£300 vs £5000 Camera Setup! LOW LIGHT SHOOTOUT (Canon 5D Mk I vs Mk IV)

[@PABLOSTRONGVLOGS]

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[@mattduncan5500]

all the photos we're seeing in the video have been edited ? including the comparison images

[@HAFhotandfluffy]

I'm a Nikon shooter, but I gotta give credit where credit is due. And personally, I think that even at 3200 ISO the MK1's noise looks more like film grain than noise.

[@kyrkish]

Alex Vozniuc agree.

[@trsc32]

Yep! A lot of people think the 5D classic has a film look to its sensor

[@VintageVines80s]

Agree

[@davidlewis1787]

Agreed I have never been a big fan of canon tbh but I have been considering a mk1 for a while now for grainy low light black and white street photography

[@summerfreeze474]

so true

[@HonJazzz]

The images from the 5D classic are unique. They certainly have a film like quality. I keep a 40mm pancake on mine and take it with me everywhere.

[@nevertwenty]

its just so f8cking large. how can you carry it everywhere

[@pers4855]

That 5d 1 shutter sound 👌🏽🤤

[@maggnet4829]

Na, the worst ever. I once was shooting an opera in a small room. The director was not amused...

[@pers4855]

Maggnet I personally love it #preference

[@maggnet4829]

@@pers4855 Ok, by an aesthetic point of you I can see what you mean, but from a photographers point of view it's a problem. People literally get scared by it.

[@pers4855]

Maggnet I feel what you are saying in a quiet room it’s definitely not ideal. But from a street photographers prospective like myself, I enjoy it

[@pers4855]

Alex Lac. It’s just preference but I get your point

[@RichardBarleyphoto]

I have been waiting for someone to go out and do this review. I run a lot of training courses and often surprise people when I tell them I have used a Canon 5D classic for 15 years at over 300 weddings. They expect me to say I have a mk4 I think. The key to the 5D noise is learning how to handle the file in Lightroom. You have to use 0 sharpening and increase noise reduction. Over exposing and exposing to the right using your histogram carefully is key. When you underexpose with the 5D classic sensor you get in trouble with noise. Great video thanks for making it kind regards Richard Barley👍

[@davidparks6444]

I'm glad to see you on this thread, I'm one of your subscribers. I'm amazed by every picture I take with my 5D. Using the tripod, timer and a slow shutter at night also produces shockingly wonderful photos while shooting that 1.8 at 4.0 sharpens it up more. Good video.

[@Maxiboi84]

Some great camera work by whoever's filming

[@juanm.florez8535]

It´s not even noise, it´s like grain. I love it!

[@glennbmendoza]

I like videos like this. Comparing the old vs new cameras. 5d classic is the first affordable full frame camera. Canon paved the way for us consumers to experience full frame. I remember way back 2006, I dont eat too much just to save money to buy 5d. Haha.. And when I finally bought it, Im the happiest person on earth that day.

[@helxis]

Shooting film has taught me that you can capture 99% of photos with 1600 or 3200 at worst. The remaining 1%, you can set up on a tripod. Grain will never ruin a truly good shot. This video goes on to demonstrate the same in the digital sense. I get tired of seeing mediocre photographers gabbing online about how they need to drop a few thousand bucks on a new body because of the "low light" capabilities, as if the money spent and technical performance is going to make them a better photographer. You took better shots in this video with the 5D than most people will ever take in their lives with brand new gear. I'm sure those same photographers will see this video and use it as confirmation of how they need newer and better gear, rather than the opposite.

[@S3l3ct1ve]

I liked 5d mk 1 shots more, because lower DR gave them more contrast between colors and that grain does not look so distracting compared to high Mpx count cameras grain which looks plain ugly. You can actually leave the grain on 5dm Mk1 and it will look good, while you need to remove it from modern cameras because it looks bad..

