A little while back I also looked at NES games that were also on Atari 2600. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a5-8i3uwnMqliLc
@omarvalderrama13142 жыл бұрын
I still love the nes some games the genesis had games with better color like they add more games
@skinnie28382 жыл бұрын
Propper = Football is football and soccer is soccer.
@sandy60 Жыл бұрын
Get videos man it's like taking me back to my childhood looking at these great games we grew up on playing out brains out daily
@netarchy Жыл бұрын
I gotta say, with all the games by RARE that you nailed here, I was surprised that Snake Rattle 'n' Roll wasn't in here. The Sega version was probably not well known but plays very nicely.
@AlanThompsonRegularNintendo2 жыл бұрын
Double Dribble and Micro Machines were on both NES and Genesis also. Love the videos! Happy new year!
@BagOfMagicFood Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, Micro Machines, and Fantastic Dizzy and Cosmic Spacehead were some other Codemasters classics that started on Nintendo but seemed to get the most fame on Megadrive... and no Atari ST ports for once!
@BagOfMagicFood Жыл бұрын
(I just checked, and some other Codemasters-published Amiga games I couldn't find on Atari ST include Crash Landing, The Quest of Agravain, Soccer Pinball, Super Skidmarks, and Brian Lara Cricket '96.)
@VirtualStrangers2 жыл бұрын
I had no idea that RC Pro AM had a Genesis version. It's one of my all time faves. I used to pop it in and veg out for days at a time. Classic.
@valley_robot2 жыл бұрын
One of my favourite games of all time
@buckeyechad12 жыл бұрын
I bought RC for Genesis just because the NES version looked so fun. Just never played it and was a big Super Sprint fan in arcade
@landeny652 жыл бұрын
I’m actually surprised that RC Pro Am isn’t ranked among the essential NES classics. Such a great game
@johnsimon8457 Жыл бұрын
Ditto - I thought RARE was exclusively a Nintendo studio. Tengen titles make sense, though, after the court decision.
@twentynine5846 Жыл бұрын
Did you ever beat the game?
@Invidente72 жыл бұрын
Battletoads is a great example as it was actually made easier than the NES version.
@matthewnikitas89052 жыл бұрын
Yes the Sega version is the better of the two
@MegaPadVM2 жыл бұрын
Too bad it’s missing cutscenes at the beginning and end of the game comparing to the nes
@swampdonkey49192 жыл бұрын
That's cool. It was a damn good game, just too difficult and too many cheap deaths. Like don't even try to play with two players, lol
@slavicus2046 Жыл бұрын
@@matthewnikitas8905 No, the NES game is much tighter than the Genesis one. This is coming from someone who grew up with the Genesis version.
@anonamus604 Жыл бұрын
Some of us like hard games
@The_Last_Ninja2 жыл бұрын
Your absolutely right about Arch Rivals being a precursor to the NBA Jam series of games. It probably could be called NBA Jam 0.5 as both games are actually made by Midway and you can definitely see the similarities between them. Great video by the way, I really enjoy your work!
@mattm77982 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I noticed the voice sample was straight up used by NBA Jam. Clearly NBAJ was far more polished, but the seeds were there.
@MotherKojiro2 жыл бұрын
The Genesis versions of Alien 3 and Battletoads & Double Dragon had such great soundtracks over their NES counterparts.
@alexojideagu2 жыл бұрын
Arcade Double Dragon has the best soundtrack
@francischambless5919 Жыл бұрын
Until you play the SNES version of Alien3 that was also 16bit and is leaps and bounds better than th 16bit Genesis in every way.
@JetBen555 Жыл бұрын
@@francischambless5919 same with Battletoads Double Dragon, the music is so much better in the SNES version + the graphic looks a lot better too
@JustinLeeper2 жыл бұрын
Hey, John. The omission that sticks out to me is MICRO MACHINES! Pretty sure it had a multitap *built into* the cartridge on Genesis!
@dustinnoneya32172 жыл бұрын
Mega Drive MICRO MACHINES *x Turbo Tournament 96
@BagOfMagicFood Жыл бұрын
John can only ignore Codemasters for so long!
