something else people need to keep in mind are these pcie hba cards are designed with server chassis in mind, where they would have tons of air blowing across their passive heatsinks, so it might be worth it to get one of those expansion slot blower fans next to them
@franzpleurmann25854 жыл бұрын
This should be upvoted way higher.
@CarloGaudreault4 жыл бұрын
I strongly recommend re-applying the thermal paste and adding a 40x10mm Noctua fans to your pcie hba card's heatsink. This guide helped me greatly! m.imgur.com/a/Coh1Zdr
@robertt93424 жыл бұрын
Something else you need to take into account is, How much are the drives being hammered in comparison to a server?
@BrutalGoerge4 жыл бұрын
@@robertt9342 True, but while it won't be under constant load, say it needs to start a resilvering task, then that could hammer it pretty hard for many hours depending on the size
@johngaltline99334 жыл бұрын
a 120mm fan mounted over the exp cards works well enough. In my experience the NICs get far hotter than the HBAs.
@KireTheCat4 жыл бұрын
fractal: only put in 14 also fractal: only put in 18 linus: why can i only fit in 16 also linus: hey so we got 20 in
@Helin0x994 жыл бұрын
Amatures, go get a lian li 343b
@Woodenspade4 жыл бұрын
Idk, I think they should've just said, it fits 14 in one area of the case and the other 2 were probably intentional. Linus just used space meant for other parts for more hard drives, which is pretty fortnite epic.
@nomsky47194 жыл бұрын
you dont think he would actually read the instructions and think before starting? where is the fun in that? :)
@martincerveny22844 жыл бұрын
@@Helin0x99 Twice time larger case with 18 bays only? Woaw. Lian-li is a joke.
@gucky47174 жыл бұрын
he put in Drives, where the back fans would be....or top fans
@thefantasyhero4 жыл бұрын
finally a worthy contender for my "Homework" folder.
@ThatRoundFops4 жыл бұрын
Laughs in yottabyte
@djaydeved4 жыл бұрын
i had one of those "homework" files i called it Z archive, it was in appdata. reason why? because it would show up at the botom and was stealthy enough for me. yes i had a few layers of sub folders. and then all da prons
@PeterCulka4 жыл бұрын
you mean "Culture"?
@PapaFunDip4 жыл бұрын
i think you mean my "homework" 10 tb pc
@Simracer19904 жыл бұрын
When it falls asleep before you can get all the way through...
@AldasGri4 жыл бұрын
Fun fact, those blue cables you used to connect drives to SAS card can be bent any way you want, you can bend them full 180 degrees and make them completely flat - they will not break. :) These are the cables we used in datacenters to connect 1U 4 drive backplanes to the raid cards, it is virtually impossible to break the cables!
@tobeywan83313 жыл бұрын
I wanna see it in action
@hongockimquang19943 жыл бұрын
DUDES! You just DONT challenge Linus to BREAK anything!?
@foc22412 жыл бұрын
@@hongockimquang1994 except u want it broken haha XD
@fresh95302 жыл бұрын
what if I saw them
@Vatharian2 жыл бұрын
I have literal 10-foot container of these cables broken in datacenter I work in. I have a feeling they break if you look at them wrong. I have switched to red Amphenol cables for both 8087 and 8643 and never looked back, altough there are some specific servers they have trouble fitting in since cable armor is much thicker.
@ghostly95483 жыл бұрын
Finally, enough storage for Call of Duty Modern Warfare.
@IPONJ4 жыл бұрын
Linus "320 terabytes!" office "yeah!" 2 days later Office "we're out of space."
@shouldent4 жыл бұрын
Very inefficient business if you ask me...
@Josh-oj6jx4 жыл бұрын
shouldent it’s holding 4K video or higher pretty sure Linus said they input everything into software at 8K the file size on a video of even 15 minutes would be insane so 320 terabytes isn’t really an unrealistic thought for his team to fill that space in a few months
@Josh-oj6jx4 жыл бұрын
shouldent filming in 8K every minute of video is 6GB
@CyanDumBell_MC4 жыл бұрын
Tho, unused footage should be deleted or archive in a zip file to save space.
@Josh-oj6jx4 жыл бұрын
shouldent like the average GB amount for 90 minutes of 8K is 15,000 GB
@rubuntux4 жыл бұрын
Basically, every Linus video is about to build a PC so he can edit videos about building the pc for editing those videos about building a PC for editing on it
@mccarthyp644 жыл бұрын
When you get an arts degree at uni so your only job opportunity is lecturing at a uni to arts students
@nakyer4 жыл бұрын
@@mccarthyp64 Don't forget house painting.
@samiraperi4674 жыл бұрын
And 10 million subscribers happened because it all got a bit out of hand.
@arieloq4 жыл бұрын
Maximum Recursivity
@weeksweeks95524 жыл бұрын
Theres a STONKS meme here somewhere
@JustinCooper-w4c4 жыл бұрын
Ohhhhhh so they’re doing this video so they don’t have to send back the drives they got from seagate for their server
@IngwiePhoenix_nb4 жыл бұрын
Yes. xD And they are stiiiiill not done :D Expect more HDDs being thrown around...
@robertt93424 жыл бұрын
Probably need to make a few videos to justify the "sponsorship"
@radicalxedward80474 жыл бұрын
Celliaright 1 Linus said that was the plan in that first video.
