1 hole has the blue wires, and the middle hole has nothing, the green/yellow wire is attached separate to both plates of the lamp but doesn't have a hole. Where does the wires in the ceiling go

[@GSHElectrical]

Hi. The old colours are red and black. Red is now brown and black is now blue 👍. Thanks for commenting GSH Electrical 👍

[@martinstuart9736]

Wow!

[@thepowerisinyou2886]

What happens when you want to change from a ceiling rose to a light fitting that has only 3 connections ?

[@herrareeeo]

Think you use a thing called a wago? But not sure

[@Paul-vq8fk]

Fit a junction box in the ceiling. Then you only have 3 wires coming down to connect to your new light fitting. Basically your new light is the same set up as a flex light

[@thepowerisinyou2886]

@@Paul-vq8fk Ye but now you have to make a big hole to fit the JB through. I just prefer the old way less wires. But ye if the new light fitting covers the hole and you have enough wood left to screw it to.

[@shaunbeard593]

Have only just found this video brilliant explanation as switch line confused me

[@GSHElectrical]

Thanks for watching Gaz

[@shaunbeard593]

GSH Electrical Have all your videos in a playlist on KZbin they big help

[@GSHElectrical]

When I started out 18 months ago I never thought anyone would watch them so I greatly appreciate the support and feedback. All the best Gaz

[@budibausto]

My lamp has one blue, one brown and one green/yellow cable...do I need to connect the earth cable as well or it's fine just with the brown and blue one? noob here

[@GSHElectrical]

Hi. If the fitting is metal it is like that it needs connecting to the earth terminal within the fitting.

[@budibausto]

GSH Electrical thank you for replying. I just left the earth on disconnected and it works just fine with the other 2 on. I just don't understand why it came ( the lamp) with the earth one as well.

[@bradreeve6233]

budibausto the earth only protects the circuit or you from a fault.

[@Paul-vq8fk]

@@budibausto If its a metal fitting you should always connect the earth wire

[@a_l7515]

where did you get the Intro music from?

[@GSHElectrical]

Hi. It’s been such along time I cannot remember 🤔.

[@dan.goodwin]

It’s called Lune - Y&V

[@explorewithant]

I’ve got 1 black wire on its own and 3 other black wire together on the other side,,,is my single black wire your blue wire with the bit of brown covering on it,,think mines a 4 way rose

[@aidencunningham5404]

Is it the same way if you want two light's?

[@GSHElectrical]

Hi. The switching arrangement is the same but so two lights come on together the second light need connecting to the neutral and switching and not the loop. Hope this helps GSH Electrical

[@aidencunningham5404]

GSH Electrical hi thank you so much, a couldn't find anything to help me.

[@alpachino468]

A good way of remembering that the brown cable is live, is that that's the same colour your pants are going to end up being if you ever touch one

[@saturdaysbomber7502]

I've got power back everything works in all room's except the light switch. It's constantly turned on

[@GSHElectrical]

Hi. Possibly you have both the cables from the light switch in the loop in terminals at the light 🤔. This would cause the light to be permanent on... good luck Gaz 👍

[@saturdaysbomber7502]

@@GSHElectrical cheers bud. Problem was in actual light switch

[@robertfollows4428]

@@saturdaysbomber7502 i kno this is crazy but how did you fix this?

[@blackburn_end9025]

Nice vid

[@GSHElectrical]

+football crazy Thanks for your support GSH Electrical

[@arinb12]

Always find the 3 plate method causes problems with new light fittings that dont have that much space for 3 cables behind them

[@shamimghori4380]

👍

[@GSHElectrical]

Thanks

[@StarWarsCosplay]

Finally I understand it. This explains it all so well. Quite chuffed I'm the 100th comment too :-) subscribe too.

[@dennisbracey3031]

K

[@vidomotors9924]

Yeah, so how to get N to the light switch??? And what idiot let to use this stupid system in the houses....

[@GSHElectrical]

Lighting Circuit 2 Plate Method Taking the Feed to the Switch and Connecting a 1 Way Switch & Light kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z3iXl4poecqkhqM

[@amyjojinkerson6745]

who taught you guys how to wire a clown