30 Cal Muzzle Brake Shootout: 9 Brakes Compared Head-To-Head!

[@mrmatt7210]

Excellent video. Generally speaking, there are three things I'm interested in regarding muzzle brakes. 1. What is the Increase in noise level to the shooter. 2. How will a given muzzle brake change the poi of my rifle from being sighted in without a muzzle brake? 3. Recoil reduction. Your video has thoroughly covered #3 and I hope you can include the other two points in a future video.

[@jaclynlandry7327]

As an engineer and a precision shooter, I love this content. You have some of the most useful reviews on the internet - real scientific data for product evaluation. Please keep it up.

[@johnkissam8312]

Absolutely!! Precision and clarity.

[@Ultimatereloader]

@@johnkissam8312 Thanks for appreciating what we do guys!

[@danking4582]

I second third fourth and 10th that motion. Excellent work! Keep it up! Ignore the naysayers who have nothing better to do.

[@NaNa-rb7ou]

I think you have the ultradyne muzzle break upside down

[@rogersreview]

Would love to see a recoil reduction test with silencers - especially contrasting flow through designs with high back pressure “gas trap” designs.

[@kiasax2]

As a former physics instructor and former sniper, I was intrigued to see the terrifically specific data you were collecting in your research. I'm trying to determine which .30 caliber muzzle brake to purchase and your work will be the yardstick I use before making my decision. I've not seen any other guntuber doing such intricate research in this area. The Apolo Max appears to be the brake that accomplished the mission best. This has been a gratifying experience. Seeing a young man doing significant research in this arena restores my faith in the STEM capability of your generation. Bravo, Sir, bravo. Extremely well done, indeed. You have my gratitude and thanks. To say thanks as we say in Cherokee, wa-do. Pronounced wah-doe.

[@MatthewLeviFoster]

If you haven’t got one yet, do it. You will not be let down.

[@TFoley-mm9ff]

Ultradyne apollo S

[@GB-zi6qr]

I have to echo the Ultradyne Apollo. I bought one for 6.5 Grendal, reduced perceived recoil to almost nothing on an AR platform. I know, Grendal doesn't have much recoil anyway. I am trying to reduce rifle jump and this helped a great deal.

[@MitchShurden]

@TFoley-mm9ff What's the difference between the Apollo Max and the Apollo S...?

[@GB-zi6qr]

@@MitchShurden to the best of my knowledge, the difference has to do with bore size.

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

Very cool test. Thanks for all the hard work on this.

[@Ultimatereloader]

Thanks guys- love your channel!

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

@@Ultimatereloader 👊

[@sethcarlin8428]

How does your pulling trigger affect the recoil? Are you adding a variable by not pulling the same way every time? How about the other hand bracing the firearm? Probably should have a trigger pull rig to pull the same way every time and then do testing with dummy rounds to quantify without actual recoil.

[@weegaz22]

was about to ask the same thing when I seen him bracing the scope then seen this comment, not judging, just curious as to if there would be a measurable affect on the data.

[@thorwaldjohanson2526]

Remember that the peak forces were 360-700 pounds, a 2 pound trigger pull won't influence the curve really

[@travisbonnett491]

it's a 26lb rifle....i'm sure he's not gonna skew his results on a 2-3lb trigger pull...give him credit for doing stuff you your self are not going to do or test

[@sethcarlin8428]

@@thorwaldjohanson2526 2 pounds may be the force required for the trigger to release but the force applied to the trigger will be greater. In addition the angle will very each time. It would be very much either, I've seen some pretty basic setups. The ones used at Lake City are extremely simple, no over thinking required.

[@strider7008]

A 26lb rifle will mute a lot of recoil however. It seems like a lot of effort to still be imprecise.

[@USAACbrat]

i bought an EC tuner brake, put it on a Unitau Precision upper. With 168 A-Max, the difference between brake and no brake on 0, the group went from 1.5 to 3/4".

