3 wheeler Fixing and Playing 1983 HONDA ATC200e

[@fern9234]

Man does that bring back memories! All my friends and I had one and we would go and get muddy every weekend. I had the 200S. With the right pipe it sounded amazing. Always having to tinker with something but they never died. Parts before the internet were always a pain to get. Luckily, they rarely needed anything. With the type of riding we did in the South Florida muck brakes were non existent. Either the mud would slow you down or we would just rammed into something to stop the thing. Such good times! Thanks for taking me back there.

[@sixtyfiveford]

So cool. My first was the tiny ATC70. I would ride my bike to the local dealership and look at the microfiche slides to find the parts I needed. I remember the parts being pretty cheap; affordable at least with my small wallet.

[@fern9234]

@@sixtyfivefordMicrofiche! Yes! That was the Google search back then lol. For us there was just one mom & pop shop that was owned by this older couple (or so we thought, he was probably 40 lol) , a man that could barely walk from riding dirt bikes in his youth. I remember always dealing with fuel issues from our rusted out tanks that we couldn't afford to replace and stators from dunking them in mud at full throttle and of course swamped pull start mechanisms. ...and of course a new bag of zip ties to sew the cracked plastics together.

[@markyedlicka]

Thanks for the worn out chain check tip, I always learn something watching

[@tomh.648]

Wonderful memories for me. After one nearly killed me (hit a tree attempting a sharp 90°) as a n00b, I went on to own & master an ATC90 (don't laugh), a 200S, and a 250R. Loved them all.

[@sixtyfiveford]

DANG. I learned on a ATC70. Then went to Polaris ATVs.

[@Wil_Liam1]

On honda rear drums, there is a dot stamped into the brake shaft and an arrow stamped into the brake lever that, when aligned together, index that lever properly for optimum leverage at the correct angle .. If those marks are together,the cablebis fully adjusted inwards,and the foot lever is still out of adjustment,then it's new cable time, or BFH bracket adjustment time..

[@debluetailfly]

One of those 3 wheelers was my first attempt at riding anything with a foot operated transmission. The rear brakes were worn out, and the owner said they wore out real quick and didn't want to spend money on replacing them any more.. The front brake worked, but would lock up, and if you used it you had to come to a complete stop and reach down to release it. I was told to just downshift to slow down. I rode it around a bit and started down a mild grade toward the lake. I tried to downshift but it kept picking up speed. I tried several times with same result. Finally decided I better use the front brake before I got wet. When I inquired why downshifting was not working, the owner says "oh, I put synthetic oil in the engine, and you have to rev it up to get compression, and then it will slow you down". I love it when people forget to tell me important details!

[@sixtyfiveford]

Fun times!

[@Rein_Ciarfella]

Ginger’s vocalisations when she first jumped aboard were priceless! 🐕 Oh, and great work reviving that trike! 😉🔧👍

[@sixtyfiveford]

Oh yeah!

[@RinoaL]

The 185 was the first vehicle I ever drove as a kid. I love honda 3 wheelers so much.

[@sixtyfiveford]

An electric conversion would be neat!

[@1970chevelle396]

My aunt had a 3 wheeler Honda that she bought new in the mid 80's. She rode it only a few times. And recently sold it.

[@TheShadeTreeFixitMan]

Nice recovery on that old girl. Very similar to my SX200 4 wheeler, though mine has electric start. Mine sat in a field for 10 years before I rescued it.

[@sixtyfiveford]

Yeah, virtually the same thing. But you get 4 wheels and a reverse. Great reliable machines with minimal maintenance.

