30,000 Mile MotoFab Leveling Kit Review!!!

#Silverado #LiftedTruck #33s
Giving you a 30K+ mile review on my setup... a 2.5" MotoFab Leveling Kit, 2" MotoFab Lift Block Kit, and MotoFab Upper Control Arms all for 2014-2019 Chevy and GMC 1/2 ton trucks!
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[@120Mendiola]

We have the same vision for our trucks! Stock look but a little level would finish it! Thank you for the update! Same precautions and standards that I was looking for!!

[@seanmelnyk8490]

I'm not usually a fan of the non-Z71 front grilles on this body style but your setup is so clean I'm honestly reconsidering how I feel about them. Keep up the videos man you're giving me ideas for my own truck build.

[@zarinagerling512]

We have a 2017 gmc Z71 double cab. 4x4. It has 265 70R17 tires on aftermarket rims. They sit flush with the fenders. I spent days looking for a leveling kit then came across the motofab. We had the 3” kit that came with 3” block in the front with 2” block in the rear with the upper control arms. Honestly after everything is said and done, you need to replace the upper control arm bolts. Our truck was aligned with zero rubbing. I noticed the truck is more responsive. For some reasons the upper control arms are a weak design. Besides the upper control arms make it pop.

[@GoDawgs18]

I like factory rake too I love having my rear end high in the air while my front is on the ground

[@ritotron5752]

Surprised more people didn’t see the humor here

[@christianlongoria2948]

I’m only 15 but as soon as I buy my first truck I plan on doing all this mods to it, love your vids man their so informational and make me wanna do everything you’ve done to my future one! Keep up the work man

[@JohnWargo93]

Appreciate it brother 🤟🏼🤟🏼

[@GoDawgs18]

Good luck!

[@Pdeloosha]

I agree about the rake for sure. Putting a little bit of weight in the back of the truck and having it sag isn’t the way it supposed to be unless you’re going for that look.

[@joshuasantiago9978]

Just received my 2.5 motofab leveling kit from the front and now I want to do the rear also for the fact I love a bigger rear end

[@bradenhorton8406]

Hey John, I know this video is older so sorry but I just discovered it. If you get time, I have this same 2018 half ton 4WD double cab. Is there any chance you may be able to link the control arm you purchased for it? and how did the CVs hold up with this level?

[@JohnWargo93]

@@bradenhorton8406 right here brother motofablifts.com/i-30558324-17-18-chevy-gmc-silverado-sierra-1500-upper-control-arms.html?ref=category:1390599 Truck did well with this setup. However, sold it like 8k miles after so can’t attest for long term reliability.

[@travisjxxx]

I have the same set up. I’ve done a lot of the same mods as you bud.

[@iPkallDayLong]

What's your thought on putting rear traction bars after leveling? Figured it would help with any axle roll the block might be creating, and the bars looks pretty cool. Lmk! I just bought a 2018 silverado 1500 with 30k miles

[@JohnWargo93]

Absolutely.. thought about doing them on this truck. Will most likely do them on the current truck especially since we’re building some more power.

[@paulcondie2520]

I have a 2017 Silverado with a 6" RC Lift on 33's, aftermarket exhaust, regeared with 410s, plan on going up 2 more inches on 37s, tuner and just installed KSP traction bars. Don't want no wheel hop and just want no issues. KSP works great!

[@DaveChr]

So there is no problem running this set up with the Motofab UCA's with the stock wheels? I have the same truck and think this is the perfect set up for me. It would be a deal breaker though if I couldn't run the stock wheels.

[@JohnWargo93]

Stock wheels rub the MotoFab UCAs

[@zachboudria4647]

I have the same setup except I got rough country UCA’s. I have a small diff drop spacer kit too, would you recommend putting the diff drop in or do you think it would cause more problems than it’s worth? Thanks!

[@JohnWargo93]

Don’t think the diff drop kit will harm anything. I used to run them when I lifted my Wranglers all the time

[@somedude0505]

At 5:34 it looks like your ball joint is already bad.

[@ronlecomte5328]

I have the same setup on my 2020 Z71 LT & Love it. But as of now unfortunately MotoFab does not make the upper replacement control arm for the 2020. Hopefully soon.