[@MatthewLeviFoster]

Dude! I can’t tell you how much this helped me choose the Apollo Max. Got one based on yours and another comparison. Went to the range today where there were three 300 WinMags. Mine with the Apollo Max and two other with no brakes; one had no recoil pad (older model) and another newer with pad. I can say without a doubt the Apollo max SIGNIFICANTLY reduced recoil. 3 shooters, all agreed. Great video!

[@nomeqsu]

I am just checking out the Apollo max but there seems to be incompatible with 300 win mag? How does the recoil feel like? Like which caliber? Thanks!

[@mikeherrmann5360]

Try this test with an undersized round like 6mm or 6.5 PRC. through the 30 CAL. brakes

[@quickshot1cav]

The ultradyne apollo is upside down. It's what I use on my 300prc it is very comfortable to shoot

[@dustinchristopher66]

You were grabbing the firearm during testing. Wouldn’t that affect your results? You could be putting different pressure on the gun for each round. Should be testing while no touching the firearm at all except to pull trigger.

[@leadcloud]

The force from the trigger pull will be around 1-3lbs, on a 26lb gun. That amount of pressure is absolutely negligible compared against the peak recoil force. The differences will just be lost in the noise of the data

[@dustinchristopher66]

I wasn't referring to him pulling the trigger. But he is grabbing the scope. I don't know how much pressure he is putting on it and it could be varying with each round.

[@leadcloud]

@@dustinchristopher66 even then, we are still only talking about at most a pound or two of pressure on the scope, a pound or two on the trigger, and then 500lbs of recoil force. The Impact of his hands on the gun won't even show up on the graph

[@TAWier]

What about the fact that he had both Ultradyne Apollo muzzle devices oriented the wrong way during testing? Could that affect the effects of the recoil measurements?

[@thegoodguy729]

I agree with you! We have no idea how much pressure he was applying with his hand on the scope Nd how consistent that pressure was from shot to shot. Very nice test, but tainted by the hand. He needs to find a way to conduct the test without his stabilizing hand.

[@jdrollason]

Interesting results. I know you did 300 PRC, but it would be interesting to see the results in say 6.5 or 6 creed with a 30 cal muzzle brake since having a larger tolerances helped in creating less recoil results. Just me 2 cents and thank you for showing us the results.

[@ThePookybear56]

While some of the better brakes on the chart did have higher clearances, some of the runner ups also had a tight clearance like the ec tuner brake and the hellfire, I would say they may not exactly be linked but it would be intersting to test. I wonder if they could do the same test with a 300 prc on the hellfire, then open up the bore of the hellfire and retest it to see what the results are. Just my .02

[@CeoTHULHU]

Gavin, I'd love to see those expanded to include Muzzlebrakesandmore, APA muzzle breaks as well as Terminator muzzle breaks

[@TMS5100]

APA brakes strangely missing... precisionrifleblog surveyed professional long range shooters and it was by far the most popular.

[@matthewortiz8824]

Agreed.!

[@Division_Agent_]

MDR has a great muzzle break port test while eliminating human errors. By you having your hand on top raise questions about accuracy of the test. Even if you're it from flipping it still adds human error.

[@dannydyer9961]

I know a few guys that really love their EC Tuner Brake. More than one said it turned a 1" MOA rifle to a 1/4"MOA rifle

[@TAudisio]

I like the test and data! My only concern or question is the weight you are putting on the rifle with you offhand. Was it there so the rifle didn’t fall over? I would assume the more weight you push down the more friction on the front bag so the less push rearward it would be. Just a finger on the trigger would remove the possibility of human error in my head. Again, only you know what weight was put on it. Thank you for the information and testing though!!!

[@unglued94ta]

My guess on the increased recoil time is from backpressure. I'd like to see if there is any increase or decrease to average velocity at the muzzle from the different breaks. Would also love to see how the widely trusted budget VG6 brand works compared to the others.

[@Bladedancer13]

This sounds like an awesome series that I would love to watch because I'm a numbers nerd.

