3 Supro Amps Comparison - Shootout - Black Magick Vs Thunderbolt Vs Coronado

1695T Black Magick Vs 1690T Coronado Vs S6420 Thunderbolt using a Gibson Les Paul 1959 Standard Reissue. Close mic Shure Unidyne IV 548, Room mic AKG C414 B XLII (Omni) at 10-12 feet. Recoreded with Ipad / Cubasis / Apogee Duet.

[@SpedSpedding]

Amazing demo of them all. Some of the most tasteful awesome playing I’ve heard in a shoot out like this! Much rather hear big chunky riffs like this than a load of solos.

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks! Glad you like it!

[@dinosaursdoingtherobot850]

You want all the secrets normally I do not tell these things to anyone but when you give so much the universe gives back so here is how the story goes jimi was recording stairway to heaven and wanted to make his guitar sound as close to a medieval lyre guitar as possible so when he heard the supro 1690 he say it had that perfect tinsely sound that he could not get from any other amp so he recorded the intro to stairway with the 1690 stock then because they did not have that much money to go out and buy gear he moded the amp for the rest of the album

[@27cancega]

I played my new black magick 1695 this weekend at a club date and I am extremely happy and will be using it for all my club and festival dates this year. John great playing, I really appreciate your timing and syncopation.

[@keesgroen1814]

Really liked the 6420 Thunderbolt. It's 15" speaker gives such a nice depth to the tone. Like a warm blanket on a cold day.

[@JohanSegeborn]

+Kees Groen Thanks! Nice description

[@sofiabouchard4100]

your way,to play in absolute freedom,is a great lesson for every musician.you teach to enter,simply,into the MUSIC.

[@RedWolf5]

I just bought the black magick and arrives in a couple days! This video really help me have a reference on these 3 amps and even though all 3 of them sound phenomenal I believe my choice to go for the magick is the right one for me! Thank you for the video

[@JohanSegeborn]

+Red Wolf Thanks! Glad to hear it. You won't be disappointed!

[@benlogan430]

Sweet vid! I like em all. Each time you played one I thought that one sounded the best!

[@mikewilkinson694]

Exactly!

[@lennyced31]

Thanks Johan !!! I was really waiting for such a work on KZbin ! Very good job.

[@JohanSegeborn]

+lennyced31 Thanks Lenny! Good to hear.

[@2121toso]

Fantastic. Thanks. I was able to play one today and was blown away

[@alexnackman4388]

Great playing. Great demo. We really can hear the nuances of each amp.

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks Alex, I’m glad to hear that!

[@bushibayushi]

No one does it better than you Johan, I'm always amazed by the tone and raw power of your riffs ;]

[@JohanSegeborn]

+bushibayushi you make my day :-)

[@ScotDvorak]

Great demo. Love that you played totally relevant styles for these types of amps! They all have their "thing" but yet are all unmistakably "SUPRO"!Dig em all!!!I think I lean toward the Black Magick, simply for the slightly thicker gain... But the sweet picking "ping" in the top end on the Coronado has its own tastiness to it, as well!!! Sounds like it would be phenomenal in a full band mix!Cheers!!

[@JohanSegeborn]

+Scot Dvorak Thanks Scot! Yeah the Coronado really finds its way in mixes. I love it. Cheers Johan

[@theodore738]

2:39 riff of the century

[@gabet3754]

Sweet, right?

[@ghostexits]

He's plays this jam in a lot of demos... what is it?

[@TheMadStrater]

Love your playing, and great demo!

[@MrMonsterRain]

Shit. Now I have to buy all three. Thanks for the review. It's nice to get the comparison of each amp one right after another with no talking in between. Allows the listener to really distinguish the differences. Keep up the good work!

[@christianmeza4529]

Great playing, Thanks for the review. I like all of them.

[@paradox7743]

Nice Demo /Excellent playing that demonstrates the best capability of each amp/Black Magick is the Beast!

