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[@davidanderson9664]

Fascinating as always. I think this is one of your best, Dissenter. Thx to Prof. Swaab. He's a classic, his "brand" is PubMed. That's Boss on a higher level. No twatter, no faceplant, no social (disease) media: Just "Pubmed" and his 17 language translated books. A+ D.A., J.D., NYC attorney/writer

[@rodrigopascual2465]

Congratulations for this very interesting interview. Professor Swaab is a remarkable scholar in neuroscience. I read the spanish edition of their interesting book "Somos nuestro cerebro". Amazing. ¡Thank you Professor Swaab!

[@colinfdunphy3994]

This was excellent, thank you both very much

[@silviosanchez3635]

Bro, such a great work. Congrats for the both of you

[@anthonycarbonaro7890]

Very excellent presentation.. 🙏

[@sergioanimus]

Ricardo and Dick, thank you for this informative video on such an important topic of our humanity. I am grateful for people like Dick Swaab whose scientific work will certainly help humanity push forward for a more inclusive, diverse, and scientific society.

[@danielle.krekels]

Dr. Swaab makes it clear how sexual orientation and gender identity is already installed in our brains before birth. And thus why it is short-sighted to discriminate or judge these aspects of human diversity.

[@ambientjohnny]

Even if it were true, so what? People are STILL either male or female.

[@vegaa1]

I've read that studies that suggest trans people have brains that correspond with their preferred sex identity are confounded by same-sex attraction, self-perception dysmorphias, preexisting hormone therapy, and/or undefined terms (e.g., what is the distinction between (1) females who like "manly" things but don't identity as transmen and (2) females who identify as transmen because they like "manly" things?). The phenomena of people who identity as nonbinary, gender-fluid, agender, male/female at different times of the day, along with anorexia and body integrity identity disorder may be evidence that the trans-brain hypothesis is confounded by other forms of self-perception dysmorphias and undefined terms/concepts as I mentioned earlier. Would a male who claims to be agender and happens to have some "brain parts" of a female be misidentifying himself given that he should be identifying as a transwoman according to the trans-brain hypothesis? Moreover, how do proponents of the mosaic-brain theory reconcile ideas of a "female" and "male" brain? Here's a KZbin video of a relatively in-depth critique of trans-brain studies: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iqC3fZ1ra6-Ej5Y

[@deajar-davidlazer8678]

A person may not know the nuts and bolts of their own biology which would correlate to the findings of the study and try to justify their existence by saying things like “I like manly things”. This doesn’t dismiss the study but exposes the individuals lack of education about their own condition. They do often say “I don’t know why, I just feel that way”. but you also have to be aware that a human is a psychosocial being and susceptible to conforming to social constructs or expectations as to what role a man/woman performs in order to be accepted in society. The underlying biology suggests these individuals are not male or female but somewhere on a spectrum between. There is no social construct appropriately reflecting that biology so they are identifying with and conforming to whatever role closest fits the brains biology. There seems to be a problem at the moment where younger people are being influenced and identifying with ‘trans’ because of the attempt to normalise it so that it is safe for them in society. The kids are going through a turbulent time of maturation and self differentiation and because they are navigating feelings of not belonging they see ‘trans’ and think maybe they are one of those. This is a separate issue to the genuine condition and we shouldn’t dismiss either. We can propose two opposing hypothesis and notice that both may actually be true. Thanks for posting the link. I like to see a few perspectives cause it can help point to something a bit more accurately.

[@2020Bookworm]

Isn't his sister a lesbian? It says online that she was born on September 29, 1944.

[@maxmetpt]

Great timing! I've only came across Dick Swaab a couple of days ago - through Greg Egan's Cocoon short story.

[@lau-guerreiro]

Thanks for that. I had no idea there were proven differences in brains of transgender people.

[@karasprouse595]

Yes that are DI two MORPHIC changed. So no non binary.

[@michaelyounes29]

These are theories not fact

[@jero4059]

@@michaelyounes29 and the thing you said is a theory not a fact

[@michaelyounes29]

@@jero4059 Yes Bro!

[@insidiousmischka]

There are no proven differences.

[@tomhummel2641]

Very interesting, but the captions (auto-generated text) are so many times wrongly "translated". The sound quality for hearing-disabled persons could be better. Some important expressions gets lost, unfortunately. Transcript, please!

[@apocalypse12345]

Im homosexual, i was gender noncomforming as 5 years old of my life .dick swaab discried my early experience. How to know if that has to do with transexualism or homosexuality.

[@KevinBaird75]

Curious if there are things the woman during birth may be doing or not doing causing things to happen unfavorably where identity doesn't match for newborn.

