$300 Watch Vs $3000 Watch | Seiko SKX013 Vs Tudor Black Bay 58

In this video I compare the $300 Seiko SKX013 against the $3000 Tudor BB58. Is the Black Bay Fifty-Eight 10 times better then the SKX013?
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[@kamilhusna94]

when putting them side-by-side, maybe you should've tilted them to the side to compare the thickness rather than leaving them faced up all the time.

[@felix3717]

GAW, you did a great job comparing these two watches. I own the skx013 and it’s a great looking watch. I have been considering buying the Black Bay 58 to add to my collection and your comparison helps me a lot to narrow my choices. I also think that the price of the Tudor is absolutely justified given its quality overall and in-house movement. The Geneve stamp reiterates the fact that this watch is held to a higher standard than other Swiss watches in this price range (at least in my opinion). Thank you very much and keep up the good work!

[@WatchesAndCars]

Thanks man, appreciate it! Glad my video could be of help. Agreed, the BB58 offers a lot of value for your money. Great movement, finishing, design etc. Definitely one of the best watches in the price range. Regards GAW

[@Ryan-jr2cv]

Both great watches. I've got a Seiko SKX007J1 for work, gym, everyday etc and I've got a Tudor Black Bay Steel for special occasions - I prefer the steel bezel version as it has a date window and I think has more wrist presence. Obviously the Tudor is a better watch but is it worth 10 times more? hmmm probably not but I love it and I believe watches are about how they make you feel wearing them and are a way to express your taste and style. I have other watches but if I'm totally honest I would be happy with just these 2 for the rest of my life.

[@michaelbishop9157]

Ryan in terms of build quality and the movement then yes definitely worth the premium

[@WatchesAndCars]

Well said! Both the Seiko SKX and the Tudor BB have it's own place in the collection as you said. Of course the BB is a luxury item, but if we compare it to similar watches in the same price range, it offers a lot of value. I think that's part of the reason why it make you "feel great", other then the great design and quality. Regards GAW

[@valjean3141]

What does that actually mean, when you say “the Seiko is overpriced”? Do you mean that the SKX should really only cost $100 instead of $200, and that the SKX is objectively equivalent to other $100 watches in quality (like, maybe, the Vostok Amphibia)? I’m genuinely not trolling you - it’s just that lots of people, including many collectors, really enjoy that tier. And there are reasonable debates over the relative quality and value of watches within the $100 to $300 range. But my sense is that you’re not really interested in any of that - you’re just reinforcing that Tudor is much more expensive, and that that premium is based on objective factors, including but not limited to quality of materials and craftsmanship. More or less on target?

[@tnvalleyyoga7122]

You are You are Correct.

[@Crazywaffle5150]

Your omega was not running lol.

[@sevimunalan9698]

He about that flex tho

[@MulksBikes]

Neither is the Seiko

[@FINEST-uz9ek]

I have had my BB58 for just over a month now and I absolutely love the watch! A perfect fit for my 6.75 inch wrist it has broken in and is now running at -2 seconds was running within +4 to -4 (within cosc) but has settled down now to -2. Everything about the watch is perfect with two minor exceptions: appears to not have anti reflective coating on Safire crystal and the lume is just ok... I got an excellent price on watch on bracelet for $3278 . The BB58! Is my first dip into a luxury watch brand and After wearing this watch for just over a month I cannot go back to a Seiko . All my other watches feel substandard compared to this watch!

[@Sturnburn772]

Love my skx013. As a grad student, it's served me well in all different roles. However, the BB 58 is a grail of mine. I'm hoping tudor drops some new colors this year. Great video!

[@WatchesAndCars]

Thanks! Great to hear you are enjoying your SKX013 as well It's just a great watch, and for me it still holds a place in the collection even though I have the BB58. I think that says a lot about the SKX. Good luck with your studies. Regards GAW

[@LondonLex]

They did…did you buy another colour? I’m still considering the original.

[@Sturnburn772]

@@LondonLex i dont like the other BB58 colors but i love the BB54...and the BB58 gmt looks fantastic as well. Havent purchased

[@BingbongRecto]

Dude you forgot to wind your Omega

[@WatchesAndCars]

Haha yeah. Not used to have a manual-wind only watch. I wound it the day before, but I must have forgot to rewind it when I put it on in the morning. So I guess it stopped sometime before I recorded the video. Regards GAW

[@rob826]

I like this ‘comparison’ as they are two of the only sensibly sized divers of recent years in my opinion. The gilt bb58 is the most beautiful watch around imo after the yachtmaster 40 black dial. Work of art.

