.30-06 Spr. vs .308 Win. Comparison or Contrast

[@safakaswedishairgunforum-n1490]

old school every day of the week!

[@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009]

Thanks for watching.

[@EverydayReloadingandShooting]

If you turn that 30-06 group 75° to the left, you have an almost identical group to the 308. That, with a nine power scope compared to a 24 power scope and chassis. Excellent shooting. Very impressed. Keep dropping the content for us.

[@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009]

Thanks for watching and commenting Dennis.

[@hoffpbass]

I've got the new school version. Good to see one doesn't lose much in velocity. Thanks Dave!

[@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009]

Once you transition to heavier bullets the ole 06 has an advantage do to greater powder capacity. Thanks for watching.

[@reloadingfun]

thanks for the video, dave! That was an interesting comparison to see.

[@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009]

Thanks for watching.

[@BobbyTunes88]

As a retired military guy....now 74 yrs old, Ive shot BOTH (extensively), and its just BULLSHIT thaat there is a nickels difference in both these fine loadings. "COMPETITION" shooting over 500 yards may give a tiny nod to one over the other, however, trying to be "clinical" vs. realistic....gives no great advantage to either. oh, wow.....my ancient 06 dropped 2 inches... BUT instead of a chest strike, I guess my "error" hit him in the liver.....and the exit wound only allowed him to live .03 of a second longer. Please guys get real.

[@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009]

Agree, somewhat. The -06 has some advantages, such as, more powder capacity and range of powder options and preferred bullet weights. But everyone will have their own personal preferences and experiences with each cartridge/rifle combination, including optimal barrel length. Thanks for your comment here.

[@bobcatforever3485]

Dave. Always a good and interesting video. Nice shooting as well. Thanks for sharing and take care.

[@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009]

Thanks Bobcat.

[@carlwilliams6300]

Great video buddy I like that ol 30-06 👍

[@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009]

Thanks for watching.

[@henrymoreland8719]

I fancy himself as a hunter, so, give me the old school Rifle, in the more modern chambering. Thanks for showing

[@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009]

Thanks for watching.

[@danielharmon6316]

Keep up the great videos!!

[@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009]

Thanks for the kind words here.

[@Fusako8]

For me, the deciding factor was the flexibility -06 brought in handloading. So when I got back into ballistics in 2006, it was fitting to get the centry old cart.

[@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009]

A great cartridge indeed. Thanks for watching.

[@ryanglass3570]

Hi Dave I watch most of your content and I am a fan. I just have one more contrast to add in respect to heavier bullets, the 308 suffers a lot more in the powder column with longer heavier bullets this what really separates the 30-06 and the .308 not forgetting to mention how the 30-06 can utilize slower burning powders to push the heavies. But if people are happy in that weight class then the .308 is a great cartridge.

[@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009]

Agree completely. Thanks for your comment here.

[@nmelkhunter1]

Well said.

[@Off-target-xy6bx]

Modern powders have also helped us reloaders in the 06 department.

[@ryanglass3570]

@@Off-target-xy6bx Yes sir 100%

[@scottm7365]

Good Stuff, Strohmeyer! .270 soon hopefully! Pulled the pre-64 model 70 featherweight out for this whitetail season and looking forward to a segment on the great .270! Keep em comin, Strohmeyer!

[@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009]

You've got a real gem there in your pre-64 model 70. Best wishes for your deer season.

[@luvtahandload7692]

My buddy drew a highly coveted elk tag in our state and also happened to receive a new rifle for Father's day. (Good to be him!) Ruger American Gen II 308. So I scoped it up and zeroed it in. It liked CFE223 with 165 Partitions. I notice Hornady goes up to 47.2grs with their bullets for about 2700 fps. Wonder what you could do with those 150 SSTs. If I may say, you look much more at home with your 30-06, 25-06 and your 300 Roy than with your ARs and chassis guns. But they're all fun I 'spose! Thanks Dave!