[@joeblow7634]

You can use any upper control arm brand, rough country has a good one

[@FlyEaglesFly19111]

Glad your doing well. Stay safe bro.

[@aarontrailblazerss0741]

When you say you have a 2in lift block for rear is that a total of 2in or really like a 3.25 because i hear the stock is 1.25in just asking bc im looking to order rear block when pulling my boat without a sag

[@JohnWargo93]

You’re correct, the new blocks are a full 2” taller than the factory blocks. Gives you a 2” lift, but the blocks themselves are a good 3.25”.

[@robertog4351]

My 18 is only RWD should I stay with the 2.5 with the uca or go 3” ? It’s currently stock, it’s my daily driver I drive city and highway, trying to get as much information as possible.

[@JohnWargo93]

I’d personally stay with the 2.5” level with UCAs. 3” guys tend to tear stuff up and ruin ride quality from everything I’ve heard.

[@tannerharrison1143]

Did you have to put wheel spacers on the front due to the control arms rubbing?

[@JohnWargo93]

Negative. They did rub the uppers. At full lock. Spacers probably would have fixed that.

[@CollinZ71]

I know this truck is sold but I have the same Motofab level in my 2018 Z71. The UCAs are great, but I have 20x10s for a summer setup. I’ll be going back to my stock 18s for winter. Did you have to run a wheel spacer or anything to clear the control arm with the factory 18s?

[@JohnWargo93]

I’d recommend you to, yes.. I didn’t though. Factory 18’s, the tires rubbed on the UCAs. I’m sure wheel spacers would help!

[@CollinZ71]

@@JohnWargo93 thanks man! I appreciate the timely reply!!

[@rosendosalazarj.r5533]

Maybe dumb question but you did remove the stock blocks before adding your 2 in blcks

[@JohnWargo93]

Yessir

[@IvanRamirez-fs3sf]

Did you notice any difference in the ride quality? I just got a 18 and thinking to install this kit thank you

[@JohnWargo93]

Nahh rode pretty much the same as stock

[@mauriciocastro6363]

Did you ever have vibration issues whith this kit? I just installed it in my 2021 Sierra. I'm getting vibrations at low speed, and when breaking. And the rear wheels jump over bumps at the store, as the shock now is more extended, so the suspension is getting to the maximum travel wth very little bumps. I got them from American Trucks, it seems they don't want to take responsibility of the product they are selling, they sent me to talk to the manufacturer. Worst cuatomer service ever, they should take care of the whole process.

[@JohnWargo93]

Interesting. No, I didn’t have any issues while running this setup. Got the kit straight from MotoFab. Maybe reach out to those guys? I’ve had good luck with chatting back and forth with them directly.

[@GoDawgs18]

So if I get a 3.5 front leveling kit for 09 Silverado I will definitely need upper control arms? Front and back wheel wells are 3.5 inches apart

[@JohnWargo93]

I would highly recommend them, yes sir

[@azmaier100]

What you think a 1" block in back and 2.5" in front" Keep it pretty level but might keep ass end up

[@JohnWargo93]

I ended up putting a 2” block in the back. Looked perfect to me! Sure 1” would help as well!

[@craignixon3228]

I did 2.5 up front and 1 in in rear. It’s 1 in higher now in rear.

[@erickmayorga9684]

hey brother i have a question i just bought the 2.5” level lift kit and im putting them on a 2018 silverado. Do you think i need UCAs or are my stock ones fine? Truck only has 80k miles right now.

[@JohnWargo93]

They’re not a necessity but they definitely help. I ran the truck with OEM UCAs for a few thousand miles before adding them.

[@erickmayorga9684]

@@JohnWargo93 Got you thanks for the reply

[@SD_13_]

Iv got cst 5.5 lift running 35s FTW 🙌

[@manuelramos9143]

Which lift did you get and how do you like it? Just heard about CST not too long ago.

[@cray8705]

Any issues with the new UCA’s rubbing on the tires? I have a 2” leveling kit and getting overwhelmed with all the differing reviews of all the different UCA manufacturers out there

[@JohnWargo93]

With the new UCAs, yes the stock wheels/tires rub them. With aftermarket wheels and 33s they do not.