[@34TR3m]

Agree, but since this year there is a new Swiss alternative: the certina ds 38mm diver

[@AlfredoRGuillen]

Both are great watches. I own both and changed the Seiko bracelet (very cheap jubilee) for Uncle Seiko jubillee which to my surprise came with screw pins and really made it look spectacular as quality was above expectations. Tudor on the other hand is probably the best and most beautiful watch I´ve owned so far and I actually go to bed with it as its loom is spectacular. Love them both...

[@fpoynton1604]

Fantastic and very solid points. It is truly remarkable that you can get a cool mechanical old tec timepiece with a legit, broad, longstanding international diving history that can last 10 years for 250 dollars. For the 3, 250 bucks every two or three days - I ll move the minute hand the 3 millimeters - lol. That being said I have an Omega PO , Hamilton, and a few other aquisitions related to this marketing driven , "pursuit of who knows what - certainly its not about knowing the time " . lol. Thank you again.

[@piezasdeltiempo]

I have both, the Tudor really worth it

[@colbyperry3325]

R A Tudor isn’t that bad for the price, but I black bay should retail for about 1500-2000

[@BrandonKent136]

@@colbyperry3325 How? It's basically a submariner. In house movement from the Rolex family. It's more a submariner than the submariner...

[@mhsvz6735]

SKX013 is definitely a collectable classic.

[@welwellwell71]

Good video thanks. What size is your Omega you are wearing?

[@mrxcman9272]

Huh. I guess getting my SKX013 for $200 wasn't a bad deal.

[@TheLahiru123]

Hi there, Great Review ! Could u pls let me know what kind of Nylon Strap is it on the Seiko SKX013 ? looks very nice and trying to get the same one for my Seiko SKX013 too ! Regards !

[@waltheisenberg5620]

Both the Seiko and the Tudor have excellent lume and 200m depth. Seiko even goes an extra step on the SKX series being a ISO 6425 certified diver. The Tudor 58 should be about a grand less than it is. The Seiko is priced right and a great watch for the money. Tudor 58 is overprices IMO. I've been in the watch hobby for 15 years now and have concluded the watch industry has gone of the rails with prices. $10k for a Rolex SS submariner is just insane and puts me out of the new buying game indefinably even though I could easily afford one. Even the previous generation 16610 which I own, at $6k retail with the usual 10% discount was the the max I could justify for a SS watch that likely cost Rolex less than $1,000 to make.

[@robby_robby_g]

I was set to purchase a Rolex shortly before the outbreak of covid 19. Given the circumstances, I put that on hold until things are more stable. I purchased an skx013 in the meantime, and I am bonding with it so much. I’m so impressed, there’s a good chance I don’t get that Rolex after all. :)

[@albert333pool]

I found one for $250! Cannot wait to get my hands on it

[@robby_robby_g]

@@albert333pool congrats! Wear it in good health

[@TheLahiru123]

Hi there Great review! Can u pls let me know what type of nylon strap is that on Seiko ? Where can I get one? Cheers !

[@TD-uq6lq]

Hi what is the green strap on the skx? its really nice. Thank you

[@electribe727]

I think its a barton watch strap brand.

[@johandebondt5749]

Def want to see your take on that Omega. I recently inhereted my dad's gold 1960 Seamaster. He wore for 20 years on a strech bracelet. Put it on a original Bond strap rightaway and still running like champ :-) This one is looking very similarly.

[@epicunderstament867]

I hope you do a review on the Oris Diver 65 in the 36 mm size and compare it against the SKX013 and the BB58.

[@WatchesAndCars]

Great idea! Will try and get a hold of a Oris 65 in the future. Regards GAW

[@epicunderstament867]

I compared the SKX013 vs the Oris Divers Sixty-Five 36mm in a video that I uploaded. Looks like my next diver watch is the Oris

[@MrRyanmarsh]

Thanks for the great video. I own these two watches and they are my two favorite in my small collection. If I could only have one, I think I would take the Seiko. It is easy to replace, cheap to repair (also doesn't require dealing with Rolex, which can be a headache) , easy to regulate, has a really great case, has a day and a date, has super great lum, and has nice fat spring bars. I also love the bracelet on the Seiko just as much as the one on the BB58. I don't fret over its accuracy and fit and finish because it is low cost. I don't worry about damaging it. If it is lost or stolen, I have a new one waiting to go in my basement... Though I must say, the Seiko gets very little wrist time since I got the BB58 :) The BB58 is special, and I am never selling it.

