3 REASONS WHY 12 VOLT IS BETTER, 12 Volt clearly is the better choice for off grid systems

[@OldGriz406]

"Survive comfortably on very little" Yep, that's where I am trying to get to. Great video!

[@richardsandwell2285]

Well done for going that way, we need to smash those greedy billionaire energy bosses, I am doing the same, it is hard work needs a lot of thought a bit of money but I am mostly offgrid not and on the cusp of bringing online another bank of solar panels.

[@jimthomas777]

You said at 3:50 that all autos are 24 volts and 12 volts was flashing on the video , I know what you meant to say , I like 12 Volt system too , My Solar Panels are 12 Volt My 4 P.M.A.s are 12 Volt My inverters are 12 Volt Batteries are 12 Volt And every is cheaper and easier to get I hooked up a 12 volt car light to one of my PMA and spun it with my hand , yes it lit up for a split second , I haven't been working on my VAWT , I been building a Forge to melt copper, brass, Aluminum . I have been collecting parts for the VAWT and it's coming along , but slowly And I'm putting a small block Chevy V-8 into an S-10 that had a 4 cylinder I'll send you some pictures of everything my Off Grid Friend and give you a Thumbs up on this 24 Volt video , I mean 12

[@truesimplicity]

It is of great benefit to hear your real world exoerience with 12 volt systems...

[@billwhoever2830]

I got a 5500VA inverter for 550€ and it has a MPPT charger up to 450V peak voltage and 16A for the panels Insane deal and ofc its 48V Running a high power inverter out of 12V is either impossible or a waste, making a high power inverter run off 12V will require the inverter manufacturer to use larger components due to the much higher current from the battery-charger. A 5500VA is required if you want to run almost anything. Currently I can run one dish washer, one washing machine and one dryer all at the same time. This is important since most of the solar power comes during the day and you can avoid higher battery capacity requirements if you manage to sqeeze all your energy heavy activities during the day.

[@nomadicoasis9260]

12 volt appliances are definitely the way to go (more available) but 12 volt doesn't travel far. so for 30 bucks i got a gadget to step 48V down to 12V best of both worlds. my panels are 80ft. from the power shed and the power shed is a 100ft. from the cabin. i step 48v down to 12v in the cabin. as wall as run 120v to the cabin. with the sun so far from the cabin i had no real choice... on my old sail boat it was all 12v (& 120v) ... so no long runs no problem.

[@Zigfried_von_Stahl]

Кроме всего перечисленного следует отметить что низковольтные системы безопаснее и могут быть использованы в влажных помещениях, а для быстрой зарядки батарей можно легко использовать не только солнечные панели и ветряки, но и обычный генератор от автомобиля. Перед 24в системами у 12в есть один минус: при той же мощности ток в два раза больше, всё остальное одинаково: большинство автоаксессуаров и бытовых устройств для автономного дома производится и на напряжение 24в для европейских грузовиков, те же холодильники и чайники с кофеварками. Спасибо за интересное видео, удачи вам!

[@veggitarianredneck]

Thank you for the comment, I'm glad Google translates. I am going to start looking into some European 24 volt accessories now.

[@jackhawk8952]

We run a 12v propane furnace off grid to keep our place warm at night while we sleep... We got 600 wats of solar and 5 100 amp hour batteries... gets below zero here in eastern Oregon.. Were actually selling our homestead and moving to Montana due to the county harrassment..

[@veggitarianredneck]

Oregon has gone down the tubes hasn't it. Toughest thing about moving to Montana is finding affordable housing. Land can be a little more manageable if your into building

[@jackhawk8952]

@@veggitarianredneck plan on doing the same thing we did here.. buying bare land and building it out.. Found some pretty reasonable lots so far.. Just keeping my fingers crossed that the idiot's don't vote our rights away next time around.. Lots of hard work clearing fencing and building on bare land but it's what we do..

[@veggitarianredneck]

@@jackhawk8952 I hear you. So far so good here in the free state of Montana. Good luck my brother.

[@jackhawk8952]

@@veggitarianredneck Thank's i appreciate it..

[@closertothetruth9209]

you guys in your part of the world are lucky , everything at your fingertips, we would have to import many of the things you guys have available in the US.

[@veggitarianredneck]

So many people here have forgotten that too. Where about do you live?

[@Heimbasteln]

@@veggitarianredneck Here in Europe where I live we can get almost everything, but the prices for tech are usually 20-40% higher. But on the other side our windows are cheaper than if you would buy similar ones in the US.

[@alan-qd3vb]

maybe in a vehicle or a really small system, there is plenty of advantages to go to higher voltage, most vehicles alternators are not ground isolated and are grounded through the case, but they do make them, but I would think you could isolate 2 alternators if you wanted to charge thar route plenty of composite materials that are not conductive then just run each alternator to its own battery.

[@marijanmahne]

Hi, I am not an electrician or simillar and I have verry litlle basics on the subject. My first solar project/idea is adding an solar powered 3kW electric heater into my heat water tank. ( It is a 1000 L, I think this is arround 300 gal? ) The problem with 12V is that I can find only heaters with a max of 700-800 W and there is only one suitable predisposition for heater installation on my tank. So now I am reasoning with 24 or even 48 V. The next solar upgrade would be beck up power for pumps and valves of my heating sys and here begins the battery thing... which in my case it is an extension of the solar sys for my non-winter use. Please, any comments are wellcome.

[@veggitarianredneck]

Yes this is a serious limitation to the 12 volt system, and the reason why so many go to 24/48 volts. In your situation it's definitely the right way to go to transfer more power into making hot water. And to keep wire sizing hence costs to a minimum.

[@marijanmahne]

@@veggitarianredneck Thanks for the comment. I realy appriciate you takeing your time. I plan to build my solar in some steps and in different specialy dedicated circuits ( hope I am clear what I meen). First is the central heating, then maby I will focus on food freezer & cooking. Transportation and/or working veichle/machine could follow... 😉

[@margarita8442]

go 48 volt

[@marijanmahne]

@@margarita8442 yea, after some reasoning & calcs... different things are getting me to the 48...

[@margarita8442]

12 volt is ok if you own a copper mine

[@veggitarianredneck]

Lol, good point

[@margarita8442]

48 volt is the way to go

[@ml5554]

still, most solarpanels are 30 - 40volts wich means with a 24 volt system u could do with a simple charge regulator . The 12 volt then can still be taken from the batteries (12v+12v parallel).

[@veggitarianredneck]

Ok so have a 24 volt system but take 12 volt from your batteries to power 12 stuff....I like

[@ml5554]

@@veggitarianredneck assuming most users need ac voltage. (115/230v). And 24 lights are also available. But but yeah the 12v inverter is prob. cheaper.

[@Heimbasteln]

If you use a 24v system where you have 2 12v batteries in series, you shouldnt just use 12v from one battery, because that will throw the batteries out of balance. Just use a step down converter instead, they have a low standby usage and usually a pretty high efficiency. I have a 48V system in my home and I run most things off of 230V (Europe), but some things use 12V and for that I use a step down converter. Another advantage of a step down converter, is that it always provides 12V, not 13 or 11, if you use 12V LED strips they will burn out quicker on 13 or 14V because they use resistive droppers and 3 LEDs in Series.

[@USA-GreedyMenOfNoIntegrity]

Maybe, if we live in a tiny home.

[@talusranch990]

12v appliances suck