[@wanhl2440]

If you want to shoot indoor sport , you will need very high iso like 6400 or even 12800 frequently because you need fast shutter speed.

[@helxis]

@@wanhl2440 Really? How did people shoot indoor sports on film where there are no ISO ratings that high? Hint: The answer is actually the same way that this is still handled now; and it doesn't require high ISO.

[@choddo]

@@helxis I'm going with lovely joyous glass

[@peterc3619]

Slyest Fox indoor sports are sometimes a bit dark for cameras, so you NEED a high iso for a high shutter speed so motion blur doesn’t become a problem. Now how did they shoot similarly with film? I’m not an expert with film, but can’t you buy different iso films like the Kodak portra 160 iso and the Kodak portra 800 iso? Or am I very mistaken.?

[@yurionabike99]

This video just tells me that the Canon 5D classic is THE camera

[@Hatterdoug]

Didn't find any of the 5D MK I shots to be ugly or offensive, the grain structure is actually quite film-like and looks nice to my (untrained) eye. Would be really interested to find out what you think of Panasonic's offerings at the moment, the G9 and GH5, specifically for stills use.

[@Caracalaba]

Dale Gillett yes would be interesting to see an old FF sensor vs a new m4/3

[@S3l3ct1ve]

@@Caracalaba the smaller the sensor (or the more megapixels) the worst the noise looks...

[@TrillShatner]

@@S3l3ct1ve I choose between the GH5 and Canon 6D depending on how much space I have to work with.. GH5 also just has soo many features and between the 2 of them actually same amount of megapixels lol.

[@choddo]

Agreed, the only shot where I really thought the IV showed up the older camera was the street shot at 04:46

[@devinjones9614]

i shoot on one daily. youre right! it has awesome film-like noise, unlike most other cameras. low light is a bit difficult to deal with when it comes to pulling color out of a shot at iso3200.

[@jamiewindsor]

Great video. Really nice shots you're taking here too. (I still love the mark 1 though for its back-to-basics simplicity and ridiculously cheap price).

[@PABLOSTRONGVLOGS]

Thanks Jamie, yes the mark i is incredible bang for buck!

[@1204gameday]

It is a great second shooter camera for weddings with good light. We have been using the 6D more though since it does seem to be a bit more forgiving in low light. The Mark IV is now the primary shooter camera.

[@Motortriker]

When are you two going to hook-up again? Two of my favourite KZbinrs working together... do it!

[@JayArceo_]

Out of all the 5d in 2018 videos I have checked out, THIS is the video that made me decide to buy a 5d. Thank you!

[@matthewkaltenborn4621]

As someone who was really vocal and critical on your last comparison of these... I just want to say I have the upmost respect and really love that you made this! Thank you for such a lovely video. I love your photos, and its really clear how passionate you are about the 5d classic, and I have to say you really get great results from it!

[@PABLOSTRONGVLOGS]

Thanks Matthew, glad you enjoyed it :)

[@lichipong]

Not only the noise, but the image shadow detail in Mark I is degraded compared to the image taken with Mark IV. But the Mark I reminds me about the Fujifilm Natura 1600, those grains are so amazing. You should put together the 1600 Negatives image with Mark I high ISO setting image and see what will happen.

[@luisdelgado274]

I recently bought a Mark IV and this video make me feel so sad

[@Getoffmycloud53]

Talent beats technology, you create wonderful images.

[@cmphoto_]

Also, it’s nice to see a review with a good photographer 😂

[@PABLOSTRONGVLOGS]

Thanks dude :)

[@FlowzenKing]

05:49 how loving and admiring the guy looks at you before he turns and ran into the night... Great video and much better comparison than last time.