@thamerrro42344 жыл бұрын
Big brains move
@jamescruz86784 жыл бұрын
_stonks_
@brandonakey66162 жыл бұрын
Unraid doesn't just start at the ease of adding drives and expandability. From (a lot) of experience, it is extremely stable and resilient. It can survive failed flash disks, (I had it run almost a week WITHOUT ISSUE with a flash disk the OS was on that wasn't even reading anymore) One day I opened up the UI to find Unraid was basically like "oh by the way, your flash disk isn't reading anymore" lol. I've had a failed motherboard, failed RAM, moved all drives to all new hardware and it's always just turn it on and it works. Failed drive? Put a new one in and hit OK. It's not just simple, it's dead simple. Speaking of simplicity and ease of use. I could rant alone on just the Interface alone. The UI just makes sense. Just running dockers alone is a couple clicks. They're curated, documented, updated, and supported.
@quantum5661 Жыл бұрын
okay, you've just sold me on unraid. that is exactly what i wanted in nas software.
@crocrash320 Жыл бұрын
As someone who is building my setup now (migrating my Plex to a standalone NAS/server), would you recommend runnning unRAID as a VM on Proxmox or unRAID bare metal? In addition to using my new build as a NAS, it would be nice to have the ability to run Ubuntu and Windows VMs, in addition to Docker containers. Forgive me if this is a dumb question.
@brandonakey6616 Жыл бұрын
@@crocrash320 Unraid has native VM capabilities, Currently running my gaming VM running Win11.
@bizkurt99 Жыл бұрын
Bruh, i don't have the hardware yet you made me to want to buy the unraid 😂
@blahblahblah1787 Жыл бұрын
@crocrash320 Unraid does all of that bare metal with one caveat: you can use GPU with containers or a VM but never both at the same time. If you have a Plex container utilizing a GPU for transcoding and then try to start a VM with GPU passthrough all hell breaks loose. If it is a dedicated homelab machine then you'll be fine. If dual purpose be prepared to add and remove "--runtime=nvidia" from a lot of docker containers any time you want to switch between the two.
@anonymousvlogsprivate70904 жыл бұрын
That moment when he said budged nas and then puts in 9k worth of hard drives
@toast48993 жыл бұрын
Significantly cheaper than a mid range Nas setup, if you want less storage just put it in your main pc
@anonymousvlogsprivate70903 жыл бұрын
@@toast4899 im aware, because I'm building a very similar setup only with the 6 TB drives and just like 10.
@MitgliedT53 жыл бұрын
he didnt said hw high the budget is ^^
@HyperScorpio86883 жыл бұрын
@@Maisonier 64TB Nimbus Data ExaDrive NLs at 12k each 20 of them no less
@Shadow-ig3hf4 жыл бұрын
Had a bit of a nightmare.....dreamt that Linus was reading instructions.
@sopcannon4 жыл бұрын
Will never happen.
@curt88064 жыл бұрын
No he just calls and asks his real IT friends who can configure networks and NAS. Linus can’t even run an all ssd network without having it slow down to 10MB/s
@AmericanHothead4 жыл бұрын
Mine was he does the voice over work for calm.com
@danielkaiser83434 жыл бұрын
My mechanical hard drive is faster
@SteS4 жыл бұрын
*RTFM* Recycle the fucking manual.
@Lokiks4 жыл бұрын
15:22 "I don't know, but it has my name on it." All of those water bottles have your name on it Linus. Peoples underwear also have your name on it.
@Mp57navy4 жыл бұрын
Totally not gay.
@acubley4 жыл бұрын
Gee, that's gonna help me sleep tonight...
@shitposter6954 жыл бұрын
Lokiks lttstore.com??
@Lucas_van_Hout4 жыл бұрын
Toy-joda just put a no homo disclaimer somewhere and it will be fine.
4 жыл бұрын
lttstore.com
@user-le4bx1jw3f4 жыл бұрын
Fractal: 14 mounting brackets max Linus: So anyway, I started mounting
@matthewr7804 жыл бұрын
More drives Linus MOREEEEEEEEEE
@WarriorsPhoto4 жыл бұрын
I felt the same way. LOL
@criticallycheesycaleb66814 жыл бұрын
400 likes ur welcome
@ghostboy40914 жыл бұрын
9:38 I thought he was opening an ultra wide laptop 😂😂
@DigitalJedi4 жыл бұрын
That would be a very wide boi.
@Kian004 жыл бұрын
Wait so what actually was it?
@ghostboy40914 жыл бұрын
@@Kian00 The front panel to the case
@MohdAkmalZakiIO4 жыл бұрын
you're not alone.
@legomeisterlp43754 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@nigelsalaz4 жыл бұрын
This is a cool video, I really like how reasonable the stuff in here is, I think the hard drives are probable the most expensive individual items. Keep it up y'all.
@jowsey4 жыл бұрын
Linus: 320 terabytes in one case! **looks at my pc** My pc case: *Don't even think about it.*
@cekpi74 жыл бұрын
Wallet: Yeah, keep dreaming
@flammable38444 жыл бұрын
Bank: You are not eligible for loans
@bersK004 жыл бұрын
Wife: You spent how much for a stupid 16tb hdd??
@benjaminnicholson31364 жыл бұрын
@@nux3960 your point is?
@Dracossaint4 жыл бұрын
Do it
@Rararawr4 жыл бұрын
"Unraid costs money" Does $129 really mean much when its connected to $9600 in drives?
@1tothe2the34 жыл бұрын
The drives are free, so yeah.
@max_9554 жыл бұрын
Aaron Ennis Also people shouldn’t cheap on drives
@sujimayne4 жыл бұрын
It does for people who might be building it with $500 in drives.
