AR7200BX / HobbyWing ESC Throttle Calibration (FreddyCanFly)

In this video we cover how to calibrate your HW ESC with your beast x system. This FBL system has a delay in start up that causes in issue with entering the throttle calibration. However this video will show you have to correctly calibrate your HW ESC to your flybarless system.

[@jimmyd4092]

Listen I don't care how old this vid is. I have been out of the game for awhile and you saved my life. It works. Thanks alot. You are the man.

[@belalugosi2894]

Thanks Freddy, good info. Followed your procedure with IKON 2/BRAIN 2 with success.

[@33forsaken]

Thanks for the nice comment, I am currently working on the rest of the series :)

[@adammegandavis]

Freddy, you could use a servo extension and remove the positive lead from the extension that way your not risking damaging the connector on the ESC throttle lead.

[@33forsaken]

Yes this is also a great idea buddy, thank you for sharing it for the rest of us :)

[@rtoebak76]

Buddy, you made my day, smart thinking.

[@stevebrown791]

Thanks for a brilliant video. Followed it all the way through and it worked fine - EXCEPT for one thing, i.e. my throttle hold didnt work. It reduced the speed but didn't stop it completely. Spent ages trying to work out why this was and re-did the procedure several times. In the end realised that that the throttle trim on my DX7 has to be a mid point. If you have the trim all the way down (which is what I though you were supposed to do with electric helis), then the throttle hold doesnt actually hold!

[@marcellob.8893]

Glad you worked this out Freddy, you’d think following the Align manual and an Align/Enteprise Hobbies video would get you results but no, just frustration. I don’t know how the heck you figured this out but thank you. You’ve helped us all so much in the past but this video here is gold. Anyway, I followed your instructions and things are now working as they should on the bench. I’ll be taking my Trex 500X out for my maiden flight today thanks to you.

[@33forsaken]

Hey buddy wow thanks so much for the kind comment, that's what makes the videos worth all the work :)

[@marcellob.8893]

@@33forsaken The maiden was a success! 👍🏻

[@poker8193]

Your videos rock. I have been stuck on this exact problem all day. I forgot I watched this months ago

[@michaelmetternich6350]

Freddy thank You so much, extremly helpful for me as Spektrum Pilot using MIKROBEAST I got alredy krasy, while I culdent get the corekt setup for my HobbyWing Controller. Realy great Job and it works perfekt! Best regards from Germany MIKE

[@Daz86]

Freddy your the F@#king MAN! I was scratching my head and scouring the interweb for this information, with no luck. This video sorted me out in minutes! Thank you as always! (Futaba pilot) Looking forward to new content

[@alwatt9367]

Brilliant work Freddy I always learn from you on each video much appreciated again al

[@33forsaken]

Many thanks

[@KentandHanni]

Wow needed this thanks Freddy

[@timdoyle8199]

Great video Freddie thanks for the tutorials With controls and flying also... awesome ! THANKS for the help !

[@33forsaken]

Glad to help

[@timdoyle8199]

@@33forsaken I've got A Trex 450l kit that comes with the micro beast , it will be my 1st build , when it comes time to setting up the micro beast maybe I can get some help from you if I need it ??

[@beauluftenburg3167]

Hey Freddy! I am about to replace my stock ESC in my trex 470 due to failures. I’m going to order a 60 HW. I have watched this video many times I ordered programming box, extra 7.4 batt. But I have heard people say they don’t have to do this procedure. I’m going to do what you’re video shows plus gov calibration step. Wish me luck I will let you know how it works once it is installed. Thank you so much Freddy you are such a huge help.

[@33forsaken]

Shoot me an IM on Facebook if you need any help buddy.

[@jeffwilliams409]

Awesome video. Been fighting this on all my builds over the years. Thank you sir.

[@stevenbryk9347]

By the way all settings A-M in the AR7210BX were set and working well. I hit send before adding that. Thanks again

[@33forsaken]

Check my reply buddy I hope it helps.