[@ebreckpo6563]

Having commented onto your past video regarding the 5D (classic) regarding high ISO, for a camera released in 2005 the 3200ISO is very clean compared to other contenders in the same time period. The quality of 3200ISO depends on the quality of the light. The 5DMKIV is in another league so is the price point. I have both camera's and the 5DMKIV is extremely good at high ISO even in less good light conditions (crappy light, mixed color temp, LED...). Although official Canon support has ended for the 5D it is a very nice FF starter camera with an easy menu system, if you are interested in purchasing one just check if it has the reinforced mirror brackets. I am still surprised of the output of this camera. With 12Mp you have to frame right due to the limited cropping abilities. In daylight you can make A3+ prints of good quality. If you have the money go for the 5DMKIV you will not be disappointed certainly in low light. The 30Mp adds some cropping ability. As things are moving mirrorless it is a nice opportunity to grab the 5dmkiv second hand.

[@cmphoto_]

MK I was still my favourite camera I’ve owned. That sensor just rendered so nice.

[@nonamuss9991]

Kept feeling I needed to upgrade. Feeling better about hanging on to my mark 1!

[@sholtham1]

Pros - buy a Mk 4. Everyone else, get a used Mk 1 and some used L glass - you won't be disappointed.

[@chrisdechristophe]

This.

[@ignatprokhoropchyuck4652]

That

[@sholtham1]

@@Aurelius_Mind Canon L series lenses are pro level - they have a red band at the end of the lens. Used 17-40mm and 24-105mm lenses can be bought quite cheaply and work well with an old 5D mk1

[@dornysunday9930]

@@sholtham1 What would be the best option for video? Is Mk ii far, far superior?

[@sholtham1]

@@dornysunday9930 5d Mark 1 doesn't have video so the mark 2 would be the only option. There are some good used examples if you look around.

[@bagua76]

I had the 5d classic. Some times ago, I sold for to try others cameras: pentax k5, k3, nikon d600, fuji xe2, xe3, sony A7. But one years ago, I sold everithing for to buy a old 5d mk 1, now I use only that, fantastic camera, fantastic pictures ;-)

[@IanRei]

This statement really encourages myself to buy a used 5d mki and sold my 60d. Thank you!☺

[@bagua76]

Try it, and You'll love it ; 😉👍

[@quazisanjeed6395]

I got a 5D Classic two months ago after a maddening search and loving it. Shoot landscape and lifestyle during the day. Therefore, ISO is never an issue. The ultimate prize! Film-look images that no other model can produce.

[@callumpenman1836]

I love to see your comments about your 5D, I see you comment on a lot of videos. Happy for you and your 5D. I recently got a 5Dii and I am in love with the colours. Perhaps I'll search for a 5D classic to add to my collection 😁

[@quazisanjeed6395]

@@callumpenman1836, I own a 5DII for three years already and love it. However, one must shoot in RAW to get the best out of it. Jpeg images right out of the camera aren't very nice. On the other hand, 5D Classic is a different ball game. It's not the sharpest or low-light beast. But it's a digital film camera that produces velvetty filmy images.

[@MattClarkeFilming]

This is all well and good but what camera is this video being filmed with?! handling the light amazingly!

[@planetdee3587]

My old Rebel XSI at high ISO handles noise the same as the 5D1. It has a nice grain to it.

[@joecap2919]

You also have to remember that a good 5D mk1 is only $250-$325 used vs $2,500 for MK4. In 30 yrs of shooting, I have never needed to go beyond iso1600. Especially now with IS lenses.

[@jsdhesmith2011]

I'm getting ready to by a mk1, what would be a good budget lens with IS or is there one? I'm more interested in shooting landscape photos and would like a Zoom, say 18-55mm

[@joecap2919]

@@jsdhesmith2011 Josh, you cannot use a 18-55mm as those are for APC mount only. If at all possible see if you can find a good used 24-105mm L, I picked one up on Craigslist for $400 and it is the best zoom I have ever shot. If you are really scraped for cash, the old EF 24-85mm is decent but no IS. Also for some reason the very old EF 100-200mm f4.5A performs great on the 5D and would only cost you about $30

[@waltlynch7619]

Josh Smitty Canon 28-135 IS. $100. In fair condition, was the “kit” lens when the 5D debued

[@lnguerreiro]

I still love the 5d images. 5d "noise" @ 3200+ is more like the sound of ocean wind.