[@leonhart2452]

In your vids of the shooting you were holding the rifle by the scope. How much does changing your grip on the scope, downward pressure or pressure pushing the butt of the stock against the stop vs no pressure or pressure away from the stop. Would there be some mechanical way to hold the rifle with more consistently. We all know holding a rifle firmly against the shoulder vs loosely effects how the recoil feels. With a mechanical holding devise you could adjust the firmness of the rifle and against the stop to see how much that effects the readings. Perhaps this gives you a bit more to think about on testing procedures.

[@gregorysmith-ko6fm]

Awesome information. Would like to see APA brakes in the lineup.

[@05Dmax_LLY]

Great data collection and analysis of various brakes. Really good to show how much actually goes into selecting components for your system and how they affect the whole system differently. I'd be interested in comparing brakes to suppressors in this fashion.

[@Kbaker45862]

Awesome video if you do a follow up video. Make sure to test both the area 419 hellfire match and the sidewinder. With how well the normal hellfire preformed I would love to see how those ones do. Keep up the awesome videos thanks.

[@The340king]

The air inside the barrel before the shot provide pre-bullet braking which accounts for the offset in the peak from the bare muzzle. I was thinking that you should look at reduction of impulse rather than total impulse. It might be enlightening. I realize the result order won’t change, but showing the amount of reduction might be helpful when looking at a higher recoil rig.

[@jeffwilliamson5153]

Thanks for the great video, but you have a mix of standard and high efficiency brakes in the same test. We would love to see a shootout test of high efficiency brakes like the Hypertap, Hellfire Match, APA Gen3 and Apollo Max. The Apollo looks like it was run upside down? The comp ports are on the bottom. Trigger pull and downward scope forces will also affect the data. I love your videos, and I watch almost everyone of them.

[@owned323]

I would love to see you put the Apollo brakes, EC tuner brake, and the hell fire brake against the sidewinder, the TMB Tuner brake, the fat and lil Bastard brakes, and hellfire Match brakes. Essentially all of the best brakes in PRS. Maybe even a 419 Maverick?

[@Drakehilt]

You should throw in the browning recoil hawg. My bergara b14 SP in 308 came with the omni brake and still had more recoil than i would like. Switched it with the recoil hawg and it felt like it cut the recoil nearly in half from the omni brake

[@randytrudeau952]

Did you experience any accuracy issues with the Omni break? I read that there may have been some problems with the manufacturing of that break, but I didn't experience that with my Bergara HMR Wilderness 6.5 CM. I bought mine in January 2021.

[@Drakehilt]

@@randytrudeau952 not particularly with the brake but i changed it out after a couple of shots, before i had even finished zeroing

[@knieban]

I have the Apollo on my AR10 in 308 and that thing is LOUD! I ended up switching to a Browning Recoil Hawg instead; works fine and is much lighter/smaller. I have the Hellfire Match on my 20" 300wsm Tikka and I've been pretty impressed with it! Doesn't seem like it throws much gas/sound back as much as the brakes I have on my AR.

[@jaclynlandry7327]

How about comparing a 30 cal brake on a 6.5 (or some other small caliber) vs. a brake designed for 6.5?

[@pilot4them2010]

Look into a shock sensor used on automotive race cars. We use them to measure suspension travel for suspension tuning. They can be mounted to the stock and test bench to measure barrel lift. I’m not sure on how fast they measure movement, but we have also used them as a throttle position sensor as well with no issues. Great video and info.

[@guardianminifarm8005]

WOW! I don't know if I completely understand all of this to the degree you do. But it is fascinating! Ultimately, we see on the charts what the shoulder would feel. That would likely translate into enabling the shooter to observe impacts & possible trail of bullet. Great job. Good data. I am liking the EC Tuner. This gives me usable information to help make the decision. Thanks.

[@danbromley7860]

for the compensator test you could always create a second recoil rig to sit atop the barrel to measure barrel rise force and compare in the same way as you have done for recoil ? you are not measuring or comparing accuracy so you don't need to worry about barrel harmonics just force. would be very interesting to see.