[@larrychamel]

Another Incredible video Freddy! You have received quite a few negative messages about building this particular Helicopter. I didn't mention the name before and I will not mention it now. Having said that; People look at the wealth of knowledge that WE have all gained from this particular Build video. 1) When assembling the Frame, you do not loc tite every bolt right away. 2) Perfect ESC Installation and running the wires. 3) A Beautiful Installation of Servos showing wire routes, tips & tricks with Braided Wrap & Heat Shrink. 4) Showing the necessary steps when using a Hobbywing ESC with the Beast X or Spektrum AR7200BX to properly Calibrate the ESC. Freddy, I'm sorry about all the grief you got when you said you were going to Build this Heli but I am very Happy that you kept your word like a Man, and have shared this Amazing Build with Us! Thanks Freddy, you're the Best!

[@33forsaken]

Hey buddy thank you so much for the kind words, as always I am here to help with any and all products I can get my hands on lol.

[@oussamasmaini7297]

Thank you so much. You just saved my day

[@33forsaken]

Freddy to the rescue lol just playing so happy I could help :)

[@zahidwadud8875]

Very Helpful

[@timdoyle8199]

That's exactly what I'm gonna do With a servo extension wire,,when I get home from work Tonight

[@33forsaken]

Let me know if you need any help :)

[@bobwatson6558]

Freddy i have a 120amp esc and i will be using the bec on the esc. If i do the calibration you point out in this video do i need to go to the field to do a spool up at 50% throttle for 15 seconds to calibrate the esc. Ill set up the esc with a program box. Thanks for your help. Hope your doing well love your cat video.

[@GAment_11]

Very informative. Thank you. One question-when the system is calibrated, when the esc gets just above its minimum throttle input (say 25% throttle), the motor wants to slowly spin up with increasing rpm-even when still at 25% throttle. Then when I decrease to 0% throttle-the motor turns off (which is good). Summary: It appears the throttle input either turns the motor on or off, without in between throttle values changing rpm. Is there an obvious reasons for this? Thanks again. Your video series is great.

[@33forsaken]

This is because of the GOV feature built in. it will not arm the throttle until it reads a set amount which I do believe is 25 percent or more then the GOV will activate and hold the set RPM values. And then of course once lowered down to zero or below that threshold it will then disarm. I hope this answers your questions correctly

[@tomatwalden]

@@33forsaken I've followed the video and it seems to work OK (2nd hand heli by the way). I get the two beeps and lower the throttle. However, when I plug it all back in again, the motor doesn't start until I've given it over 40% throttle. Is this right or wrong? I assume the previous owner had the governor configured - could this be why?

[@nealjag3917]

Thank you Freddy

[@jrb8081]

Nice video.

[@33forsaken]

Thank you :)

[@RotoRCol]

hi Freddy I have a minivbar and a platinum 120 v4, using a futaba sbus receiver with 8ch ports available, is it better to connect the esc signal wire directly to the minivbar or to the receiver throttle channel? I plan to use the internal governor of the esc and I am note sure if the response is equally fast and note sure if it is possible, because if you connect the esc directly to the receiver, you wouldn´t have this issue of the flybarless incializing

[@cagefreecleric1834]

Good but I don't hear the two beps to calibrate throttle , I will try with my hobbywing , thanks for video.

[@33forsaken]

Some systems (most) require you to provide power to the FBL first then power the ESC and calibrate. In these cases you just remove the red wire lead from the ESC to disable the BEC and then you have only throttle signal. After you have calibrated insert the red pin back into the connector and you are good to go.

[@OzyOzySM]

Can this sec be calibrated twice ? I think I mess with the radio, after doing all the steps and calibrated good, I turned the radio while the TH thick up!! Now every time I plug the battery don’t give me the correct tone counts!! 😢

[@33forsaken]

yes you can just repeat the new calibration and it will save the new settings

[@gdhall5311]

Really nice info Freddy. I think that you have already mentioned this but do you set your servo arms by just powering on the heli and then put them at 90 degrees?

[@33forsaken]

Well yes and no, you have to power up the Heli for sure but depending on your FBL system you have to enter the programming and use the specified menus in order to center your servos. So basically its done in programming and not just by providing power on start up.