[@sherlys8022]

i own these two also.. :)

[@0017Bulldog]

Interesting comparison to me. I own the 007 and I love it even with its shortcomings. If I could afford a luxury watch I would probably be the Blackbay 58 and that is why I think your vid is a great comparison of what may seem like apples to oranges where it really is just two different apples.

[@HarryUnchained]

I always like the hands on the skx013 better than skx007 but the case looks weird especially the curve on the lug ends.

[@AK-pr2nk]

Just bought a seiko skx013 and it's an awesome watch. With a modified bezel it's a class deal

[@drewski5150]

Perhaps more controversial: an objective comparison between the Seiko SKX and the Invicta Pro Diver.

[@mickmouse3513]

Love the look of this watch & thats not because it's cheaper than a Rolex.

[@benko7ab]

Yes, interested in your Seamaster. How about the Omega Railmaster in comparison to the Tudor, they are in the same price category and the Omega probably has a superior movement.

[@pedrosaenz2800]

Omega has better quality movements from my point of view. I am a Rolex fan though their insane prices and waiting lists...

[@WatchesAndCars]

Will do a video on the Seamaster in the near future! BB58 vs Railmaster would be a very interesting comparison. It's pretty hard to find a direct comparison between the Omega and the Tudor movement. But it's a very interesting topic and I will probably do some research on it and put together a video comparing the 2 movements. Regards GAW

[@benko7ab]

Looking forward to it👍

[@sherlys8022]

Both are my fav watches,.. great video. New subs.

[@josephschuhrej5823]

I have both and the quality is 1000 better with Tudor. I love the 007 but the movement isn’t very accurate. My in-house Tudor is spot on, I mean Rolex quality at a fraction

[@jonnieinbangkok]

My Seiko Prospex Samurai automatic diver is accurate to . 25 (1/4) seconds a day...not bad for a $ 500 watch.

[@josephschuhrej5823]

Jonnie Bangkok...My Seiko Sumo is about the same as well. Fantastic watches for the $ no doubt. But the Tudor case/Movement/Bracelet/Finishing is waaaay nicer then any Seiko I own

[@jonnieinbangkok]

@@josephschuhrej5823 Agree on materials and finishing...just commenting on amazingly accuracy of the movements in these affordable Seiko watches. But I'm not saying Seikos are as good a watches as Tudors, Omegas, etc.

[@josephschuhrej5823]

R A...Clueless, yea ok pal. I’m sure the 007 is better then my Seadweller to. It’s a shitter

[@josephschuhrej5823]

R A..I’m a fan boy of tudor...Rolex… Hookers… Hindu porn… But not seiko shitters

[@Eric_Nielsen]

If you own primarily $300 watches, you probably won't appreciate the difference in quality. If you own primarily $3000 watches, you definitely will see the difference immediately.

[@ericfelger]

I disagree, with a caveat. I agree that the finish is better on a Tudor or a Rolex, however... is it worth the extra 2700.00? I personally dont feel it is. If you do, I respect your opinion. Thanks for allowing my two cents, and hope you have a great day.

[@SharapovaFan]