[@paolotarable9572]

Awesome video, as an engineer i found very valuable a video with actual data instead of feelings. About the theory that the peaks are related to the natural frequency it would be very interesting to see the differences changing the tuning of the myzzle

[@ChadArch-z6v]

Gavin, I am glad someone put some real accurate data to the brake test. I am also an engineer that works on taking force measurements at very high speeds(300ks/s). There are several little things you could do to get the purest readings but most of them are just noise due to the high forces you are measuring. I am surprised at how high they are. As for muzzle rise, you could use a high speed camera but then you will need compare it to some measuring device. An easier way would be to use a linear or axial encoder mounted on pivots. You would also be able to correlate the muzzle rise with the recoil force and the time off of target. Keep up the good work.

[@bruceinoz8002]

Good that you mentioned NOISE "dispersion". The critical arc is 90 degree either side and around to the REAR.. Re-directed blast to the firer and adjacent shooters / bystanders, is an important factor in hearing safety and general "comfort" on the range and in the field.

[@chrisb9478]

I have a Ruger American GoWild .30-06. I was surprised how well the stock radial muzzle brake works.

[@RigSMP100]

I am a fan finally a real engineer approach to measurement here super clear presentation graphics and method. Normalize the trigger pole is the only improvement I see here but keep going you’re onto something as a Gungineer

[@reidpulley2473]

I’m watching your vid right now and I’m totally nerding out! Love it! Excellent job with the data analysis, I’ve done very similar work for a different application. Also I just purchased the Apollo Max to go on a Sig Cross in 308. I’m glad it isn’t just marketing and the data checks out.

[@blantant]

Awesome presentation of the data!

[@mwp597]

Powder charge and burn rate along with and bullet, length and weight will effect barrel pressure even primer chose can effect pressure. Muzzle brakes are the mechanical aspect of recoil reduction. Grate topic! Finally someone come up a way to actually measure recoil and brake it down.

[@saturnsolstice9008]

Dude tested the Apollos upside down😭

[@tomwaits4205]

Just goes to show how good they are. They are the only brakes I use.

[@rcg3496]

Why are you keeping your non trigger hand on the scope/rifle as you pull the trigger?

[@jonathanrogers9961]

This has a TON of potential. really cool stuff. Thank you and looking forward to see where this goes.

[@lukehill6341]

Would love to see the APW Raptor brakes tested like this. Have heard some great things about them.

[@paulthelefty]

You should also investigate the “holy shit” factor… when I am next to you on a firing line and that recoil blast-back makes me say “Holy shit! Is that a Bazooka?”

[@DMOUA_OUTDOORS]

Great experiment. Your test proved my theory correct about the EC tuner brake. I noticed more recoil when I switched out my APA Little Bastard Gen 2 for it on a 9lb 300 WSM. Your test showed it was mediocre when it came to reducing recoil.

[@travisbonnett491]

Keep up the great work! I enjoy looking at the data so a guy can figure out how much felt recoil can be reduced. Keep doing what your doing, don't listen to the trolls on here, 98% probably don't have a firearm, the other 2% MIGHT have one and know how to shoot it.

[@ronl384]

Great review Gavin-the science doesn't lie !

[@conservativesniperhunter7439]

Awesome experiment Gavin. Man I would love to see someone film barrel whip in super slow motion ( like Myth Busters did of a 338 Lapua Magnum ) and shoot groups at the same time so we can see the bullets leaving the muzzle at a different point during barrel whip to see the end results on targets at various ranges . I cannot think of a better person than Gavin to make this happen.

[@watlinsd]

Can check muzzle rise with an eddy current sensor.

[@watlinsd]

You didn’t even say what I won. You need to work on your scam game

[@kevinwood7358]

Hi Gavin, I really enjoyed this test and seeing the results grafted. I was also a little surprised by those results because I assumed other breaks would out preform the Apollo breaks. Quite a surprise. It would be interesting to run a decibel test from behind the rifle at the time of running other tests on the breaks. The noise levels and overall break efficiency together would be fruitful in deciding what break to purchase. Really great job Gavin.

