3413 Truck Drivers That Work For TMC Will Get Fired For Having Long Hair 🤯 Truck Driver Fired!

[@MuthaTrucker]

thoughts? Was this about safety? Or did the driver get singled out?

[@kg_4125]

Discrimination is what it is. Show me where you can not have locks as a truck driver. Sad

[@TheGoatReo]

I called them before I applied because I had already heard it was a “secret” issue. The lady told me it was a liability/safety issue for them. So I didn’t apply with them. I knew not was B.S. or else every flatbed company would require the same thing. I even asked if I kept it done and styled in a way that was not hanging loose she said “it didn’t matter” 🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️ I felt better for not working for them with that logic

[@BaxterBlue]

It's hard for me to comment when we are only getting one side of the story.

[@franklackie2469]

No. The company probably wants their drivers looking respectful I totally agree

[@TheGoatReo]

@@BaxterBlue call then and ask the rep if they have a hair policy

[@Hilaskomai]

I previously worked for TMC and am also black. They have strict grooming policies and these policies are explained in detail during orientation. There were some in our orientation class with dreads who departed the company because they were not willing to adhere to TMC grooming standards . You weren't fired because of your race, you were fired because you refused to adhere to the policy.

[@jamesranes3703]

Even UPS had variances for grooming/appearance when it was required.

[@makeitpay8241]

@@jamesranes3703 this was not UPS

[@BaxterBlue]

@jamesranes3703 I drove for UPS for 12 years. They don't enforce anything except for the brown.

[@bernarddembowski3946]

I bet there's maggots or lice in dred locks

[@jboardman1976]

I thought there was a discrimination law against firing a black man over his hairstyle

[@neil4602]

I’m a white male and been trucking 31 years. I looked into TMC years ago and they told me they run the company like the military. Clean cut facial hair and military style haircuts. They told me if I had long hair it would have to be concealed completely, or I’d be fired. Since I’m a Veteran and was already tired of military regulations I chose other employment opportunities. He should’ve been aware and signed these policies during orientation. It is a company’s right to set their appearance standards. It’s our right to work somewhere else. However, if there are other employees with the same visible appearance, but different ethnicity, that’s a huge problem. They should also be terminated immediately.

[@RoadWalker328]

Look at the Crown Law

[@foltzenlogel]

​@@RoadWalker328- Crown Law has no standing here since the State of Iowa doesn't have the law.

[@michaelsorrentino-yp7nb]

THE MARINE CORP That is the name of TMC period !

[@Lee-tt2yb]

And if a white person went in with dreadlocks, they'd be told to buzz it also. This is not about race; it is an appearance standard.

[@SalvadorCastillo-n4r]

I'm going to tell you the TRUTH 💯 The BIBLE 🎚️ SAY'S a "MAN shouldn't have long hair PERIOD.......

[@HappyCamper1992]

TMC is one of the last companies who actually care about their professional image. Worked for them about 15 years ago and even though I thought they were strict they definitely are professional. And I must admit that I enjoyed working for them. One of the last companies left who require professional drivers. No flip flops long hair pajama pants etc

[@DCigar]

They’ll fire you for walking on the grass but won’t maintain their equipment/engines. Typical mega BS on steroids.

[@williamwarner3982]

Not everything is rrrrrracist. His lawyer thinks that he has a case. He doesn't. TMC is well known for thier policies.

[@WorldTravelA320]

Exactly that's why TMC has ALWAYS stood for Truckers Marine Corps

[@Rory235]

@@WorldTravelA320 I am a retired trucker and in my opinion all trucking companies should be this way! When I started in the 80's trucker most were very clean cut. Not today!!! Trucking has gown down the rabbit hole! It is something when a company has put out dress and grooming codes when everybody should know how to dress and groom for the job!

[@jdavis6053]

I would think he’d have a case if he was hired on while still having long hair. Then that would be discrimination. Policies are meant to be enforced day 1 but if they are not and he was let in WITH long hair..that’s a big fact that might win him the case.

[@bill7778]

Alex!!! When I started at TMC a "trainee" was fired for having long hair. The driver already had experience with a different company and quit because he wasn't going to get his long hair cut.

[@gamintrucker1016]

If you don't like their policies, don't work for them.

[@rossstevens6165]

They have had the no dreadlocks policy for years. I have heard about drivers showing up for orientation getting let go for dread locks at TMC. You can also get in trouble for walking on the grass at their terminal or having a dirty truck.