[@ivogama1161]

Hey Pablo, just found your review today. What a breath of fresh air. An honest and relaxed review without giving total winners but showing the compromises between two amazing machines. Thanks so much for it!

[@ianhand5006]

Having tried Kodak T-Max P3200 in both my Canon T90 and EOS 600 bodies, I have to say that the EOS 5D Classic images at iso 3200 are pretty good. Sometimes it's nice to see a little noise, because it gives your images a slightly "retro" look. If you view the images in monochrome, the noise looks like film grain on the 5D Classic. It's one of Canon's finest cameras.

[@IanRei]

It is, indeed!😉👍

[@auomauom]

The class 5D looks almost film like

[@stefanospapadopoulos5857]

Sir, your kindness and the happy and slow way you are talking just earned you a new subscribe! I've already seen this type of videos already but I can watch your videos without getting tired. And trust me, I am not an easy subscriber. Keep up the good work and don't forget to be happy! Cheers

[@skyhigh1154]

Love both these 📷's, they are both great.

[@deovid]

Thanks for this video! I used to have the 5d1 and its still one of the cameras with the most appealing image quality and even good ISO performance by todays standards. I used to shoot at 3200 ISO on the 5d1 and it's still super clean and full of detail. Canon could have easily given it one or two pushed ISO's. Also the color and the general image quality of the 5d1 has a "je ne sais quoi" character to it I've never seen in any other camera.

[@desertstorm3006]

Damn, I love the noise/grain from Mark I!

[@KentuckyMan30]

Came for the photography/camera content, stayed for "Green Eyes." Such a great song.

[@BP-xe7dw]

Its 2024 and these are still my favorite images from your videos. I watched the A7 review and the pictures felt lifeless.. I have A7 but there is something about the Canon 5D classic. Its very much film like, the colors, the grain, the imperfections. I have to get that camera. Lovely images.

[@davidharvey4059]

Without doubt the best Canon bargain is the 6D. Everything good about the 5D with a vastly better sensor, live view, video, lens micro adjust etc all for very little money

[@boyangeorgiev]

Great video! I bought the mk I a year ago after graduating university and I’ve been loving it. I’ve taken great, great shots with it and it still runs brilliantly. I does get a bit noisy at dark butI does a pretty darn good job. I managed to get it for £150 with the 50mm from a second hand camera shop in London. It’s not about the gear!

[@gltzddonut]

The 5D classic is a better camera because it blows life into images due to its strong color array. The denoising mechanisms embedded in the 5D mark IV give wrong skintones compared to the mark I which is always spot on. After testing and comparing I will sell my 5D Mark IV there really isn't a point for any kind of serious photographer owning a tripod and not messing around snapping images at 12 pm.

[@stevensager2854]

I have a 5d classic and a 5d iii. I use the III professionally. But the mark I is my every day go to for landscapes. The mk I is truly an animal

[@HereIsKhansu]

I like how the noise in 5d mark 1 is just like some grainy aethetic retro stuff, yeah something like that and I think it makes it pretty cool effect on the photo

[@TheUltimateBlooper]