​@@ericfelger ​My Tudor Black Bay Chrono after several months of ownership loses 1 second... a week. That's even better than the Omega 8500 on my Seamaster. The 6R15 movement on my Seiko Ananta, which definitely a better movement than the 7S26 movement on the SKX, has gradually lost more and more seconds a day after several months. I had to have it serviced after 4 years. It was still working as expected, but not keeping the correct time. Many might find that losing over 10 seconds a day is still somewhat accurate. They probably don't care as long as the watch keeps ticking. But a watch that doesn't tell time correctly and requires very frequent adjustments to do so is not good a watch. My Tudor has a service interval of 5 to 7 years and is guaranteed to stay within COSC chronometer standards within that period. Oh yeah, the MT5813 on the Tudor also has other interesting features such as: 1) Quickset date change without non-correction range, meaning you can change the date without regards to the time whereas on most automatics, you shouldn't change the date when the time is between a certain range. e.g. on the 7S26, you shouldn't change the date between 9 pm and 4 am or else you risk damaging the gears of the movement. 2) Silicon hairspring ensures the power delivery isn't too affected by magnetism (push and pull), temperature changes (expansion and contraction) and other environmental factors that affect metal hairsprings on less sophisticated movements. This also greatly helps the MT5813 remain precise without regulation for longer service intervals. 3) The MT5813 movement is only 7.23 mm thick. In comparison, the 7S26 is 7.2 mm thick yet the MT5813 has a much larger 70 hour power reserve AND is a chronograph movement with all the latest tech (column wheel chrono with vertical clutch). The MT5602 on the Black Bay featured in this video has pretty much the same features as the MT5813 except for the chronograph and it's thinner too since no chrono. So you see, that extra money you pay for is not just how the watch looks. It's also skin deep. Sure, you can spend $300 on an automatic watch. A somewhat accurate watch, yes. But a precise watch? No. If you want an automatic watch that is precise even in adverse conditions, you'll have to spend more on one that has a far better movement. If you want a precise watch which is not necessarily mechanical, a quartz is the best option really. When you realize all the effort they make in making a mechanical timepiece that actually keeps correct time in the most extreme conditions, it's the moment you begin truly appreciating the craft of watchmaking. Most who have just gotten into the hobby of watches through Seiko do not realize that yet. When they do, the gulf in price between this Seiko SKX013 and the Tudor Black Bay make complete sense. All that R&D money well spent. In the end though, it all depends on how much you're willing to pay and how much you're willing to compromise. There is no right or wrong answer. Buying a watch is a matter of taste after all. It's understandable why Seiko gets a lot of love. They sell automatic watches with many, many designs that are both affordable and accessible, and robust in a sense that they can technically keep operating for many, many years without service. They won't keep good time without getting serviced occasionally, however. For most people, being off by a minute a day is the least of their concerns. I mean, we all have cellphones that keep correct time, all the time. But for many of us that love watches, knowing the CORRECT time from looking at the watch on your wrist, and not a phone, is one of the most satisfying things.

[@ericfelger]

@@SharapovaFan very well put. Thank you for the well articulated reply.

[@FINEST-uz9ek]

Your 100% correct , I recently purchased BB58 and love the watch! It is my first step into luxury watches after owning several Seiko watches and others within a 300-750 price range and this Tudor blows them away I can’t even pick up those other watches and may to sell them off!

[@jd88gtr19]

Funny how people don't realise that people with Pateks look at your "measly" $3000 watch as child's play. There's always a bigger fish my friend, realistically they are all good watches, But if you want to play the quality because of price game, You will lose every single time because your $3000 watch is peanuts to an $80000 watch. And that person won't win either because there is a more expensive watch. My point is, build quality and overall finish only increases marginally at $3000 more or $50000, etc. I love tudor also, so don't get me wrong.

[@paulandsueroberts4121]

Just received my Tudor black bay 58 and I absolutely love it, I think it’s truly a beautiful watch.

[@WatchesAndCars]

Congrats on a great piece, enjoy it! Regards GAW

[@JohnConnor12]

Did you order at the AD? How long was the wait?

[@paulandsueroberts4121]

SeekerOfTruth yes ordered through an AD waiting time.....one week!! I think I got mine through a cancellation.

[@JohnConnor12]

@@paulandsueroberts4121 Oh, nice! Sounds like you got lucky. I've seen some people say 2 months and others up to 6 months.

[@paulvine5056]

I like both of them. I had to sell my Rolex Submariner and am looking to get a Tudor Black Bay 58 when I have the funds. It looks like a great watch and is about 40% the cost of a similar Rolex Submariner. I think Rolex needs to find a way to make their watches affordable, but that's another topic.

[@Vlogmoviesproduction]

how about the BB 58 with the orient triton? thinking of getting the 58 but not sure if the jump in quality is worth the price diff

[@WatchesAndCars]

I have never owned the Orient Triton, but I have owned the Mako USA II. It was a well built watch and the Triton will probably be similar or a better in terms of build quality from what I have heard. But of course, it won't be as good as the BB58. Regards GAW

[@djz2308]

Beautiful shots, dude. Holy crap.