[@superman-el9jd]

The Coronado sounds best to my ear with a Les Paul.Thank for the demo Johan. You are the best!

[@JohanSegeborn]

+Bernie Duggan Thanks, it's a good match indeed

[@WesleyACDCRythms]

I love the new riffs and licks

[@JohanSegeborn]

+Wesley ACDCRythms Thanks! Makes me glad :-) Cheers! Johan

[@roeletti]

Wauw, i didn't expect these lower wattage amps to sound so open and chimy! great demo's as always! Cheers

[@JohanSegeborn]

+roeletti Thanks! Glad to hear that. Cheers Johan

[@GuajoloteGonzales]

Yeah, i was also very skeptical about smallish amps because in forums and youtube has the bad reputation of being "boxy", but after i've heard some of the iconic 50's Fender "tweed" models, i could say that the typical "small amp = boxy" thing is not true, most of the "tweed" amps are very transparent sounding, even with humbuckers, and i can say that "boxiness" is more about circuitry and/or speaker type, because even big amps can do sound nasal and thuddy, by example, Marshalls and Orange amps tends to sound like that, but isn't just the circuitry that is designed to have that characteristic "mid hump" but also because most of them uses ceramic Celestions that are very mid focused, also, some big "brownface" and "blackface" Fenders had some boxiness on them, even if they had a mid scoop and it was because some had Oxford speakers, that were know to sound very mid focused.

[@SS_Psyops]

Small combos have always been the way to go. The 300 watt monstrosity’s are great if you want everyone at the club to wear earplugs and lose all the top end and definition…. You have to remember guitar players are usually dorks not artists and they have really dumb opinions on things.

[@svarthelikoptern]

Thank you so much for doing these, Johan. Ever since your Coronado demo a few months ago I have been interested in Supro amps. Your comparison really puts things into perspective. All very nice amps. Personally I think I prefer the Coronado, then the Black Magick. Love your channel! Vi är Johan fans allihopa!

[@JohanSegeborn]

+Raunch Thank you so much! :-) A fellow Swede?

[@svarthelikoptern]

I wish! Maybe in another life I was? I've been to Sweden many times, in fact all over except Göteborg. Love your channel, btw. Har det bra :-)

[@JohanSegeborn]

+Raunch Ha det bra du med! :-)

[@LetItBleedRecording]

Great video, thanks! Now I want all 3

[@JohanSegeborn]

+LetItBleedRecording Glad to hear it :-)

[@harleybrujo]

Amazing review as usuall! Cheers my friend! Jorge

[@JohanSegeborn]

+harleybrujo Cheers bro!

[@freerun1080]

Great Video man, Really loved it!

[@JohanSegeborn]

+SasP Thanks, I'm really glad to hear that. Cheers Johan

[@James-eg3nf]

That S6420 Thunderbolt sounds so sweet...definitely my fav. To my ears, it's more of a Zep sound than any of the others.

[@JohanSegeborn]

+James Pino I also thought it had a Zeppelin vibe to it. But I don't know if he ever used the 15". Traveling Riverside Blues kind of sounds like it though. Cheers Johan

[@Adwardok81]

Amazing tones as usual! Love the black magic

[@JohanSegeborn]

+Alexis Férat Thanks Alexis! Glad to hear it

[@Dagger_323]

Looks like I need a Supro now... lol. Unbelievable tones through that Black Magick and Coronado!!

[@JohanSegeborn]

+Dagger 323 Cheers! :-)

[@Dudenez67]

Just bought the Black Magic. Amazing amp.

[@SolidSmashies]

I'll echo +Coco Mandrake ... all of these amps sound outstanding. The Black Magic stands out to me the most. Great demo!

[@JohanSegeborn]

+SolidSmashies Thanks!

[@fonzybrookestone727]

Great riffs! Amps sound awesome!

[@AYACSM]

My favorite is the Coronado. Great Playing and useful demonstration.

[@THEPRO100000]

They all sound great, nice video.