I own a pair of 5D Mark I's, had a 5D III (now sold) and I shoot with a Mark IV. To me the key differences between them are resolution (obvious) and how much detail the files hold in the shadows. If you do very light editing and leave you contrast SOOC kind of high - sure, both cameras look the part. But where I find the Mark I falls apart really quickly is if you underexpose or have saturated colors...both is even worse. Those 12-bit files get very noisy and pixelated with no smooth color transition when you try to recover shadows. This is even somewhat problematic if you try to de-vignette shots taken with a lens that vignettes a lot (50mm f/1.4, 35mm f/2 IS, etc). Denoising in LR doesn't help much as even then the tonal transitions are very unpleasant. These files are almost best left alone. Plus it doesn't help that the JPEG preview cooked into the raw files is only half-res, which makes critical focus hard to tell sometimes. Though it must be said that SOOC images from the Mark I are very...film-like, which is why I bought the cameras in the first place. Super simple camera with no bells and whistles - it just takes pics. Very good for learning, which I appreciate. Plus, with computational photography you can take very high-res images, 3D scans, noise-free images, etc - if you know what you're doing and if the scene is suited for that. Which is great, since a 128GB card can hold about what...7000-8000 raw files. I've shot 2600 frames and I've not filled up the card even half-way yet xD Overall, even if the Mark I is a bit of a dud if you like your shadow detail - it's a great learning tool and the files have a special look to them :)

[@TheUltimateBlooper]

Oh and the reason I have two 5Ds is because... well, for one they're cheap, but that's not it. I bought two, because the first one I bought from Japan turned out to be a MINT one - no scuffs, no degradation, lovely beautiful camera, fully boxed with a new strap, etc. Even SMELLS brand new! So...I'm keeping that one boxed xD Bought another one from Poland - slightly scuffed and scratched, but still really good-looking. So that's the one I abuse :D

[@vishpatel8476]

Nice comparison, as a 5d2 owner thinking about upgrading this has been helpful. You got yourself another subscriber.

[@jhsys]

Great video! I just bought a 5D "classic" yesterday. Have had the MkIII, MkIV, 10D,20D,30D,40D,50D,60D before.

[@hectorcasas2816]

What a great piece of news having a new video Pablo. I missed them a lot :) Outstanding camera work from both of you guys. I really enjoyed it !!

[@wblati]

would be nice to know what settings you had the two cameras on - a side from the ISO.

[@Petersonstudios]

It's fun to hear Coldplay in the background :DD

[@90boiler]

Still using a 5D even today. It feels old, low FPS, basic AF but it still gets images. The colors are awesome of this old camera.

[@tjc9514]

Wow! You've really opened my eyes. I have a 5D Mk 2 that I've been struggling to get good photos out of and you've made me realize that I just need to become a better photographer

[@aantonic]

i have 5dm2 and quality of photos is great, even compared to todays modern cameras, nothing wrong with 5dm2,why u struggling with it?

[@jesperlett]

Great video. You didn't have to leave the 5Dm1 behind at 3200 ISO. You could have pushed it in post, 1 stop for 6400 ISO, 2 stops for 12800 ISO

[@S3l3ct1ve]

5d mk i DR is really not that good at iso3200 the quality drop would be drastic in those conditions.

[@guillandanthony711]

I had the 5D Mark II (which is still a very good camera) for some time and then I bought the 7D Mark II for sports photography. So, with the 7D Mark II, I started missing this high-tech feeling on the 5D Mark II. So I bought the 5D Mark IV and I do not regret it at all. Most of all, I like the fact that all the settings can also be seen in the viewfinder.

[@ESKATEUK]

There is a certain charm about the pictures on the 5D mk1, that the 5D mk4 just doesn’t have

[@adrianarmenta3572]

I currently have a t1i with a 50mm1.8. I was thinking on saving up to buy a classic 5D. Still unsure... Great video!

[@thehospitalitycontentcreator]

So nice to see a London photographer walking about those streets 🤘🏼

[@xcx8646]

Pablo, were theses out-of-camera JPAEGs, or edited raw files? Thanks - really useful video!

[@Jayysam95]

I recently bought the 13 year old Mark 1 and it really is a very capable camera. The ISO 3200 photos looked quite usable and the shutter sound does remind me of an old film camera with a motor drive but I like it lol.

