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[@McSireson]

The fact that they actually have 3 expansions planned out is a GOOD thing. Actual (hopefully) cohesive storyline, not a word about an expansion specific system, like borrowed power or garrison type stuff that would be irrelevant come next expansion. I love classic, and am really excited about things to come in that space, but man classic fans can be insufferably petty and childish.

[@rokogrga43]

Is it really a good thing? Because the expansions will be 1-1.5 years long, we will have to buy them way more often. If they are good, that won't be a problem

[@kipz]

you know they had them planned out years in advance in previous years too right? they are just announcing it this time

[@McSireson]

@@rokogrga43 it is a good thing because of the reasons i listed. If the expansions are bad then they’re obviously bad. But knowing that they have a plan that they were upfront about is promising! Other things that sound good so far is them talking about evergreen systems and respecting players time. I think the faster turnover rate for expansions is a gamble, but one that just might work, as long as it’s more than a year.

[@user-xy7oq7oe6n]

cope harder lol, retail is terrible

[@McSireson]

@@kipz I guess, but i meant to this extent, to tell a cohesive story. Have not played it but people likened it to FFXIV and that worked great from what i’ve heard.

[@Valican11]

Chat being mad that they got 3 expansions revealed rather than Wow 2 is embarrassing.

[@aFoolsMartyr]

People are only cynical anymore, like it's just impossible to just be happy about something.

[@danny7694]

I mean to be fair how are we expected to be happy when the last 5 expansions have been absolute dog tier trash by wow's earlier standard. @@aFoolsMartyr

[@aFoolsMartyr]

@@danny7694 your opinion. Legion was lit and DF is great too.

[@FAMIB]

@@danny7694 you are stuck in your childhood and can't capture that feeling again, it will never happen. You have to move forward.

[@AspiranteADev]

Tbf we basically got confirmation that there will be another wow game after those 3 expansions. We got everything we could have wanted, yet it's funny to see people spamming "boring lol" "ZZZZZZZZzzzzzz" "they gave up wow 2 for this" "1 good expansion > 3 trash" It's like those mfs actually have never played the game in their entire life and just watched like 1 or 2 videos titled "blizzard is dead" and now they think that the game is stuck on being eternally shit and dead. Crazy stuff, Asmongold's chat in particular, some of those motherfuckers hate blizzard with a passion, it's almost like the SA, and all the other weird stuff, was done by every single employee, include the ones that are working there today.

[@vergil8833]

These 3 expansions are building up to something that could lead to a reset/WoW2, surely chat didn't actually believe they would just cut things at dragonflight then make a brand new game. That was just a meme, right? Surely chat is not sub 80 IQ, surely. I haven't played retail in a long time but with Metzen back I have hope. He knows what warcraft is all abount unlike the 50 year old women who have been running the story these past few years.

[@queenschism1234]

most classic andy's are subzero iq tbh and are just never happy about anything

[@igorrychert8119]

I think people are missing stuff here. SoD is their first true take on Classic+, classic team is nowhere near as big as retail, they don’t have the resources to make classic+ fully over a year or 2. They also wanna test out the waters as classic+ is so different depending on who u ask. Some people want these crazy changes whilst others strictly want pure vanilla with unreleased content. I think SoD is amazing, and that they should take their time with true classic+ gather all the information, test things out what the community likes and what they dislike so that when classic+ fully launches they know what they’re doing and people will be happy

[@user-xy7oq7oe6n]

they def went over the top with new spells added. They should have not given rogues a ranged slow + ranged 5 second stun that won't share DR's with kidney shot. Have fun sitting an 11sec stun

[@igorrychert8119]

@@user-xy7oq7oe6n that’s the point of all of this. If they did this and called in classic+ people would shit on it and it would be dead from day 1. Point is that this is the beginning of classic+ they get feed back and acknowledge what direction they should take. So that after a few seasons they can release a fully fledged classic+ experience with either drastic or minor changes to the world, quests, raids, classes etc. Kind of like OSRS where players contribute to the future of classic+

[@user-xy7oq7oe6n]

@@igorrychert8119 the only change they made that’s cool was lvl 25 max with new content, rest is garbage

[@Connor-bp9nu]

nah it's all pretty cool, I'm excited as fuck@@user-xy7oq7oe6n

[@merx3guy]

That’s not the only thing, they’re trying out low-level-only expansion, which is completely new concept for WoW. This is great, even as proof of concept. You’ll get an expansion that doesn’t purge your endgame progress and still deliver new content!