[@coburnlowman]

I have one of these 200cc Big Red , shaft drive. It's solid rear suspension as well. Carried thousands of bails of hay out to the cows n horses in the winter months. I let it set with old gas in it for several years. The hi low transmission is great for moving trailers around. These things are just big enough to move big things around with , but small enough to get into really tight places. Had many four wheelers, but the Big Red did more work than any of them. The brakes are not an issue. When you head off a steep hill just put it in double low. Gear it down as you come to a stop. I traded a sound mechanical Suzuki 230 for it. The fellow I traded it out of kept trying to get old Big Red back for years after we traded. Honda really got things rite with these. The reverse would have been an issue using it as a farm vehicle. Didn't know they made one without reverse

[@sixtyfiveford]

I didn't know they came without reverse either. I guess only the 82 and 83 didn't have reverse and were chain drive. 84 is when they move to the shaft and reverse. I've had a lot of go-karts over the years without reverse and I'm kind of used to it but don't like it. You get used to pulling up on embankments and using gravity as your reverse.

[@transmitterguy478]

That was made the year me and my wife were married! Oct 15 23 will be 40 YEARS! Good luck with your repair.🥳

[@sixtyfiveford]

That is awesome!

[@Hotdaddy536]

Not bad easy fix..ginger said i want to ride in front..so she did.. she's so cool..you should do a video on her you know like how long you've had her.. pictures when she was a puppy.. how old she is..she sure is smart..see you on the next one cheers 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@alancummings5008]

Love the bar oil tip! Hadn’t really thought of that

[@sixtyfiveford]

Thanks; I find it works fantastic. It's dirt cheap and is exactly what it was designed to do.

[@dwaynelejeune3508]

Nice find don’t know how I survived riding that death trap as a teen!!!!! Lol

[@sixtyfiveford]

The fun of being a kid.

[@yukonjack.]

Brings back memories, my Honda was a 1982,,185s... Damn it seems like yesterday, where have all the Good times gone?! 🙄

[@kennethc8182]

If you cleaned brake arm you will see mark and also on shaft for brake shoes. Worked at honda dealer in LA Repaired a ton of them.

[@wayneo7307]

Cool Moe ! Love Ginger Going For The Ride With You. That Reminds Me of My Yamaha 200E Three Wheeler . They're Only As Dangerous as The Driver ! I Used to Do Donuts on Two Wheels All The Time Along with Wheelstands ! I Had A Lot Of Fun !

[@sixtyfiveford]

Sounds like a blast!

[@lewiemcneely9143]

I remember well everybody getting skinned up on these. I had a Husky 450 WR but didn't ride it like that and Ginger is no back seat driver. Blessings and Lucas is in everybody's big truck straight drive trannys and rear ends here. Good stuff AS well as the chain lube.

[@sixtyfiveford]

I can't convince Ginger the back seat is a good place to sit.

[@lewiemcneely9143]

Heard too much about a back seat driver!@@sixtyfiveford

[@derpydog1008]

Atc guy here about the 200e/200es front forks, the parts to rebuild them have been discontinued for a loooong time so what we do is we swap the whole front end with either a 200m or 200s because you can get rebuild kits for them and you get better suspension also you can cut the mounting tabs off the original forks and weld them to the "new" triple tree so you can keep the factory look but have better functional suspension.

[@sixtyfiveford]

Good to know. I'm not too concerned with it. I may take them apart and rebuild(machine new parts myself) or just leave it.

[@RobbsHomemadeLife]

Hey Moe another great video. I always enjoy learning stuff from your videos. You always make everything look so easy. By the way, my folding bicycle has a spindle that is worn out and the other day, I used some aluminum from a beer can to fill up the wallowed space so it doesn't make a clunking noise anymore.

[@sixtyfiveford]

Awesome. As long as it works!

[@ArcticBlues1]

Colion Noir and Brandon Herrera for director's of the BATFE. Great Video! Thank You :)

[@Wil_Liam1]

Also,when oiling a chain,always oil or wax the inside of the chain as that is where the rollers make contact with the sprockets as well as centrifugal force tends to sling oil outwards so if the inside is lubed it will work its way through the entire link rather than being slung off after the first rotation..

[@sixtyfiveford]

Absolutely.

[@Wil_Liam1]

The very first thing I do whenever I get an old atc,or atv is to change their oil and filters immediately and adjust the shift change clutch to specs seeing as so many people don't know about or understand that wet clutches and friction modifiers do not work well together for very long,plus most people don't know that there is an adjustment,nor how to properly adjust that slotted screw inside that nut...