@PWingert19664 жыл бұрын
compared to a total build cost of $USD14,000
@ward7voter1114 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. If I'm spending $10k (drives, case, motherboard, power supply) to build a NAS server, why wouldn't I purchase UnRAID and why would I INTENTIONALLY choose to skimp out and go with software RAID. Spend a few extra bucks and buy hardware RAID controllers and an license for UnRAID. I also laughed when he called it a budget build. If this is his idea of a home user building on a budget, then we aren't living and working in the same economic circles.
@raegreen28354 жыл бұрын
A video I'd like to see is the systems and setups in some of the LTT guys homes. Jake mentioned he has a setup with his Plex server and other VMs and such. It'd be cool to see what they have set up in their systems and why.
@SteS4 жыл бұрын
This is the perfect time now that they're all at home.
@niaomipeck4 жыл бұрын
You're in luck with the Intel Tech upgrade videos!
@U1TR4F0RCE3 жыл бұрын
@@niaomipeck at the same time the tech home upgrades are kind of limited we didn’t see anything about how anthony sets up linux with arch and all that
@adambg023 жыл бұрын
3:58 Great placement of the gun loading sound effect.
@vitor9000004 жыл бұрын
That is the most complicated way to build a oven i ever seen. 4:01 LMAF When i saw that HDD mounted on the exhaust fan place :D
@realcartoongirl4 жыл бұрын
linus: """budget""" also linus: 20x 16tb drives
@DaemosDaen4 жыл бұрын
I know right.
@irispettson4 жыл бұрын
He did make a pretty good argument about the base build itself being a good starting point and then adding more drives as you go and need to grow the storage.
@PWingert19664 жыл бұрын
@@DaemosDaen %CDN800 x 20 = $CDN16,000 = $18,000 with taxes chassis $US1000 x 1.34 exchange = 1500 with tax so $CDN19,500 or about $USD14,000
@PWingert19664 жыл бұрын
If I was really Speccing this out I would budget $CDN20,000 cause of things like the HBA Adapters which I didn't price in and I would throw in a couple of SSD's.
@Ancyker4 жыл бұрын
That is still budget. The pro grade of this setup runs about $60,000 from Dell.
@neoqueto4 жыл бұрын
My boss, at my previous workplace, where I edited at least 1 video a day: "Why do you need another hard drive? You have two already!"
@s.i.m.c.a4 жыл бұрын
well, he is partially right - you dont need the third one, just replace the ones you have with bigger capacity =))
@neoqueto4 жыл бұрын
@@s.i.m.c.a my boss was a she. Of course, I would have loved that. But why not keep the old ones, it's not like they're completely useless? Oh, and get this... We had a marketing/media department of 4 people, we did video, graphics, photo editing, I even did 3D, webdesign, web development (!), store management, some with backups... and, despite my numerous pleas... not even a SINGLE NAS. I got pissed, bought a Cat 6 crossover cable from my own pocket, and hooked all PCs in ring topology. We used to generate at least 15 GB a day. I kept finding extremely creative ways to store all of this crap.
@bananya60204 жыл бұрын
good thing you left!
@mrmotofy4 жыл бұрын
@@neoqueto Whaaaaaaat, you bought a cable out of your own pocket...OMG
@TheFibie0074 жыл бұрын
@@mrmotofy It was really not hard to understand and yet you missed the point...
@namenamename3904 жыл бұрын
Linus: "budget NAS" Also Linus: *16TB IRONWOLF PRO*
@SmartK84 жыл бұрын
He forget to mention it's NASA budget (not NAS).
@blairfleming58614 жыл бұрын
seagate sent them extra by mistake so he had to use them in a video or send them back but he should have at least lowbrow mentioned a descent alternative for people who don't wipe their ass with gold leaf lol
@namenamename3904 жыл бұрын
@@blairfleming5861 I know that happened, but they really shouldn't have claimed it was a budget version while using the top tier equipment they just have lying around
@xcbrr504 жыл бұрын
But total cost would be cheaper than those 2U rack storage tho
@churblefurbles4 жыл бұрын
lol $10k right there
@leelightfoot35473 жыл бұрын
Linus I would really love to see a behind the scenes of your production process for prepping new video ideas, writing scripts, camera setups, production tools and pipelines (video editing, upload tools, software, how you automate your build process). There are quite a few of those videos out there, but not from technically minded individuals. Kind of a day in the life of making a video like this one, and then maybe a followup video show the software to promote your videos and costs associated with it. Your videos are great because you put a lot of thought and give your reasons for why you consciously made the choices you do.
@DylanMarkTwo4 жыл бұрын
Wow, finally something that can store Call of Duty Warzone!!
@BigCleverName3 жыл бұрын
AND Cold War... Maybe
@mastapdog4 жыл бұрын
"Budget" is the only word Linus can't say enthusiastically.
@DobermannJeff4 жыл бұрын
🤣
@PWingert19664 жыл бұрын
In this case your BUdget better be about $USD14,000
@RealCGH4 жыл бұрын
Like I don't feel poor enough compared to him
@666Tomato6664 жыл бұрын
oh, you have a cheaper way to put 320TB into a single case? sure, $1k is quite a bit of money, but you really can't do it cheaper
@PWingert19664 жыл бұрын
@@666Tomato666 You could use 20Tb SSD's for a premium experience.
@VolcanoPenguin4 жыл бұрын
System without the storage: $1,000. Alright, not bad. System with the storage: OVER $10,000. How much does the storage cost? Ask Vegeta.
@bootsyz33434 жыл бұрын
Vegeta, what does the scouter say about the storage cost?!