[@kamikazefreak95]

When she was talking about taking home the "discs" LOL> nostalgia hit of getting a brand new computer, and spending your entire day installing WoW, BC xpac, Wrath Xpac... lol all before the launcher days

[@JuraDenus]

She has hot mommy Energy 🥵

[@stqui]

Personally, I think the approach with one cohesive storyline for the next couple expansions is exactly what we've needed for the past 20 years. Every time a new expansion has been announced, we have left the old zones, travelled to a new location and all content has been revolved around that leaving the old content for dead. The expansion stories haven't been tied together in any way, which has left parts like Sargeras huge sword up in the air for so long. I'm glad that they are now focusing on ONE cohesive story while reusing the old world as well (Quel'Thalas, The Sunwell, Northrend). With that said: it seemed like a lot of people didn't see how this *potentially* can be a reset. If we look at the expansion titles and what Chris Metzen mentioned about each of them, we will be dealing with the void and something "terrible" will happen. Based on the last title, Azeroth will be the last remaining titan based on what unfolds during these 3 expansions. My assumption is that we try to heal the world in the first expansion, the void arrives and tries to consume the light in the second one and the titans arrive to drive the void away in the third one resulting in a huge clash resulting in only the world Azeroth remaining. With that, they can reset the world, the game and the lore (Final Fantasy style). Might be a crazy hypothesis, but that is my take nonetheless.

[@TR-ly6kq]

The Metzen announcement gave me so much hope and chills.

[@Mistermookey]

When i see the war within cinematic i remember Velen's prophecy about anduin.

[@LakeVermilionDreams]

Remind me? Please!

[@Mistermookey]

@@LakeVermilionDreams in the short novel about Velen in the website, many years ago, when Anduin was Velen pupil. Velen had a vision of an older Anduin, battlescarred, leading the army of the light in a battle with the embodiment of Darkness

[@LakeVermilionDreams]

​@@Mistermookeythank you! I'm so in and out of WoW lore that I need help, and I don't even have the time for Nobbel videos lol

[@SwedetasticGames]

Chris could sell seawater to a pirate.

[@erickbad2000]

Or another expansion to people who already know how bad blizz is at making expansions

[@malicant123]

19 years and still kicking. That's incredible when you think about it.

[@TheSeeringblade]

Love to see a bit of the xar bar

[@Nator316]

Actually they did said WOTLK going away but in a sutle way. They said they know when an expansion is over and they have to bring the next one. They also said CATA isn’t going to be around that long.

[@partricksterling182]

I can’t wait for November 30

[@ExplorationRandomDestination]

I dont really want to know what story comes next before im done with the first one lol.

[@cheftiger9741]

the reason The Worldsoul Saga, is a reset for wow is for a few reasons! 1) introducing more evergreen systems that will be with wow for its expanding future! 2) creating a narrative story that can expand multiple expansions (and in maybe future cases doesn't end or can have different endings based around other stories progressions) 3) The BIGGEST Reason is the capping off of old narratives, unfinished stories, messed up timelines to create a solid future for WoW's new stories that can lead us to new things, areas, and characters without restructuring what we know to make new things fit!

[@masoncat1]

Watching the Cata video got me emotional. WTF lol

[@LakeVermilionDreams]

Cata classic: i missed out on the goblim starting zone the first time, i'll be doing that. Then back to Hardcore!

[@pirategoku6238]

Who’s ready to get the achievement stood in the fire xD

[@tigeryumyums9407]

One of my all time favourite WoW achievements!

[@erikrulez17]

38:45 my worry for SoD is it's going to demolish the leveling experience an classic as a whole... I just hope they keep the actual classic realms live so even if I hate the new system I can still play the version of wow I at least know already that I enjoy.

[@user-xy7oq7oe6n]

THE LEVELING EXPERIENCE LOL, how many times u wanna level the same shit g

[@erikrulez17]

@@user-xy7oq7oe6n leveling through out the course of the game is the game. the moment they introduce new op gear or obnoxiously easy leveling strat it completely deludes from the core experience.