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks! :-) Glad to hear it. Cheers Johan

[@twirlyboggs]

2:40 uh-HUH i can see you had a FUN day !!! whoa..... the Thunderbolt is my fav AWESOME demo!

[@JohanSegeborn]

+frank Thanks Frank, glad to hear it! I had a great time making it.

[@jackp.walker6247]

GREAT demo - hahahahahaaaa, as always ! Thanks Johan !

[@MrGermanCraft]

What can I say, your videos ROCK !

[@JohanSegeborn]

+Michael Thanks Michael! Really glad to hear it!

[@juliochingaling5824]

Excellent video and excellent amps.

[@CARLOSVSCARLOS]

Love these amps. I have a Royal reissue (2x10s). It is fantastic, like all their reissues. Thinking of getting a vintage Supro at some point, as their prices aren’t really that crazy.

[@gib412]

The Coronado is the sweetest to my ears. Thanks again Maestro Johan!

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks my friend!

[@TrippingTheTube]

They all sound great!

[@glennevans5824]

That Coronado with the 2 10's has something unique about that tone.i agree with you that it sounds very much like the zep 1 flavor.oh nice demonstration.playing and pick attack.

[@mattbortz10]

Love your vids and your hat!

[@MaestroZ]

Jimmy didn't mod the amp until it was smashed. Led Zeppelin 1 was recorded with an original 2X10 1958 Coronado. Those of us who have heard an original healthy Coronado have been amazed at the amount of crunch these amps have. Great overdrive and amazing compression. These amps have 4 different inputs that are voiced differently. "Communication Breakdown" is input number one which is voiced very midrangey. The second channel has an insane amount of gain too. Somebody eventually smashed the amp and damaged the 2x10 baffle board and he had a single 12 Oxford with a new baffle board installed. Whether the solo on Stairway was done with the new 12 installed or still the original 2x10 only Jimmy knows (or doesnt care to remember). Im guessing the amp could have been smashed sometime in the early 70s. But all those sessions he did in the 60s were done with that Coronado 2x10 and/or a Vox amp.

[@Ronnie631000]

Excellent comparison. Rock`On! From Sioux City,Ia.

[@JohanSegeborn]

+Ronnie631000 Thanks! Cheers from Gothenburg Sweden!

[@mitchellferre1652]

I love the Johan Boogie at 2:40 ! Black Magic for me ! Thanks Johan! : )

[@JohanSegeborn]

+Mitchell Ferre Thanks Mitchell!! :-) And the song is christened! Cheers!

[@dumaflotchy13]

Excellent video/demo .... 🙂

[@Diax1324]

I love 10 inch speakers. The way they compress the sound is super cool.

[@JohanSegeborn]

+Diax1324 Thanks, yeah compressed but still punchy

[@davidfellows6250]

Your playing,as always is spectacular. I think i like the thunderbolt the best.

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks David, that’s so good to hear! Cheers

[@IncompleteStranger]

I own the thunderbolt myself. The reissue was my first REAL amp purchase that wasn’t a shitty practice amp, and since I’ve had others but I always come back to my Thunderbolt+ because it’s just so damn good.

[@kommi1974]

They all sound awesome.

[@JohanSegeborn]

+kommi1974 Thanks! Great to hear. :-)

[@rossdixonellis]

2:45 THAT'S a smokin' riff!

[@charly611pm]

Damn that was fun! But I think the Coronado for zeppelin 1 alll three sound great and your playing Johan is just really nice fun great

[@nicfield6895]

I felt the 1x12 did the best with what you were playing and with how the mic picked it up, but the 1x15 sounds like magic with some reverb straight to the ear.

[@JohanSegeborn]

+nic field Thanks Nic

[@macklu7571]

You've convinced me to get a 2x10 and 1x15 cabinets.

[@user-bk8db7ud6k]

I've been playing 30 years, zillions of hours, and I've never once sat on the floor like that to play. Gonna go do it right now...