[@887Rabbit]

Been doing a lot of low light with film and love the grainy images it can produce especially black and white. Saw a lot of similarities in the later part of the MK 1 segment which I thought was very pleasing and not something that would cause me to be worried by the appearance of noise. Love your composition, really thoughtful.

[@HyperTeddyBear]

7:15 Where is this alleyway? It looks so cool with the neon lights. I feel like shooting there!

[@johnhaynes9910]

A very interesting comparison, I have never owned a MkI but I do have a MkII which I find very satisfying to use because of its relative simplicity compared with more recent cameras, yes you do have to "work" at things a bit more but there is a greater sense of achievement when you nail it. Perhaps I'm a bit of a an old man but recently, I've also gone back to wet film and shooting in black and white alongside my digital cameras as much to slow me down and concentrate on what I'm shooting as to get my 'eye back' from spending too much time shooting in maximum fps !

[@johnwest7228]

the 5D was very impressive, then you factor in the price difference- that camera is a steal

[@bobfromhull]

I picked up a 'like new' 1Dmk2 on MPB. Run it alongside my 6D2 and 80D and absolutly love it. Servo AF at 9.5 fps is amazing. Consider if you got married only 8 years ago this is what your pro would have used and you would still br happy with the rslts today.

[@wayneronnie7402]

I have a 100d... would it be worth getting a Canon 5D Mk I to replace it? Would the full frame sensor compensate for the less megapixels in my 100d?

[@swapnildave9586]

Hey man, great video! Just to confirm your images are indeed edited correct? Meaning noise correction and color grading both have been applied to the images you are showing? Thanks

[@richardharvey1732]

Hi Pablo, it may be worth noting that Iso variation is applied gain, there is no change to the exposure at the sensor, added after the image has been received by the sensor, therefore you can add gain (exposure) in post to shoot the Mk1 one or two stops under-exposed then add exposure in post to get a very similar result to having applied one or two stops of Iso when shooting, you would then of course see much higher levels of noise and dynamic range degradation. There will also be the factor of pixel pitch to take on board, the greater number of smaller pixels on the later camera will have a slightly lower dynamic range and commensurate lower signal to noise ratio. Some of this is visible in the cropped images where the lower pixel density shows up as a slightly more enlarged image when cropped, if you could properly match the enlargement you would get a more accurate result. The overall impression is none the less, interesting, if only to show how little real change in image quality has come within the last four new models of the 5D! Cheers, Richard.

[@ballyakbar9298]

what do you think about mark II ? is it similar with mark I

[@tdavis85]

Hey Pablo - fantastic analysis of the ISO ranges of these cameras - have you also seen the difference in focus systems and accuracy between the two cameras too?

[@milodermick2981]

Absolutely gorgeous photo with both

[@mattgloyn3928]

What’s the 5D like on tripod long exposure nighttime photograph ,,black and white ? I’m buying one with a 28- 70 L ,I used to use a 7D mk1 and get good shots ,cheers 👍🏾

[@DieCastErn]

Comparison videos are the best! OMG u went to Las Vegas, lots of memories there!

[@lifetimesofamultiplemediam1003]

Props for mentioning the shutter sound. Most reviewers overlook stuff like that nowadays. I have the 5dM2, but it sounds like a rivet machine… not so cool… takes wicked pictures though. I also have a 6D2 which is my main FF machine, and the shutter whispers sweet-nothings like it's in leeeerve!

[@sale83]

This video just shows how good cameras are. If one is not able to get a great picture with 5D Classic, that means he sucks and there is no Sony A7III, A9, Nikon D4, D5, D850, D810, D750, Canon 1dx mk2, 5D 2,3,4, 6d mk 1,2, Leica or any other newest camera out there that will help him. And it means that you don't need to have the latest and greatest gear every time. I would always go for 5d classic, than any crop on the market, it is dirt cheap these days.