[@peeko_luxx2873]

I couldn’t imagine they would replace classic era servers by adding these changes to them. It’s probably going to be like SoM and have their own servers for a short window. Does seem like a bit of an experiment in terms of seeing how the community takes to classic being reworked. Either way, I’m pumped as all hell the more I think on it. I can’t imagine I’ll stay away from classic for long though. I think the future of both retail and classic is looking more promising than ever before. I mean, the fact they even added HC servers based on the communities demand shows they listen and at least care to the degree they do. Haven’t touched retail in years, skipped shadowlands and DF but what a time to be a fan of these games and the fact Metzen is back just strikes such nostalgia on top of the fact he’s a creative director again. Not just a figure head but actually helping guide the games forward is a huge plus in my book! Cheers y’all!

[@bos7522]

​@@erikrulez17 Ah so thats why 70% of characters have been powerleveled through dungeons, got it

[@kjuus1281]

Its wild how much better Metzen is at presenting than the other guys

[@ParzivalMcfly]

He’s the OG WoW daddy. This is his baby and he’s right at home. The others are just there for a job, which isn’t bad per se, but just not as involved as Metz.

[@Ashgrom]

He's OG Blizzard. It's a different type of guy.

[@diredevil1]

I do like that world soul saga is the end of wow or wow1, it seems to be tailored to end the wow story. The last titan would be great place to end the story(last titan is most likely the azeroth itself) and with it the world of azeroth would be gone.

[@fuadkattan6622]

Dude said the next 20 years 3 expansions at faster pace should 5 years

[@alexhanback]

Yeah that's not what they said lmao. They said it's the last chapter of this 20 year story arc, meaning another one begins after that. He didn't say it would end "wow"

[@ChairmanMeow1]

Metzen gives me hope

[@RT-wt7gu]

Seems like they opened their eyes and try to please everyone. For retails fans 3 new expansions with story like Endgame. For classic fans Cata. SSF for hardcore fans. And I guess "What If" for experimenting.

[@MrCarlWax]

@@kassenbonjon6897 Except that is the sole reason we got it. You're factually wrong, just mad about it.

[@sdhjsjana72js]

@@MrCarlWax You're deranged if you think blizz only did it because people were asking for it. They did it because they know they can squeeze every last dollar from gullible morons like you. It's funny to tell someone they're factually wrong yet have no facts of your own. Please Mr. Facts, where was everybody asking for cata. You got a poll or something? Everything I've seen makes it seem like the opposite was happening, nobody wants it man cope harder

[@azgaard]

The reuse of Northrend and Quel'Thalas/Eversong is a smart move. They can use the standard development time to create TWW and then use the existing assets as a shortcut in order to get the Midnight and Last Titan out much faster than the standard 2 year dev window. I would be shocked if this Saga was not on an annual release schedule (18 months tops).

[@1Forn61]

Yea and hit helpes to facilitate a revamp. Nah 12 Months is to short, i think 3 Raid Tiers is a must and yea about 16-18 Months sounds about right.

[@pcjoystiq827]

I dont understand this classic expac's.. when does it end. your just playing the same game over again. It's not the same, everyone knows what to do

[@ejlorbz]

the thing is a lot of people playing WoW now never did play a lot of the classic expansions...including Cata. I was too busy and young when that expansion came out so its nice to experience it now with tons of changes to make it even better

[@CrownVic977]

I think it will end on Mysts of Pandaria. They obviously don’t want to repeat Warlords of Draenor, but cata + MoP…that means another 2 years of content and ppl paying subs. After that, they’ll probably release something totally different. Personally I would have stopped at original classic and just add more content to it without adding expacks like they do now with runes and shit. Gives you classic mechanics but adds more content via small patches. I think people like the simplicity of classic and don’t want warriors who can like self heal back to 100% like we see in Cata.

[@LakeVermilionDreams]

That wrap up video... Where's Starcraft?!? I need more Starcraft games!!

[@Jadix]

Someones workin late

[@UPsideDOWNworld321]

they left way to many cliff hangers to the point where i have no idea what there hell there talking about...

[@zachtowner5832]

holly confirmed arakoa

[@ArgKnoxville86]

If you ask me, between al the puns and refferences, and the quality difference between the cinematic and the game itself, it feels like Wow is going to end with this Worldsoul Saga. And then Wow 2 will happen.

