S4 E37. It works!... We finish and road test the gasoline / electric golf cart hybrid

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Robot Cantina

Robot Cantina

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@KingJellyfishII
@KingJellyfishII 2 ай бұрын
Definitely continue, I am fascinated by how the field windings of the alternator are being used to control the power output. a very simple and clever design.
@sumduma55
@sumduma55 2 ай бұрын
I second this. Continue. I'm also interested in how much the lower voltages will increase heat issues on both the alternator and the motor and how the horsepower translates from the gasoline engine to usable torque through the electric motor - whether it is a direct 1-1 or a lower/higher ratio.
@francistheodorecatte
@francistheodorecatte 2 ай бұрын
that's exactly how DC diesel-electric locomotives work lol
@kob8634
@kob8634 2 ай бұрын
I want to see what part is the first to release the magic smoke EEVBlog is always talking about.
@maxhammick948
@maxhammick948 2 ай бұрын
It's kinda similar to a metadyne (i.e. small control current in one part of a brushed motor controlling a bigger current in the other part)
@cpm1003
@cpm1003 2 ай бұрын
It's fascinating how such a small amount of power in the rotor windings can control much higher power at the output. Kind of an electro-mechanical amplifier. I agree, continue with this project!
@RPS2443
@RPS2443 2 ай бұрын
Your 30 second explanation of how the alternator regulator works made it more clear than anything else I've heard in 50-odd years.
@robotcantina8957
@robotcantina8957 2 ай бұрын
Thanks, I'm glad that helped you.
@christopherlenahan3906
@christopherlenahan3906 2 ай бұрын
@@robotcantina8957 He's totally right, most tuners in both engine and the car-audio sector just use off the shelf 1 wire units, they make no efforts to make an alternator do what they want. So I've never looked at anything on how to screw with the rotor winding voltage and thus never knew much on it. This was a way outside normal use case for an alt, but I'm surprised I've never seen it.
@chris5024
@chris5024 Ай бұрын
Ehe
@johanslabbert2869
@johanslabbert2869 2 ай бұрын
3 wheels? Hand-made wood and metal sandwich-construction? Air cooled motor? I believe you sir have built a Morgan! 😌
@robotcantina8957
@robotcantina8957 2 ай бұрын
Hmmm, I believe you are right.
@davelowe1977
@davelowe1977 2 ай бұрын
If that's the case, he's driving it in reverse!
@TotesCray
@TotesCray 2 ай бұрын
Almost as fast too!😂
@hardergamer
@hardergamer 2 ай бұрын
@@davelowe1977 You beat me too it!
@alexwoods2836
@alexwoods2836 2 ай бұрын
This is not a sandwich panel - it is already a composite space material. 😀
@kristinmedley2573
@kristinmedley2573 2 ай бұрын
Please continue. I had the same 36 volt cart for years and was tired of spending the money on new batteries. They were only supposed to go about 12 mph and you passed it up by 3 mph. This content will save a lot of vintage carts!!!
@toddmarshall7573
@toddmarshall7573 Ай бұрын
What made you decide not to just replace the lead acid batteries with LFP batteries?
@Country_Bubba
@Country_Bubba 2 ай бұрын
Please continue as this will fulfill the two main criteria that keeps me coming back and looking forward to your videos every weekend. The two criteria you ask, well first is entertainment based on the way you present your information, and the second is education. I always learn new ways to do old things in an easy efficient manner. EG in this one of using a PWM controller instead of a potentiometer! Genius.
@robotcantina8957
@robotcantina8957 2 ай бұрын
More to come!
@mceajc
@mceajc 2 ай бұрын
The technical ability, the time and effort to video and edit this, the humour - all of these, while great, pale into insignificance behind the genius that is "let's try it and find out!". I appreciate you so much, Jimbo, for what we in teh UK call "Boffinry". I salute you.
@robotcantina8957
@robotcantina8957 2 ай бұрын
Thank you! We are just having some fun.
@rippatoe50
@rippatoe50 2 ай бұрын
Well Jimbo I know you put a lot of effort into making these videos and I hope you are rewarded well because I enjoy watching them very much. Well done.
@robotcantina8957
@robotcantina8957 2 ай бұрын
Glad you like them! I make enough to keep the lights on, but that's about it. This channel doesn't generate much revenue because I don't do sponsored videos.
@davidosburn4042
@davidosburn4042 2 ай бұрын
​@robotcantina8957 we do love you for that but I'm sure most of us would stay aboard if you decided to take economic advantage of your skills.
@th3R0b0t
@th3R0b0t 2 ай бұрын
@@robotcantina8957 I agree with David here, if you have an occasional bag you can grab, you should do so. If anything, as some capital storage for keeping the fun projects going when KZbin fails to send you a check ;)
@robotcantina8957
@robotcantina8957 2 ай бұрын
@@davidosburn4042 I will take the right sponsor that has a product that is something I would actually use. I cant bring myself to shill for something I don't use myself. I do get plenty of offers.
@BeardedFrog
@BeardedFrog 2 ай бұрын
​​@@robotcantina8957Honestly, as long as the product/service isn't a scam or sketchy, I don't think it really matters. I use sponsorblock or skip over them myself, but I think most people don't really read that much into it anyway. It's just accepted that it's a necessary thing to do for a channel to get funding. I don't think anyone is like "Oh wow Jimbo likes Spishak products!? I'm gonna go buy one myself now!"