[@Itzalwys1420]

I will definitely be watching this video soon!! Freddy, gotta couple questions for ya .... So I have a T-Rex 500L dominator right and crashed it the other day to the point I have to get a tail boom and the torque tube. I was thinking of making it into a 500x by putting the larger tail boom on it but understand the stock tail box won't work. If I was to get a rear gearbox for the 500l do you know if it till work or do you know?? Second question, if it will fit can't I just use all new 500X parts and make it into a hybrid with a longer tail than the dominator?? Also was Planning on upgrading the motor and ESC too. That's why I said I'll be watching this video real soon That's about it .. lemme know what you think. . thanks in advance!

[@33forsaken]

Shoot buddy it will basically come down to the cut outs in the frame basically. You would have to look up the specks for the new gear box and see if its the same as the old. In most cases I would say yes however I do not want to steer you wrong.

[@Itzalwys1420]

@@33forsaken I'm gonna just get the X tail block and see what if any difference between the two are . If the only difference is the opening for the tail boom I'm golden!!! Thanks for the reply!!! I'll let you know

[@ms888]

Freddy, many thanks for your wonderful videos. I have a problem with trottle range calibration on my Trex 650X 6S: i am using: ESC BL 130A (defolut align which is the same as Hobbywing), Futaba 6303 SB receiver, FLB Bestx 5v. to avoid delays I connected out BEC (red and black) on CH system channel of FLB, Trottle signal on CH3 receiver, Sbus receiver on Aux channel FBL system, trottle curve flat (0-25-50-75-100). when calibration starts (maximum throttle stick) 1 - the motor emit 3 quick notes and after two short beeps; 2 - stick at the bottom I hear beep bep - pause - short beep. I do not hear the 6 beeps of the number of cells. I can solve by setting n. 6 cells by align box programmer (at point 2 of menu) Would you have any advice for me? Thanks for your attention and greetings from Italy.

[@33forsaken]

Are you making sure that your ESC lead has the Wire wire disconnected before connecting it to the receiver or FBL ?

[@ms888]

@@33forsaken Hi freddy, Thanks for your attention and for the reply, I tried 1) connect only the ch3 (motor) of the receiver which takes power from the same wire with the + and - terminal, to the ESC, 2) add power only to the wired receiver from Esc on another channel, and the ch3 always connected, unfortunately it doesn't give me the 6 beep. Tks for any helps.

[@stefanluehrsen7631]

Hello freddy, did you connect the capacitor to the regulator? Or do you fly without ... greetings from Germany

[@33forsaken]

Hey brother greetings, so I have not use the Cap pack and I have had zero issues. I don't this I can load up the esc enough to need it.

[@charlesgalloway8120]

Great video. I have an align BL130A which seems to be almost identical to the Hobbywing. I want to use an align gpro fbl which needs me to set the throttle to 100% on their software which on my transmitter (frsky horus 10s) relates to about 86% on the transmitter. Is this low reading on the transmitter going to affect the calibration of the esc? Is the esc going to expect 100% from the transmitter. This is the first time I will use a governer on a model.

[@33forsaken]

As long as you calibrate the ESC to see 0% at low stick and 100% at full your good. Typically most ESC that have a gov will have a calibration process as well. Once done you just use flat curves to depict the RPM ranges that you wish to use.

[@trux2133]

Hey.. really helpful videos.. quick question on this topic... my esc appears to be programmed however I had to reverse "servo" in transmitter since I must have done it backwards... Now I have no idea how to re calibrate it.. Ive tried this method in your video , however its not working.. i e also set the servo back to normal but it doesnt work. Any thoughts?

[@33forsaken]

What model esc and FBL or receiver are you using? in a lot of cases you need to remove the red wire from the esc and provide power to the system first. Once bound up then you can power the esc and complete the calibration. Basically you have to disable the BEC by pulling the red cable. Also make sure your TC is linear as well.

[@P222RL]

hi freddy, why not simply connect the receiver directly to the ESC first without the gyro and do the calibration first ?