@largeboi6324 жыл бұрын
who is vegetea?
@SergeantShrimp14 жыл бұрын
Linus - "We can call it good at 20" ~Hard Drive mounted over fan exhaust
@JakeDaBoss184 жыл бұрын
Oh dang I didn't notice that. Probably a bad idea
@lawrencedoliveiro91044 жыл бұрын
He had it running flat out, and the temperatures seemed OK.
@tls58704 жыл бұрын
He may as well throw 20 more in there and water cool the drives now
@ZenMasterStu4 жыл бұрын
I recently turned my old gaming machine into our home's NAS server (plus a printer server and calendar server, but yeah, whatever). It works great. Plenty of room to expand, no shortage of RAM or CPU power when we need it, and no worries that we'll hit the ceiling two years from now when my daughter suddenly decides that saving every moment of her life captured in HD on her phone is the most important data we own. Thanks for always being awesome!
@pepijnkrijnsen44 жыл бұрын
"This thing is obnoxious... I mean in a good way" perfect description of most on-camera LTT employees
@simonnohlmanns9524 жыл бұрын
Linus: Always screw your drives in propperly Also linus: Mounts drives on fan mouts
@LayerCakeMakes4 жыл бұрын
I don't know why it was not mentioned but those are special mounting brackets made by fractal meant for just that, so still properly mounted. Source: www.fractal-design.com/products/accessories/universal-multibracket-type-a-2-pack/black/
@thomasjensen15904 жыл бұрын
No no... it is... screw with confidence
@Dquags4 жыл бұрын
@@LayerCakeMakes Now if only I can find a damn website that sells these and lemme tell you what, i haven't found a single one that sells this
@MrFloRolf4 жыл бұрын
Linus: always screw Your HDD's in correctly! Also Linus: mounts HDD to Fanspace.
@cyberhopser42314 жыл бұрын
To be fair, mounting drives in fan places is an option intended for this case, it even comes with the necessary mounting brackets
@aye79284 жыл бұрын
bruh linus be like Hey guys, I just got divorced and im really sad, but before I get into detail, heres a word from our sponsor!
@bl00dknight263 жыл бұрын
no, he is exactly it
@metaldreams35953 жыл бұрын
oh nno! he got divorced from the asian girl? I hope not
@sodadrinker893 жыл бұрын
@@metaldreams3595 No, he didn't.
@poppypeppa01863 жыл бұрын
“PBC Lawyers LLC is a great Company to get the perfect divorce lawyer. With the link in the discription you get 10% off your next divorce“
@Vesiot4 жыл бұрын
"It can accommodate up to eight..." "yeah..." "TEEN. hard drives."
@user-hn2wc3fy7y2 жыл бұрын
I do 3D work, video editing, and run a photography business with thousands of RAW files a day sometimes. I should probably cut down on my affinity for 8K timelapses but I'll just watch this video instead.
Intel dead inside Linus drop outside *Intel theme*
@SeanMRoberts4 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see a build video focused on audio production for a change. Most of the tech channels focus on video production, but audio has a different set of priorities.
@nohbodyhughno11213 жыл бұрын
THIS
@jkasturias3 жыл бұрын
TRUE! As an amateur sound engineer, this would be really awesome. So far the closest I've seen is from Neil Parfeit, who was actually referenced in a previous video on LTT (the rack mounted mac pro)! Videos about audio production are few and far inbetween, far as I can tell.
@anakinlowground55152 жыл бұрын
Well, you just need a good microphone if you want to do work in audio production, and a good program for editing and mixing that audio.
@SeanMRoberts2 жыл бұрын
@@anakinlowground5515 If you're just doing minor home recording, sure. But there's a lot to consider for a pro audio setup and the priorities change quite a bit from gaming focused builds. GPU doesn't matter but for lots of quickly accessible storage and as much ram as you can get become extremely important for stable recording, playback, and fast access to sample libraries, or running higher track counts with real time processing plugins. There's also the consideration of add in cards for many of the higher end audio interfaces and ample USB ports for all the various license dongles that many plugins require. There's also some setup involved to get windows to operate with more stability to avoid playback hiccups and artifacts in your recorded audio files. Ultimately, I just think it would make for an interesting video to have a PC build with a completely different set of priorities than the typical run of the mill gaming or video rendering machine.
@sntslilhlpr66012 жыл бұрын
@@SeanMRoberts That sounds a lot more interesting than I expected. Audiophiles don't get a lot of love. I recently watched the tech upgrade where the guy spent over half of his budget on a receiver and it was glorious... except for the fact that literally no one can hear what they were experiencing... Maybe that's the problem. KZbin audio is not that good so even if they had the expensive equipment necessary to showcase it it wouldn't quite show a difference. ...Or maybe it's just a lot more profitable to market enterprise server gear to random people instead of some super duper audio stuff. These drives cost $400 each right now and they're a hell of a lot more likely to have some random sysadmin or network engineer watching than some audio tech in hollywood. This is all pretty niche and 99+% of the people watching are never gonna buy the enterprise crap, but the audio side is quite a bit further down that rabbit hole and they aren't looking to buy a thousand of them.
@bradkuntzelman53434 жыл бұрын
Linus: I don't want to use unRAID :lists reasons: Linus: *uses unRAID*
@franzpleurmann25854 жыл бұрын
The whole video seems rushed and not very well thought. I was very confused after his arguments against unraid and no further explaining.
@robertt93424 жыл бұрын
Franz Pleurmann . I wonder if it's a result of their workflow, and maybe they need to rethink how they develop videos?