@josephcizek7030
@josephcizek7030 2 ай бұрын
I very much like what you have done so far. I watched this with two of my grandsons, and from what you have done in their minds, have done something that they want to try and build. My neighbor was cleaning out his old warehouse that he used for storage in his lawn care/excavator/landscape business and has gifted me several golf carts, engines, mowers to play with, so we have a lot of good stuff to play with. So Thank You Robert!
@robotcantina8957
@robotcantina8957 2 ай бұрын
Glad you found the video helpful. Best of luck with your projects.
@jlucasound
@jlucasound Ай бұрын
OooH! You lucky Boys! I guess Christmas came a little early! May you and your Grandsons have a lot of fun building your project(s)! 😃👍
@sp90009
@sp90009 2 ай бұрын
"I am more of a full throttle kind of person" - indeed Sir!
@ptonpc
@ptonpc 2 ай бұрын
"WITNESS ME!!!!"
@dannystephenson4855
@dannystephenson4855 2 ай бұрын
@@sp90009 I was thinkin most of us are lol
@WornOutWelder
@WornOutWelder Ай бұрын
If in dought, floor it!
@JetSettingBotanist
@JetSettingBotanist 2 ай бұрын
Keep this series coming, I love unconventional approaches to things. This scratches an itch I never knew I had
@yadabub
@yadabub 2 ай бұрын
That alternator mounting is a thing of beauty.
@davekauffman8727
@davekauffman8727 Ай бұрын
I would incorporate springs to tension the belt, but the turnbuckle works well!
@mohamadasriabdulazid4784
@mohamadasriabdulazid4784 Ай бұрын
Enjoy forever.
@pauls5745
@pauls5745 Ай бұрын
It's laughable though the alternator costs more than the 212.
@AngryManSki
@AngryManSki Ай бұрын
I saw two of the most dangerous cars parked on your property, a Nissan Altima and a Renault. You live on the edge my friend. A true rebel 👍🏾
@joshuagibson2520
@joshuagibson2520 2 ай бұрын
Im not under a 24hr ban this week and so I can express my gratitude for the channel. Thanks RC!
@robotcantina8957
@robotcantina8957 2 ай бұрын
Very welcome
@jamest.5001
@jamest.5001 2 ай бұрын
24hr ban, I know how that is! ✌️
@inspectorraycharles
@inspectorraycharles 2 ай бұрын
I'm usually cage free on weekends thanks to my wife. Carry on
@awgmax
@awgmax 2 ай бұрын
@@inspectorraycharles jesus
@steffybael1245
@steffybael1245 Ай бұрын
I GET THOSE EVERY WEEK! IN FACT THIS IS MY 4TH ACCOUNT, SINCE GOOGLE PREFERS TO BAN ME FROM ALL ITS PLATFORMS FOR LIFE!! FAAAAAQ GOOGLE!
@PatrickBogan-j5g
@PatrickBogan-j5g 8 күн бұрын
Your building a world class golf cart...At a time when everything is going to alternative fuels, it won't be long ( for some it's already here ) that your concept, while practical and well thought out, would be an excellent example of retaining the nostalgic and historic internal combustion engine for future generations to enjoy. Our grand and great grandkids will be able to experience their own chitty chitty bang bang and proudly exclaim...my grandpa built this thing...! It'll be one of those things that no one really intended for it to be nostalgic, it just kinda worked that way..! Great work guys ..! Pat Bogan III
@Dodgeram1500hd
@Dodgeram1500hd 2 ай бұрын
Imagine if we had teachers like this in modern day education systems
@robotcantina8957
@robotcantina8957 2 ай бұрын
thanks!
@davewilson4957
@davewilson4957 2 ай бұрын
@@Dodgeram1500hd I have to believe this nation would be better off
@larryhimes6224
@larryhimes6224 2 ай бұрын
Really cool that this essentially replicated the paradigm of an "electric" "Diesel" locomotive! I've thought about using a small generator on a bike trailer to recharge an electric touring bike - sort of a hybrid (since there would still be a battery involved.) However, eliminating an expensive & complicated Rolloff shift hub or a Mid-Frame bike gear box w/a controlled motor would be more(?) affordable & sort of rad. . . Thanks for all you do. Sort of "scratches my itch" concerning CVTs, low tech, diesel in cars, etc., etc.! :)
@mastercricket7626
@mastercricket7626 2 ай бұрын
I would have stayed in school 😅
@Hosstache
@Hosstache 2 ай бұрын
Wow and no koolaid hair too!!!! What would that be like!!!!
@mdsuave13
@mdsuave13 2 ай бұрын
This is awesome repurpose of an old battery golf cart. These things are all around and just sitting rotting away in government facilities and garages of factories... This makes them actually useful. I hope you offer instructions for people to build these one day. VERY COOL.