[@thelittledetailscr7231]

The super beast series from muzzlebreaksandmore are the best out there. The latter has testing on his channel showing better performance than the apallo's.

[@hakuuna_matata]

Question, did you only fire once per muzzle brake?

[@Regu1arGuy]

Just picked up the Apollo Max for the 5.56. Very interested in seeing how it does in that Caliber. Sound suppression for the devices is near nonexistent so I’d love to see that tested if possible. Very data driven great info, good stuff!

[@OC_Lofton]

I would like to see the results of these same 30 Cal brakes on 7mm & 6.5 calibers of your choice. I'd like to see if the same rankings carry over to smaller diameter projectiles.

[@josephgrant2580]

You should do a test with Triarc structured barrels! The barrels are designed to lower harmonics.

[@kskehoe3132]

@gavintoobe aren’t you skewing the results by holding the scope when you’re firing?

[@Ultimatereloader]

The instrument is so sensitive you can actually see that, but it's only a 5-6 lb force, and it was consistent pre-load on all tests +/- about 1lb. Good thoughts!

[@kskehoe3132]

@@Ultimatereloader haha I figured with your typical attention to detail that it wasn’t an accident. But was still curious. Thanks for the response!

[@kalindanley2843]

laptop said 79 Degrees and I became jealous. If only I could go outside to shoot in anything less than 100 degrees. Great work Gavin.

[@leavethelandalone835]

Just got a new Tikka T3x 308 and was going to purchase the Precision armament but I’m really interested in the Apollo. My old shoulder is not really liking my 300 win mag after 35 years of shooting one. Great video!

[@WHOTEEWHO]

Wow I have one of those apollos

[@Area51-t5n]

Thanks for the info Gavin ! I just ordered the Apollo Max based on your findings and other reviews from people in the PRS comp community for my new Savage 110 precision elite 300 prc rifle. I will let you know how I like it after I get it on the range. Dana

[@Darkice77]

Apollo Max it is. Thanks for the content. Its really helping me pick my parts.

[@GrizzlyDude]

I would like an accuracy test between them. See the comparison of bore gap size to accuracy. I have been told the tighter the bore, the more gas extraction the brake can strip from the bullet. That would have the potential to more consistent groupings. Also I would like to see how muzzle breaks and a compensator affects the barrel harmonics.

[@combatflipflopsgriff8343]

As an engineer, thank you for all of the effort to put this together.

[@NOorah-oj8gt]

Good video 👍 You missed by not including the JP eliminator, the flattest shooting of them all. Recoil elimination is great but but flat recoil is King for helping out when you're out of an ideal shooting position.

[@gregoryreynolds9412]

My immediate theory as to why the brakes with the higher clearance performed better is based off of fluid mechanic principals. For example you get better flow with a gradual 90 degree turn than you do with an abrupt 90. So giving some clearance simulates a gradual shift. That paired with the 4 port design would makes sense why they performed so well. Would like to see this test done with hand loads to have a more consistent charge to compare. Might be negligible but would still be interested in seeing those results.

[@daltonwinchenbach7982]

@UltimateReloader I've always noticed somehow a not only a dampened recoil but a less sharp or longer recoil sequence when shooting with a break. Just now watching this and seeing the data points graphed a light bulb went off. I have a very confident answer as to why the recoil impulse would last longer. Muzzle device void the bullet fires and very simply you get your recoil as fast and hard as it can be given to you. That's barely covering it but I want to save character's for the answer. The reason is this: In testing, the only gasses considered is that from the base of the bullet back, but there's a whole barrel full of gas in the form of atmosphere. That bullet absolutely must pressurize and push the air that is ahead of the bullet in the barrel. So if that pressurized air flows through the barrel why would it not flow with the same properties as the gas behind the bullet? You are elongating the recoil sequence because the air in front of the bullet gets pressurized and flows through that break at the instant of firing. In other words the break isn't waiting to work until the combustion gasses pass through it. You are in fact working that break first and foremost by the air ahead of the bullet being pushed out the barrel. Meaning that you are getting simultaneous force in both directions on the same axis which is slowing the recoil down. I don't have any means to test this but I do have a theoretical way to test this. It requires smoke and super slow motion. Smoke the bore and super slow motion record the firing of the rifle so you can see what happens to the air that's ahead of the accelerating projectile. The camera angle would likely have to be a top down view. This would be an awesome video to collab with the slo-mo guys.