[@AmandaMarkYoung]

Do they fire drivers for walking on the grass or having a dirty truck?

[@rossstevens6165]

@@AmandaMarkYoung I don't remember, but the driver that explained it to me made it sound like boot camp. Anyone from TMC care to chime in?

[@thejosh_roberts]

@@AmandaMarkYoung yes they do. My brother worked there for two years and told me about it several times. The joke is that TMC stands for The Marine Corps.

[@BaxterBlue]

So here's the problem with this entire story. We are only getting one side of it. It's hard to make a comment with only ½ the story.

[@rossstevens6165]

@@thejosh_roberts I remember it being described the truck being inspected for cleanliness when the service was due. It was so thorough, that they would look inside the air vents for dirt. Sounded like how weapons were inspected in the military. From the description, I would never consider working for them. And, I'm retired military.

[@ty-dg9ro]

How is TMC racist? They have alot of black men that work for that company. Everybody looking to get paid on the race issue, knowing its an easy one. This one sorry to say wont go thru.

[@homermcmillan1801]

If you want your own rules, work for yourself.

[@coach2208]

That's even worse these days, I know because I've was an independent for 41 years and just retired in 2023, there's no money to be made anymore because of all the Obama and Biden regulations.

[@SalvadorCastillo-n4r]

Well Said 💯

[@Mississippi4Clemson]

Definitely wouldn’t work for you 😡 And I don’t even have long hair . I can just tell by your statement what type of an individual you are . From what I understand, The owner of that ridiculous company was once a Marine (as in former). his military character has no place out here . I hope he sees this 😡 I don’t do flatbeds, So I wouldn’t work for that chump anyway.

[@williamrobinson6680]

Make up your minds already! You complain of NO regulations resulting in trucking wild wild west, open borders, thousands of scam CDL issuances, No speak English not enforced, on and on and on. Now belly aching claiming OVERREGULATION?!?! Which is it?!?! Can't make up your minds! Men aren't supposed to have periods. Lol!

[@CHUCKSNORRIS]

Guess your daddy didn't chestfeed you enough.

[@williammyers5409]

I am so tired of looking at drivers that look like idiots and want to push the issue. I owned a small fleet and I wanted my drivers to look well groomed because they represented my company. They love playing the race card but it just doesn’t work anymore. Just like flip flops, look professional or get into another line of work. You ever see dreadlocks on a airplane pilot, on a cruise ship captain.???

[@vityarusso]

He just wants easy money. Time to sell drags with his hair style 😂

[@Mitch-rk5mz]

I am so tired of people automatically claiming race about everything.

[@LoneWolf-tz7pl]

When your people stop being racist they won't have to worry about it anymore

[@Staywoke7909]

Everyone sees things through different lenses, shit you got people out here that would vote for a convicted felon as if that’s normal behavior!! Other side says the opposite probably because experience that you may not have experience, everyone in the world has a different perspective on life!!

[@roadlion7195]

💯

[@roadlion7195]

@@Staywoke7909tell me what the exact crime was please. Go ahead I’ll wait. Because no one can answer this question 🤔 I’ll tell take a felon any day over someone who hates And is destroying this country!

[@YeahOky]

You a white boy, of course you would type this mayo

[@mikerush1666]

Ive been reading all these coments and I have one for you all. TMC owns the equipment ,has the customers accounts and so on , they pay the bills and pay checks. Since they have put this in their company policy , they can pick and choose who represents them on the road . Its kinda like whats going on with the rates right now .Everyone is complaining loads arnt paying . Yet people keep taking them by their own choice. This driver has a choice either fit in line to company standards or if he feels he doesnt want to adapt find another job , cause that place dosnt fit him. Nobody forced him to work there . All they said is if you want the job this is what our standards are . The employer has the right to fire anyone that doesnt conform to said company rules . You dont have to like it but it is what it is .

[@thal3g3nd]

Buddy deserves better than 63 miles per hour anyway

[@mumblesbadly7708]

Especially because the federal minimum wage for non-tip workers is $7.25 per hour!

[@masterofalldark]

65

[@wannabeangler]

😂 That's funny! Love it! Slow ass trucks always getting in the way.

[@ROLLIN-DUB]

@@wannabeanglerlol, so you can see their name on the door😂😂😂

[@blauer2551]

I heard they get monitored for fuel consumption so they run about 62mph for that reason.

[@RobertSullivan-iy5yc]

I'm impressed with their fleet. One of 5:52 the few companies that keep their appearance on the up and up!! Their tarping skills are very impressive!