@goosenotmaverick1156
@goosenotmaverick1156 2 ай бұрын
I was given a similarly conditioned "hoopty golf cart" when i was about 12, by my neighbors. We put together enoigh batteries to fly around the proprrty at 48v instead of 36 like it was originally. (The battery trays were so rusted we could only get 4 12v in it instead of 6x6v anyway. It was rusty and bent up, but we rode that thing all over the property for a good couple years. Mom even used it to haul garden tools and such across the 4 acres we had, instead of using our ATV. This project brings back such nostalgia and fond memories for the dreams I had for mine. Im still not sure where it ended up. Similar to a lot of the toys I had good memories with, they would occasionally just disappear... lol So in other words, keep going Jimbo, if you want to, I'll be watching. I know a lot of us will. This is a welcome shift from normal content you've been doing. Not that it's not interesting, but different is cool too! Give you a break from working on the same thing week after week, as well. Im sure even the most fun projects can become tedious when forced to work on them in a continuous manner
@sreekumarUSA
@sreekumarUSA Ай бұрын
Sir, thank you, for your thought. Those were the days my friend ( courtesy Boris Fomin (Russian 1900~1948) romantic song. Those days, now we can only reminisce…. Ahhhh “those were the days my friend” courtesy Madam Mary Hopkins…cheers..
@jlucasound
@jlucasound Ай бұрын
@@sreekumarUSA "We Thought they'd Never End..."
@jlucasound
@jlucasound Ай бұрын
Thanks Goose! I Echo your Words. 😄🙂
@shanedavis4068
@shanedavis4068 28 күн бұрын
I freaking love all the terminology you've used for the petroleum battery!! One of my favorite channels.
@Fra-gee-lay
@Fra-gee-lay 2 ай бұрын
Ive been wanting to do a small scale version of this concept since i was in middle school. Im glad someone is out here doing all the stuff i cant affprs to do.
@nuttyDesignAndFab
@nuttyDesignAndFab 2 ай бұрын
go to the local pick and pull lol
@Fra-gee-lay
@Fra-gee-lay 2 ай бұрын
@nuttyDesignAndFab part of that afford bit is affording the space for a project.
@jlucasound
@jlucasound Ай бұрын
@@Fra-gee-lay Very Good Point. 👍
@PsRohrbaugh
@PsRohrbaugh 2 ай бұрын
I get you're going for KISS, so others can replicate this project. I think moving forward in that direction for now is good. You've made a functional vehicle for extremely low cost, and there's lots of room in that direction. But I'm thinking about that 0-60, er 0-15 performance! That startup current surge is the electric motor trying to produce gobs of torque, and torque = fun. With $100 - $200 of super capacitors, your problem would be wheelspin. Once you've finished "phase one", consider a constant-voltage DC bus in the 40-60v range with some 500 - 1000 farad supercaps in series and an automatic voltage regulator on the alternator. Then a DC motor controller. The caps I'm looking at right now are 2.7v 600F for $11, and have a peak current of 400 amps (which they can provide instantly unlike a battery), which would really let you "dump the clutch". Who knows - you might even pop a wheelie! Just my 2¢
@robotcantina8957
@robotcantina8957 2 ай бұрын
Thanks so much!. The problem with the caps is there is no where in the circuit I could put them. I would have to switch them into the circuit briefly on acceleration, but after that they would interfere with the system.
@wallyhare8616
@wallyhare8616 2 ай бұрын
My favorite time of the week. To see jumbos shenanigans. 😂
@Ocean_breezes
@Ocean_breezes Ай бұрын
What an awesome project. As a retired Test Engineer, what you have done makes me smile. Your explanation of the motor control was well done
@WilliamLaakkonen
@WilliamLaakkonen 2 ай бұрын
Awesome project - your channel reminds me so much of my childhood- at age 10 to 13 my brothers and I would sneak in to the USN junkyard and liberate various items no longer needed by Uncle Sam, bring them home, and cook up projects of my own making- some of which actually worked- like a steam powered tandem bicycle and several radio projects using parts salvaged from surplus radios, dynamos, and various junk. I am pretty sure I was the only 10 year old with an oscilloscope of his own in 1973- and the adventures continued when I discovered getting a ham radio license to legally operate those radios I was putting together. Thankfully the ham who discovered my projects saw some potential rather than an enforcement action for the FCC. Cheers and thanks for the brain food!
@richardthomas9263
@richardthomas9263 Ай бұрын
I like how you explain things simply, for us. No need to over complicate things, if they work.
@thomasbonnett2283
@thomasbonnett2283 2 ай бұрын
Great project, excited to see more. I have the same Cushman cart and refuse to buy 6 6 volt batteries. I plan on copying your build with my own twist in the future. Thanks Jimbo for your inspiration
@mmllmmll22
@mmllmmll22 2 ай бұрын
How about gettin 3 12v batteries? Are they in series? Like 36v system for motor. Then You migh be fine with 3 12v instead of 6 6v ones.
@Emenblade
@Emenblade 2 ай бұрын
I mean them 6v batteries are expensive as all heck.
@HA05GER
@HA05GER 2 ай бұрын
​@@mmllmmll22get 3 12v hell you can get a 12v lithium 100ah for $200 now. I know in UK lead acid batteries are cheap I bought a new one for my diesel car the other day it was £53 around 60 dollars.
@onegreenev
@onegreenev 2 ай бұрын
@@mmllmmll22 6v batteries are deep cycle for golf carts that will give you more mileage. Better to convert to LiFePO4 batteries. Less weight. More usable battery and long life and zero maintenance batteries. Charge the same as lead acid without any issues. Simple charge controllers and solar will do the job of keeping it charged. I’ve kept the motor but putting in a modern controller and using 48v vs 36. More juice more distance and full modern control of the motor. I like the idea presented here in this video. A good use for my little diesel engine. I have everything except the alternator and mount. I can afford those no problem.
@nickmac5953
@nickmac5953 2 ай бұрын
Definitely continue. I have an old golf cart I’m excited to mess with after watching you get started. Thanks for the great episode!