[@sixtyfiveford]

Great point. I generally don't change oil on small engines(mowers, tillers, snowblowers etc) unless it's filthy. It generally isn't needed and just wastes money(aka profit). But, putting non JASO MA/MA2 oil in a wet clutch can do damage and be a big headache.

[@mr.yamaha2855]

The sprockets are always shot on those things as well as the chain, and FYI the airbox was water tight when it was new. I have had many of these 3 wheelers. 200x , big red ,250R and 350X, 250SX

[@f.k.burnham8491]

Thanks for this video. I have one of those with electric start, and need to get it going after I find a new fuel tank and a tire. This will really help me a lot!

[@sixtyfiveford]

Good luck!

[@bctruck]

I got one cheap several years ago. Did some minor rebuilding, cleaned up the plastic and sold it for a nice piece of change.

[@sixtyfiveford]

Had a few years and years ago that were dirt cheap (smaller versions). I was just looking at them last night and saw one that sold for over $10,000 because it was original and really good condition. Crazy world we live in now

[@89G]

Great work, and another sweet video! I'm trying to place where you're camping. It looks so familiar.

[@sixtyfiveford]

Good ol desert.

[@eamonnmckeown6770]

I gave up on YUASA a while ago. Weize on Amz works fine for a delivery scooter. I need to change out the left side of the crankshaft on the Buddy 125. The outside front variator disk wallered out and smooshed the splines on the shaft. A used replacement only fit with some filing of the spline ends. It'll last for now. lol.

[@sixtyfiveford]

I've had good luck with Weize and other random SLA batteries. Generally I buy them via Amazon at 1/4 the price of local(Walmart/autoparts stores)

[@TravisInCanada1]

I had that Trike back in the day Honda 200 Big Red. Also I can confirm with the stock tires it floats pretty good.

[@tricycleguy2657]

1983 was last year of chain drive big red..the tank decals are correct 83. Yes reverse and shaft drive was 84, also if the brake assemblies weren't destroyed there is a little pointer on the brake lever shaft and either a raised dot or arrow on the backing plate if the pointer travels to the dot or arrow then the cam actuating the brake shoes has traveled its limit i.e. brake lining is used up and gone.. 11:19 thats why i said if its not destroyed

[@carloskawasaki656]

Thank you for sharing, i learn a lot, i have a big red 250 1985, i learn a lot for fixing the brake and everythink 👍👍👍👍

[@andrewwadas2180]

Great video. Excellent diagnostic and repair. Love ur vids.

[@sixtyfiveford]

Thanks 👍

[@andrewinsinga2993]

I owned a 1982 200e big red basically the same as yours, it ran great but the ride was like concrete without rear suspension

[@sixtyfiveford]

Yeah, don't want to clip along at 40 and hit a bump. I have owned 70's American ATVs all my life without any suspension. The key is super low(looks flat) tire pressure. I think Honda calls for a max of 2.2psi on this. It kills performance but will save your butt if you hit a washout in the trail. When I got this it had at least 5-7psi in the tires which is asking for pain.

[@williamroberts4758]

Put some 4 snow tires on it and they rock in the ice races.

[@skater4life31683]

Sweet machine! I have a humble request! I also have a three wheeler and it is super hard to remove the tires from the wheels because the beads are so big by design because the tires run 3-5 psi. Can you come up with a video showing some ideas how to get the tires off the wheels?! Thanks!!!

[@sixtyfiveford]

I actually have a video on making a tool: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eWLRZnuciq-tZ7M You can buy them as well(links in the video) Then I use it on ATV tires here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/kIbLeYBpgZx8qMU

[@tricycleguy2657]

Bead buster works...be careful you'll broach a square notch in your wheels if it's drawn in too close

[@steves7896]

Ginger just cracked me up, "Cmon dad! I wanna GO damnit!"

[@sixtyfiveford]

She never gets tired of rides.