[@boganbattalion7088]

I got a dh to max lvl once and now between classic and retail I have 2 lvl 80's and every single class on retail plus a lot x2. I can't be bothered leveling in normal let alone HC

[@soapbox5684]

Had the big dragon rework the world Azeroth a decade ago. We begged for the old world back and now their gonna wreck the outside zones again

[@timothystevenhoward]

Chris is one of us. He is a geek. He is the soul of the game. Pun intended.

[@zetaritari]

classic+ finally here !!

[@Nephv2]

I'm incredibly worried that by the time we hit 60 in classic everyone is going to have 10 more buttons. I just don't think that's what people were thinking when they say Classic+. Everything else about SoD sounds awesome and if they can limit it to maybe 3 abilities at any given time I think that's cool. But we will just have to see how it plays out, so excited it's coming so soon and it's really great to see them taking a chance like this.

[@jessieansell6168]

Diablo 2 style buttons. You choose the one extra button you want, but depending on how you talent it gets different passives. Having a ton of extra abilities will clutter things up.

[@bos7522]

Oh so what u like about classic is that u only have to press 1 button, what an amazing experience

[@Nephv2]

@@bos7522 yeah that's totally what I said

[@bos7522]

@@Nephv2 i know, thats why i pointed it out

[@Nephv2]

@@bos7522 incredible reading comprehension, truly a mastermind of words

[@Sturtime]

People who are skeptical about retail still clearly have no understanding of the situation. Calling the WorldSoul Saga a massive L is braindead. Every single WoW announcement was a big dub.

[@maxsalazar2356]

7:12 HAHAHAHAHAHA HE HAD A BINGO CARD LMAOOOOOOOOOO. URE THE BEEEST BROO HAHAHAHAHa

[@gob8643]

Ngl that war within trailer was hype showing a more stoic Anduin compared to his whiny old self, I just wish I understood what exactly happened in shadowlands. Either way he seems like a much better character than the one we’ve been accustomed to since classic.

[@travisnobriga1777]

Classic + and sounds like retail wow going to be fun too! blizzard is back! Big W this blizzcon

[@jbo1108]

Is Chris the retro voice of thrall and peons and grunts and such?

[@CrownVic977]

Me not that kind of orc

[@svsv1191]

Can't wait for The Warlods Of Draenor expansion to come out!

[@toemasmeems]

It's a saga...which means it's a continuence which can't be contained in one expansion. It's 3 expansions.

[@jsczesny8939]

when did Xar's chat get so toxic?

[@KC-py5vq]

Bunch of dumb classic andies

[@Mitchel6489]

As far retail goes, Im worried theyre going to be pumping out expansions every year now instead of every 2. 90 dollars every year and a monthly sub?

[@tcherry3]

I’d rather have more expansions than have to deal with half a year of boredom in a last patch, but I agree on the price issue like you said

[@McSireson]

More likely it's 18 months

[@Mitchel6489]

@McSireson I'd say do away with the sub then, but that would just mean worse monetization

[@McSireson]

@@Mitchel6489 Yeah, i doubt that’s happening, even if i would like to see it.

[@sere971]

I wish the trend of including twitch chat in videos never caught on. It'd be nice to be able to actually watch the video without a constant string of dumb negativity in the corner of the screen at all times-- it's cool during hype moments but there always has to be *someone* making a rude or dumb comment or just being weird.

[@nickg586]

Noones forcing you to read literally anything bro just ignore it?

[@TheBrunobrogueira]

Im nearly done with video and didnt noticed the chat till now 😂 your comment should be applied to you and why you choose to read it

[@Hitora_San]

They will do the infamous Karazhan Dungeons into a raid in Season of Discovery, I'm rooting for you Classic players 😊

[@lucky9477]

It’s Gary not jerry for sar-gar-es not sarjerres

[@seanmoyer7589]

I'm hoping they dont sell it as 3 sets of 60 dollar expansions....

[@xRichhhx]

Man what happened to your chat Xaryu lmao, it's like a support group for classic boomers at this point

[@jaydub8576]

Great reaction, other streamers weren't very hype at all

[@erickbad2000]

xaryu is paid to be hyped

[@fancen]

yea

[@TakaChan569]

The WoW team is the only reason i care about Act/blizz, they have had such a turn around it's not perfect by any means but they are putting in the work.