[@JohanSegeborn]

+Devil8d hahaha, cheers my friend!

[@auntjenifer7774]

47 *That almost seems impossible that you've been playing guitar for more than 20 minutes and haven't already been in that exact position to read the tablature to your favorite song the song that made you want to play guitar in the first place*

[@alecboyyes]

Great demo as always. The Dual-Tone may be even closer to Jimmy's tone that the Coronado, it's the 24 watt 1x12 combo with the odd 6973 power tubes. I also believe LZ1 was predominantly recorded with a Telecaster and possibly a tonebender fuzz (or was that LZ2?)

[@JohanSegeborn]

Hopefully I'll get my hands on a Dual tone soon and I'll compare them. The question is: 10" or 12" and American or British!

[@seamushawks2190]

Johan Segeborn I tried a tone bender II with my black magick and it made it much MUCH more Zeppelin like, worth trying. Loud amp, tone bender, volume dialed back slightly, it’s a monster combination

[@paulstanley3019]

thanks great demo

[@JohanSegeborn]

+Paul Stanley Thanks!

[@margovallen]

Just scored a Supro Thunderbolt and love it.

[@wils5452]

Still got the amp mate

[@gutbucket260]

Hard to pick a winner, they're all good. I like the Black Magick the best though.

[@naakatube]

Great video I subscribed!!!

[@JohanSegeborn]

+Nicola D'Elia Glad to hear it, welcome to the channel!

[@carlob95]

I love theses amps!

[@jkf9167]

They all sound great, but I don't know why everyone is so crazed for the Black Majick when the Thunderbolt sounds like it's gonna jump though the video screen and strangle you. And make you like it!

[@JohanSegeborn]

+Josh Feierman haha :-) yeah the Thunderbolt sounds the bluesiest by far!

[@KB_Joys]

Id say they favor the BM for its drive

[@SS_Psyops]

The Thunderbolt sounds head and shoulders above to me. In the last few days I’ve decided to buy one after only hearing the BlackMagick before because everyone raved about it.. no surprise honestly I’m usuallt left wondering what the fuss is about with music.

[@thisisgeorge2117]

If I had to pick it would be the Coronado. But... each have something distinguishing about them. Each brings something nice to the table.

[@davidcudlip6587]

The Black Magic sounds great with P90 pickups. Haven't tried the other two Supros yet.

[@nickh1933]

The coronado does sound a lot like Zep 1. Very cutting in the highs with tight mids and that signature chirp on the pick attack. The others sound great but a bit scooped.

[@JohanSegeborn]

+NicksRSR Thanks Nick, I like it best too

[@huskvarsm]

the break up is more fierce on these amps but they put me in mind of an early to mid 70s ORANGE HEAD very brittle but with enough bottom end to balance it these amps would be perfect for someone who likes their blues heavy and bright say a tele player who craves sustain and who has a hard pick attack. nice one johan.

[@JohanSegeborn]

+huskvarsm Thanks man, I agree about the Orange reference. Gonna compare a Supro to a '76 OR80 soon. Cheers Johan

[@bdunn315]

OH the tone at 4:09 is.....SOOOO GOOOOOOOD.

[@jwmcmillenii]

Killer tones, sir! How do you get so much of that badass "chirp" in your pick attack with everything you play? It's every time, so it must be the player.

[@joshdwyer1494]

Hey johan, love the way you play, wondering what you listen to most and if these kind of riffs are yours and improvised or based on original songs

[@revelry1969]

yes supposedly 1624T with 6973 tubes. check out the early 60/61 model. similar skunk stripe like the black magick. he supposedly removed the tremolo tube fire more gain. thanks for the awesome demo! to my ears the first album was a 1x12. remember his mic setup was how he made it sound huge. check out Royal amps

[@JohanSegeborn]

+Bf Crossley Thanks! Yeah he's a master of capturing the room. Gonna check out the Royal! Cheers Johan

[@Kessellish]

Black Magick is such a stunning amp.