[@LoneWolf-tz7pl]

😂

[@diamondsntatts9003]

I agree...the trucks all look nice and clean inside and out. Drivers are professional

[@jonathanwilburn8842]

As a former tmc driver it is wrote in the code of conduct about this which you sign during orientation so if this does make it to court nothing will come of it tmc has many "name" to its meaning but "The Marine Corp." Of the trucking community is what i would give them there rules in the code of conduct are strict

[@dustbat]

When I started at UPS in 73 they told me You have the right to wear long hair. You do not have the right to work here. Things have changed now. Better? I do not know. The military told me long hair was too dangerous . Gas mask interference and health hazard in combat. All that went away when women joined up.🦇

[@moonshinershonor202]

But do we want women with buzz cuts? 😅

[@dustbat]

@@moonshinershonor202 Not me! However do they want drivers with long hair?🦇

[@Lil_Joe_Joe_TV]

Right!!..😂👍🏿

[@michaelrocker9000]

@dustbat In 1984 while i was serving in the US Navy a couple of new rules came down. Prior to the new rules no one under E4 was allowed to sport facial hair. In all the services the Navy was the only one that allowed it. Well the hammer came down and boom no more beards. Those on Shore Duty hated that rule. Surface ships also hated it. I was in Submarines and our CO's were cool about it meaning once we were underway we didn't need to deal with shaving until returning to port. We were ok during port visits. The Navy was trying to say that it would interfere with wearing face masks. That wasn't true. We used to have fire drills a few times a month and no one had a problem. I alsp worked jobs where I had to wear a hard hat and my long hair was never a problem and neither was if for the other men and women I worked with..

[@dustbat]

@@michaelrocker9000 That is a shock. That was a long standing tradition. They should say they just do not like the look. Did they go back on it? UPS let up on almost all their standards. Now some of our drivers look scary. I almost called the cops on one who looked so scary and sloppy I thought he stole the package car!🦇

[@jameskerrigan2997]

Work clothes work boots clean cut. You might have trouble filling seats, but drivers you get will be professional.

[@ButtmanAtHeart]

I’ll bet thats the idea behind it. They want good drivers not s*** heads.

[@1320pass]

Yes.

[@ernestbrothers1298]

TMC has had strict policies. They have guidelines that are explained at orientation. Get over your poor victim bs. You don't like their rules quit. You are supposed to be an adult. Take responsibility for your actions

[@Mitch-rk5mz]

Amen!!! People whinning because they don't like the rules and standards set by a company that wants to portray a nice image to customers. And of course, go straight to the race card.

[@itsupport4817]

It's call the CROWN ACT. Stupid. Understand the law, same when nasty YT want to bring they nasty @$$ dogs into restaurants or supermarkets an claim they are service dogs.

[@danf6975]

Unfortunately the brim of the hardhat has to sit parallel to the ground . The slant you see in that picture is an indicator that the hat is not on correctly.

[@TruckingByTheMile]

Well that’s debatable because it looks like his chin is down and not sitting up as if he’s looking ahead and up.

[@2233Cascade]

Another driver not reading the employment policy and now try to use the race card argument……nothing new

[@SalvadorCastillo-n4r]

I don't Care what Culture you are in. This is a PROFESSIONAL BUSINESS 🚛 "ALL" Driver's should Drive like one... Act like one ... and Look like one.... PERIOD.......

[@ravenravenfrommobileal]

Police officer got shot in the head shut up

[@SalvadorCastillo-n4r]

You Shut up

[@SalvadorCastillo-n4r]

I'm not taking about a COP. I'm talking about APPEARANCE

[@gungriffen]

In the 1940s Profesional "Diesal Pilots" wore full suits to work. I'm assuming you're working every single day in freshly pressed slacks, shined shoes, black socks, ironed shirt, suit jacket, and tie. If you can't pass for an attorney then you need to find another career slob.

[@SalvadorCastillo-n4r]

Have a good day

[@WillCarter1976]

Unpopular Opinion alert: Is it legal? Sure is. More importantly, when you're hired by TMC they make it abundantly clear what the dress code and grooming standards are. And if you weren't comfortable wtih them when they hired you, then Im not sure why youre surprised about them letting you go for violating those standards. So good luck playing the race card. And no, contrary to what the internet Lawyer/part time truckers tell you, you can't sue for it. Iowa is an "at will" state, but cheer up! I hear Prime is always hiring...