[@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009]

I had to be careful with CFE- 223 with the SST's as the 150 grain projectiles showed very high velocity even at Hornady's listed starting load. But it is accurate.

[@luvtahandload7692]

@@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 yes, speed was good. I used Hornady's data with the Partition. Of course, I started low and whenever I mix bullet makes, I measure the bearing surface of each slug. Easy to do with Hornady's LNL COAL comparator. But when measuring boattail bullets, I also use a hexagonal bullet comparator to put the boattail in. 165 Partition and 165 Hornady Spire Point have bearing surfaces within .005" of each other. I even write the bs length on the box for future use.

[@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009]

@@luvtahandload7692 You are certainly more thorough than I am.

[@luvtahandload7692]

@@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 I forgot to mention that when comparing bullet length, they must be of the same construction type. Looking forward to the next one!

[@williamgaines9784]

The only "fairing up" in that shootout should be that ths scopes be set at similar power. The other differences are just what they are. Old faithful stood up pretty well.😊

[@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009]

Yes, it did hold up well. Thanks for watching.

[@lmbear]

@@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 The glass bedding fix is work well. Looks like you had someone, that knows what they are doing, do the work. Nice 30-06. I have some pre 64's that shoot better, but yours is very consistent..

[@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009]

@@lmbear Yes the repair work did provide better consistency.

[@haroldmilroy4489]

With light for the caliber bullets there isn’t much difference at all. However when you get to 200 and 220 bullets it’s no contest the increased powder capacity of the 06 dominates.

[@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009]

My experience is the 168gn bullet is the preferred round for the 308 win. @ 2,650fps. However that same bullet in the 30-06 is is 2,850fps. So 200fps is a significant difference indeed. Thanks for your comment here.

[@aown]

Good information sir thank you

[@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009]

Thanks for watching.

[@onebadjack1313]

Nice contrast between the two. On Ultimate reloader, they pushed the .308 really hard w alpha brass, I think it was. Almost to 300 win velocity if I remember right.

[@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009]

I think I saw that video. Thanks for watching.

[@courtlandgraham8392]

Have you tried mounting a 30-06 action into a new stock with LOP and comb adjustability ? I only ask this because I found a Remington 710 for under 200$, my plans were a Boyd’s stock ( fully adjustable) with modern glass . Thanks for you time and the video .

[@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009]

I wanted to keep my 30-06 original as possible. I suggest you view my previous 3 videos on this 30-06. Thanks for watching. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eHXMeXSglK6ZnrM

[@bigmedicine8042]

The old Uncle Ted Williams didn't do to bad.

[@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009]

Thanks for watching.

[@gsitzkowitz]

I’ve been doing this 308/30-06 dance for over er 40 years. Read articles from experts at nauseam. My own are observations are these. With two identical rifles the difference in terminal ballistics on game is around 70 yards give or take. It’s easier to cheat with the 308. For instance a 22” 30-06 vs a 24” 308 the performance difference are negligible at best. The 308 short action will be fast to cycle, theoretically, and recoil will be noticeable lighter. The 30-06 have better performance with heavier bullets, 180, particularly at longer ranges. The reason don’t have a 30-06 is that if I want a rifle of that size I chose the 7 mag. It’s flatter, kicks about the same and out ranges the 30-06. If I don’t need those capabilities, I have a 308. If I’m under 225 yards, I have the 300 Hamr. It’s good to have options.

[@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009]

Agree with all your good observations, the only exception being the 7mm Mag. As I chose the the 300 Mag's instead. I am new to the 300 Ham'r and look forward to testing it's terminal performance soon. Thanks for your comments here and for watching.

[@gsitzkowitz]

@@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 interestingly enough, the seven mag has a little bit better down range ballistics than the 300 magnum and significantly less recoil. But it is limited to the bullet weight of the 7 mm. Options and trade offs.

[@JamesSoisson]

have you tried IMR 4064 in both.

