30 days of S110V wrap up, use and discussion. With some chopping and apex side loading, did it last?

Conclusion of the 30 days of S110V use. How it did, what it cut and some more extreme things that it's not designed for. Let me know how your experience with S110V has been.
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[@atyler011]

Glad to see some positive stuff on S110V with proof to back it up.

[@right8630]

Such a pretty knife when I get my first para that’s the one for me.

[@NeevesKnives]

I havent had the experience with 110v but i like to get to see what i can expect, as much as its worth watching on videos and hearing other experiences. I freehand sharpen and im not scared what so ever and one of these days i will get the chance, hopefully sooner than later, thanks for recording all that you have for the community.

[@Outpost_76]

You're welcome, shoot me an email. Mine is in the description.

[@TinyIslandMaine]

Your commitment to testing always amazes me! Thanks.

[@Outpost_76]

You're welcome and thank you.

[@inthepocket7405]

Dude... this was amazing. I commend you greatly for keeping track of all this, and and carry one knife for that long in general. I’m going to watch this again for sure! You and Ageis had me rolling. I loved watching you chop into that branch and twisting:) I did some stuff like that with mine too, and had no real issues. That steel performed way better than I thought it would against the staples and rock in the toughness test. Great video bud:) I finally got to watch it

[@Outpost_76]

Definitely surprised me, I did get a ZDP Endura today so until June 1st it's my use for all knife. Cant chop with this one though, it's a loaner.

[@paul_schuette]

Great video! I love the idea of long term testing like this. Also, the look on your dog's face when you took the cardboard strips away from his was hilarious!

[@Outpost_76]

He is funny, he definitely would have eaten that cardboard.

[@BigRedEDC]

While I have little experience with super steels, it would appear that hype does not always live up to reality! Thanks for all the awesome information you are providing the community!

[@Outpost_76]

You're welcome JB, all steels have an application. S110V isnt a bad one, just better for certain things.

[@jasonmorvay23]

Great testing provided! I subbed just for your real world testing keep up the good work! I have a para 3 in maxamet on the way. It's my first spyderco.

[@Outpost_76]

Thank you, I appreciate it.

[@Mrplacedcookie]

S110V has and serving me well (PM2)

[@tonyhoodlass1846]

I've began collecting spydercos again after selling up, just got this knife this morning I opened the box and spyder flicked it first time, brilliant

[@newhuskytwenty]

I love your cardboard quality inspector

[@Outpost_76]

When I break the cardboard down to testing size he sits and watches the whole time.

[@BBBYpsi]

I have a Spyderco Blurple millatary S110V G10 handle. I love it. It keeps it's edge extremely well. It is my EDC. The other two I have I really love are the Bench Made Mini Griptilian D2 steel & the Knives of Alaska Feather light with D2 steel. I have no problem sharpening any of them. I have a Gen 3 Wicked edge with stones from 80 grit to 3000 grit plus ceramics, lapping film & different microns for leather strops. But for these knives I usually do not go more than 1500 Grit with the ceramic at 17 Degrees bevel each side. My next knife steel I want to try is the 3V steel.

[@FearNoSteel]

This steel is capable of going to 65rc. For custom knives I feel like that's where it needs to be. The Spyderco has to appease production cost and bad users. It's not the most stable steel but I will use it for guys that really want stainless and can handle their shit with proper use and sharpening. I like it for the aggression for a thin slicer blade for hunters that like a low grit bitey edge with carbide reinforced teeth. I would not use for razor/push cut applications.

[@bp-hx9ts]

Big Brown Bear I believe these are at 62 to 63 hrc pretty decent

[@bele28]

I like your take on it. What edge do you prefer on d2?