[@WatchesAndCars]

Thanks man! Regards GAW

[@drgeek100]

your data on the case diamater for the skx007 is wrong.

[@michaelcretten9558]

What strap have you got on the skx?

[@WatchesAndCars]

Here you go: amzn.to/2O200Oz So far it's seems like a pretty good strap for the money. Regards GAW

[@tynannida9642]

You didn’t do this, but I love how people rave about seiko in house movements. I would much rather have an eta or miyota over a 7s, 4r, or 6R

[@jonnieinbangkok]

Why?

[@MrMegaTubs]

@@jonnieinbangkok because they aren't that good.

[@jonnieinbangkok]

@@MrMegaTubs My Seiko Prospex automatic diver is accurate to half second a day. I'd say that's pretty good.

[@tynannida9642]

Jonnie Bangkok I’ve had several of each and the Swiss/miyota powered watches have always been more accurate. Small sample size though

[@cmvanderhurst]

do you always not set or wind your watches?

[@colbyperry3325]

Is it bad to own both of these?

[@rootedrotor525]

no

[@lowersaxon]

I own a pimped 013 (movement, sapphire, crown, lumed bezel, strapcode jubilee) simply because I like the charm of the skx line. I paid ca. € 675.- the seller doing all the mods. With a 6.7“ wrist I prefer 38 mm and 39 mm watches. I could, sorry, afford and buy the Tudor or even a Rolex Submariner instantly but I won‘t. A Rolex could be an argument because its investment and will keep its value. Tudor? But I‘m simply not that deep into watches. € or $ 1000.- would be the highest price I‘m willing to pay for, well, such a profane thing like a wrist watch.

[@chrishunter9784]

The Seiko is a great watch. I have two dozen watches, some costing five figures, and my Seiko SKX009J has established a rooted seat in one of my watch boxes. Those calling it junk never actually held junk. Of course the Tudor is better done in every respect (except for actually getting the job of diving easily handled which both conquer no problem), but from my personal perspective, the Tudor is absolutely not 10x the watch. The connection to Rolex keeps the Tudor from being priced at $2000 like it should really be.

[@benkenobi6582]

I roll my eyes when watch snobs crap on entry level timepieces. It’s like they think it makes them look better when it just makes them look petty and narrow minded

[@Saints-Forever]

Sharing my personal experiences: I bought a preowned but still under warranty BB58 blue and as usual, I clean my all my preowned watches under tap water before using. Guess what? I noticed water droplets appear underneath the crystal overnight and immediately sent it in to RSC for checking and was told the seals on the crown is faulty and they replace them under warranty (I still haven’t got the watch back after 4 months now). I recently started buying out of warranty and preowned seiko skxs 007k/j & 009k/j (013k is on the way) and did the usual tap water washing without any issue. That tell you something about those cheap ISO6425 certified watches.

[@SharapovaFan]

The SKX normally just looks plain. But next to the Black Bay, it's downright fugly. The dated design is liked a lot by many though. But it's definitely not very sharp from a design standpoint. Wish you had something sharper like an Orient Ray II or Mako III. I honestly don't get the appeal of the SKX's design other than it looks vintage.

[@yusufbest4475]

Now, we must put it beside the bb54 and the sje093

[@amorembalming]

Hell yeah I want to see a review of your Omega.

[@yusufbest4475]

I like the skx as it has a very japanese feel to it.. some wabi sabi or japanese retro vibe. Besides, as a tool watch, it wont compete too strongly with my 114270..

[@bookofmillions]

It's like comparing a perfectly done steak with a frozen supermarket burger 😄

[@RickDeckardMemories]

Well that's a fair comparison! 🙂

[@juniorjohnson5961]

Yes the TUDOR is worth 10 times more !! Good luck with the channel !!👍

[@johandebondt5749]

As for the comparison... Mercedes vs Honda Civic isn't exactly fair is it...

[@FINEST-uz9ek]

Good comparison on your end that’s what it amounts to....

[@jd88gtr19]

Why is it the Honda Civic always needs less maintenance than the Mercedes? I'll bet money that analogy holds true here too.

[@wakawaka1976]

The second hand movement isn’t 10x better... But the Tudor sure is nice.