@CyborgKilNonx4 жыл бұрын
Robert T doesn’t he have to use all the hand drives for projects or he has to send them back?
@animemaniac24 жыл бұрын
RAID SHADOWLEGENDS!
@weeksweeks95524 жыл бұрын
I think Jake couldnt figure out how to set up proxmox for this build
@DankSwampRebellion4 жыл бұрын
Long time fan thanks for all the tech tips been a long time WD user however after seeing that seagate drive might have to upgrade our own DIY server now.
@chuckthetekkie3 жыл бұрын
There is more than one version of the Define 7. The regular 7 can hold 14 where the XL can do 18 with space for 2.5" drives too.
@Byrthor4 жыл бұрын
You posted this video hours after I finished moving my server into the 7 XL. Great minds think alike
@ArturoTabera4 жыл бұрын
8:50 ...cable ties... LTTSTORE.COM how could you miss that? 15:15 There's my waterbottle! LTTSTORE.COM how could you miss that?
@Miles300s4 жыл бұрын
They put an info bubble pointing to lttstore.com instead of saying it aloud.
@CommanderTato4 жыл бұрын
@@Miles300s my favourite one is one in a recent video when we see a small thing flying onn screen fast, or the infamous linus on boxers xD
@polski_dezerter4 жыл бұрын
lttstore.com
@caramelldansen22044 жыл бұрын
only LTT fans would ask to be shilled at more!
@NineEyeRon4 жыл бұрын
LTT 👏 Store 👏 Dot 👏 com
@ShoelessJP4 жыл бұрын
15:18 Missed the opportunity to plug lttstore.com there Linus.
@matthewnichols424 жыл бұрын
(softly) Don't
@Smack0r3 жыл бұрын
Just bought this as a universal one device solution to keep my house heated in the winter. Thanks!
@DesertCookie3 жыл бұрын
Got the Define 7 for my home server and am loving it. More room than I'll ever need, excellent cable management, and generally the most pleasant building experience I've ever had. It's smaller than my be quiet! Silent Base 800, it looks better (IMHO), it's easier to transport (should the need arise), the airflow is better, and it's a lot more quiet! Thinking about getting the Compact version for my main PC, though there is the problem of where to put my Blu-ray drive...
@Intelwinsbigly2 жыл бұрын
Is it still more than you would ever need?
@DesertCookie2 жыл бұрын
The Define 7? Well, I already have nine drives in it. More than would've fit in my be quiet case. And there are still more to come.
@Bane_Diesel4 жыл бұрын
I have a full size case and I made a custom drive holder for my 38 terabytes of storage and I thought that was insane enough. This is just nuts.
@OverdriveTech4 жыл бұрын
Yeah mom, the 320TB folder is my homework folder
@ExperienceCN4 жыл бұрын
Just create a new folder in a new folder in a new folder...
@hito48634 жыл бұрын
Thunder Life true.
@cajmo86354 жыл бұрын
@Thunder Life 320 terabytes is too small
@ARandomInternetUser084 жыл бұрын
@@cajmo8635 I think we need 320 *yottabytes*
@dimitriosmartin14774 жыл бұрын
Linus: "I ha e no more storage slots" Linus' mind: "f**k it I'll use the fan mounts"
@busteraycan4 жыл бұрын
I did that too actually. Got a very small case and couldn't find a place to fit the 3rd hdd in.
@666Tomato6664 жыл бұрын
"Hmm, the drives not in official holders are toasty" suprised pikatchu face.jpg
@jakobfindlay41364 жыл бұрын
Hard drive mounts line up with fan mounts wtf ?
@Rainbow__cookie4 жыл бұрын
Next on ltt Linus: I watercool all my hdds
@ArtumTsumia4 жыл бұрын
Fun video to see considering I just picked up a Define R6 for more or less this purpose. Doesn't hold quite as many drives as the Define 7 XL, but the use case is going to be mostly just storage and ostensibly streaming. Not sure how I'll config everything just yet as the original plan before I saw these cases was to simply turn my old components into the server but I can probably turn this into a workstation that doubles as a server to the rest of the network. Wouldn't be the best setup in a more demanding network environment but seems reasonable here.
@adityaaurora98694 жыл бұрын
And it'll be completely full with just the footage from this video XD
@cgraham64 жыл бұрын
LTT: Now uploading in 16K!
@oofig4 жыл бұрын
Eggs dee
@conqu3red5454 жыл бұрын
Can we maybe have a NAS that has a small budget for the average consumer please Linus, like seriously is that what is called budget? This says it’s budget and he spent £10K on hard drives 🤔
@Rawrroar500014 жыл бұрын
Lol I was about to say "budget" ain't what 320tb sounds like without even watching the video I know that's some bullshit
@BanditLeader4 жыл бұрын
Buy 4 HDDs. Slap them into your pc. Use unraid. Problem solved.
@harithizzuddin4 жыл бұрын
It's not even budget anymore
@SteelSkin6674 жыл бұрын
Well he isn't calling it budget, I'm about sure it's supposed to be overkill. If you want to make a budget version of this, just... use less disks.
@helplmchoking4 жыл бұрын
Literally just chuck some HDDs in your machine, setup unraid and you’re done
@chris-tal4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for reminding me that HBA cards and "octopus" cables are still relatively cheap! Also you can go without a VGA card at all. Linux naturally supports ttys redirected to serial ports. You just have to reconfigure your installer's GRUB or use preseed instead. I guess every UEFI has PXE or BOOTP support nowadays. It's not for just the server market anymore.