@robotcantina8957
@robotcantina8957 2 ай бұрын
Will do!
@andrewsallee6044
@andrewsallee6044 2 ай бұрын
I love this series. I am not the level of tinkerer that you are, but this is something I feel like i could tackle. I will enjoy watching every episode even if I never touch a wrench. Thanks.
@bdaman80x2
@bdaman80x2 2 ай бұрын
Yes please continue. These kinds of things are fun to watch. Giving me an idea to look for a broken down electric golf cart for the same type of project
@robotcantina8957
@robotcantina8957 2 ай бұрын
will do!
@marksutton9085
@marksutton9085 2 ай бұрын
"If we break something we will certainly know the limits of what it will take." Said the engineer/hot rodder.
@delandbrooks3291
@delandbrooks3291 2 ай бұрын
Hot Rodding, Off roading, and almost all motorsports are basically building something and then hammering on it until it tells you want the next upgrade has to be.
@patrickbodine1300
@patrickbodine1300 Ай бұрын
Elon Musk does that exact thing with his rockets etc.
@YTal5525
@YTal5525 2 ай бұрын
Excellent work! I work in the OEM power supply industry, and I'm also a big gearhead. I really love the project you're working on, and I'd even be willing to donate power supplies to support your cause. Electric vehicles certainly have their place, but I've often pointed out that the large GE train engines provide a great example of how a similar system could work for cars and trucks. My idea is simple: use a "petroleum battery" with enough energy to power the vehicle at highway speeds and run the air conditioning and accessories. A smaller battery could be used to help get the vehicle up to speed and recover braking energy-essentially, what a hybrid does. I believe using a polyphase AC motor and controller would improve efficiency and enable effective braking energy recovery. People overly zealous for the concept of electric cars/trucks have approached for year and I tell them to do the math. Diesel fuel provides 37 kWh per gallon, and gasoline is around 35 kWh per gallon, with both weighing about 7 pounds per gallon. In comparison, you'd need 1,800 pounds of lead-acid batteries or 407.5 pounds of lithium-ion batteries to store the same amount of energy. Were if not for Lithium Electric cars would not make sense, then density is finally getting up to a usable range. Keep up the good work, let me know if a DC/DC converter or an Inverter would help your cause. But whatever you do keep having fun. :)
@robotcantina8957
@robotcantina8957 2 ай бұрын
Wow, I appreciate the offer! At this point in the project, I think I'm set. and I need to focus on the controls.
@vladimirbondaletov2767
@vladimirbondaletov2767 Ай бұрын
Я установил на чешский трактор электро мотор BLDS 5 киловатт и батарею 48 вольт 100ач.Сейчас думаю, как поставить небольшой генератор для подзарядки батареи. Автор ролика зря отказался от использования аккумуляторов. Гибрид имеет ряд преимуществ.
@thomasexeter97
@thomasexeter97 2 ай бұрын
You should add a wood gas generator and have a sawdust powered golfcart
@BigBeavrSlayer
@BigBeavrSlayer 2 ай бұрын
Oof, sawdust is such a pain to use. Charcoal would be the ideal fuel source for that small of a system
@JohnChrysostom101
@JohnChrysostom101 2 ай бұрын
Make saw dust bricks
@BigBeavrSlayer
@BigBeavrSlayer 2 ай бұрын
@ still to difficult for daily driver needs, you really need a healthy charcoal bed to crack tars and sawdust just doesn’t get there
@Jase0001
@Jase0001 2 ай бұрын
Using a gasifier would be awesome. I thought about using a gasifier on mini bike motor or some sort of engine!
@phoschnizzle826
@phoschnizzle826 2 ай бұрын
"French cars make great anchors!" 🤣 Truer words were never spoken. Love the concept and the straight-forward explanation of the process.
@bobirving6052
@bobirving6052 2 ай бұрын
I like it! This project has already given me an idea how to fix a vehicle that keeps killing alternators when it charges over 15 volts. Also, it’s great to have a golf cart for trips in town!
@JamesDElliott
@JamesDElliott Ай бұрын
Please continue! I've thought about this for years. Love that I can do it vicariously through you. Exellent work!
@thomasknobbe4472
@thomasknobbe4472 2 ай бұрын
Definitely keep going, Reddy Kilowatt would certainly approve. You are bringing electric propulsion to rural America, after all. I love the way the entire neighborhood runs into their houses and watches in terror from behind their curtains when they hear you coming by.
@robotcantina8957
@robotcantina8957 2 ай бұрын
LOL, The neighbors have gotten used to hearing some sort of lawnmower engine struggling as it goes down the road.
@jafquist27
@jafquist27 2 ай бұрын
Reddy Kilowatt! I was wondering if anyone else knew who that was on the sticker.
@ctlucy4me
@ctlucy4me Ай бұрын
Reddy Kilowatt with a switch blade, a real killer! Lol
@PixelProProductions1
@PixelProProductions1 2 ай бұрын
Please continue. KZbin needs more content like this. Also, I have been watching yours since day one and I am most intrigued by this project.
@robotcantina8957
@robotcantina8957 2 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@Samsquanch6969
@Samsquanch6969 2 ай бұрын
7:58 "let's make it happen. So right away we have a problem"😂
@nd4spd81
@nd4spd81 Ай бұрын
I think you should continue mainly because you have the best junk pile ever. If you continue this project, it will make it more fair for the rest of us. Keep up the awesome content.