[@FearNoSteel]

@@bp-hx9ts docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OepNr_D4lqbdTFqdqWl1rmAd4bOzPzJe6J0iEWrdJGU/htmlview

[@bp-hx9ts]

Big Brown Bear huh could have sworn ltk had his tested at 62 or 63 idk

[@Outpost_76]

I agree, this works so much better slicing than doing any push cuts. It's funny how fast your brain adjusts to something different, just a couple days and I would automatically use S110V in a slicing motion for everything. While I dont mind it, definitely not close to my favorite.

[@ShortcutReviews]

Nice. Great long term usage report. I would love to see a compare between the Manix and PM2 and what over time you did not like about the PM2. I love my Delica, but then again I’m a fan boy, looking forward to what you find.

[@Outpost_76]

That's a good idea, I can definitely do a Manix vs PM2. I do like the Delica but it took a turn.

[@Keith_the_knife_freak]

Nice work. !!

[@Outpost_76]

Thanks

[@timbo4374]

Spyderco does a pretty good factory edge. I have never felt the need to sharpen one right away, but I do strop them just to tweak it a bit. I am like you, I prefer the Manix over the PM2. This was an interesting test. I have no experience with the S110 so it was good to see. I've been wanting to check out the ZDP myself, but I really don't want a Delica, since I have a Chaparral to fill that size blade slot, so I'm thinking of getting a Stretch in ZDP to try it out. Thanks for another great informative test! These type tests really show us what a steel is capable of, so we can make better informed choices when shopping for a new knife, and separate the hype from the reality.. I really appreciate all you do for the knife community!

[@Outpost_76]

You're welcome, S90V would be a better choice than trying S110V imo.

[@davemartel9572]

@@Outpost_76 So you haven't been converted my brother. That's such a relief to hear about your position on S90V!!

[@manifestgtr]

I don’t understand the “s110v is difficult to sharpen” rap. I actually dislike sharpening s30v *more* than s110v. S110v gets a ridiculously aggressive edge at 8 microns, no questions asked…and that’s all I’m looking for. It’s probably the main reason I enjoy sharpening tool steels most of all. By the time you’re at 16 or 8 microns, Cruwear and M4 are shaving on contact, with no coercion…assuming everything has gone according to plan.

[@nickallen8333]

This has been my experience with s110 too. Starting to think a lot of the negative stuff is coming from people who don’t know how to sharpen and properly deburr. I found it’s not too much harder to difficult than s30 like he said you have to pay attention to how you finish it. No chipping from regular use either so idk.

[@BigBellyEd]

I sharpened my Spyderco UKPK S110V and it was surprisingly easy. In 5 minutes, with diamond absasive though.

[@nickallen8333]

@@BigBellyEd yup I use DMT plates and a total reprofile from the factory edge down to 15 DPS took just over an hour and it’s scary sharp. For EDC I think S110V is one of the best steels out there.

[@dombond6515]

I like s110v when u actually use it it's great. I would definitely prefer this over any m390!

[@Outpost_76]

Properly heat treated M390 I would take over S110V but most production M390 isn't close to being optimized.

[@dombond6515]

@@Outpost_76 I dont think I've ever had optimal ht m390. Which production knife do u reccomend. Because after I figured out how to sharpen s110v I never looked back.

[@coherence_x54r]

I woke up this morning with a note on my KME Precision. It read; Buy a blurple Paramilitary 2 in S110V, you know you miss your S30V PM2.

[@Outpost_76]

Perfect

[@81ghale]

My m390 Delica is one of my favorite knives and it has no business being that with the money I have in too many of my knives 😂. But that knife is just great. It carries great. It feels great in my hand. It cuts really great with the thin blade, and their m390 hold a working edge (for me at least) FOREVER. I sharpened it to shaving but a little toothy probably 2 years ago. I carry a lot of stuff, but when I get to it I usually keep it for a few weeks as daily carry because I fall for it again. Great knives when you get the upgraded steels. I’m not a big fan of vg10.

[@Laurarium]

My Manix 2 S110V has broken its tip 3 times and currently has 5 chips along the edge.