[@33forsaken]

Yes you need to have the blades on because it will also cal for the rotor disk load for proper rpm.

[@RotoRCol]

if I am using a receiver, is it possible to connect the signal esc wire directly to the receiver throttle channel and the slave cable to the flybarless and fly the heli like this?

[@johnblythe6453]

Hiya Freddy i am building 500 Align pro + not quite sure where the speed controller should be placed could you help ? bye the way i am 72 yrs old OMG such small screws !!! great video,s

[@33forsaken]

Ummm usually the ESC will go up front on the nose plate either on the side or on the top. I would just google some images for some guidelines, I don't think I have any videos for that exact Heli.

[@johnblythe6453]

@@33forsaken Thanks Freddy the ESC is fixed under the battery mount with plastic straps not a lot of room

[@matb2505]

Hi Freddy, hypotheticaly if i was to be using a flat throttle curve my whole flight would calibration be necessary? I nevet fly with standard 0 25 50 75 100 curve. F mode or nothing, thanks dude

[@33forsaken]

No matter what you need to do the calibration on the HW esc for proper use. You also have to do the 50 percent spool up sample to calibrate the gov. And then yes you can use any flat curve above 40 and the Gov will keep your rpm in check. Using a liner throttle curve is really not a practical way to fly a Heli and is really used for setting up stuff.

[@very9000]

Somehow telemetry can tell me in advance that it's time to land the helicopter, is the battery discharged, or is this not provided for?

[@33forsaken]

I am sorry I do not understand your question. Are you asking if telemetry can detect a low battery so you know when to end your flight?

[@very9000]

@@33forsaken Yes, you understood everything correctly, but I found the answer. V-Bar Control notifies how much charge is on each battery bank. This is programmed in the ESC SCORPION settings 🦂

[@danielyates2460]

Im putting a new hobby wing v4 60 amp esc on my trex 470 .tying to figure out where to plug the 2 s lipo battery in ???does it go in the sys port on the very end slot of the micro beast plus ?? thanks for all your great videos .very helpful for new guys like me :)

[@33forsaken]

I take out the double redundancy connector (if you have two) and use that port. Its usually and AUX of some sort, I think you can also use the Bind slot because of the power bus on the system.

[@beauluftenburg3167]

I have to do the same with my 470 how is yours working did you get it?

[@trux2133]

Is is normal to have to reverse several servos in my transmitter? I have 5 reversed? I have ail elev throt gyro and pitch?

[@33forsaken]

Usually with most FBL setups the reversing is done in the FBL system not the radio. This of course does not apply to every setup, but honestly it does not matter as long as everything is working as designed per the manual then it is what it is. I have usually found though, that you should not have to reverse more then maybe one servo on the cyclic.

[@rtoebak76]

When i build these helicopters and copy to another friends same remote, do i recalibrate again? Never had any problems, but was thinking out loud.

[@33forsaken]

I personally never copy models but if you do yes make sure everything is calibrated correctly.

[@poker8193]

I got the 650x I’m building what size battery you running in your 700? Do you think I could run two 6s in parallel ? I know you can do two in series for 12s Would the weight over ride the run time if I ran two packs parallel ? Just fishing for opinions and ideas

[@33forsaken]

I used 5000 man 6sell packs for 700 class helis. if you wanted to run two I would probably drop down in mah a little so as not to be to heavy.

[@rtoebak76]

I was always using an opto esc😄, with bec seperately. But doesn't the pc give throttle high and low calibration?

[@33forsaken]

HW does not need a PC just the simple throttle stick calibration and your all set.