[@1320pass]

Exactly.

[@karimah8687]

They should have address this before he got started through orientation. They hired him knowing that he had dreadlocks.

[@1320pass]

@@karimah8687 wrong. You're not hired until road tested at a company terminal and issued equipment.

[@Supernut52]

But if they hire you still under that pretense. It's on them now. They won't say it because of your wonder work performance. That's to easy. Now after being hired. Then paying for everything and they know you have long hair I wouldn't say shit

[@christopherpaige406]

You're "hired" through a phone interview... Policies and procedures are given during orientation... He stated that he only shaved the sides... Supervisor said all or nothing... He refused and played the race/culture card... He was let go for not adhering to policies, that he had to agree to AND sign.

[@sierrajade63]

That's bad when a company has to give a grooming policy. So many don't care about personal hygiene or their appearance.

[@Turbrewski]

Exactly! Finally someone with some sense.

[@blauer2551]

Just like some drivers don’t care about their health either. I see some fat ass slobs that must be on the weekly renewal plan with their health cards. 5’7” and 400# waddling into the truck stop to get a soda and pork rinds.

[@freaksdrivingschool3519]

If you have a company you want your workers to look a certain way, you want to give your clients a good luck. There are many people in this country who dont take pride in themselves. Its even worse for truck drivers. And every company has grooming policies, its nothing new.

[@TheWandererOTR]

and that's fine, the problem comes in when the policies are discriminatory to the employees.

[@franklackie2469]

@sierrajade63 yes your absolutely correct rather sad when someone has to remind you to clean up don't know if they are just lazy or stupid

[@djzyon1384]

Simple fix… get your own truck and authority then you can be your own boss. Fk these companies

[@iamextremelywealthy2989]

Big Fax

[@baldwincobb]

🎯

[@chrisstyle405]

He knew that before applying to t.m.c. they state that in there application

[@claudiablanco6518]

Long hair vs dreadlocks. For people of color, dreadlocks are a form of care for their coarser hair, which I don’t fully understand why white people try them since it is a bit harsh on their hair type. Loose long hair gets easily trapped on anything compare to those short hair locks, so it makes no sense why he was fired. It is a culture thing, hygienic, and for those, growing their hair takes forever so a bit of pride included. Definite discrimination if others had long loose hair.

[@chrisstyle405]

@claudiablanco6518 I appreciate the reply. In 2014 fresh out of trucking school I had applied to t.m.c. and in fine print, It said no long hair or dreadlocks.and I had dreadlocks at that time down to my shoulder. So, I asked the recruiter at that time about that policy. He informed me that only for religious reasons that they will allow long hair or dreadlocks. I really wanted to drive for them because they still had the long hood peterbilts. I didn't cause no ruckus, I just decided that, unfortunately, I won't be able to work for them and applied somewhere else.

[@bettiebarker1975]

Then why did they hire him with hair not being cut in first thing. Why one must read, mark out what they do not agree with and under signature, ucc 1-308 but read up on 5hat cuse you will end up in jail if you cant explain it to the judge...

[@claudiablanco6518]

@@8teenwheeler I am serious. If it were a woman of color targeted for the same reason these are the conditions why she wears her hair in dreadlocks. Again, makes no sense why white people do so, but to each their own. If I see a white male with long loose hair and a black male with short dreadlocks, discrimination is then classified when the black male is let go. Especially when loose hair can get stuck anywhere.

[@claudiablanco6518]

@@8teenwheeler the serious remedy to this dilemma was to fire the long hair males as well. In that case, discrimination would no longer serve.

[@carlosaguirre1313]

Alex Any company have their own policíes like: 1- Employee with no long hair or beard 2- use company uniform 3- Use Hard hat, , vest and safety shoes The aparience of the company reflects how is the company. Many drivers use flip flops, long hair shots so thats no Good can be confortable for the drivers but not to the company. Best regards

[@robertcooper6853]

A love how so many people who have never worked there know so much about them. Spent 3 years there. Only quit because I wanted to be home more. Good company. Very safety oriented.

[@TheWandererOTR]

Did you have dreds?

[@adonis190911]

Hate to tell yall, TMC has always followed military regulations, you learn this in orientation. You cant now complain. I wouldnt apply an then tell them to change what they been doing.

[@rolandjones9250]

Why did they hire him???