[@REDDELECTRIC]

@@JohnWargo93what offset is your aftermarket wheels? i want to get 2.5 level with RC UCA's on 33's and im thinking -12 offset should be a good fit

[@JohnWargo93]

@@REDDELECTRIC these are a -44

[@GoDawgs18]

Out of 10 how hard was the installation for the front great vid too

[@lawrencebush8543]

I just did a 3 inch on my 18 cree cab. I did the UCA's and Bilstein 5100s on all 4 corners.Took 4 hours

[@ismaellara2154]

I'm curious.... If I get a 3 inch lift I would need to upgrade my upper control arms? If so would there be any major problems moving forward?

[@JohnWargo93]

Would highly recommend it, yes. Should be good after level and UCAS!

[@4-matic212]

​@@JohnWargo93 I bought the 3 in leveling kit too will the upper control arms save it ?

[@JohnWargo93]

@@4-matic212 from my understanding, yes! The uppers really help relive the stress off the arms.

[@derekwagner5103]

Hey John you say you put 2.5 in the front and 2 inch block in the rear

[@JohnWargo93]

Yessir!

[@lwood5375]

Is the 2inch rear lift a 3' block taking the factory 1" out to achieve 2" total??

[@JohnWargo93]

Yessir

[@lwood5375]

@@JohnWargo93 thank you

[@leonardoreyes2741]

Please Help!! I had a 3 inch strut spacer installed yesterday but when I got home I saw that the cv boot was leaking a lot of grease and you can't see where it came from, could you recommend something?

[@JohnWargo93]

Happens often.. someone ripped the boot I’d assume installing your level. Going to need to replace the boot.

[@leonardoreyes2741]

@@JohnWargo93 wow man ! thanks for the reply so quickly . Mine is 17 Silverado but I just worries about if I do replace the axle but have the same trouble in the future what do you think ?

[@JohnWargo93]

@@leonardoreyes2741 unfortunately 3” is pretty steep for the CV angles.. definitely a risk running such a tall level. These trucks seem to take a 2.5” level fine.

[@leonardoreyes2741]

@@JohnWargo93 got it . Thanks 🙏

[@augustinepena3870]

Did they come greased up ready for install

[@JohnWargo93]

Yes!!

[@dannyminiaci9964]

Could yiu please tell me the over all high of truck once done both level front and rear of truck ?

[@JohnWargo93]

I would be able to, but I sold that truck back in April of this year… sorry man!

[@IvanRamirez-fs3sf]

@@JohnWargo93 THANK YOU FOR THE VIDEOS Hey John Im planning to buy a 18 Silverado 1500 do you recommend this truck THA K YOU

[@JohnWargo93]

@@IvanRamirez-fs3sf yes sir! Great rig!

[@brockgordon5429]

Off subject but howd you black out the gap between the windows?

[@JohnWargo93]

Vinyl!

[@Jlmiii_]

Say I get the 2.5 leveling kit plus the motofab UCA’s would stock tires or a 275 rub on the arms?

[@JohnWargo93]

Yeah I’d say.. mine definitely did

[@Jlmiii_]

@@JohnWargo93 Thanks for the fast reply. Really appreciate it man. Nice looking truck by the way!🔥

[@justinm371]

I have a 2016 silverado 1500 with the 2.5" Motofab leveling kit also. I have a popping noise when I turn the steering wheel. Does anyone know what might be causing the noise?

[@xNosTea]

Did you replace the Upper control arms? You might be hitting the droop stop

[@billyroe]

Steering rack is what I’m guessing, I’m having the same issue on my 2016 with a 3” level

[@errljr6830]

Think I could run 22s with 35s? With this kit or 33s perfered??

[@JohnWargo93]

Nahh check out LMFs Crew on KZbin. 35s don’t really work on our trucks without like a 4” lift without some major trimming. 33s seem to do the trick 👍🏼

[@viixiconik]

I thought about purchasing the blocks but went with bilstein right height adjustable struts instead and a 2 inch shackle drops in the rear.

[@JohnWargo93]

Bet that actually rides really nicely 👌🏼

[@viixiconik]

@@JohnWargo93 comfortable than the stock shocks that came with the truck imo.