@PetesCreativeRecycling
@PetesCreativeRecycling 2 ай бұрын
I was totally going to panic until you said not to panic. Whew! Thanks for that! Now I can get back to my bowl of Cap'n Crunch.
@robotcantina8957
@robotcantina8957 2 ай бұрын
No need to panic.... until you run out of Captain Crunch.
@ezekielfranklin7799
@ezekielfranklin7799 Ай бұрын
Dude, I love you! You know very well how to do what you do! Your mixture of humor and fact exemplifies the best of entertainment and education lol.
@tracymalwitz4351
@tracymalwitz4351 2 ай бұрын
This is awesome. I have an old electric golf cart I may try this. Thank you!
@StevenIngram
@StevenIngram 2 ай бұрын
Another neat little project. And I'm kind of surprised after the reference to it being like an diesel locomotive that you didn't opt for your little diesel engine.
@tl1024
@tl1024 2 ай бұрын
Love the project, definitely continue. As a 17 year golf cart mechanic, i can say that cart was a "hooptie" 20 years ago. Also, spinning that 36v motor at 36v with no load is definitely risking overspeeding the motor, i usually use a 12v car jumpstarter to test motors with no load. And that motor will live happily on 48v (maybe more) if you decide to push it that far, just dont do it with the wheels off the ground.
@LG-fb9yt
@LG-fb9yt Ай бұрын
I wish I knew electricity more than I do cause the stuff I want to know makes my head swim (or maybe that's because I been shocked so many times or how significantly some times.. true story lol) Can you explain why not test it with wheels in the air? Rpms shouldnt hurt the electric motor with no load neither under or over volted I would think.. maybe the differential might not be happy going too fast since it's not high speed rear-end etc.. just my thinkin..
@53Ericd
@53Ericd Ай бұрын
Yes, please show more on this project. My Brother-in-law has a nice golf cart that the batteries have gone bad. This would be an excellent upgrade for his. Thanks for posting your results.
@silverfin198
@silverfin198 2 ай бұрын
"if we break something, we'll certainly know the limits of what this thing can take." -Robot Cantina
@BeardedFrog
@BeardedFrog 2 ай бұрын
I've been subbed since the first street legal go car-t days. I find all your weird, silly projects, and your approach to them to always be entertaining. I would REALLY like to see you do a twin charge setup on one of your "cars" someday though. Or perhaps a hybrid system (that adds power from both).
@jeremypilot1015
@jeremypilot1015 2 ай бұрын
Definitely need to continue that's a fun project. new wheels and tires, floor plate out of shinny diamond plate, big washing machine motor, yeah this thing could be lots of fun, see if you can hit +45MPH
@dragonhealer7588
@dragonhealer7588 2 ай бұрын
@@jeremypilot1015 Absolutely! But after moving it to a 4 wheel cart. Can't risk losing our favorite content creator!
@noyopacific
@noyopacific 2 ай бұрын
I'd encourage you to keep fooling around with the golf cart to see what you can do with it, because it's entertaining. Thanks for the video Jimbo !!!
@Dirty_Bits
@Dirty_Bits 2 ай бұрын
This is the kind of content I expect to see on KZbin! I'm looking forward to seeing the alternator melt on the acceleration test! 😂
@robotcantina8957
@robotcantina8957 2 ай бұрын
You and me both!
@wdixon27
@wdixon27 Ай бұрын
@@robotcantina8957 maybe enhance the cooling of said motor controller, a fan on the pulley and maybe a 3d printed cowl couldn't hurt
@mike_oe
@mike_oe 2 ай бұрын
I had a ball watching this episode. The potential of this setup is wild. Imagine a small hydrofoil boat with a submerged motor/prop drive. Sweet!
@mfbfreak
@mfbfreak 2 ай бұрын
Edison Motors getting into the golf cart business?
@MisfitzMotorsportsLLC
@MisfitzMotorsportsLLC 2 ай бұрын
hahah
@tomp538
@tomp538 Ай бұрын
entertaining and educational. the basic concept and descriptions of "how things work" takes me back to shop classes in the 60s. hopefully this will inspire a young viewer to pursue a trade.
@twocvbloke
@twocvbloke 2 ай бұрын
Ain't going to lie, I was kind of expecting the magic smoke to escape on the first test on the road, and I'm pretty impressed that it was doing so well and not straining to do its' thing, nice work, and definitely keep this build going, it'll be fun seeing how much more you can get out of it... :D
@MisfitzMotorsportsLLC
@MisfitzMotorsportsLLC 2 ай бұрын
same here!
@dans_Learning_Curve
@dans_Learning_Curve Ай бұрын
I'm fairly new to your channel. This is the kind of content I'm looking for! Thank you for your efforts! Back in 1974, when I was in 5th grade, probably 10 years old, I wanted to design a remote car starter! I told my class mates about it. I thought they were ignoring me! A few months ago, I figured out I that I was completely over their heads!
@TSRGarage
@TSRGarage 2 ай бұрын
Posted 5 minutes ago, I'm late refill coffee ☕️... press play - like👍 and comment. My day is complete 😂. Edit: "Ya know French cars make great ⚓️ anchors" 🤣🤣🤣🤣 the best jokes a true facts.
@robotcantina8957
@robotcantina8957 2 ай бұрын
LOL, so true.