[@felixf5211]

I have a Manix 2 in S110V. The single sharpest factory edge I'd come across. No problems with the steel. Granted, I don't use it to chop wood. Better tools for that. Nor do I abuse it by asking it to perform in a manner that it was never meant to. Again, better tools for that, too. Would have preferred a different lock, but that's another story.

[@Outpost_76]

This whole S110V video was to show that its not some brittle steel it was talked up to be. I gave this knife to a good friend and he still uses it to this day. I still stand by S90V for me makes S110V obsolete.

[@bele28]

Maybe put the same edge on all you carry so its easier to figure out the steel differences eliminating edge differences as a unecesarry variable. And dont forget sanrenmu 12c27! :D

[@Outpost_76]

I test with all the same edge finishes unless noted in a particular video.

[@marekmasar5216]

You should do edge retention test..

[@ummzify]

I just got the native 5 lw in s110v becuase i love how it looks and feels, did i make a mistake going with this? I dont mind learning how to sharpen and will mostly be using it for daily tasks like boxes and tape. its my first knife im really new to the knife world

[@sonofliberty78]

Just don’t use it to stab/twist into harder materials, (like wood), and it’ll be fine. That said, if toughness and ease of sharpening are more important to you than high corrosion resistance, (while maintaining high edge retention); you should consider getting a Native5 LW in M4 steel instead. Blade HQ has those on sale right now, (BHQ exclusive version with black M4 and “mint” green FRN), for ~$120, which is a pretty good value, imo.

[@theprofiler8531]

I was so disappointed with the 110 in my Mannix. The blade chipped to easily. I had to work them out with an edge pro which was not difficult. I will avoid the 110 and 90 until I see if the mannix continues to chip.

[@sabelfechter7136]

Did you resharpened a few times to get rid of the burned edge? Im about to buy a UKPK, and its only available in BD1N and S110V, not my fav steels but it cant be that bad right? I intend it to replace my opinel, which takes to long to open and lock for my taste which makes me use it less, also the steel is too soft and rolls easy. Im not afraid of sharpening S110V at all, i have diamond plates and use a lower angle relief bevel with a 15 to 20dps (depending on steel and task) microbevel. So the volume of steel to take off for touchups is minimized. But im worried about chipping when i want to do some carving, i really dont need toughness, just a little edge stability during load. Did your edges improve? :/

[@sjdkfl]

I need a steel that will cut a bug in half when it walks on the blade.

[@armyofshea7941]

Thumbs up for the dog.

[@johobo2038]

He looked like “hey bro where you going with those treats???”😂😂😂

[@Outpost_76]

He would eat every one of them too, lol.

[@jaystrongbow9435]

Your dog is hilarious ...... nosey. You answered my question in the beginning. S110v or s90v, I was curious and was gonna ask, but you beat me to it !!

[@Outpost_76]

I prefer S90V, It has more versatility for me than S110V. Ageis is a funny dog, always up in whatever I'm doing.

[@phillipnunya6793]

I've been using a Cold Steel Code 4 with XHP as my only pocket knife for about four years. I recently got a Native 5 in S110V to use while I learn to sharpen well and wait for the stuff I need to take it apart and do some maintenance. Still can't find replacement washers. I never got tired of it though. It just finally got a little too dull for me, started losing the blade centering because of the extra thin teflon washers, and had some minor spot rust.

[@GingrBreadMan]

i've had half an inch of the tip break off on me with my para 3 s110v prying vinyl....

[@barrylevitt1170]

Spyderco's factory edges are normally pretty good, please start with the factory edge first, but if you want to strop the edge first that is ok. Excellent video. Thanks for your hard work and time to make this video. Have a great day.

[@Outpost_76]

You're welcome, ZDP took a turn. The video will be up soon.