@NefariousTV4 жыл бұрын
I knew I could count on you guys... Spent 3 hours looking into what I should build and didn't get any closer to figuring it out until I finally went, "wait, let's see if linus has made a video on thi..ooohh my God there it is...." 😂
@NdxtremePro4 жыл бұрын
So, the Define 7 is the one with 14 drives max, the Define 7XL can hold 18. It also has 2 additional 5.25 bays, and there are adapters for those to turn them into 3 3.5" bays, so a max of 21 before you start using Linus' fun tasks.
@nickiebanchou4 жыл бұрын
"Unraid, Freenas, Proxmox, or whatever else" whatever else is called *OpenMediaVault* dammit!
@ddbrosnahan4 жыл бұрын
Use your NAS at LTX 2020 for LAN to have popular games already stored local.
@tuttocrafting4 жыл бұрын
Only downside its the lack of SSD caching using something like bcache. You can do it by hand but you need cli... and not all the people want to handle with that!
@nickiebanchou4 жыл бұрын
@@tuttocrafting well you got a linux kernel running either way so if i had to choose between fiddling a little bit vs relying on quirky USB-stick-centered licensing, imma fiddle :D
@firefly24724 жыл бұрын
Been using omv for 5 years now ? Wanted it for storage but plex to for al my media. First on a old dell desktop for 3 years. Never got problems with it. Then a new 2018 build with 8 2 tb drives. That one did have a lot of software/hardware problems. My fault. After a reboot it would just close the system down and you could not get on it anymore. After a lot of troubel i did finaly find the problem. TIME, jupp that did couse so much troubel. It took the bios/motherboard time as the corect one. But when booting omv saw the online time diverent so what did it do ? Close everyting down and do nothing anymore. Solved that, never got problem with it anymore.
@nickiebanchou4 жыл бұрын
@starshipeleven you can use OMV on top of Proxmox anyway :D
@badtoast2914 жыл бұрын
Finally I can download every single Minecraft mod
@HelixAdamOxford4 жыл бұрын
Not even close. Maybe a petabyte might be enough
@Bigfoot_With_Internet_Access4 жыл бұрын
Aw man, now the bigfoot hunters are going to have enough space to store their blurry images of me
@X2yt4 жыл бұрын
Well, at least someone is happy with all them McDonald's restaurants every two feet, you can steal shitty WiFi from more places.
@FluffieWolf4 жыл бұрын
That really sucks, solidarity!
@Dong_Harvey4 жыл бұрын
Does that put Linus on the FBI watchlist?
@dmsalomon Жыл бұрын
For those attempting a zfs build at home ignore Linus's warning about raid cards and his recommendation for hba. You probably do want want a raid card, but make sure its IT mode (passthrough). These are cheaply/widely available, and work great with zfs.
@danlench4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for using Proxmox! I was lucky tond grateful to be a reviewer on the first edition of "Mastering Proxmox" now on it's third edition and available online! keep it up Linus and team!
@TooFurious44 жыл бұрын
Me: Sends in drive for recovery service. Seagate: Hey man, your drives are all full of pirated movies.
@znoozi4 жыл бұрын
"easier than ripping my physical copy, bro"
@graciouscompetentdwarfrabbit4 жыл бұрын
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@TooFurious44 жыл бұрын
@@znoozi Physical copies arent free 😎 - This comment was made by the Remux Gang
@kian83824 жыл бұрын
Considering the 2GB/s (16Gb/s) bandwidth limitation between the CPU and b450 chipset, it's best to use all the PCIE lanes available from the CPU itself, meaning the first m.2 and x16 PCIE slot for connecting storage and network adapters.
@sethinman72064 жыл бұрын
4:46 I don't think you're focusing on saving money with 320 tb's of iron wolf pros.
@EliteSniperTV4 жыл бұрын
What if you needed the space, and wanted to save money? Lol
@danieledg944 жыл бұрын
@@EliteSniperTV Just buy the western digital my book and pull out the drive.
@RealKanashii4 жыл бұрын
Yes if they are free.
@EliteSniperTV4 жыл бұрын
@@rhymfaxe thank you. I didn't want to explain all that ffs everyone's got a gotcha
@EliteSniperTV4 жыл бұрын
@@danieledg94 the drive. He has 20. How is this similar?
@zedekai94563 жыл бұрын
Lol, Chia mining gonna make this video blow up
@LifeLofty3 жыл бұрын
bruh.. i got wet when i saw this
@aquavorte38963 жыл бұрын
@@LifeLofty OMG!!1!
@hbyfu3 жыл бұрын
GTA V System requirements: Must be atleast 100 GB free Linus: y e s
@OwentheKingofDudes4 жыл бұрын
When you decide that you WOULD download a car...
@thijsvdzwan4 жыл бұрын
Linus: Gets way to many hard drives sent over by Seagate. Also Linus: I don't wanna send those back so lets use em all!
@headonna4 жыл бұрын
One thing in the price breakdown of this to consider. The consumer version of the case only comes with 6 drive brackets for 3.5inch drives. You need to buy any additional ones after that.
@emosp0ngebob4 жыл бұрын
this is like the 5th video y'all have done on this topic and it gets better and more concise every time!! 10/10 one gripe i have with LTT is the semi-rushed state of a lot of the videos, but y'all have done this one so many times you've gotten past that and are now just being super informative. Love it!
@Stephen84544 жыл бұрын
One fun thing when I first started building PCs was filling all the slots. So this right here!? Yessssss!
@ДаниилРабинович-б9п4 жыл бұрын
4:15 why is "скорость", which is "speed" in Russian, written on the motherboard?