[@itsnostress]

so yeah 3 expenasions on the same max level. kinda nice. ngl.

[@kevrogiers6665]

i just hope they arent lazy anymore in terms of tier sets and give every class a good looking one, not some cheap recolor for all plate wearers etc.....

[@soulsharts]

Too many things dropping at once, dammit. New tier drops in retail shortly, it feels like HC just came out, even though it's already been like 6 weeks or something, and then SoD at the end of this month.

[@Cakebong]

imagine being a chatter calling Matzen cringe

[@KC-py5vq]

Classic andies are cringe

[@sathdk79]

It's SARGG-ARAS

[@gabrielsden]

So...Its time to get back...

[@hvdhvd-zt3js]

its still amazing that people hate cata because of one bad raid that was to hard for them at the end of the expansion. cata was a good pve and pvp expansion players just wernt good enough to beat the last boss.

[@heavydutykingz7598]

everyone that was hyped about a classic plus where they add abunch of old cut content are the biggest copium addicts bc bliz was NEVER going to do that. bliz was always going to do the bare minimum when it comes to classic wow. oh and i dont understand why xaryu is confused for, like its litteraly one big expac spread across 3 instead of one where they wouldve had to cut stuff is my assumtion. doing it in three allows them to write a cohesive story they hopefully makes sense and not a random ass bullshit like SL was. the fact that EVERYTHING is made by robots is kinda lame asf. they shouldve had them being etheral beings they take forms we humanoid can understand. instead of robots with a hologram over their bodies

[@Vognyk325]

Amazing news ! Can’t wait for new retail. Retail over classic 🎉

[@TheMikesc15]

30:40 no wonder people still think wow has an alright story if the average wow player thinks that the voice from within Azeroth is fucking Sylvanas or Alexstrazsa...

[@Akeche]

You definitely were pronouncing Sargeras wrong lol.

[@paninii99]

I watched everything once, and Chris Metzen 5 more times

[@Hounze]

the chat negativity in stream is hilarious and pathetic XD

[@darrenleake3343]

How can you be confused about what the worldsoul saga is. They said exactly what it is and they couldn't have spelled it out any clearer. Try opening you ears.

[@toemasmeems]

I swear people bitch about not having classic plus but SoD is literally classic plus its just not called what you want it to be called. You wanted Classic with new shit...so you got it.

[@shadownova7056]

Hype

[@alexhanback]

God, chat is always so insufferable in these kinds of videos. Never satisfied with anything 💤💤 why cant people be optimistic

[@queenschism1234]

its because classic andy's like them are the most miserable people on the planet, they could be given riches and still be pissed

[@erikrulez17]

I think L's are because for Classic+ I believe people were hoping for them to update classes to be on par with each other in some regard. maybe some updated fights, and fix some glitchy things that killed alot of people in hardcore, but at least keep it to what is essentially the core game. This just felt like they were shoveling in retail related content into classic, as well as completely undermining the leveling experience with a 10man raid with loot that will more than likely ruin the experience, and end up creating a bunch of boosting characters through unnecessary means, which will ultimately ruin the leveling experience as a whole. I am however happy about the prospect of a earlier game chance of socializing within the game. only time will tell though.

[@lordhandsomeswag1854]

bro classic is already a thing and has been played OUT its OVER - time to add new content now grandpa

[@lance1625]

Like that's your opinion maaaan. You can play classic Era over and over and over and never have to worry about these shoveled changes.

[@minecraftminer59mineboymin38]

holly king

[@Hardivh]

so basically ff14

[@lost1head]

Would have preferred the twitch chat hidden tbh. So many people don't know to simply be quiet about things they aren't into.

[@zogbogbean2464]

Read what you just said. “Being quiet” has nothing to do with typing or reading lol you don’t have to read the chat. Cry baby

[@uphoriawow2405]

Your chat is the most toxic and nihilistic one I’ve seen. I genuinely feel sorry for Xar having to look at that anytime he feels excited and instantly be brought down by their negativity. Bitter lonely doomer’s attached to a 20 year old dead version of an otherwise thriving game

[@savitarr1162]

hate the chat ngl

[@Karnyx-py8pw]

season of discovery is just a copy of wow ascension. you can already do these class altering things.