[@bruceaskin9645]

Those wheel splines are available new, as is the axle.

[@sixtyfiveford]

Good to know. I figured they might be.

[@mr1pearl]

Nothing to serious to get it up and running 👍 50 more years roadworthy fun they don't build them like that anymore !

[@sixtyfiveford]

It was way more fun than I thought it would be.

[@beanolatte2682]

I have a 1985 Big Red 250 w/reverse. My Dad bought it brand new.

[@sixtyfiveford]

Awesome. Tons of fun.

[@finbah5706]

wifey may not approve, but Gingerrrrrrrrrrrrrr does!

[@sixtyfiveford]

It's hard to keep both happy..... Ginger usually wins.

[@DougAskin]

I couldn't find my chainlube so I used bar oil on my Suzuki instead, seems ok. That's a cool fix for the spline

[@sixtyfiveford]

I'm sure there's better but it always works for me on this slow speed(compared to street bike) equipment.

[@JackdeDuCoeur]

Nice work. Ginger rulz!

[@walterrobbins4470]

Did they use any correct parts when they were “fixing” it?

[@strongandco]

Heh, what a fun little project. Great informative video 👍

[@sixtyfiveford]

Thanks! 👍

[@fraydnot]

Where do you find most of your deals? Ginger be like "you ride in the back!". Thanks for the upload, appreciate you taking the time.

[@sixtyfiveford]

This one found me. I just had a 4 wheeler listed for sale with possible trades of unique engine powered toys. Other than that I find most of my stuff on local classifieds (craigslist, facebook marketplace, etc).

[@Popeyes66]

Ginger Best dog on the Internet

[@sixtyfiveford]

If I can only get her to ride on the back....

[@redneckbryon]

Honda definitely stayed consistent since they used splined axles with castle nuts on their tractors as well. 3:21, was that a twist tie through the castle nut?? 18:00, Ginger definitely knows where she wants to ride.

[@sixtyfiveford]

Yes, just a chunk of thin wire for a cotter pin. I think I prefer a nail over wire.

[@Rhosk44]

Those shims probably won't hold up on the rear axle hubs, I've seen it tried many times on 4-wheelers, anyway. Somebody once told me that they had success using Gorilla glue because it expands when it cures, but I haven't tried it myself. They said that it works but you have to heat the hubs with a torch to remove them. Those hubs have a light interference fit on the axle splines when they are new, so really the best way to fix it would be new hubs, if the axle splines aren't already damaged too much already. If that's the case, it might be worth trying the Gorilla glue to keep from buying a new axle and two new hubs. ADDED: Also, that bottom brake shoe looked like it was wore quite a bit. Those brakes don't normally work too good when they start getting worn over half way. Make sure you have the little dot on the end of the brake actuator shaft aligned with the mark on the brake lever and put those new shoes on and you should be able to adjust to a full pedal. Another thing, always pull the brake actuator shaft out and re-grease it whether it feels like it's easy to actuate or not. If you don't do this, a lot of times the brakes will drag on you. That's why you see a lot of people add an external spring to the brake lever. If you re-grease the brake actuator shaft, there will be no need for an external spring. These Honda rear drum brakes will only work properly if everything is set up just right and that shaft freshly greased. Sometimes that brake lever will move so freely that you would swear that there's no need to remove, clean and re-grease it, but trust me, you need to do this to make the brakes work properly and not drag.

[@sixtyfiveford]

The shims will get mangled but will prevent further damage. It's never going to be ridden like it was when new and will have a pretty tame second life.

[@traewatkins931]

I miss three wheelers. If I lived when I could use one Id have to find one

[@sixtyfiveford]

It was way more fun that I thought it would be. It's been so many years of 4 wheelers, there is little excitement left there.

[@notgivennotgiven7776]

The only complaint I have about this video is I kept getting distracted by that awsome looking driveway. Yeah. Peace

[@sixtyfiveford]

LOL... So true.