[@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009]

No I have not. Thanks for the suggestion.

[@cw2a]

Good evening Dave! ❤❤❤

[@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009]

How'd the Ham'r testing go?

[@cw2a]

@@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 Loads and bullets shot well not awesome. I don't think I have fired a "bad" group. Worst has been 1.5/1.75" @ 100 yards. But I have refined top most load. Range again soon.

[@bassplayersayer]

I have a favorite rifle. A 1943 Springfield 1903A3 of coarse it is 30.06. with a BSA 16x scope. This rifle is just superior to other rifles in both 30.06 and .308. I don't really see that much difference in these calibers, It comes down to the rifle and how it fits You.

[@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009]

Glad you found your rifle and cartridge combo fit. Thanks for watching

[@docbarber44]

What table and barrel clamp/stand are you using?

[@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009]

No clamp. just a V yoke. www.amazon.com/X-Stand-Hunting-Shooting-Bench-Swivel/dp/B07H9NLJD2

[@northerngunner2756]

The 308 vs 3006 . Whats the differences. About 10 grains of gun powder. That’s it. They shoot the same bullets , use the same powder and primer. Roughly 42 gains for the 308 . Roughly 52 grains for the 3006. The extra 10 grains of powder allows the 3006 to propel the bullet a little faster on the positive side. On the negative side the 3006 kick’s slightly harder , cost a little bit more per shot and reduces barrel life slightly. Thats it no mystery here. If you want more power the the 308 go to the 3006 . If you want more power than the 3006 go to the 300 win mag.

[@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009]

No argument here. But slightly better is still better. One caveat though is the 168gn seems to be the bullet of choice in the 308 win. @2,600fps. The 30-06 shoots the 165gn @ 2,850fps. A significant difference indeed. Thanks for watching.

[@willy4571]

LEVER ACTION!!!

[@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009]

I don't have either cartridge in a lever action, Sorry.

[@johnlong7504]

Guten Tag Herr Strohmeyer, do you still speak / understand German or is it all gone by now?

[@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009]

No German, only American English.

[@johnlong7504]

Thanks, did you ever follow up on where your folks originated in Germany?

[@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009]

@@johnlong7504 My Great Grandparents immigrated to the USA in the 1890's from the Bavarian region, between Munich and near the Austrian border. I forgot the name of the village.

[@johnlong7504]

Thanks, take care and shoot safe!

[@NeilMacMillan-fb3hd]

why not compare 30 .06 and30 .03 British

[@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009]

Would be a good comparison, but I haven't owned a Enfield 303 for 45 years. Others on KZbin have covered them well enough.

[@KellyJones-be9kn]

Do like Mr Strohmeyer and buy both. Be happy great job Brother

[@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009]

Thank for the kind words here and for watching.

[@kalindanley2843]

generally when shooting chassis, put that thumb up on the shelf!

[@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009]

Not a comfortable position for me, but Thanks for the comment here.

[@kalindanley2843]

@@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009 it wasn't for me either. It took a bit to adjust and appreciate the differences in "trigger pull". It's really only going to matter if you're around a 2lb trigger pull.

[@pete1735]

30.06 a lot closer to the bullseye as far as group about the same

[@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009]

Yes, but a simple scope adjustment will work well for both. Thanks for watching.

[@brian770]

so close its a total wash......

[@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009]

Agree, but the main differences are both generational and preference. Thanks for watching.

[@peteharder6325]

Good lord, compared apples to oranges in this one

[@erikjensen6503]

Thanks for sharing. Looks like a draw to me. I'm a 30-06 guy but my cousin is a 308 guy. Short action long action both wood 1970 1980's vintage Remington hunting rifles

[@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009]

Thanks for watching and for your comment here.

[@michaelraines93]

thanks for the great video. from a 30-06 fan! but never realized the % of recoil and velocity difference.

[@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009]

Thanks for your comment here and for watching.