[@tlyon5196]

Gotta say...how many different dwarfs do we need? I certainly hope this is the beginning of the end of this version of WoW and the prelude to "WoW2".

[@kaicrodrigues2578]

yea no they said world soul is the base for the next 20 years of wow not the end of it

[@JohnSmith-pj6wb]

its basically 1 expansion split into 3 to keep player retention..a lot of players leave after a xpan and they want to plug that by making the expansions lure and hold players in for longer...its a good business model albeit a little sinister but were talking about a billion dollar company here so money is all they think about

[@alexashley6514]

They think that adding mechanical complexity to classes is what will improve the game. Classic is a simple game, that's why it was so appealing and still is appealing.

[@boganbattalion7088]

An MMO that is splitting it's player base over 3-5 different versions? Either they will all feel dead or 1 will have everyone in it. My guess is classic + for a max of 2 mths then back to retail then cata when it releases. There will be non stop complaining about how classic plus is not classic plus once everyone realises that they have not tuned and balanced and in fact done the exact opposite making warlocks be able to throw up all their dots then go bear form.

[@janah6473]

At least youre ahead of the curve and are already complaining.

[@t-rekt8527]

I think SoD is just a beta. They will throw random shit at it and see what sticks for Classic+.

[@sdhjsjana72js]

@@janah6473 the wow player specialty

[@greatshaman0724]

the frickin edgy boi culture in your chat... its just sad to read

[@lockdown1068]

Manduin

[@boganbattalion7088]

I am so glad u admitted that, exactly like I said, people think cata was the downfall but it wasn't, that was just the time people were getting over it. Wow players seem to think that wow needs to entertain them for life giving them the same uphoria they had as kids but will never happen

[@Haxzaw]

...it's just like chasing the first high from any drug you've ever done. You can't get it back.

[@mcfarvo]

Cata is the official road to Retail, so silly to call it "Classic," but it may be a decent expac

[@Eddylol07]

SOD sounds hype af. Cata classic not so much. Classic era will die after wotlk

[@queenschism1234]

classic andy's are some of the most miserable people on earth, we don't even know much about the new expac and they're already malding...kinda funny

[@erikrulez17]

i'm not humoring cata without them giving solid evidence of changes. Because they didn't say pretty much anything about it.

[@afscrew123]

i cringe seeing xaryus chat shit on cata KEKW mfers dont know a good expansion when they see it

[@jasonfirth1165]

WHY DONT GET GET MOVIES LIKE THIS!!?!?!?!?!?!?

[@yuno3166]

The Money grab by blizz here is nuts .....

[@THEALBERNATER]

retail expan????? DF.20???? GG blizzard im done

[@michaelfernandes4873]

How do u play wow for 20 years and not know about azeroth’s world soul… lol

[@StevieCoupons]

Xaryu looks like a ferret lol

[@dapps9079]

The classic shit is hella boring, leave that shit in the past

[@kuyt3400]

Wow your a good actor. pretending like you didnt know lol

[@minecraftminer59mineboymin38]

feels like more people got hyped from classic

[@danny7694]

cause nobody wants cata classic except retail players and they'll quyit playing it within a week or 2. We've strayed too far with classic, it should've been classic+ ever since the original launch of classic. IDK why they even waited this long to start development on it.

[@sdhjsjana72js]

@@danny7694 because they had no idea how people would receive classic. I agree it definitely should've happened way earlier though

[@LakeVermilionDreams]

I think they overhyped the reveal of retail stuff. But over 3 expacs, they could easily shift WoW retail into WoW 2.

[@ibapreppie]

1 expansion 3 parts lol.

[@destinyreese1512]

Cata was trash in the beginning, why would classic players want to play a pay to win version? We don't want that ez mode retail trash. I guess we will just have to show them by our large numbers of people not resubscribing to their ez mode pay to win trash like we did when they announced the token for wotlk classic and like we did for the og cata. But to me they have taken the same proverbial road as budlight. They have gone too far this time and not coming back. Have fun with your ez mode pay to win trash you casual noobs.

[@alexh2097]

alot of talking about the story of retail which has always been kinda epic but aslong as gameplay doesnt change A LOT still no hope for that shit. SOD looks fire tho.

[@nunyabidness8281]

Is it that hard to complete all quests in original wow classic? With progressive servers? Feel like Blizzard are being little b***** about how bad retail is