@grahammonk8013
@grahammonk8013 2 ай бұрын
@@robotcantina8957 Hold on there Sparky! I was the proud owner of a Citroen Visa way back when. Think of it as a 2CV with a 5 door body. A great example of doing a lot with not much. In the future I would like buy and import a "new" 2CV, which you can still get from various purveyors of 2CV parts. Better than the original.
@johncrawford6571
@johncrawford6571 2 ай бұрын
Ha, ha! Remember the soap box derby cars? This reminds me of putting a mini bike engine in one of those! They went uphill just as fast as downhill! Also, it is not too stable with no suspension. The cause of a few incidents of road rash! Carry on, buddy! Uhmm . . Minus the road rash if you can help it! If not, welcome to the club! Lolololol! Looking forward to the next episode in this chapter!
@thomasexeter97
@thomasexeter97 2 ай бұрын
1990s Chrysler alternators are externally regulated, that might make them easier to tinker with
@omegarugal9283
@omegarugal9283 2 ай бұрын
that one is, it always get full voltage, the ecu grounds the rotor winding to drive the voltage down
@KR-hg8be
@KR-hg8be 2 ай бұрын
You have solved my own sketchy old golf cart power problem!
@Adam-nv9zo
@Adam-nv9zo 2 ай бұрын
This is really interesting. Definitely continue. Great video, as always, Jimbo.
@chadsmith1092
@chadsmith1092 Ай бұрын
As my browser is filled with race cars, crazy horsepower engines, and engineering marvels. This tasty little treat popped into my feed. And I must say this is one of the coolest projects I've seen in a long time. Super cool video, and thank you for sharing. Looking forward to it's further development 👍😎
@SidneyCritic
@SidneyCritic 2 ай бұрын
I would get bucket seats, ie, sliding off a flat seat in a corner is how I broke my collar bone - lol -.
@trekkie1701e
@trekkie1701e 2 ай бұрын
It would tip over before you pulled enought lateral gs to slide out.
@gavster89
@gavster89 2 ай бұрын
Nicely done Jimbo, the simplicity of the system is its elegance 😊
@tahustvedt
@tahustvedt 2 ай бұрын
The more death trap a car is, the more fun it is to drive. That's why I'm trying to find a Lotus Europa.
@mbox314
@mbox314 2 ай бұрын
This is definitely one of the most intresting projects I have seen on the tube. You managed to create the second simplest motor driver I could imagine and I see alot of potental in this idea.
@trevortrevortsr2
@trevortrevortsr2 2 ай бұрын
I'm very impressed - I thought about this to make my stationary engine move a canal boat with a trolling motor
@bugie7872
@bugie7872 2 ай бұрын
Please keep going with the project. For longer I've been thinking of a hybrid go kart and all this information is excellent
@lynnlandin7561
@lynnlandin7561 2 ай бұрын
Your setup is definitely more efficient than the 1960's era two wheeled electric go cart from Popular Mechanics which used a homemade variable series resistor for speed control. The resistor was made from a block of carbon and a sliding copper bar. It used a single battery and an automotive starter motor. Range was measured in blocks not miles.
@AddictedtoProjects
@AddictedtoProjects 2 ай бұрын
You have a knack for presenting something quite complex in a very simple and easily digestable manner. That takes true skill and intelligence!
@hotrodlincolnx
@hotrodlincolnx 2 ай бұрын
Its time for my favorite Sunday morning show!
@tx5brent
@tx5brent 2 ай бұрын
This is brilliant. What a simple, elegant and innovative solution, I love it.
@JerryWick
@JerryWick 2 ай бұрын
Im with you Jimbo, im a full throttle guy on these type of projects. If I was your co-pilot I probably would have ramped the voltage way up and gotten the cart to a speed where it would make both of us a little bit afraid for our lives and then backed it off lol! Looking forward to future installments!
@Destructor429
@Destructor429 Ай бұрын
Love the video and the detailed explanation. And using the field coil voltage as a speed control is a genius idea!! You just gained a subscriber.
@MisfitzMotorsportsLLC
@MisfitzMotorsportsLLC 2 ай бұрын
Good morning, Jimbo! and Happy Sunday from all of us at Misfitz Motorsports and Performance (MMP)! Our coffee cups are charged up, and ready to see this petroleum battery come to life! Have you considered using a buck converter to make the DC driver motor think it’s receiving a different voltage, in addition to the PWM you’re using? That could open up some exciting possibilities! we would be happy to send you one if you would like.
@robotcantina8957
@robotcantina8957 2 ай бұрын
Good morning! the project s still evolving, the PWM controller I'm using may actually be more than enough voltage and current. The sluggish throttle response is due to the throttle knob being awkward to turn fast enough. We will be working on that this week.