@TheRmm19762 жыл бұрын
Tecmo Super Bowl was quite different for the NES vs SNES/Genesis. The 16 bit versions had later rosters (as they came out in 1993 as opposed to 1991 for the NES version). The graphics, sound, "cut scenes" among several other features were different as well. While the gameplay engine was very much the same just with updated graphics, most fans enjoyed the NES version the most due to the roster we all knew and loved and just something about the tight gameplay and 'x factor' of the NES version.
@LudiColorado2 жыл бұрын
To me the NES version feels more arcadey and chaotic, while the later versions attempted to be a slightly more realistic simulation of NFL football. Both versions are fun for their own reasons but NES TSB is a unique game and is still played in tournaments, while the other versions became outdated with the release of more advanced football games. You also just can’t beat having players like Bo Jackson and QB Eagles
@jorymil2 жыл бұрын
"Bandit Kings of Ancient Boredom?" I needed a good laugh--thank you!
@popculturehero2 жыл бұрын
Since John mentioned lemmings. It reminded me that Krusty's Super Funhouse was on both the Nes and Genesis. I prefer the genesis one. Very colorful puzzle solving game. With some platforming, I liked it for the time. Much easier early simpsons game to like than games like Bart vs the space mutants. I may have to track down Genesis Roadblasters, that looks sharp.
@JohnRiggs2 жыл бұрын
That's a good one.
@lcscape2 жыл бұрын
I’ve actually been able to beat the Battletoads genesis version without save states, still not an easy game but it’s less unforgiving. I’ve always like the improved visuals - great game on either console, been one of my favorites
@robintst2 жыл бұрын
Gotta go with the Genesis version of Ms. Pac-Man, that other mode with all those new mazes really freshen up the experience. Pirates! Gold and Rampart too, my buddy and I used to play those to death on SEGA Channel.
@bland9876 Жыл бұрын
I wish we could get more mazes for Pac-Man but whenever they ad mazes into things like Pac-Man world they aren't very good. At least Pac-Man adventures in time exists.
@esmerylan2 жыл бұрын
You're right about Battletoads for Genesis being handled by a different developer- the port was done by Arc System Works! This was probably because Rare was busy with so many different projects and also they pretty much specialized in NES games in the console space- as far as I can tell, they'd never developed a Genesis game themselves at this point.
@thejabberwalker2 жыл бұрын
My man. Putting out content you just don't see in same same KZbinville. Never had a clue that Pirates GOLD! was on the Genesis. But now, whenst I pay off the Xmas Amazon dent, I shall be rewarding myself with a purchase of that game. Thank you, Mr. John Riggs Here!
@scottg76602 жыл бұрын
Great video idea.
@ResidentRaccoon2 жыл бұрын
The Immortal for Genesis has to be one of the most badass box covers of all time
@pjw53282 жыл бұрын
Cool vid! I didn’t know about a lot of these cross-ports. A few others that made it to both systems that I haven’t seen anyone else mention yet: Ivan Stewart’s Super Off-Road, RBI Baseball 3, Smash TV, and Nobunaga’s Ambition (yet another KOEI game). The Miracle Piano Teaching System was also sold on both consoles, although I suppose that’s not really a “game.”
@MaxOakland Жыл бұрын
15:50 The Genesis/SNES version of Ms. Pac-Man is the BEST version of the game! It has several different level packs including the Strange levels that are really creative. You can even play as Ms & Mr Pac-Man on the screen at the same time and either work together or compete. It’s awesome
@buckeyechad12 жыл бұрын
My nostalgia with California Games is from the Commodore 64, even though I do have it for Genesis. Absolutely love this kind of video!
@hardkoregamer1981 Жыл бұрын
I was extremely addicted to certain game genres back then and marble madness was one of them which I have played and beaten every version released I could get my hands on to completion. I milked everything I could get out of every game and certain games had such a lasting impression and appeal on my young mind that I still enjoy replaying those games from time to time reliving those moments again with those games to this very day.