[@JohnWargo93]

@@viixiconik oh I believe it! I replaced my rears with Bilstein 5100s and they’ve been pretty great

[@kcsparrow616]

I had a question on your thoughts on 20" wheels and bigger tires. I was going to buy some 20x9 with a 33" wheel now having second thoughts after reading the cons of going bigger on a truck that came with 18" stock wheels and tires. I dont mind the loss of a couple mpg but a few little things liken the truck not accelerating like it use and possible having to regear the truck. I just read a few things that might impact the truck by going bigger. Was curious on your thoughts Thanks again!

[@JohnWargo93]

Runnings 20s and 33s aren’t crazy in my opinion.. it’s once you bump to 35s and what not where it seems 1/2 ton gas trucks get sluggish. I ran my 20x12s and 33s a good 25k miles and had no issues. Lost about 2-3mpg average but wasn’t bad. Still was able to do burnouts without ease 👌🏼

[@kcsparrow616]

Thanks. Did you lose alot of acceleration? Or not noticable?

[@JohnWargo93]

@@kcsparrow616 I mean you can definitely tell when you initially switch the the bigger and heavier setup, but the feeling goes away and it becomes normal after a few hundred miles. Check out my top viewed video on this channel, goes over the differences between my OEM wheels/tires vs my aftermarket 20s and 33s. I weigh them both and what not too!

[@kcsparrow616]

I'll check it out. Thanks

[@kcsparrow616]

I thought in one of your video you mentioned you do mostly highway driving (maybe I'm wrong). I do almost all highway miles maybe a handful of time a year I'll go offroad to hunt or fish. Do you go passenger tire or LT (load e 10ply). I know the 10 ply costs more but not sureif its worth it for what I do. Thanks again?

[@Ivan-jc8hr]

did you rub any with the aftermarket wheels?

[@JohnWargo93]

Oh yeah! Have a few videos on the channel going into detail on the rubbing! Check em out!

[@bigdaddy343343]

Did the motofab upper control arms rub on the black rhinos?

[@JohnWargo93]

Negative. Only with the stock wheels.

[@bigdaddy343343]

@@JohnWargo93 Thanks man !!! I really appreciate it.

[@josephwilcox7487]

Love it

[@chanppion]

Beautiful truck and about the gas mileage change?

[@JohnWargo93]

Woth the lift? Nothing noticeable if any at all. Didn’t effect my fuel mileage until I did bigger wheels/tires

[@chanppion]

@@JohnWargo93 thank you 🙏🏼 I think about lift my truck

[@JohnWargo93]

@@chanppion I think you’ll enjoy it 😉

[@chanppion]

@@JohnWargo93 I have a question you started with what size tires and upgraded to what size inches 33 to 35 or what

[@JohnWargo93]

@@chanppion stock tires are 265/65/18s and I bumped up to 33/12.50/20 Check out my most popular video on my channel, it’ll be on my homepage. I go into detail and compare the two setups side by side!

[@arobledo6398]

When are you trading it for a f250

[@JohnWargo93]

Haha good question 🤔

[@Biohazardpiano2010]

I did the 2.5" level kit as well from motofab. But I chose to go air ride in the back and I love it, being able to adjust the rear to the load. Took off my 18x10 wheels and 285/65 toyo tires because they rode incredibly stiff, they would eject me out of my seat almost, going over bumps lol. So I'm back on stock wheel and tires. Got 31k miles on my truck

[@JohnWargo93]

Yoooo air ride would be nice for the rear

[@Biohazardpiano2010]

@@JohnWargo93 You probably already know him, but Guitarmageddonzl1 did air ride in his silverado who gave me inspiration for it. If you haven't you, should look up his KZbin vid if you are interested :D

[@JohnWargo93]

@@Biohazardpiano2010 yeah man I’ve seen his content a few times. Good dude, nice whips. If I were keeping this truck long term I would definitely consider air ride. Next rig will be a great candidate for it!!

[@Biohazardpiano2010]

@@JohnWargo93 looking forward to the next project!

[@JohnWargo93]

@@Biohazardpiano2010 appreciate that brother 🤟🏼🤟🏼

[@squerlyq]

The music is way to gansta for a white truck...