[@deajar-davidlazer8678]

The woman’s not necessarily doing anything but there’s speculation that exposure to ingested, environmental chemicals maybe interrupting her own hormonal balance. Another factor maybe stress. The foetus gender development is not the only thing that is being affected. There are many anomaly’s. There has been an observation in sperm decline and also testosterone interruption in both men and women in the past 50 years. Everything we do that pollutes and goes out of balance with our environment reflects back on us as a species naturally because we are intrinsically linked with it. Even though the exact causation for the condition isn’t known it is a safe bet to say all developmental anomaly’s are a reaction to environment, lifestyle, diet and even genetic ‘chance’. It’s not beyond probability that some instances are chance mutations.

[@tomhummel2641]

Any other support-alternatives than Patreon? (ThIere are indications that Patreon also behaves like a censorship for free speech.) EDIT: Information appears at the very end of the video.

[@pearltears8039]

What does boys likeing cars and girls likeing doll more.. Have anything to do with Sexual orientation or gender identity???????

[@crossroads670]

because gender nonconformity is a common trait of homosexuals in childhood, which appears to emerge from a biological basis.

[@AnaCamila101]

They are embracing gender stereotypes. It's horrible.

[@karasprouse595]

@@AnaCamila101 NO that is the way kids are. this is not a stereotype. It is the way the brain works

[@garyperdue9616]

If he is a teacher/instructor he must put a lot of his students asleep with that monotone voice.

[@karasprouse595]

NO he is a neuroscience research medical doctor. No one that is a medical student falls asleep during lectures.

[@Sulucnumoh420]

We just gonna ignore that this man's name is Dick Swaab?

[@durschfalltv7505]

i dont get why people talk about gender and shit. Like You either got xy,xx or xxy. Who cares about the rest. You arent born with an identiy. You arent born with prefrence. Its something that will imerge. Thats my best guess. I dont think it could happen otherwise. Why care about being male or female. I just wanna frick with things that attract me. And i dont care what they are when it comes to sex.

[@sweetpotatopie9832]

You're not a scientist lol

[@durschfalltv7505]

@@sweetpotatopie9832 and you apparantly can't read.

[@deajar-davidlazer8678]

Sexual biology has way more factors than xx, xy , xxy. Humans are predominantly psychosocial beings so their neurology and resulting psychology will override their genitals. It’s important to know about this because it suggests that human sexual biology is a spectrum not a rigid binary. Our previous understanding of sex would appear to have been incorrect.

[@moriahmars1462]

People talk about gender identity because it's a neurological phenomenon that somehow got politicized. Chromosomes, although they somewhat affect the formation of whether or not you feel male, they aren't the main driving force to why people feel comfortable socializing and/or sitting alone as the gender they're currently labeled. Dick Swaab's work shows that the brain and genitals differentiate in sex independently in two different trimesters of pregnancy. Gender identity is proven as a mental sex dimorphism by the neuron production in the bed nucleus of the stria terminalis. Those with a male gender identity very reliably grow twice as much neurons as those with a female gender identity regardless of hormone replacement. Brains and bodies are complicated, and sometimes they don't match up with each other. It's similar to how most peoples' hands inherently have different levels of coordination, hence left and righthandedness. The brain doesn't match up with the body.

[@durschfalltv7505]

@@moriahmars1462 Soyence is dumb. Like when it comes to humans we know shit. We make a bunch of dumb and probably wrong assumptions. Reality is people should stop being so full of themselves and get a purpose in life. That's my quest at least. If you want to explain stuff to me please put it in laymens terms. Can you explain to me what determines gender identity?

[@michaelyounes29]

"The Dutch neuroscientist is as celebrated as he is sneered at for his theories on brain development differing between men and women - and how sexuality is decided in the womb"

[@GautsLauren]

The Guardian isn't a scientific review bro...

[@deajar-davidlazer8678]

He happened to come across the anomaly while he was studying Alzheimer’s disease. He had no previous interest in it and no personal bias. He’s just following the evidence.

[@moriahmars1462]

@@deajar-davidlazer8678 Do you have a source here you could share? I'd actually love to share this around

[@deajar-davidlazer8678]

@@moriahmars1462 I think it was a written interview I came across years ago when I was heavily into trying to trace the possible origins of the condition. I’ve no idea where that is now but I will post if I come across it again. I’d love if someone did a more recent interview into how the hypothesis was formed before he did the research. I vaguely remember it being about Alzheimer’s research as he was searching through the brain tissues and noticed it. Sorry I couldn’t be more help but I’ll keep an eye out for it.