@MisfitzMotorsportsLLC
@MisfitzMotorsportsLLC 2 ай бұрын
Oh, I understand completely, especially after watching your detailed breakdown! That makes total sense. I was thinking, though-if you were to use a buck converter inline between the battery and the PWM, it could 'trick' the PWM into always thinking it's receiving the proper voltage, regardless of the actual battery state. This way, you’d have direct and consistent control over speed through the PWM/throttle design. I’ve tried a similar setup with a long-range drone that had no mid-flight recharge capabilities. Same drone, same battery-without the buck converter, I’d get 15 minutes of flight time on a 250g 7-inch. With the buck converter? Up to 35 minutes of full GPS, video, and control until the battery was done. It made a huge difference! (Thank God for LiFe Batteries) Lead-acid batteries, while reliable, tend to experience voltage drops as they discharge, which can impact the performance of devices relying on a consistent voltage input-like your petroleum battery design. A buck converter can address this by stepping down the input voltage to a stable level that the PWM controller can consistently manage, regardless of fluctuations in the battery's output. By ensuring the PWM controller always receives an optimal voltage, the buck converter can improve the efficiency and responsiveness of the throttle design. It prevents the system from underperforming during periods of lower battery voltage while allowing the controller to operate within its ideal parameters. For a design like this, where stable and precise control is critical, a buck converter could maximize runtime and performance, much like it does in drones or other high-demand applications. This would enhance the overall user experience and system durability. feel free to shoot me an email info@misfitzmotorsportsllc.com. It would be great to speak on this further
@davidrunning457
@davidrunning457 Ай бұрын
its a concept that I've been thinking of as a battery back up for my electric motor in my boat. so regardless of my solar recharge rate I could have on demand power to continue cruising or limp back into port. Seeing you actually make it work for a similar motor set up is encouraging.
@GW2_Live
@GW2_Live 2 ай бұрын
Continue, because this is amazing, hilarious, and super fun!
@danw1955
@danw1955 2 ай бұрын
Definitely continue!😄👍👍 I'm impressed that an externally regulated car alternator generates enough voltage and amperage to effectively run a 36 vdc golf cart motor. Great concept using the field current to control the overall output. Diesel electric locomotives are a little more complex on how they deliver power. My Grandfather, who was an engineer on the Reading Lines back in the 60's and 70's, told me that they have compound wound traction motors that start off in series configuration and then switch to series/parallel, and then straight parallel for maintaining speed. How accurate that is, I don't know, but it involves a lot of relay and switch banks for control. I believe those cart motors are just straight series wound brush motors, which aren't terribly efficient, but are pretty torquey for a given input. If you retain your forward/reverse switch as an input point, you can still easily reverse polarity to make it back up as well. I think I'd invest in a junk 4 wheel cart with good suspension before you try to make it go faster though! Those 3 wheelers are about as stable as a milking stool.💀🤣
@monstercameron
@monstercameron 2 ай бұрын
Ive been waiting for you to work on a hybrid setup. would love to see this moved into a car with capacitor/battery storage as an energy cache. Would also love to see you tackle an ecvt build
@jfv65
@jfv65 2 ай бұрын
I believe you could buy such a car, it was called a bmw i3. It's basically a BEV but it has a 2cil motorbike engine (aka Range Extender aka REX) that drives an alternator to (re)charge the (buffer) battery.
@monstercameron
@monstercameron 2 ай бұрын
@ I know all the high level products and technology. I know the diff between a series and a parallel hybrid, toroidal, belt driven cvt and an ecvt. The fun in this channel is building the parts from scratch. I wanna see the design decisions and interesting ideas around this kind of project
@monstercameron
@monstercameron 2 ай бұрын
@ I can rattle of range extending hybrids off the top of my head, Nissan kicks e power(e power brand is mostly in Asia), Mazda mx30, fisker Karma, I wanna say Chevy volt but that might have a parallel mode, most of them with ecvts have a parallel mode
@jondavidmcnabb
@jondavidmcnabb 2 ай бұрын
This is by far your best project yet!!!! BRAVO
@somethingelsehere8089
@somethingelsehere8089 2 ай бұрын
AKA Series Hybrid. Enjoying the videos. Thank you.
@blendpinexus1416
@blendpinexus1416 2 ай бұрын
not quite. that requires a battery in the middle. but it is a really cool idea that imma copy myself.
@marcinbujok7388
@marcinbujok7388 2 ай бұрын
Love the petroleum battery concept! Thanks for showing how to control speed on the alternator. Awesome project!
@TotesCray
@TotesCray 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for another fun project!
@panzerwolf494
@panzerwolf494 15 күн бұрын
My old man refurbished a gas golf cart decades ago. The thing was dead silent and that really impressed me. Was a blast to drive too
@Truss776
@Truss776 2 ай бұрын
Keep going with this goofy golf cart because i like to see old junk live again
@craigseary2368
@craigseary2368 2 ай бұрын
This is why i watch the channel, its all different and fascinating, keep it up
@robotcantina8957
@robotcantina8957 2 ай бұрын
Thanks, will do!
@dadsfriendlyrobotcompany
@dadsfriendlyrobotcompany 2 ай бұрын
I love this type of hybrid electric vehicle! Next you need to use the battery to also create hydrogen through electrolysis of water to then burn it in the engine to spin the alternator to drive the motor. Now you just eliminated its emissions
@des7567
@des7567 Ай бұрын
You could run a hybrid hydrogen gas feed from a electrolyzed water tank into the cylinder that motor will run cooler, quieter and cleaner with more torque only water vapor out the exhaust, green energy close loop you can power your house with it when your not golfing. Sell the carbon credits save the planet 😂
@corasrazvan8637
@corasrazvan8637 2 ай бұрын
I think you should continue, so much valuable information. I wish they would teach this in school ! Thank you for making amazing videos !
@Orbacron
@Orbacron 2 ай бұрын
If you could make 48 volts, would be ideal. Actually if you made 60 volts it would be quite sporty for a golf cart
@GarthKlaus
@GarthKlaus 2 ай бұрын
John Deere 2500E Greens/Tmower uses a 48V alternator to spin the reels. I know that Jacobsen also makes an Electric Hybrid mower.