[@דןשלמה-ו7נ]

it's not only about quality it's defently about the movement, the movement in Tudor really 10 times better than SKX. nothing is wrong having SKX013. they are defernt style, me myself will buy SKX quartz movement and not the mechanical

[@timeintheuk]

Tudor over the Seiko but I do own both

[@duklyful]

First in house movement was North Flag

[@WatchesAndCars]

Yes you are right. It's basically the same movement as in the Black Bay (without the PR indicator) though . So before the MT56xx, Tudor have only used ETA. Perhaps I should have made that more clear. Regards GAW

[@zhihanlee2463]

The Seiko is 38mm Tudor is 39mm. Yet it looks like they are 5mm apart in diameter side by side. Dang!

[@sebastiandavies7321]

Zhihan Lee true on seiko website its 36 mm would be good to see a caliper measurement of the skx 13

[@icolater27]

The Seiko one looks miles better

[@dannemannen18]

7S26 is a lottery. Some have amazing accuracy and power reserve. Some don't.

[@dannemannen18]

@Abhi I know. I can't open my case back tough, it's stuck. Yes I have tools. But adjusting it yourself isn't 100% accurate

[@asianskywalker]

would the sarb033 match tudor quality?

[@nomansland120]

no

[@andrewhatton2774]

I have both, sarb033 is great at what it is and I love it, Tudor blackbay is miles in front on quality and presence.

[@WatchesAndCars]

While the SARB033 is a great watch with really good finishing for the money (one of the better watches around $500), it's not close to the Tudor BB in terms of quality unfortunately. But that's to be excepted as the BB is much more expensive. Regards GAW

[@Crazywaffle5150]

Lool nooo.

[@MrAbdhalla]

@R A The funny thing is that a used BB58 goes for the same price as a new one.

[@cysoto]

Both of these examples are great in their respective categories and comparing one to another seems like a bit of a stretch.

[@pedrosaenz2800]

Try Phoibos. After adding them to my Rolez and Omegas collection it is no posible to find a better option. Sapphire cristal 300m wr solid end links and bracelet automatic.... 2years warranty....best dayly beaters...

[@1114gabby]

Agree....Phoibos is a really great every day watch.

[@TheKestevon]

If Swiss made SKX013 they would put the same price as that Tudor watch

[@kcgfy81]

Where are you finding the BB58 for $3000? 😂🤣

[@nono9370]

K Chu everywhere?

[@drgeek100]

@@nono9370 show me.

[@nono9370]

drgeek100 i live in Norway

[@drgeek100]

No No if u can find it for $3000 I’ll buy it now.

[@jtra3440]

2x speed is preferred

[@carlosdelacadiz6658]

Both great tool watches but that Tudor is a beautiful time piece!

[@carlosdelacadiz6658]

@R A What??? I've never known any stainless steel watch rust, especially nothing Rolex makes.

[@carlosdelacadiz6658]

@R A Aren't you a cocky little internet twat. Like I said never heard of stainless steel rusting. An outer stem tube made of aluminum is no big deal,Tudor will replace during routine service. Try getting Seiko to replace anything, matter of fact the SKX wouldn't even be worth the service cost. Educate yourself with a book or life experience and stop depending on Google moron!

[@carlosdelacadiz6658]

@R A I bet you're some overweight middle-aged douchebag pretending to be tough and special,when only thing special about you is the Neanderthal hair growing on your ass!

[@ronaldtrepanier6606]

How do you compare a $300 watch to a $3500 watch?

[@dariusgwathney8055]

Found a Glycine Combat Sub (automatic) for around $300 and it's a much fairer comparison than the skx013 vs the Tudor. Come on man!

[@WatchesAndCars]

True, that would be a more fair comparison perhaps. But to find a Combat sub reliably for $300 is pretty hard from my experience. Basically anyone can find a SKX013 for under $200 reliably if you order it from Asia, and $220 from Amazon). Regards GAW

[@williamstalvey6920]

Dont, there is absoloutely no comparison whatsoever. APPLES VS ripped tomato

[@robbieyh]

Tudor is sweet!!!

[@lawrencelogan1565]

My SKX is quite accurate. Better than +/- 2 seconds per day.

[@MattD86]

Lol no way

[@Numb3r_47]

I would like to see a video of your new Omega!