@renat17862 жыл бұрын
Great video. One difference of the NES version of Battletoads and Double Dragons is that in level 3-3, in the vertical shaft with falling debris, there is a nice music effect used, 'Shepard tone', which makes an illusion of infinite decreasing of the tone, which fits perfectly a dangerous descending on a rope. Sadly there is no such effect in Genesis/SNES version.
@ColonelNegative2 жыл бұрын
There are also two player co-op and competitive modes in Ms. Pac Man for Genesis (and SNES). That makes it a must-own imo - and it's only $5.
@GregsGameRoom2 жыл бұрын
The sound on Marble Madness for Genesis is absolute murder to the ears.
@JohnRiggs2 жыл бұрын
it sure was.
@ilikecurry23453 ай бұрын
Which would you rather play? Marble Madness JP, with good music and bad controls, or Marble Madness US, with bad music and good controls?
@BlackMoore822 жыл бұрын
When discussing the most difficult games Marble Madness doesn't get brought up nearly enough. Growing up it was one of the first games to make me swear at the television hah, other then Activision's Pitfall!
@Mikesthatguy2 жыл бұрын
Happy New Year John Riggs. Hope you and yours had a good Christmas. Can't wait for all the content coming in 2023.
@JohnRiggs2 жыл бұрын
same to you and more of it!
@luisoleiro1352 жыл бұрын
John you forgot at least Megaman 1,2 & 3 VS Megaman Willy Wars, Snake Rattle & Roll in both Systems, Jordan Vs Bird One on One...
@JohnRiggs2 жыл бұрын
ooh, Jordan vs. Bird... yeah, I knew I'd leave off a few.
@SteveBrandon2 жыл бұрын
MegaMan: The Wily Wars was the first game that came to mind for me, considering it was included on the first Genesis Mini. I know it's a compilation of the first three NES MegaMan games with some new levels but they're still essentially the same games as on NES.
@fusetitan Жыл бұрын
Stumbled upon this channel , Really dig it. Subscribed!
@NickEnlowe2 жыл бұрын
I never found the SNES and Genesis versions of Battletoads & DD: The Ultimate Team any fun, but once I played the NES version, suddenly it was fun! I don't quite get why, but the NES version cliqued with me in a way the 16-bit versions couldn't. One of my favorite things about the Genesis version of Rampart is that when you play in 2-player mode, the loser is stuck in a guillotine and you press the button to behead him. Great times! The SNES version has some neat mode-7 and super scaling going on, but to me the Genesis version is the most fun, has the most '90s 'tude, and is the most arcade-accurate.
@anonamatron2 жыл бұрын
Clicked, not cliqued
@coreybarnett21582 жыл бұрын
I always compared SNES to Genesis but it's interesting how there's also NES/Genesis overlap.
@mattm77982 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the TLDR there is if they are different games, then there's no consistent winner(even when the games have the same name like Aladdin) but when they are the same game, SNES usually wins simply because it had better graphics and better sound overall.
@UltimateGamerCC2 жыл бұрын
@@mattm7798 uaually yeah, Aladdin for example i prefer on the Genesis, though i also enjoy the other ports because they all offer something a little different, which is something i wish AAA gaming companies did more of.
@bobinforapples9112 жыл бұрын
John, next time you should do Genesis games on PS1! There are actually quite a few, plus it would be a good link in the chain, 2600 to NES to Genesis to PS1. Love the vids, happy new year!
@CarecaRetrogamer2 жыл бұрын
Hey, John! 25:50 best moment of the video, couldn't help but laugh outloud, man! Ty for that, as well as another great video! Cheers and HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!
@mikemoss60452 жыл бұрын
0:28 that's tecmo world cup. The actual tecmo cup genesis title was cancelled in the end.. but there is a rom of the game that exists. It plays slightly better than the nes version. Also the nes had a tecmo world cup.. also tecmo cup was a rebrand of a game called captain tsubasa, which is a whole franchise in itself.. there was a captain tsubasa title on the mega cd.. Fun stuff.
@jeffb.66422 жыл бұрын
how could you overlook the all time great masterpiece that was ACTION 52
@terrortone442 жыл бұрын
cool video with interesting insight, your content has improved a lot lately!