[@brandon152lee]

Great, informative video…I’d love to see the surefire muzzle break included if possible.

[@bob_mosavo]

Yes, I would like to see sound pressure level at the shooter's position versus how much recoil is reduced.

[@shawngrays9087]

Applo lr, installed last week, on a LR-308 Felt like a 22lr at my shoulder, able to keep on target

[@patrickcasper7487]

I think conaervation of momentum explains the shift in the force curve. Momentum = mass x velocity = impulse = force x time. The cartridge has a fixed momentum when shot, so as the force is reduced by each brake, the time is lengthened out to conserve the momentum. Just my initial 2 cent thought...

[@claywynn4507]

Diff. between brake and no brake, you have changed the spring / mass system by adding more mass (mass of brake) so the dynamics of the mechanism is retuned. No way you can avoid that except to remove mass somewhere else. You could put an adjustable mass on the stock somewhere so you can subtract the mass of the rig to equate added brake mass.

[@c.raynor7723]

would love to see the APA brakes and the TMB from Strike without Warning as well

[@TMS5100]

apa brakes are by far the most popular among professional competition shooters, it's very strange to see them omitted from this test.

[@InfamousTactical]

Would love to see you do a recoil impulse / time comparison with a suppressor vs a brake. Everyone knows that a suppressor elongates the recoil time but I don’t think there’s any numbers involved. We have been discussing this in my PRS group chat and talking about how the longer recoil impulse makes seeing impacts/splash harder

[@benjaminleatham1587]

Love to see you review the "hawg" brake from browning. CLAIMED up to 75% reduction

[@Flipout4Chris]

I’d love to see the Ultra Dyne Apollo Max vs the Unrivaled Muzzle Brake on a 556 platform. The Unrivaled was designed by two competitors and I’m curious tuning it can affect the results.

[@farmerwayne1404]

Gavin, I would think that the first bare muzzle came out highest and with shortest time frame, would be because there is absolutely nothing restricting the gasses moving forward and no restriction to the gasses due to air deflection surrounding the air around the muzzle. It would be interesting to do a smoke test in ultra slow mo, to see how the air dynamics are surrounding the muzzle.

[@JohnSmith-bf1sq]

Not a question, just an anecdote. But an Apollo Max on a 11.5 will clear a firing line very quickly. And in an indoor range you get removed.

[@lorddestructive]

i would love to see the difference in all those brakes when you use them on a really slow .30 cal round. just to see the difference and if any design shines in that area and just to see the reduction differences compared to the PRC

[@YoteHunter50276]

Thanks for the video / information. Very interested in the "muzzle rise" follow-up test....

[@chrisstaudt1843]

Hey Gavin, I am curious about the percentage of recoil reduction given the exact same ammunition, brake, and rifle, except for the weight of said rifle. Your MDT chassis based 300 PRC would be perfect. Test it at max weight then start taking weights off and retesting. Since the forward forces generated by the brake would remain the same, but the mass of the rifle was decreased, how would that change the peak forces as well as one impulse? Long way of asking does a light rifle recoil much more than a heavy rifle with the same brake…

[@touchgo7281]

Absolutely!!!! I would love to see this as well..... I think the brake would be easier to pull a light rifle forward.. But then the larger mass rifle would be harder to push rearward.... Would be interesting for sure...

[@stevendombrosky5184]

@@touchgo7281 It's linear... there are recoil calculators for rifle weight.