[@gauloiscalifornien]

The 1*15 is moving air!! Nice video.

[@JohanSegeborn]

+gauloiscalifornien Thanks!

[@whatyoumakeofit6635]

man u love your videos. I'm always happy to see a new one pop up.but, y are u always sitting 9n the floor? y not a chair? love ya love your vids, keep it up

[@JohanSegeborn]

+Bryan Keith Thanks man!

[@tunaXonXtoast]

I love the boxy sound of the thunderbolt.

[@JohanSegeborn]

+tunaXonXtoast Yeah it has a great crude tone

[@thos1618]

Crude was the word I used too.

[@motownfreak15]

Hey Johan! Could you do a comparison between the dual tone, black magick and any others you have that use 6973s? Love your stuff, btw! :)

[@JohanSegeborn]

+motownfreak15 Thanks! Yeah I hope to do the Dual Tone soon

[@mirage-tomadams1originalne37]

the actual Amp was a Coranado. It fell out of a truck and was modded to fit a 12” cab. and the circuit was changed. It has no back either.

[@elonmush4793]

Supro amps should be much more common. They are fantastic.

[@ScotianBlooded]

agree i only heard about them because of the band highly suspect

[@fezzbonnet4079]

Thank you so much for making this comparison video. I've been eyeing both the Black Magick and the Coronado for a while to replace my aging Vox AD50, but I haven't been able to jam on them. I am kinda leaning towards the Coronado, but I'm a huge Zeppelin/Jimmy Page fan so, I'm kinda torn. Does the Coronado have any issues with the lower end of the midrange or the bottom end? I play lead guitar, but I also like my tone to have a nice rounded bottom end. With them two 10" speakers I would think it would have a brighter sound with very limited bottom. The Black Magick just seems to have too much gain.

[@JohanSegeborn]

+Fezz Bonnet Thanks! I actually think the Coronado sounds the most like Zeppelin 1 and the Black Magick like Zeppelin 2. I think the Coronado has a balanced tone, with enough lows

[@russellesimonetta3835]

The cool thing about supro,s , the vintage ones, is to save money and build them to a price point they used ceramic disc caps as much as possible!

[@garyharrison8891]

The blackjack reminds me of the Marshall JTM45. Especially on the second sound clip of it.

[@PoJoWo]

That 15 lends a nice open bottom end. Would be great for some Creedence or Tony Joe white. Bet it was nice with the ever lovely choco strat :-). I hear what you say about the tens vs the 12 for the zeppelin sound. There's so many potential variables. Roger mayer says he was making Jimmy treble boosters and such like well back into his session days.

[@JohanSegeborn]

+PoJoWo yeah, there is indeed an enormous amount of variables that probably potentially could get Z1 tones from 1x12 as well as 2x10

[@thekitowl]

Johan, just found a picture of Jimmy on stage with the Yardbirds & next to his larger set up , on the floor is his Supro. It has the grill cloth Cut away in the middle & you can clearly see the single speaker. Hope that helps.

[@JohanSegeborn]

Thanks! Yeah I’ve heard that he put a Celestion Greenback in it. I have since I did this video learned that he didn’t use the Supro on the first album though, but a Vox Super Beatle according to this book www.amazon.com/Light-Shade-Conversations-Jimmy-Page/dp/030798575X

[@thekitowl]

Johan Segeborn I’ve found a picture of Jimmy ,with the super Beatle using Rickenbacker cab’s. If you look between his legs you will spot the Supro. I don’t think we can rely to much on what Jimmy says. He’s either vague or doesn’t remember. JPJ in an interview said Jimmy used a variety of small amps in the studio. I personally think he used one amp for rhythm & others for solo’s & riffs as they all sit sonically together. www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/559431584936182311/

[@NoyzyBoyZ3]

Greetings Johan!! I have to say I do like the tone coming from that 15"speaker,but I don't think I would use one.I'm so spoiled by Celestion speakers,that whichever one I would buy,I would change the speakers anyway.Good to see and hear you again.Take care of yourself.Don.