[@alexisschecter6554]

The same thing happened to another Driver 7-8 years ago during orientation and was also let go. I see TMC Drivers everyday when loading. I will keep a lookout to see if anyone else has long hair. I currently do not recall seeing any Drivers with long hair, but they do wear hard hats most of the time

[@MattMazoo]

This isn't a civil rights issue whatsoever!! The appearance standards are plainly spelled out from day one of orientation. They want the drivers to look respectable and be able to fit the hard hat with chin strap on. I've been with TMC for over two years, and the appearance of drivers along with clean trucks is second only too safety!! There is more to this story that's missing for sure...

[@davidneal7060]

trust me they did you a favor, you have a cdl go somewhere else in work. some company are just not a good fit tomorrow its going to be some other issue

[@stoundingresults]

I gotta say that back in mid 2000s when I noticed the TMC trucks they were kept very neat and tidy. Even their chains on the headache racks were OCD organized to look symetrical.

[@1320pass]

That was me.

[@randyczapla9104]

The company is paying this man & has standards

[@Ats889]

I got my license at TMC because it was in my city. During the vice president of safety hour long speech he looked into my eyes and said don’t get out of the truck wearing you durag. I interpreted and said I don’t wear a fuk’n durag. The room of about 60 thought that was very funny. I did not.

[@jamestaylor7226]

No one is entittled to work anywhere, if a rule is a deal breaker for you, work somewhere else or put up with it until you can do better, life isn't a bed of roses.

[@robertburdette2365]

Yes it is dress code safety. My company my rules.

[@franklackie2469]

Yes

[@elmotesthall2656]

Your company would lose this lawsuit …especially if it gets to much attention

[@ravenravenfrommobileal]

Shut up a police officer got his head smashed by a firearm in New York 😂

[@ravenravenfrommobileal]

Shut up a police officer got his head smashed by a firearm in New York

[@WorldTravelA320]

​@@elmotesthall2656no it wouldn't.

[@jimmaphill7802]

Sue them they don’t pay sh$t anyway

[@JJubbs1]

I was taking home $1600-$1800 per week when I was working for them. Always at 32-33%

[@brianforgie7724]

Sue them for what? They have policies clearly spelled out in their orientation. You don't like it move on.

[@josephp.6791]

I went to the TMC orientation in 2020, recruiters never told me about the “hair” policy, so in my hotel room I was reading the handbook, it says “No Braids, No dreads, no pony tail shoulder length. Next day the bus had 5 of “us”heading back home. Won’t say too much, just It’s not a place for “us”.

[@Hotboiilee]

I applied at TMC. They told me I’d have to cut my hair before I started. I went tanker.

[@dknowles60]

good choice. i did flat bed tanker drivers have it a lot better

[@Hotboiilee]

@@dknowles60 I was forced into flatbed at prime. Did it for a year. Wasn’t feeling it.

[@pavanwilliams5714]

@@Hotboiilee…Next time a company tries to “force” you into something…line up another place of employment and move on. I’ve seen companies do drivers so wrong that I try to help as much as possible. Good luck

[@s1k2y3e4]

I’ve heard that they have similar standards as far as how clean you have to keep the inside and outside of their trucks as well. I just think thats TMC. Biggest thing for a new driver is to get on with a company that has a good reputation for safety so you develop good habits that will end up protecting you for the duration of your career.

[@larrydevries7851]

Wish more companies would do this have you seen the slobs out there act and look like professional

[@Highwayhustl3]

He looks and acts like a professional to me.

[@mdrew9234]

Is the policy enforced equally? Nearly every company has policies that are not enforced, the unknown (to us) is if this is a policy that isn't always enforced.

[@garybuth801]

I CAN!T UNDERSTAND WHY THESE NEW DRIVERS HAVE SUCH A PROBLEM WITH LOOKING PRESENTABLE /THE WAY SOME OF THE NEW DRIVERS DRESS IS DISGUSTING/RACE IS NOT A ISSUE/SHORTS/FLIPFLOPS/UNSHAVEN/BO/ THEY HAVE TO UNDERSTAND YOU REPRESENT THE EMPLOYER WHEN YOU SHOW UP AT SHIPPER/RECEIVER

[@EmojiBot]

Become a truck driver and you will understand. You white collar office rocket scientist. Sitting in the AC. Eating home cooked meals. Using your tiny brain trying to understand hard working deprived truck drivers.

[@charlesrhinesmith4585]

@@EmojiBot Your rant about being a truck driver is still no excuse for bad grooming habits.