[@drgeek100]

it is not realistic to get the Tudor for $3000 anymore...they start at around $4000

[@jonnieinbangkok]

Nice comparison...and why are most Scandinavians so fluent in English 😉

[@MrAdreer]

probably because we start learning english at like age 6-7isch :D

[@jonnieinbangkok]

@@MrAdreer Always so impressed.

[@WatchesAndCars]

Thanks! I'm far from fluent in english in my own opinion, but in general Scandinavians start learning english very early as MrAdreer said and we use it surprisingly often in everyday life. Regards GAW

[@JoseAntonio-ok4iy]

Não existe qualquer justificativa prática em comprar um relógio mecânico. Em tudo ele foi superado pelo relógio quartz. Portanto relógio mecânico é pura paixão e status. Relógios são praticamente a unica jóia do homem e mostram bom gosto, posição social, etc. Marcas de luxo são inconfundíveis. Não trocaria meu Seiko SKX 013 por um Tudor. Primeiramente porque o tudor não tem calendários. Segundo porque custam 12 vezes mais para fazer o mesmo trabalho ( skx 013 = $230,00 in amazon, jomas shop, island, etc). There is no practical justification for buying a mechanical watch. In all he was surpassed by the quartz watch. Therefore mechanical watch is pure passion and status. Watches are practically the only jewel of man and show good taste, social position, etc. Luxury brands are unmistakable. I would not trade my Seiko SKX 013 for a Tudor. Firstly because tudor does not have calendars. Secondly because they cost 12 times more to do the same job (skx 013 = $ 230.00 in amazon, jomas shop, island, etc).

[@sergelegault6027]

Such a timewasting comparison. Next, we will be comparing a Honda Accord with a BMW

[@bertkanne4572]

Unless you wear the same watch all the time or keep it on a winder when not being worn, extreme accuracy for a mechanical watch is irrelevant, imo.

[@vampolascott36]

Or you could just wind it every day even if you don't wear it.

[@robertspinks835]

Put a shiznit toxic nato on that seiko there great.

[@borjastick]

The Tudor will make you feel great when you wear it plus it will be worth more than the relative value of the Seiko in a year's time. So if you can afford one, and if you can get one buy the Tudor.

[@gianlucabassi8853]

Ist Omega 2nd skx 3rd Tudor

[@ΠαῦλοςΠαυλίδης-χ7θ]

Your Omega wasnt running?????

[@carllange3950]

I was turned off by the SKX’s non-hacking movement, although if it is off that amount in a day, why bother with hacking. I ended up buying an Orient Ray II, which is not a Diver’s 200M, but has a better movement with manual winding and hacking. Mine is running about +-1 sec/day. They can currently be purchased for $150. I think the Orients are finished better than the Seikos. I also bought a Citizen Promaster Diver and an Orient Triton, both Diver’s 200M watches. The Citizen is obviously more accurate than any mechanical and the Triton runs about the same as the Ray II. The SKX has too many deficiencies to compare well against a Tudor or Rolex. Compare the sub $500 Triton against a Tudor or Rolex and you’re left justifying the 7 to 15 times price difference based on non-functional differences. Ponder that a Submariner costs 50 times the price of an Orient Ray II. The price difference is maintained by one of the most bizarre free markets in existence. People will pay 15 to 50 times as much for the Rolex name. The wine market is similar. Cars are not even close.

[@WatchesAndCars]

Agreed! The Orient Ray/Mako is probably the best alternative to the SKX007. It got a bit better movement then the SKX as you said. This is pure speculation on my part, but the movement in the Orient is probably very similar to the 4r36 (NH35) from Seiko. And the 4r36 is very similar to the 7s26. When I had the Mako USA II I did love the watch but the case finishing on the SKX013 was perhaps a bit better. That is of course my own opinion. Why I compared the SKX013 against the BB was because they are both sub 40mm. People who are looking for a BB58 is probably looking for a 40 or sub 40mm diver. Both the Ray/Mako and the Triton is bigger then that. Other then that, the Orient is a great choice. Regards GAW

[@CaptainGeezer]

You didn't say China I hope.

[@snowstormtea]

I favour Pelagos vs BB

[@jonnieinbangkok]

Both great watches but completely different in design and materials. I'd like to have them both.