@Joe-dy1qv2 жыл бұрын
I freaking love your take on the classics thanks Mr Riggs!
@mikebirch69132 жыл бұрын
Pirates and Rampart on the Master System took up a lot of my time when younger- was great to see Rampart in your video.
@waltsoph32 жыл бұрын
YES Rampart was amazing on the NES. Unfortunately I never played the Genesis version. I did play the SNES version which is an INSANE port version of the game. Definitely played Championship Pro Am and I agree with you 100%. An amazing port version of the RC Pro Am Franchise. ( Could you imagine if they had Cobra Triangle or Wizards & Warriors was on the Genesis? 😯) Also Fun Fact Tyrone from Arch Rivals was on the animated show The Power Team. "Awwwwww Man." ( Season One of The Power Team was part of the show Video Power. Loved both growing up. ) Thanks as always JohnRiggs. I look forward to your other videos on video games that were on other video game systems.
@JohnRiggs2 жыл бұрын
Loved the SNES version with 'propaganda' so use their own cannons against them.
@danbauer36692 жыл бұрын
Heck yes, my friend. Gameplay is always more important than graphics. A game that looks amazing but is boring is an inferior game to one that looks like garbage but plays amazingly!
@andyfranklin5004 Жыл бұрын
Elementary school you never would've imagined being a ref in the precursor to NBA Jam, well done!
@Svankmajer2 жыл бұрын
Wow, the KOEI games... now thats a blast from the past. And why does everyone dislike the Bart games. I thought they were good.
@GreySectoid6 ай бұрын
Congrats on 200k, well deserved.
@JSCadarn2 жыл бұрын
I've spent many an hour with KOEI. Once you figure their games out you can lose track of time pretty quickly.
@rgfamgames2 жыл бұрын
Amen!
@rgfamgames2 жыл бұрын
God bless you, Mr. Riggs. Finally got some Koei games in one of your videos ;) Bravo, good sir! Wait....Romance of the Yawn Kingdoms???? You take that back! You take that back right now!!! Bandit Kings of Ancient Boredom???? Them are fightin' words!!!! How dare you!! Well....at least they made it in your videos. Love ya man! Happy New Year!!!
@Artemis-jq7sk2 жыл бұрын
A thing to not that the Japanese Mega Drive had different versions Klax and Marble Madness. The version of Klax that Japan got which was made by Namco just has a different graphical as gameplay remain the same but their version of Marble Madness being made in house by Tengen was more better than the western one by EA and even had support with the Sega Master System Track Ball and Mouse.
@JohnRiggs2 жыл бұрын
I'll have to check it out.
@zombee382 жыл бұрын
Great topic John...happy 2023 and remember kids Genesis still does after all these years !
@zkarekrow832 жыл бұрын
OMG! I never knew John Riggs was the referee in Arch Rivals!
@danielrhodes75942 жыл бұрын
I like the comparison for the two. Can you do a comparison for the SNES vs. Genesis? Were there many of the same games on both systems?
@joesshows67932 жыл бұрын
19:45 rampart is classic and fantastic
@JohnRiggs2 жыл бұрын
A friend clued me in on the Famicom version made by Konami, too. That has, like, a fun storyline and cute graphics. I should have included a quick shout-out to that version.
@GotTheBestLigma7 ай бұрын
My best friend and I used to play Rampart for hours! I always got a kick at the end with dude in the guillotine and you can blink his eyes and scream 😂
@McMullet942 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool! There's also stuff like MK3 which was on the ps1 , always loved how much of the spectrum that the genesis is Stretched too
@chikish Жыл бұрын
Talk about unlocking a memory. I rented 'Where In the World Is Carmen Sandiego?' for the SNES back when in 93 or 94. I had a bunch of encyclopedias with bookmarks all over them just laying around the living room for days until I beat the game 😂 I remember feeling so smart! I mean I was like 8 years old so it was a big deal to me haha. Good times.
@pigeonsil240sx Жыл бұрын
i just found your channel,i used to live in west richland in the tri cities in early 90s and fish the yakima river,its possable we seen each other
@DoctorSquirtle2 жыл бұрын
You compared two different Star Trek games. The NES one was the Advanced Holodeck Tutorial that came out also on the Game Gear and GameBoy and the Genesis one was Echoes of the Past and Future's Past on the SNES.