[@realpieceofwork]

I’ve always thought Lucas stabilizer was similar to chainsaw bar and chain oil. It’d be great if someone could show if it’s literally the same thing or not.

[@09FLTRMM77]

MM77 Approved 👍🏼👍🏼…………………………………………………………Brings back memories! Like most people, the first time I rode one, I almost killed my self. I learned REAL QUICK you steer, you can’t LEAN in a curve! LOL

[@sixtyfiveford]

If it doesn't kill you... You learn from it.

[@wyattoneable]

How fun is that?

[@mc2whls]

Ginger steals the video. Talking while riding down the street with you.

[@Geonious]

Yeah, I would trade 4 for 3 any day of the week! 🤘

[@sixtyfiveford]

Had the four-wheeler up for sale and people kept offering me total garbage. That guy offered me the three-wheeler and I jumped at it. I did also get a little cash on the top for mine.

[@jameskim62]

YOU HAVE THE EXACT SAME FLOOR JACK/WILMAR, AS I DO/NEW. WHERE CAN YOU GET THE PRESSURE RELIVE VALVE SCREW ?????? I HAVE TRIED EVERY OTHER FLOOR JACK SCEWS AND IT DOESN'T WORK...

[@sixtyfiveford]

Message me on Facebook and I can send you photos of mine. It's actually a two-piece screw/ rod but should be pretty easy to make up something.

[@jameskim62]

@@sixtyfiveford Sure look forward to meeting you. Hope you can use this FREE drive.google.com/file/d/1i6xa2_V5l24h3nxLVzZPC6AMZeumBmdQ/view?usp=sharing

[@DAS-Videos]

Nice machine. I think it will last another 40 years.

[@sixtyfiveford]

It's surprising how fun it is, but I guess all new toys are.

[@Pete.Ty1]

👍👍👍

[@mikespain8655]

The Honda was the only thing running in the end out camping. Hard to kill a Honda.

[@sixtyfiveford]

So true. The only thing that can kill a Honda is a flat tire.

[@randymacsgarage]

why cant I put my foot down when I go to stop I'm a big time Harley rider lol says me in 1984 on my first ride , never put my foot down again after that first wow up!🤣

[@sixtyfiveford]

I may or may not have ran over my leg an hour into riding this...

[@randymacsgarage]

🤣🤣🤣@@sixtyfiveford

[@rockstarfan886]

Memories for me of breaking my damn leg after it flipped

[@SteveStoltz]

I survived those years lol

[@sixtyfiveford]

There's always time to try to survive them again....

[@anthonynicholich9654]

Is that a ford escort sitting on the driveway?

[@Guillotines_For_Globalists]

I assume that the "Roll O Cotter Pins" is an April Fools Joke?

[@sixtyfiveford]

Yeah, just having a laugh.

[@Guillotines_For_Globalists]

@@sixtyfiveford I went searching to find no good results.

[@henrysmifth536]

Bro always wanted one these but mom said it was to dangerous so I ended up with a Honda spree 😢😢😢

[@69uremum]

Real chain lube is way better than than bar oil.

[@sixtyfiveford]

Yes and no. Bar oil is designed for the exact same purpose; keep a chain oiled at high speed without too much being thrown off. . The only advantage of one over the other would be a dry lube.

[@69uremum]

I sand by my original comment, bar oil for chainsaws is dosed by a pump and is continuously applied to the bar because it is much thinner and is just a oil, real chain lube is not as viscous as bar oil it is much much thicker And has a waxy/greasy feel. It is very tacky and doesn’t emulsify when washed with water and soap. I wouldn’t call chain lube oil at all.

[@zjedinite]

MacGyver IMHO 4 wheels are better than 3 and 2 are better than 4 Enjoy it and don’t flip on it 😂

[@ronniesand3594]

All fun and games till it’s on I Un level ground

[@collingrawien6621]

Oof dang ole metric being the weak link again..

[@dudehere340]

200E not too common. Nice find

[@sixtyfiveford]

I didn't expect this to be so much fun to ride around.

[@Flowing23]

👍👍