[@akhoundog907]

I wish my s110v pm2 was this durable. I used to use it on large boxes daily, i started with 15 degrees on the wicked edge, tons of micro crips that can't be seen easily only felt with my nail after a few boxes. Im up to 18 degrees now and it's chipping in a couple of spots in a days worth of work with the edge having not touched anything but cardboard. I still like it but i tend to use it less.

[@Outpost_76]

How many times has it been sharpened? It's going to take 3-5 edges to get past that. I've had the same happen with anything from 14c28n to K390 and Maxamet and after a few edges the issue goes away. You have to het past that overheated and fatigued steel to see how it really performs.

[@akhoundog907]

@@Outpost_76 its been reprofiled once and "touched up" about 4 times with 1600 stones and finished with a strop. I'll keep at it. Thanks!

[@sabelfechter7136]

Did it improve or not/or did you stopped using it?

[@mforrest1508]

I dropped a manic 2 in s110 and the blade snapped off. There was in imperfection in the spot it broke and Spyderco replaced it. I follow you on Instagram. There are pictures of it mforrest1508

[@josephanthony1277]

Cute dog is cute

[@souldigits_9545]

Yes good steel, just dont be prying hard with it

[@sonofliberty78]

S110V PM2’s are back in stock, (for ~$215), so I came here to learn about the steel used on this model. I don’t think I’ll buy one. I don’t want to deal with a chiptastic nightmare when it comes time to sharpen. M4, CRUWEAR, REX45, and similar steels are much more appealing to me. If I need higher corrosion resistance; I’ll be fine with S45VN, rather than S110V. Gibs me that BHQ M4 Manix2, btw! 😁 If they do another run of those; I’d buy one in an instant.

[@Outpost_76]

I have some new S110V videos coming and I'll talk about better opinions. S110V isn't difficult to sharpen I just see far better alternatives that get the same or better performance.

[@sonofliberty78]

@@Outpost_76 I researched S110V a little more, including its composition vs other higher-end steels. Afterward, I ended up putting a bluple PM2 on layaway. I think S110V’s composition makes M390’s look lazy and inferior, at least on paper. The heat treat makes a huge difference, of course, and Spyderco usually does that very well. I’ll probably spring the PM2 out of knife jail in a couple weeks, and then I’ll see.

[@sonofliberty78]

@@Outpost_76 Got the S110V PM2 a week ago. Golden doesn’t always do the best assembly job, but this one was put together right. Blade is centered, (no play), and the action is great out of the box. It’s getting better as it breaks in, too. I sharpened the edge down to 17 deg per side with my new Work Sharp PA Elite, (diamond to 600 gr, then ceramic, finished with a strop), and I’m quite pleased with the knife. I think that when people complain that S110V is “chippy”, they’re misunderstanding its nature. It’s always going to have a tendency toward a toothy edge, because of its ridiculously high carbide content. You can see how many more it has vs something like M4, just by looking at the 2 steels, side by side. It’s kinda like chunky peanut butter, vs creamy. 😁

[@johnnyventurino8947]

What do you mean by saying a nice crisp Apex. Im trying to learn sharpening skills and im new at it. I have the same Spyderco as the one in this video. Thank you sir and il wait for your answser.

[@Outpost_76]

Letting your stones do the work and not using much pressure will give you a crisp apex. By that I mean nice and even with a small burr. I have a newer video going through the process of sharpening a ZT as well as one doing Maxamet. I'm going to do another KME video and I'll explain more in detail what I'm doing and what I've learned over thousands of knives sharpened.

[@johnnyventurino8947]

@@Outpost_76 Thank you very much.

[@johnnyventurino8947]

I like your dog hes cutd.

[@Outpost_76]

Thanks

[@mrronvent1122]

When you need a hatchet....

[@jimmycricket7946]

So is m4 you're preferred steel generally speaking?

[@Outpost_76]

No, K390 and Cruwear would be my 2 go to steels.