[@Mikri90]

That's what I suggest to any rookie looking for a camera. They all usually get hung up on newest crop cameras (the newest Rebels for instance), not realizing there's a hidden FF gem to be had for dirt cheap. Heck, even the mark 2 is now cheap. Granted, it's "easier" to recommend a new, modern camera with all its bells and whistles to someone just starting out, but I still think a camera like the 5D would be more beneficial to someone fresh into photography. It would give them a beautiful output with the added benefit of not making them lazy. It really is a true photographer's camera, it gives you the potential to make some great imagery, but at the same time it's as simple as it gets.

[@ShlomoLevi]

get it, next question same but about MK2 you can find it today less than $300 in a very good condition sometimes even for $200 so it's should be interesting to compare

[@alexs.818]

Is it just me or is does the classic get better colors in certain situations than the mark iv? I picked up a classic in decent condition and i just can’t stop shooting with it. So unique when it comes to picture quality!

[@zenden6564]

The 5D1 RAW processed in DXO DeepPrime is incredibly improved in the shadow noise above 1600iso.

[@ESKATEUK]

I’m interested to know, how would this 5D mk1 compare to a 700D in low light? I currently have a 700D and wondered if the low light would be better or worse on the 5D classic

[@summerfreeze474]

5D Classic = Organic Noise, almost filmic stuff

[@gladiolus2990]

did you compare pictures from raw file? cause main improvement is jpeg quality from years. if you take raw photo from both cameras and convert with lightroom etc you can see very little difference.

[@chrisdechristophe]

Just got a 5d classic. It's such a great camera for the money, except should I worry about the mirror coming off? Most of those for sale in the UK don't have the fix. They are so old now is it likely they won't have this issue?

[@adrianjuggernaut6501]

I bought one with the mirror that has fallen off for a bargain of what would be around 90 pounds. Some quick fix with loctite super glue and the mirror is in its place. It really should not be more complex than this

[@krishnapoddar1655]

Ok this is not the comment anyone would expect here I was having some serious exam stress rn because its day after tomorrow but Pablo's great pictures and this great video really helped me relax...I dunno what was so relaxing about this video - the content or Pablo himself, maybe both!

[@PABLOSTRONGVLOGS]

Good luck for your exams 🙂👍🏼

[@thelifeofjools8384]

The 5D mk1 always gave a certain character to the images... looking at this video, I still think so. The 5D had unusually large pixels on the sensor....and less tightly packed ...12.8mp. I still think the images have great character. Maybe I like a bit of imperfection...but I preffered most of the mk1 shots to those of the mk4.

[@sosijiz1971]

Agreed!

[@ignatprokhoropchyuck4652]

1ds even better 5d

[@lenso010]

i have 5d mark2 . I get fuzzy and out of focus photography at low light street photography. I use 24-105 lens) Should move to 5d mark4 or change the lens to 50mm 1.4?

[@pedrothevenard]

99% of the problems you might encounter comparing the 5d mark I to the mark IV can be solved by upgrading to the mark II, don't take me wrong the mark I is still a beast, but the mark II is just better, the video alone do justify the upgrade, everything after are just incremental upgrades, but the mark I to II is a justifiable upgrade to me, and you can find those for 500 pounds or less used, even at 600 would still be a good deal.

[@HumanClouds]

And yet... the 5d has more appeal, and I just don’t need the video.

[@swervon617]

Great video! I'm a total noob and was planning on buying a Mk 1 specifically for night photography. Could you mitigate the loss of quality by using a stabilized lens or one with a higher f stop? I plan on buying a tripod but it would be nice to shoot with a fast shudder speed also. Thanks!

[@uzeyourillusion]

Nice review. What’s your take on best canon camera for landscapes ?

[@dme28]

I love the noise on 5D Mk1, feels like pictures from film time period, ISO 1600 is fully usable.