[@stevenbryk9347]

Thanks Freddy, what settings do you have in the hobbywing before you do this? Linear throttle, elf governor, store governor or fixed wing? Are there any other settings. I have a trex600, with hobbywing platinum 120a esc and AR7210BX. I tried this several times and could not get the endpoints set. I thought I did and the motor wold make the normal start notes but would NOT spool up. Nothing. I turn governor off on the AR7210 ( set step (N) to disable and run end point calibration and it works just fine. I can’t figure this out. Any help would be welcome. Thanks pvtpil8

[@33forsaken]

Hey buddy so yes if your going to use the GOV from the HW you do not need the GOV menus active in the beast. Also make sure you do not connect the yellow wire for external gain. I use the GOV Store mode and do the 15 second spool up to get the mid range read out. This will calibrate the GOV of course (working on a video for it). For the throttle calibration it only needs to get the signal read out of a linear throttle curve, the ESC setting will not really effect it. So do the throttle calibration first, then go ahead and plug in the data terminal and do the programing for the ESC. I hope this helps.

[@33forsaken]

Hey buddy so yes if your going to use the GOV from the HW you do not need the GOV menus active in the beast. Also make sure you do not connect the yellow wire for external gain. I use the GOV Store mode and do the 15 second spool up to get the mid range read out. This will calibrate the GOV of course (working on a video for it). For the throttle calibration it only needs to get the signal read out of a linear throttle curve, the ESC setting will not really effect it. So do the throttle calibration first, then go ahead and plug in the data terminal and do the programing for the ESC. I hope this helps.

[@chris-ip4pk]

Freddy is this done with throttle hold on or off

[@33forsaken]

throttle hold should be off.

[@kennethewald712]

It didn't matter if I removed the power wire. Still got the annoying beep

[@28EduardoSierra]

What heli is this so I can pick up

[@ronaldjones8797]

What is the big issue and negative comments about the Tron heli? I don't get it.

[@33forsaken]

Just people out there in there clubs that want to hate lol. It is by far one of the most amazing helis I have every built and flown !!!

[@ronaldjones8797]

@@33forsaken I'm still waiting for some info on your merch. And for the logo blades for my 230sv2. Please and thank you.

[@garykirsten4519]

hi can some one help me please ,im changing my reciver to my spirit2 fbl and when i change it just beeps all the time and nothing happens ,can any one hepl me ,changing from a futaba 2001 to a futaba 7008 reciver

[@33forsaken]

Hey buddy I made a setup series for the sprit 2 but its for spectrum. if it does not help reach out to Thomas Sprit on FB and he can help.

[@671JK]

Can this process be applied with the microbeast plus as well?

[@33forsaken]

Yes they are similar they just have a few different menu options. But the process is the same.

[@wettewabandara8494]

for some reason i cannot choose the options in the esc with throttle ... any idea why?

[@33forsaken]

Can you clarify what you mean, are you saying you want to program the ESC using the throttle stick like older ESC where you basically answer yes or no? Or are you saying you are having a hard time calibrating the ESC?

[@wettewabandara8494]

Freddy Cordova I’m having hard time calibarating the esc

[@ace-gc5xm]

I did a throttle calibration but it's only spooling up at 50% ...what am I missing ? Yes I'm on a linear throttle curve.

[@kf3432]

Did you ever figure it out?

[@ace-gc5xm]

@@kf3432 been I while so i don't remember ..but I would so yes..because I been flying my trex 500x

[@33gate1]

Hi Freddy, after doing this my motor will only start to spool at 41%, do you have a solution for this?

[@RotoRCol]

that is normal using internal governor

[@ronaldjones8797]

Haven't seen a new video from you in a while. And you said you were selling 2 of your helis. You're not getting out of it are you? That would be a great loss to the hobby and to all of us less experienced pilots that needs help.

[@33forsaken]

Nope, I just get new helis and make the videos and then move on to the next one lol. If I never sold any I would have way way to many to keep around.

[@airbrainaerials]

i just tried this on my HW80a and got all the right beeps but i still need to raise my throttle to 43% to get motor to spin.

[@33gate1]

I have the same, motor only starts at 41%, have you sorted this out? And could you let me know what you did please?

[@rohanpreetsingh6451]

Will you please help me with my t-rex 550x. please man I'm a beginner

[@33forsaken]

What issues are you having ?

[@renixcharles3826]

Do you have an email that I can reach you at? I need help with my 200a opto

[@33forsaken]

I can try to help out, usually FB messenger works the best.

[@43SunSon]

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