[@jimmycricket7946]

@@Outpost_76 yeah ok. Well to be honest the most premium steels I've ever worked with were s110v and the 20cv which is supposed to be similar to m390. The edge retention both are great but if I'm not mistaken the s110v seems to have a bit more of a bite then the 20cv. I'm debating whether or not i should pick up something in maxamet or cruwear, what do you think between those two?? I'm all about edge retention idc about corrosion I'm in the desert and if the steel is tough even better.... but edge retention is my primary concern.

[@Outpost_76]

@@jimmycricket7946 Maxamet is going to be very high on edge retention. It's not very tough but I've never had an issue with it not being tough enough. Cruwear will have good toughness, impact resistance and edge stability but it's going to have half tge edge retention of Maxamet. This is where K390 comes in for me. K390 has great edge stability, it's tougher than Maxamet but not close to Cruwear. It does however in the 65 to 66 rc range have edge retention much higher than Cruwear. K390 cut 90 feet less than Maxamet putting it as the second highest factory heat treated steel I've tested.

[@jimmycricket7946]

@@Outpost_76 I see.... well then, maybe I should try out the pm3 in k390 instead, thanks for the feedback and keep up the good work, you're field testing is very valuable information, it's data we can rely upon.

[@mforrest1508]

You think it’s better to sharpen? That has not been my experiance. Takes forever to apex it and I just can’t get as good an edge as other steels. Maybe now it would be different as my skills are always getting better and I have not sharpened any for about 2 years. But yeah. Not for the fright of heart... zdp like that for me as well

[@Outpost_76]

It's not as bad as it's made out to be. Even getting all that damage out took less than 20 minutes start to finish. ZDP-189 isnt bad either, S90V is even easier to apex. I understand not everyone is on the same skill level but you have to start somewhere. I jumped right in and got it right away. I've only been sharpening in large volume for a little over 2 years.

[@mforrest1508]

Outpost 76 for sure. The last 2 years I’ve got some really great cbn emulsions from ken Schwartz via Michael christy recommendation. It took it to another level. I tried sharpening zdp just a few weeks ago and it is definitely still a bitch 😂

[@zacpino3072]

I personally don’t believe this is what a pocket knife is made for but to each his own you don’t have a fixed blade you could do that with?

[@TinyIslandMaine]

Education pure and simple. He’s pushing it to the limits & testing edge retention so we don’t have to. This way we can all make informed decisions for purchase & expected use outcomes. Some may even say that to do this w/ a fixed blade is wrong and to maybe use a hatchet 😉

[@andrewread2966]

Why would you baton with a folding pocket knife!?

[@cp1532]

I have no interest in factory edge performance

[@Outpost_76]

Delica video coming very soon, it took a turn.

[@jerseyknifeguy6382]

Omg dude please enough with the testing....... Holly smokes!!!!!!

[@Outpost_76]

Straight up this is a testing channel first, I'll give some impressions of knives and steels from time to time. Otherwise expect lots more testing.

[@timbo4374]

Spyderco does a pretty good factory edge. I have never felt the need to sharpen one right away, but I do strop them just to tweak it a bit. I am like you, I prefer the Manix over the PM2. This was an interesting test. I have no experience with the S110 so it was good to see. I've been wanting to check out the ZDP myself, but I really don't want a Delica, since I have a Chaparral to fill that size blade slot, so I'm thinking of getting a Stretch in ZDP to try it out. Thanks for another great informative test! These type tests really show us what a steel is capable of, so we can make better informed choices when shopping for a new knife, and separate the hype from the reality.. I really appreciate all you do for the knife community!

[@Outpost_76]

Thank you, I did get a ZDP Endura loaner so I'm good now until June.

[@frederickj.7702]

@ Outpost 76... Let me register a 👌 as another person very, very interested in your ZDP-189 testing (ZDP Stretch owner, its capabilities not yet 'stretched'). Please stay the course past the little glitch: your efforts on behalf of the community are much appreciated!