@openskiesmedia2 жыл бұрын
The Game Gear version is significantly enhanced from the NES with additional minigames and other content. It’s basically a 1.5 version of the game.
@dudecool320 Жыл бұрын
Just discovered your channel and I'm not disappointed.
@GNoMe6102 жыл бұрын
That Paperboy/podcast subscription joke was low-key funny as hell.
@hectormontalvo55652 жыл бұрын
Awesome video John! I hope you have a happy and prosperous New Year 2023 bro!🎉
@julianobitsgen2 жыл бұрын
3:33 Glad you pointed out that the referee in Arch Rivals isn't you, because otherwise I'd be completely fooled. BTW good vid.
@Djwunmoshen2 жыл бұрын
Best of the Best was called Andre Panza Kickboxing on Turbo Graphix 16. It was good
@thechonkahedron2 жыл бұрын
Micro Machines and Snake Rattle & Roll were on both. I haven't played the NES version of Lion King so I don't know how similar they are too.
@Kanovich_2 жыл бұрын
The first game that came to mind was "Krusty's Fun House" for both platforms. In Genesis was renamed as "Krusty's Super Fun House"
@JASpiring Жыл бұрын
SNES too, hence the Super.
@branscombe_2 жыл бұрын
i love the content Jon. happy new years 🎉
@A1Bold2 жыл бұрын
This isn’t me 3:33 😂 too funny! Great video
@matthewbarrios10282 жыл бұрын
I have uncharted waters for my Genesis CIB and I can testify to it being the most approachable Koei games of that era
@SECONDQUEST2 жыл бұрын
Ms. Pac-man on Genesis was my first pac man game. It was fantastic. Love that game.
@shanekelley30642 жыл бұрын
I also had a paper route at 12 years old, and saved up for my Sega Genesis! I can assume we're probably close, if not the same age lol.
@fernandocunhajr Жыл бұрын
I really miss Linus Spacehead's Cosmic Crusade on this list, for me the best adventure game for the NES and the Genesis version is exactly the same!
@mathieugoulet1220 Жыл бұрын
This is my favorite of all your videos!😊
@StevieBGoode Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure the sprite for the ref in Arch Rivals is modeled after you Riggs
@kellychristus24962 жыл бұрын
I still always come back to Pirates! on NES ❤️❤️❤️
@UltimateGamerCC2 жыл бұрын
Pirates! Gold Edition for me, i sank so many hours into it on Genesis, still a hoot whenever i want to play a Pirate themed game, the only one as good if not better is Assassin's Creed : Black Flag. nothing against the Monkey Island games, mind you.
@doctorhino87362 жыл бұрын
This brings back a lot of memories of envy for the Genesis as an NES kid.
@buckeyechad12 жыл бұрын
Your insight is incredible. Never dawned on me about Roadblasters being a pseudo sequel to Spyhunter. Played them both tons in the arcade. Spyhunter never felt right on the many platforms I played it on, from C-64 to PS2, cause of the arcade control stick being fantastic
@matthewstone53102 жыл бұрын
It wasn't until a few years back, on a "Simpsons" episode of "Game Sack," that I found out that there was a Genesis port of "The Simpsons: Bart vs. the Space Mutants." Plus, one port that's usually never talked about, and a lot of people probably don't even know about it, is "Battletoads" on the Game Boy.
@march98852 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing Holosseum/Time Traveler at that Red Robin in Yakima. Looked amazing.
@retroreplay832 жыл бұрын
Great comparisons John, Love both systems, Sega had the upper hand but the NES was a more favorite of mine.
@dmolesevich Жыл бұрын
Marble Madness lives rent free in my head. I could never figure that game out.
@seeer32402 жыл бұрын
Romance of the 3 Kingdoms is one of the best war strategy simulations ever, especially for its time on those platforms. It's like a pc computer game. It has menus and is easy to figure out. It's just more in depth as it should be. Your just a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Head; That's the max complexity level you can handle. Did you take the jab too?