[@dme28]

even ISO3200, slightly sharpened in the postprocessing software

[@ruimiguelribeiroluis5031]

Hi.. Nice video!! I see you from Portugal !1 What you think about Canon 1D mark iii ? Thanks

[@eikotehgrowingmouse]

I have an XTi and would love to upgrade, been looking at a 5d mkii or an SL2 . I do a lil of everything from street to landscape. it's like, do I go for that juicy full frame? or do I go to the newer image processing and articulating screen... trying to stay under $500 CAD...

[@burnthedead13]

I understand that the 5dc is not great with low light but wouldn't using a tripod make the image more stable and usable?

[@josh2676]

the mark 1 noise is not that bad, and even if youre shooting in pitch black scenarios you can remove a good amount of noise in lightroom or darktable

[@bogdan_bovt]

nice comparison, 5d not too bad in low light

[@ashekrahaman4524]

Love your channel. Great videos . I am planning to buy a A7II, but after seeing your video I am quite interested in 5D Mark 1, would you appreciate it a lot if you / someone can let me know is A7II far better in low light situation than the classic 5Dm1 ? Thanks in advance

[@KarlMaxFernandes]

So, when i compare with 6d, whats reaaly matter about 5dmkIV or MKi , is reallly diffferent??

[@jackmckechnie5801]

I think it would be good to see one between the 5D1 and the 5D2...I've seen videos where the noise performance in the 5D2 had less grain in higher ISO's than the 5D3...I love the 5D1...hard to find a better camera than that...but it would be cool to see the comparison..

[@devinjones9614]

the noiseon the 5d mk1 is like no other. its oftentimes like film noise. very beautiful sometimes.

[@Max-lk2ro]

I bought a 5Dc recently and is one of the most funny cameras I have ever used. Film-like noise structure, the color are different than other Canons, and the monitor is shit, so you have to take much care when taking a picture (i use vintage lenses manual focus only) because you don't have how to check if it's really really ok or not. And no live view.

[@283526251]

Hi are you shooting with JPG or RAW on this video?

[@MichalT]

I will ask for a comparison with an additional camera that is SONY A7s (Mark I). I suppose he will put it on the shoulders Canon 5D Mk.I and Mk.IV.

[@Motortriker]

When did Pablo replace his selfie stick with a camera operator? 🤣 High ISO comparison between mki and iv: is probably worth pointing out that the perceived noise is also a function of different pixel counts. If you cropped into the iv to a pixel for pixel comparison rather than a scene to scene comparison then the mki wouldn't look quite so poor. But that's not very useful as a real world comparison. Keep em coming Pablo. And please revisit the street interview work too. 👍

[@chmeephreekz]

i own both. and i can tell, that the "perPixel" Output of the 5DIV is at least as good as by the 5DI. so, in all technical ways an circumstances, the Mark IV is the better camera. nonetheless, i love the 5DI as well, because she/it (?!) has a wonderful output and is a classic, retro, but digital body. AND its so bloody cheap, it doesnt make sense selling such a gem.

[@maggnet4829]

I agree mostly. Though I can see a typical occuring case, where the pixel level noise tricks you. It's when you are used to the flexibility of croping, because of the higher pixel count and then you get into lower light situations and quickly run into the trap, that you can't crop as you where used from good light. I know, it sounds at first like an artificial problem, but actually keeps happening to me...

[@cooloox]

Motorbiker You could look at it the opposite way and downsample the 5Div image to 12.8MP and have virtually no noise.

[@chmeephreekz]

@@cooloox right. i did a comparison of 5diii and 5d. the 5diii was already 2 stops (of snr) in advantage. perPixel-wise. "the noise as a function of pixel counts" complies only on same-generation-sensors, fi a7s versus a7r or 5diii versus 5dsr.

[@Motortriker]

I think we agree we're saying the same thing here. Some (not all) of the reason the MkIV looks so good against the Classic is the effective downsampling. And in reality, we're never really viewing MkIV output at 100% resolution so it'll "always" outperform the older model. You say tomato I say tomato hahaha