@zeitgeist57
@zeitgeist57 2 ай бұрын
I have an old Club Car that I was going to convert the electric powertrain to gas…but knowing the electric motor is good I’d be very interested in seeing this develop further and possibly replicate it myself.
@Terran.Marine.2
@Terran.Marine.2 2 ай бұрын
Does the exhaust pipe quiet it down noticibly?
@Spudz76
@Spudz76 2 ай бұрын
This thing runs on Watts therefore the actual volts are less relevant. It would be 36-48V on batteries because they simply can't internally handle a draw of high amps, and are chemically limited to a fixed voltage. But this alternator can do around 2000W (on the label, maybe more) which can be any ratio of volts to amps. The drive motor doesn't care although higher amps could plasmafy the brushes or foul the commutator or other interconnects I guess. But the test drive showed around 1777W (39.7V * 44.77A). Having 48V would only lower the current to 37A, big whoop. Achieved sportiness of more volts with batteries has more to do with getting more Watts without overshooting the Amps and melting them internally (or fouling the plates). All that really matters is Watts without melting something.
@Orbacron
@Orbacron 2 ай бұрын
@Spudz76 I'd like to see the torque with an ambulance or a semi truck alternator output! Version2 😃
@manytrickpony695
@manytrickpony695 2 ай бұрын
Why you should... because we are watching you have fun. And we can live vicariously through you.
@CrustyShackleford
@CrustyShackleford 2 ай бұрын
What about all the energy that is lost between the local power plant and the battery when its charging? You've cut out a few miles of wire and quite a few transformers... Your setup looks pretty efficient to me!
@bobirving6052
@bobirving6052 2 ай бұрын
How dare you suggest that electric power isn’t perfect and clean and free.
@robotcantina8957
@robotcantina8957 2 ай бұрын
Indeed, I reckon the loss percentage between the power plant and my outlet is much greater than the percentage of loss between the petroleum battery and the dc motor.
@goosenotmaverick1156
@goosenotmaverick1156 2 ай бұрын
Losses are lower at extremely high voltages they're transmitting at comparatively. It's not perfect by any means but it's not much comparatively. The efficiency isn't necessarily gained with less losses, it's about the thermal efficiency of energy production that makes the largest difference. When doing something like this, you have to consider all the associated vehicles, other fuel, etc, to refine, transport and fill up your tank with a petroleum product. None of it is perfect, and their losses are generally shown in a different area when comparing smaller generation with larger generation.
@nerd1000ify
@nerd1000ify 2 ай бұрын
Small engine efficiency is usually rather awful compared to a large thermal plant burning the same fuel. Even a lousy thermal power plant gets 30% thermal efficiency. A small engine like the predator probably manages about 15%. That's a big gap to make up. On the other hand, the charging efficiency of the reaction battery on a golf cart probably isn't all that good...
@makecoolstuff9170
@makecoolstuff9170 2 ай бұрын
I like this project. A very elegant solution for a very simple hybrid vehicle concept. Keep going!
@ProDigit80
@ProDigit80 2 ай бұрын
It would be good to have some lithium batteries to act as a buffer, so the motors can temporarily boost power beyond what the alternator can provide.
@grandyhynes1636
@grandyhynes1636 Ай бұрын
Chuckled the whole way through, thank you. Petroleum battery- beautiful phrasing 😂
@Dis-Emboweled
@Dis-Emboweled 2 ай бұрын
That's interesting that you never got past 40 amps. Seeing the cart pull the Renault at 1rpms makes sense though, but its good to see the thing working. I wonder how small a motor you could go? Could you spin the alternator fast enough with a chainsaw motor? What about the tortured diesel motor from this summer? Grear video Jimbo!
@robotcantina8957
@robotcantina8957 2 ай бұрын
I did see 90 amps briefly. Since the "accelerator" knob is awkward and slow to turn, its difficult to ramp up the power quickly.
@durrellsg
@durrellsg 2 ай бұрын
@27:10 UAPB... was not expecting that lol Makes sense why he was cautious, he got sense 😂
@rjung_ch
@rjung_ch 2 ай бұрын
We should continue, not only because it's goofy, but because I'm learning electrical things. 👍💪✌
@vwfanatic2390
@vwfanatic2390 2 ай бұрын
You’re teaching proper scientific methods, stuff they stopped teaching in schools, properly. Also educating about the principles of energy use, conversion, loss, and efficiency, or in this case trade offs resulting in some inefficiency. Please keep going!
@robotcantina8957
@robotcantina8957 2 ай бұрын
Well said
@Ultimatebubs
@Ultimatebubs 2 ай бұрын
Hmm.... seems like we're going to have a visit to the "hillbilly proving grounds" for an acceleration test soon. Maybe bring a helmet this time?
@randypomfret5281
@randypomfret5281 2 ай бұрын
It seats 2 and has a mid engine. I can't wait to see the performance of this sports car. I enjoy these cool projects - keep them coming.
@GIGABACHI
@GIGABACHI Ай бұрын
Jimbo and Co-Pilot, you're a public menace ! 😂👍 Great job, looking forward to more.
@armedinbama
@armedinbama 2 ай бұрын
Does that cart have a posi? 🤔
@robotcantina8957
@robotcantina8957 2 ай бұрын
LOL,
@Christopher-f8z
@Christopher-f8z Ай бұрын
Outstanding on concept...love your choice of words...very useful and am using this vid as counterpoint to the electric game the world is being subjected to...
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