@anonamatron2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure Arch Rivals IS NBA Jam. They just changed the punch to a hand wave, and of course added a bunch of cool dunks.
@ozzyager2 жыл бұрын
Oh man, I loved Roadblasters! It was at our local, now nonexistent grocery store.
@Trontasia2 жыл бұрын
Krusty's Fun House was all over the place; it was on many different systems. There's versions on: NES, SNES, Game Boy, Master System, Game Gear, Genesis, Amiga, & DOS. But seems like the best version out of all of them is the SNES version. As far as I've seen so far; haven't checked the Amiga version.
@JohnRiggs2 жыл бұрын
You're right! I should have included that. I knew I missed a few.
@Trontasia2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnRiggs It's ok, you could probably make a whole 'nother video about Krusty's Fun House alone, about all the versions of it on different systems.
@JesusTuber2 жыл бұрын
"Where the f... no, where in time is Carmen Sandiego?" LOL
@DonkeyPuncher19762 жыл бұрын
First time I have seen a retro gamer talk about Rampart. One of my favorite arcade games and a great 2 player game.
@JohnRiggs2 жыл бұрын
Have you seen the famicom version by Konami? I love the cute graphics (odd saying 'cute graphics' in a Rampart game)
@stevenwillard84362 жыл бұрын
LOL. The player selection in the Genesis’ Best of the Best will always make me laugh. It’s the goofiest.
@8-BitEric2 жыл бұрын
Happy new year dude
@Mystemo2 жыл бұрын
The Mega Drive version of Paper Boy has perhaps the most amazingly bad Swedish manual of all time. They actually legit translated "The Grim Reaper" to "The vicious rapist", I swear I'm not joking.
@TheLastLineLive Жыл бұрын
Fun fact about Lemmings, it was made by DMA Design, who would later bring us the GTA games and later change their name to Rockstar Games.
@mikechermok2 жыл бұрын
Happy New Year John
@Des_Zee2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I forgot all about road blasters.
@kevinmyles63695 ай бұрын
I grew up with Castlevania on the NES which is absolute videogame royalty yet the Genesis version (Chronicles) plays, looks, sounds absolutely great! A very good port! I was surprised, didn't expect. 😃👍🏻👍🏻
@maxpower83902 жыл бұрын
I recommend retrying uncharted waters , i grew up with it and once you understand the game it is a gem. I think the snes version is the best. The shoulder buttons to change direction 45' is so nice.
@TheLastLineLive Жыл бұрын
Uncharted Waters is great, it's pretty similar to the Pirates game John so I have a feeling you'd dig it. New Horizons especially, as that adds a ton of stuff including different playable characters with their own stories and objectives.
@bradmcgee40332 жыл бұрын
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Rampage also come out on the Sega Genesis?
@mjdf1222 жыл бұрын
Happy new year Riggs
@richardjackson46782 жыл бұрын
Happy New Year John, Honestly as much as I liked Carmen Sandiago. I never liked the Where in Time version. It seemed like I never had enough time, and all the villains got away.
@RetroRizer Жыл бұрын
California Games, the game i rented back in the day and couldn't figure out how to play. Then stuck with it all weekend. haha
@Eternally_Sardonic2 жыл бұрын
Uncharted Waters really aged badly; however, UW: New Horizons is still my favorite game of all time. Happy New Year!
@joshuajayne89262 жыл бұрын
I loved Lemmings on MS-DOS. My cousin and I grinded so many old PC games back in ze day and that one was addictive.
@mustangmckraken11502 жыл бұрын
The problem with the Waldo games that you never really seem to mention is the CBT wizard subway stage lol
@the_kombinator2 жыл бұрын
It's not a biodegradable whip - You owe me a glass of scotch. Also, you cleared out my sinuses.
@yousefslimani992 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video I really love SEGA Genesis and my favorite console of all time!!
@JohnRiggs2 жыл бұрын
I do love my SEGA
@SouthsideCardsBr2 жыл бұрын
Tecmo Bowl on the nes was my favorite game growing up. Played lots of Tecmo Bowl. 🙂