300 VS 300 | TBI VS TPI

Today we give you an update on our TBI 2024 300 XC-W 300 and compare it against a TPI 300 XC equivalent.
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[@Berm_Blaster]

Crazy how 2 stroke technology has evolved. Probably safe to say most of us thought two strokes were fead when the four strokes took over. Cool to see two strokes still being desired and liged.

[@ericgray8396]

Thanks for your thoughts on TDI vs TPI. It would be interesting to see a test between a 300 TBI and current generation of 350.

[@spencerclark2269]

Pretty cool comparison, I'd pick the TBI all day

[@richmondmaids]

I have zero issues with my tpi and it runs with out any issues. 2023 Gasgas ec250 that I had tuned by John @ Tpituning and it made it run better than I couldve asked for. Made adjustments to the tune to make it function so well by fixing issues I didnt know existed or things I could not even put into words. All of that for $250 too. I have a 2023 ktm 125xc that is TBI and it doesnt really run differently enough that I feel the need to sell my tpi to buy a tbi Just seems like its for the guys who buy the new Apple iphone every year🤷‍♂

[@Hyngyynj]

John’s tunes are amazing

[@donaldblank8873]

My 23 gas gas EC250 rips. No ECU needed. Only added a high compression s3 head, I'm very happy with this bike. My opinion KT m's best bike was 2022. Now they're going backwards.

[@3BrothersExtreme]

Great comparison! Both bikes are awesome!

[@MotoNish]

Great video! I have 2022 EC300 and love it but just picked a a new Hard Enduro KTM and just riding it under an hour the difference is amazing. How do you guys like the Cardo headsets off-road? I assume Edge or Packtalk?

[@outfitr9703]

I ride an 18 300xcw with rktek, rekluse, billetron, throttle tamer, it's so so good. It will rip or lug with power all day. Brother rides a 21 tpi, he loves it zero probs.

[@panic-revv85]

What do you think of motoxperts suspension in comparison to others? They are locals here, actually only live a few blocks away.

[@matbailey85]

What are you guys using to talk back and forth? Thx 🙏🏻

[@dirtbiketv1]

Cardo Systems. In helmet communication. It’s great and we have a discount code in our links or email us for further questions.

[@Superdisco199]

Found the 300xcw a but dissapointing motor wise, needs work as much as the TPi's did. The XC's seem to have more go between 4000-5000pm. The frame does feel overly stiff to me in comparison. The 2025 is likely to be modified like Billy Bolts. Having ridden a bit of all of them i'd prob pickup a runout 250Tpi with the flexy frame and throw a TBI relocation at it.

[@fattie2550]

YZ250FX is perfect for those trails.

[@codygrams]

I wouldn’t call that “tight” single track. 3rd-5th gear it looked like to me.

[@usualsuspectsfor1k]

That's tight for west coast, but east coast that's basically wide open.

[@codygrams]

@@usualsuspectsfor1k I’m on the west coast. Big difference between California and PNW though.

[@slidewide1999]

@@usualsuspectsfor1k”west coast“ can encompass a lot. I’d consider this open single track, and I’m from the west.

[@bradley7723]

Interesting bikes, but I'll stick with my tried and true yz250x, does everything I need, no excessive electronics and fuel maps to fail, and never had to push it back to the truck.

[@nightrider4370]

Never pushed mine back in over 12 years on KTM. Say whatever you need to say to put down these amazing bikes so you can feel better. Not cool.

[@bradley7723]

@@nightrider4370 I never put them down. KTM has some awesome bikes, in 1981 I had and desert raced a KTM495. Just because I prefer my yz250x now and it works best for me does not mean I'm saying the rest suck, that would be ignorant. I'm old school and don't need extra electronics to deal with, on the same note their are riders who multi-task their bikes and like fuel map choice, nothing wrong with that, personally I don't need that so that is why I have what I have. My choice is based on my riding style period.🙂

[@fattie2550]

I love my 2023 YZ250FX

[@bradley7723]

@@fattie2550 sweet bike, whether it's an x or fx you got to love that wide ratio trans. Be safe and have a blast on your bike.

[@fattie2550]

@@bradley7723 Heck yeah. Just rode 46 miles of single track today in Idaho. I’m hella tired now. Lol

[@chadbryan7815]

What coms do you use?

[@donaldblank8873]

The TPI bike Is much better than A TBI, They have more horsepower better fuel economy, And a better fuel tank pick up. The power valve is adjusted too far out on that TPI. For some reason nobody will give an honest opinion.

[@Unkownktm]

Don’t agree, I’ve had both and TBI this is overall better, much smoother and as for torque, not sure where you get your info from. Fuel economy is better on the TBI. On hill climbs TBI is a beast. Play with your sprocket size and minor changes on mapping. Suspension stock is next level, can’t compare with the TPI stock.

[@donaldblank8873]

@@Unkownktm Nope, I Ride against 2 2024 huskvarna 300s weekly. My TPI250 with a high compression head Cooper ECU and simple modes has more power. Is and far better fuel range. I go 65 miles in the mountains before my fuel light comes on. I can still go further. The TBIS do not compare.. They run out of fuel because of the fuel pump location. And I get my information from first-hand riding weekly. Hard enduro in the mountains with a group of people.

[@44mmsigma]

@@donaldblank8873no shit give a tbi those same modifications and its faster i guarantee it

[@Jeff-h9d]

​@@44mmsigma100% correct! Personally Jeff Slaven's has a kit to convert TPI back to premix and that's what I would do if I had a TPI KTM but TBI rocks as does a properly jetted carburetor or a Smart Carb 2 or Lectron mixed with Motorex 60:1.

[@westcoastfrisco]

Get on a XC/TX TBI. Motors are dialed on those

[@brettfrimmer6567]

Beautiful trails I’d love to ride that. But if that’s right you guys would hate the northeast 😂

[@desertrider325]

Audio is horrible, can't understand half of it.

[@chief8269]

TBI’s are blowing up left and right.

[@qdogbenson3112]

Please elaborate

[@chief8269]

A quick google search and it’s everywhere. I have a good friend that’s 23 TBI husky died in mid air on a big double. Scared the hell out of him. They’re amazing but are plagued with issues. KTM should have released a recall by now.

[@michaelwalas5948]

I don’t want to appear negative… but what’s the point in adding performance parts like a slip on pipe and look to upgrade the ECU mapping when you don’t rev the bike even to halfway?. It’s very cruisey slow riding, so you’d be better off on an old XR250 . It sounds horrible but I really don’t want to come across that way at all 🙅🏽‍♂️

[@robsonenduro3316]

there should not be TPI in first place...

[@onthethrottle7104]

Totally disagree, have them, work on bikes, have seen lots of great things with TPI...not doubt TBI is great too.

[@onthethrottle7104]

Pretty lame comparison really. Should take them for days on different trails and really put them to a real test. Also, any time you take a new bike it's going to feel better than a used one. Nothing better than a nice tight new bike, not to mention you've put all that money in the suspension and totally different tire set up on the new bike.

[@PNWEnduro]

All your sponsors and industry connections yet you can't be bothered to use a spark arrestor as required to ride legally on public land? You'd think someone in your position would set a better example.

[@sezeronal6806]

Please provide Turkish subtitles, we cannot use them, thank you…