[@KBrissette]

I found with the same 300prc Hornady ammunition couple years ago on a chronograph there was an ES of 200fps (was same over a few boxes, different lots). Would be interesting doing this on a consistent handload over a few rds per break. Additional, i wonder if that frequency would change while adjusting the EC Tunner.

[@rgelife3768]

I would be very interested to see you run the Browning Recoil Hawg through this test. They claim up to 77% reduction depending on caliber and configuration. I am absolutely fascinated to know how accurate that claim is. Thank you for all the outstanding data you provide. 👍

[@christopherlockman2764]

Any luck with finding more results on the hawg? I am also interested in learning more about the recoil hawg!

[@charlesrhea6810]

Great video, there will be a lot of interest on this subject. I would be interested in seeing the difference in the recoil reduction in the Thunderbeast Compact brake and the TB brake with the TB suppressor attached. Also it would be interesting to see the Area 419 brakes with 4,6,and 8 ports since it appears that the port design is the same but the number of ports are the difference in the three. Thank you for another most interesting video.😎👍🇺🇸✝️

[@letsgo4629]

The fluctuations you see, that you speculate could be harmonics, could possibly be the rubber butt pad. It would be interesting to see the results with and without the rubber butt pad in place.

[@kyleorcasitas9638]

So not sure if anyone has brought the up but the Apollo muzzle brakes you had the parts facing down which would also add do the rise of the barrel when fired wouldn't you want them pointing up to help counteract the natural muzzle climb instead of assisting with it? Did you test them up and down or just down?

[@aztecsec]

Someone did a comparison of about 30 brakes using a simple sled/ruler device. The Apollo won that too. So I put those on all my rifles. No regrets. Nice to see confirmation. Thank you.

[@ttonAb2]

I would love to see the M11, MDT comp, hypertap, and JP large profile compensator added to this, especially for the sound comparison!

[@donbenson5292]

Thanks so much Gavin. You do the same type analysis of "things" I do. Was considering building a pressure tester or find an already made one. I too an a jack of all trades and master of a few. I was a systems engineer. Knew how to program but diagnosed when something went wrong be it hardware circuit failure, microde/machine code, OS or application. IBMer... lol I like the real world approach you do. Once again thanks. I just bought a brake not one you reviewed but will be doing some testing. I just measured the TOTAL clearance on mine and it is .034. That is .017 actual side to side clearance. ALSO I would like see what effect an A2 flash hider would have on muzzle rise if any.

[@scottoneil6795]

Thanks for this content; 'very usable information! Just a heads-up: your Elapsed Time graph (~9:10 time stamp) is missing the Hellfire brake. I'm guessing it was just an oversight, which could be easy to fix. 'Hope this helps.

[@adama1294]

The different bullet weight on recoil sounds great. 300 BLK has a huge range of bullet weights.

[@ryanashby3640]

interesting to see some suppressor mounting brakes, unsuppressed and suppressed differences with this rig.

[@kyberquest1104]

I agree a trigger pull rig, maybe with hydraulics or something to pull the trigger can help take out an extra small variable.

[@aleccrombie7923]

My go to trusted review site. Thank you!

[@andrewhahn1476]

WRT measuring muzzle rise, I think that being able to keep the scope on target and still to observe impact location is key. Using a Trigger Cam should be able to show this. You could do both offhand and bipod. Also, if bipod, how much dust is kicked up?

[@cornbreadburgess1950]

Thanks for the sharing enjoyed it,see you on the next one.👍

[@w740lp8]

I would love to see you test the Ryan Peirce 5 port muscle brake. I have one and absolutely love it.

[@danielgloversnp]

You mentioned the frequency of the rifle, I wonder if the mdt rubber plugs for the stock would change the frequency on the graph, or different stock material, aluminum vs carbon fiber vs rubber if that would change the feeling.

[@TTP719]

For the 22 cal Muzzle Break shootout see if you can get your hands on a Dynamic Resistance Break. This is by far the best Break for 5.56. It is a small 2 port Break that works incredibly incredibly well. They are hard to find because they are so effective. If you can't find one reach out and I will loan you one of mine for the test.