[@andyt6819]

Please don’t do a review on the omega, thank you

[@Hamzak786]

The power of branding is the difference

[@bertkanne4572]

You must remember that the Tudor has a sapphire crystal, better finishing and probably better accuracy and power reserve. Combined with the famous name it is easy to see the value in a watch that is 10x the price, right????NOT

[@billnyfeler]

Affordable? Yes. Fugly? Yes.

[@fredk6992]

The black bay?

[@hospitalcleaner]

Subjective opinion? Also yes

[@fungus70]

Both of these can't beat the turtle 😆

[@dannemannen18]

Visste inte att du var svensk 👍😀

[@jaym0517]

Should of compared it to orient mako I got it for £150 ( less than $200) and much better than skx

[@fredk6992]

Definitely not better on the looks

[@dandavid9983]

Crazy guys, how can you show a frozen watch?🤣🤣🤣🙈👎

[@abramwinne]

Yeap..i think ur omega is broken..

[@Ahmad-vw5uw]

The comparison is very unfair, the Tudor is definitely a far ahead better performer, in all respects. Tudor could only be compared against Grand Seiko.

[@derekshearer9049]

You call the skx a tried and true tool watch with a workhorse movement with the best bang for the buck in its price range. Huh. First and foremost a "tool watch" must have the best movement that can be made to fit the price point. The 7s26 is the cheapest, poorest time keeping movement seiko makes. In all fairness it can't be a tool watch because it can't preform its only function well. A quality watch and l don't mean an expensive one must keep reasonably good and consistent time. There are some skx watches out there that keep great time, that however is the exception not the rule. To have a dive certified watch with a bargain movement is like having scuba gear with second-rate pressure regulator. The skx is the lowest priced dive certified watch because no other company would risk lives on a dive watch with a dirt-cheap movement. It is pretty though. Cheers

[@ceori6399]

That does make a lot of sense, however i struggle to find any other midsized Mechanical divers with an unique design at around 300 dollars, my watches get scratched up because of my work, so i wouldn't wear anything much more expansive than that.

[@WatchesAndCars]

I do agree with some of the points you made. The 7s26 is a pretty basic movement and it's not the most accurate (from the factory). But the 7s26 is know to be very reliable. It can run for a long time without needing service, it can take a beating without breaking etc. Time has also tested this movement regarding reliability. That's definitely things that can qualify it as a tool watch/movement. You also said that it must have the "best" movement that can fit the price point. Keep in mind that you can find the SKX013 for as low as $180. From my experience the 7s26 is definitely the best/most reliable movement you can find at that price point, so what you said holds true for the SKX. Regards GAW

[@derekshearer9049]

@@WatchesAndCars. You didn't read all of my post it seems, if you can't make it well at 180 dollars, it shouldn't be made at all. I would never dive relying on a 180 dollar in house dive certified watch with questionable QC and the cheapest movement seiko makes. It's quite obvious you only look at confimation bias information regarding the 7s26. Cheers

[@WatchesAndCars]

I have owned a lot of Seiko's and I have never had any issues with them. I do know that there have been some issues with the bezel/chapter ring not aligning, that's why I thought it was important to mention it in the video. From my own experience regarding the Seiko's I have owned (many of them had the 7s26/7s36) I think they are well built and performed decently. Especially my SKX013/007. I think there is a reason why so many watch manufacturers use the Seiko NH35 movment these day (the NH35 is basically the same movement but with added hacking & hand winding. Very similar accuracy/reliability). Probably because it performs decently, reliable and easy to repair. So many people enjoy the SKX line. In my own opinion, I definitely dont't think they are of such a bad quality that they should not be made. Regards GAW

[@derekshearer9049]

@@WatchesAndCars. So, you have owned a lot of seikos. The question now is why? There is a guy on KZbin, l can't remember his name, he owns 5 blue seikos that look the same to me. Again why? You both love seiko, l get it, but to try and convince me it is a good value and a quality watch is not going to happen. Perhaps your KZbin name says it all, except great and affordable are mutually exclusive, maybe good and affordable. The 7s26 is comparable to the nh15/6 the nh35 is comparable to the 4r35/6. Place the nh35 in the skx, beef up the bracelet a little and put a sapphire crystal and you would have a good not a great watch. When people make purchases they often seek confirmation that they made the right choise and defend that choise much like yourself. Logic it seems is off the table. Good luck on your endeavors, l would consider stopping at 100 seikos and perhaps try another brand. Cheers