@AlzainAli4 жыл бұрын
There's a whole bunch of stuff in different languages in the motherboard. Asus makes some weird design choices sometimes 😂
@MonsterMoveOfficial4 жыл бұрын
тоже осадило, долго понять не мог меня накрыло или это на самом деле
@ДаниилРабинович-б9п4 жыл бұрын
@@MonsterMoveOfficial а почему не оба варианта?
@ДаниилРабинович-б9п4 жыл бұрын
@@neues3691 хорошо, сегодня был первый день второго семестра в универе
@Evexin4 жыл бұрын
Даниил Рабинович commenting so i can look up what y’all said later lmao
@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep4 жыл бұрын
3:00 I know that feel. My boot SSD is currently zip tied to my chassis
@MichaelSanAngelo4 жыл бұрын
mine is just jammed into wherever I can put it. XD
@tamilashultz96763 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelSanAngelo like one of the optical bays? :)
@BrokenHeart0004 жыл бұрын
*“All your TB are belongs to us”* is the intro title of this video. I'm only quoting the intro title
@jonbondMPG Жыл бұрын
3:57 slick AF, but proof that when Linus drops a $1000 worth of hardware he's in character 😉
@rustyshackleford51664 жыл бұрын
My nas runs a core 2 duo 3GHz with 4gigs of ram. Works fine for 1080p video. It doesnt do anything special, it's just a windows 7 box with a share folder i can access. Works great and i cant imagine anything would be any better considering it has gigabit and goes around 115 MB/s anytime i access it. If i had anything faster, there would be no really big gains to be had.
@johnmillerjr36464 жыл бұрын
My bank account just looked at me, and said..."Not gonna happen, bruh..."
@Goodman-45253 жыл бұрын
Did you need 320TB of space?
@sarahrau14414 жыл бұрын
He’s kept referencing this video and they FINALLY upload it
@other24944 жыл бұрын
3:15 Me who kept my SSD completely loose inside my case: **looks away**
@hero96104 жыл бұрын
and i am the one who kept unscrewed drives togather after watching this is remember week ago my drive was missbehaving 🙂
@Derpynewb4 жыл бұрын
ssds are solid state. They're resiliant to vibrations by default.
@ApothercyCold3 жыл бұрын
Awesome, I need this. My Plex server case has seven 8TB drives and I was just about to build a NAS to expand it. Now I can get this case instead, hooray!
@hdtvkeith16043 жыл бұрын
Great video, a few observations. 20 drives while nice you are killing airflow. I use the newer Meshify 2 XL and I run 6 SSDs and 12 HDDs so I don’t interfere with airflow and thus has fans directly blowing over all the HDDs. LSI cards are great and if you shop around on eBay you find 9260-16i at great prices. Another big thing when using LSI cards is they were designed for servers with good airflow. I run 2 92mm fans on a fan bracket blowing directly on the LSI cars or the heat will kill them prematurely. My oldest servers were running 7x24x365 for 5 years until I just upgraded everything to what I mentioned before. Also run Windows server and the native LSI software. The LSI software will email you with failures, warnings, etc. and you can schedule disk patrol and consistency checks to make sure the disks are healthy. I run Raid 6 and 4 x 120mm fans up front, 4x 120mm along top and the. 1 x 140 in back. I use a Ryzen 9 3900X 128GB of RAM and I run HyperV with about a dozen VMs. The larger your hard drive the longer a failed drive takes to rebuild when failed. With Raid 6 I can take 2 drive failures before it is an issue. I have 1 drive assigned as a hot spare so if a drive fails the rebuild starts immediately. Because of the Meshify and all my fans I can run fans at ~800 rpm and the drives run about 31C nice and cool.
@toxicityCA4 жыл бұрын
for a second, i thought the title said 320 *petabytes* and i wasn't surprised
@EnvAdam4 жыл бұрын
1:22 - I actually want this case so im happy to see more videos on it.
@ApxuBbI4 жыл бұрын
I think you can get R6 much cheaper, and get almost same quality/options as new one.
@Guuggel4 жыл бұрын
@@ApxuBbI But this is the XL version. R6 doesn't have XL and the previous XL is very old now. That being said. The side panel attachment withotu screws is kinda stupid.
@stobe1874 жыл бұрын
@@Guuggel I think there is an option for securing the side panel with screws if you want to.
@ApxuBbI4 жыл бұрын
@@Guuggel Ahh, didn't saw that.
@Btomaek4 жыл бұрын
Linus: “everyone panic buy a pc” Also Linus: “a budget pc with parts I told you to panic buy”
@Miles300s4 жыл бұрын
This is more of a sever/NAS than a PC
@Btomaek4 жыл бұрын
@@Miles300s still a "budget" build with parts that aren't cheap because people are panic buying them
@Miles300s4 жыл бұрын
@@Btomaek Well, considering that getting a prebuilt enclosure in this capacity is $5K - $60K (without drives!), I would indeed say this is a budget build for *4K/8K Video Editing* file storage. Linus even says that you only need to start with two drives of your choice and add more as need be.
@Btomaek4 жыл бұрын
@@Miles300s you don't get why it's ironic Linus is telling people to buy hardware because of the event happing in real life, later he makes a video about the parts and the parts are off a pcs that he told everyone needs to panic buy making the cost of the parts higher, making this video more expensive than when he filmed it
@Miles300s4 жыл бұрын
@@Btomaek Do you expect LTT to just *not* make videos about PC hardware? The way you've phrased the situation is a self-fulfilling prophecy.