[@JohanSegeborn]

+NoyzyBoyZ3 Thanks my friend! Yeah the bright breakuo of a Greenback is hard to replace!

[@mr.glabalabadubeestuthemex3845]

The coronado and the black magick sound best for lead, but there's something about the warmth from the Thunderbolt that sounds great for rhythm playing. Would be interested to hear a Strat with the Thunderbolt

[@darwinsaye]

Considering all the hype these amps get, I'm a bit underwhelmed. The Thunderbolt sounded very good, but I found the Coronado sounded boxy like a small practice amp, and the Black Magick sounded shrill and piercing. Great demo, as always Johan! :)

[@davidcudlip6587]

Need to be heard in a band mix to appreciate the sound. They cut thru very nicely.

[@S0UNDC1TY]

Fantastic fantastic fantastic

[@rocknroor]

also don't know if you've heard of simo but there one of my favorite bands jd simo guitar and vocals uses a lot of vintage gear and has a rig rundown for premier guitar on you tube that's pretty good and funny

[@JohanSegeborn]

+rocknroor JD Simo is great!

[@randytinsley9402]

The Supro Statesman is also a great amp. Combines Thunderbolt and the Comet.

[@williamemilceleiro9857]

BADASS playing!!!

[@lastofthe4horsemen279]

Supro amps sound amazing

[@_patrikjay_]

Thanks for this video....

[@ireneruthfox]

I always loved the Thunderbolt........But my god the Black Magic is sublime. Must have both.

[@cliffords2315]

The THUNDERBOLT has that Zepplin Sound!!! love it

[@kierenmoore3236]

I'll take a Coronado/Thunderbolt stack, and a Y-splitter cable, please ... :) All these great videos are making me very greedy ... ;P

[@Snowy0123]

that Black magic sounds amazing.

[@JohanSegeborn]

+Brian J Thanks Brian, yeah I liked them all!

[@vibrevtonez2421]

They all sound great! Thunderbolt sounds the best to me followed by the Coranado then the Black Magick. I own a Dual-Tone which sounds alot like the Coranado and a Saturn Reverb which has an awesome reverb and tremelo. Amazing amps!

[@JohanSegeborn]

+Tyson Robb Thanks Tyson! I love these amps too. Cheers Johan

[@vibrevtonez2421]

+Johan Segeborn How much louder/increased headroom would you say the Thunderbolt has campared to the other two?

[@JohanSegeborn]

+Tyson Robb The Thunderbolt and the Coronado have the same output power and tubes so any differences would stem from speaker efficiency. I thought they were equally loud.

[@tomfishman]

Sounds great dude! What kind of pickups do you have in that 59 LP?

[@JohanSegeborn]

+Tom Fishman Thanks Tom, I have a Custombucker in the bridge and a BB1 in the neck

[@glaucosantiago]

All are amazing! But the Black Magic really made magic in my ears ...

[@JohanSegeborn]

+Glauco Santiago Thanks man! It's the British voiced amp whereas the other two are more American. Cheers

[@fabiogramani3849]

Hi there Johan! Have you tried the 1600 Supreme? I was thinking of buying one but I’m a little afraid the 10 inch speaker won’t sound full......Cheers!

[@eternallearner8185]

I liked the clean sound of the thunderbolt.

[@uwemmcc]

Very Spicy!!!! Crunch@its best!!!!

[@JohanSegeborn]

+Uwe Marquardt Thanks Uwe! :-)

[@jakehall9300]

OMG! That riff at 2:40 had stank on it! Is that a song I haven’t heard or something he just made up?

[@22julip]

I thought the coranado was the one Jimmy used of course it was modified and he had it during the session days I believe .the all sound good . I had a Supro amp forgot the model but it was my favorite I which I kept it . Because now I can’t afford the luxury. I have a katana mk 2 50 which is awesome too I do have a thunderbolt tone patch , sounds great ,!