@lordcarnorjax85994 жыл бұрын
I built a UNRAID NAS / home media server in a Define R5 because at the time it was a readily accessible case that could hold a lot of 3.5 & 2.5 drives. I used a Supermicro board because it has dedicated IPMI and dual Gigabit network interfaces with a LSI SAS HBA to run all my drives. I run 4 docker containers for a music DLNA server, UniFi Controller, MariaDB & Splunk. Plus 2 VM's for PiHole and TACACS. It's a great system and the Define 7 XL can hold even more drives so it could me a upgrade path for me when I start running out of space.
@twistedtechnology4 жыл бұрын
I built a similar system to this a couple of years back. I used a CaseLabs Mercury S8 which I think I can squeeze about 24-28 3.5 inch drives into. I ended up using StableBit DrivePool instead of FreeNAS or Unraid. It has some advantages (it is just NTFS so your files are super easy to recover if something gets borked) and some disadvantages (it is not very space efficient because it writes every file to two drives) compared to them but it works great for what is mostly just media server usage.
@PapiSmerf4 жыл бұрын
"All your TB are belong to us." Bringing back the memes from 1999, be fresh like bellbottoms were then. Damn I'm getting old.....
@emptyangel4 жыл бұрын
SHOOP DA WHOOP IMMA FIRING MY NAS SERVER
@klaxoncow4 жыл бұрын
It's an old meme. But it does check out.
@TheSlayerN4 жыл бұрын
I love Proxmox and prefer it over XCP-ng or oVirt when it comes to virtualization and containerization. But we don't have to pretend that it's a NAS replacement. FreeNAS(TrueNAS), Unraid, and OpenMediaVault have tradeoffs between them. But I'd much sooner push someone towards any of them for something like this, before bringing up Proxmox.
@DxCBuG4 жыл бұрын
But you could run openmediavault as a vm if you just run ext4 or lvm raid right? That would only suck for btrfs or zfs. If you can pass through the complete disk controller even this could be just fine
@Spiral6SM4 жыл бұрын
And technically you could use OpenMediaVault with underlying Proxmox kernel and ZFS too so... eh.
@shanemshort4 жыл бұрын
I think the entire "it's not a NAS" thing is a bit overblown. Any *nix OS is a NAS, if you configure it appropriately.
@conqu3red5454 жыл бұрын
Linus says this is a budget nas. Oh and just to mention his budget is like £10K. And that is just the hard drives.
@HCPriest4 жыл бұрын
Don't worry... afaik he didnt pay for them! :D If i recall correctly, seagate sent like 3 Petabytes worth of drives in 3 shippings because the first 2 shippings of 1 petabyte HDD harddrives weren't ratet high enough for "use up to X drives in 1 case"... nice first world problem to have ^^ EDIT: and he werent allowed to use all 3 Petabyte of storage for the petabyte project so he had to use them for other projects otherwise he would've to send them back to seagate***
@АлексейГриднев-и7р4 жыл бұрын
You don't have to use those 16 TB drives to build a similar system :) 20 hard drives of 1-2 TB each will cover any possible amateur / enthusiast needs.
@conqu3red5454 жыл бұрын
ShadeNoahGames exactly my point
@maebh984 жыл бұрын
It's budget for that amount of storage
@nadkudo17984 жыл бұрын
sometimes I wonder if people even know what "budget" means... or actually watch the video... smh
@jamesbelding29504 жыл бұрын
Apparently Linus got every fractal hard drive tray on the planet. Don’t buy this case expecting to add trays, they are nowhere to be found. Thanks fractal.
@kodefashmodefa4 жыл бұрын
Rewatching this after the 4/1/2020 video, i can see it all. Its all so clear to me now.
@Harlson134 жыл бұрын
Haven't been this early since old-house-Linus
@kazuto_in_black3324 жыл бұрын
Harlson same
@benjaminnicholson31364 жыл бұрын
@@nux3960 3rd time I've seen the same comment and still couldn't give a shit
@ARandomInternetUser084 жыл бұрын
@@nux3960 oh yeah sure, whatever you say bud
@nux39604 жыл бұрын
@@ARandomInternetUser08 stfu
@TECHN012004 жыл бұрын
When you got your water bottle from Dennis, I was expecting the mandatory "LTTStore.com" BUT nope...
@Miles300s4 жыл бұрын
They put an info bubble pointing to lttstore.com instead of saying it aloud.
@gordonx1454 жыл бұрын
when Linus got to 16 drives i heard " Tim the Tool man voice kick in ." 3:51
@joshhardin6664 жыл бұрын
10:39 "Why not just use freenas" *linus lists all the reasons he isn't using unraid for this project* (freenas is honestly the way to go if you want to set up a robust, easy-to-use, storage solution with zfs, particularly if you care more about storage and storage-related containerization vs. proxmox. configuring zfs with proxmox is significantly more hands-on and has very few if any graphical storage configuration options for zfs compared to fully graphical very easy-to-use setup designed specifically for zfs on freenas.
@JoeVSvolcano3 жыл бұрын
FARM THAT CHiA LINUS!
@LividCode4 жыл бұрын
"My water bottle! you bastard" highlight of the video :D
@prabhanieliyanage68604 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the man building the best PC for a school students homework folder
@tanongmo70953 жыл бұрын
chia network is waving
@ThunderBlastvideo4 жыл бұрын
fractal design rocks! Best case manufacturer ever!!!!
@ahloo69204 жыл бұрын
I don't understand half of what they're saying but it's still fun to watch XD