[@MustangsTrainsMowers]

What about the crown act that has been passed in several states, the law makes it illegal to discriminate against the type of hair style that you have.

[@kellypatterson8506]

Hair is NOT a protected area like religion or sex preference so you can be fired, you can be fired for example if you have green eyed. Don't like the grooming requirements... find a different employer.

[@vinobeans9542]

Yes it is suspected WR. It’s called the Crown Act! Which has been passed in a couple states! Also firing someone for hair is a form of discrimination.

[@kellypatterson8506]

@vinobeans9542 I looked it up and very interesting, but as far as I am concerned safety supercedes this and not all states have this law let alone federal, odds are he's fighting a loosing battle and his lawyer is just using him.

[@Mike-zg1dr]

@@kellypatterson8506no you can’t get fire for that no more this a law suit crown act

[@elmotesthall2656]

@@kellypatterson8506it’s not a safety issue lmao shut up

[@jboardman1976]

Its a federal law passed in 2021 making it illegal to discriminate against his hair, cause its associated with him being black, look it up

[@vicentegamez9227]

When you apply to TMC you signed a contract that states you agree with their terms so good luck with law suit. He was made aware, given opportunity to decide but now pulls out the race card. He was knowledgeable of all this and pursuing trying to change company policy. Go work for someone else..

[@terrybane6206]

Some companies have standards..........some don't.

[@Couldnt_let_J.Marston_die]

When I was looking into flatbed companies I spoke with TMC, after going over their incredibly long list of rules and regulations about absolutely everything and finding out their trucks were governed at 63mph I made my decision to work for a different company. Everyone wants to claim victimhood while working for a company you freely decidedto sign on with. No one is forcing you to work for them you made that choice yourself. Either follow their rules or work somewhere else it's not that difficult.

[@Truekingg]

I just left TMC, And for those of you that dont know, they takes 80 to 90% of your last check, even after returning the truck in a nice clean condition.

[@gleng311]

I got paid regularly when I left. Did you get your CDL through them and complete your 12 month commitment ? Damage equipment through negligence? Get towed because you parked somewhere you weren’t supposed to? They’ll deduct those kind of things weekly normally. But if you leave, they’ll get the rest on your final.

[@Truekingg]

@@gleng311 No, Had my own CDL, and parked at they terminal after finishing the week with a 2 week notice, no damages. EDIT: And prior to being hired, I personally paid for all travel expenses, to they training terminal & lodging for the week. Even tho they did offer.

[@cosbyikaev2584]

If it was recently, sue them in small court. Or file complaint with appropriate federal agency. Labor department. Truckers association they will direct you with request. You need no lawyer. Check their policies and regulations. Get the written explanation why was taken 90% of your earned money, etc

[@bill7778]

That's a lie. I quit and got 100% of my last paycheck.

[@moonshinershonor202]

Sus. 😮

[@johnboysgarage9792]

Former tmc driver here, the company makes it very clear about this rule to any color or gender, also they are not the only flatbed company with this policy, its a safety issue, not a race issue...

[@gamintrucker1016]

I worked for the Schneider National bulk division. They have a no beard policy. When you yell racism over grooming policies, it makes you look like an idiot.

[@williamreyes6094]

True, but the beard policy is tied to your respirator and how it seats on your face. Hair has no bearing on how your hardhat is going to safely work for you. The hair issue is just nit picking imho.

[@ibnsabeel9466]

No beards for bulk division because they want to make sure the gas mask seals properly on a driver’s face.

[@mikelittle8546]

What if like he stated when you weren’t listening, others get to keep their jobs and pin up their hair. Now I’m not a fan of dreads, but I understand. Stop being that guy and catch up

[@TonyTony-vb5pu]

I don't know if it was racism or not, but what seems inconceivable is why would they even let him clock in if he didn't cut first. Everyone is so all over the place these day's.

[@kitcat2559]

Oil and Gas industry usually always ask for one to shave the there beards fully because of the gas masks being either full face or partial, because they gotta seal against your face to avoid getting whatever your around from being inhaled. For example H2S can instantly kill you if above 100ppm, anything above 20ppm can become very dangerous really fast thats why safety guys are butts about the shaving policy, ive been on pads where its around 800-1000ppm blasting out of tanks, full face covering masks with oxygen tank was required to get near the tank or get up on it to replace a bad relief hatch with pressure on it,the straps on the mask where super tight but it kept that h2s out of my lungs and me from going 6ft under

[@covingtonhalltown3730]

I'm envious. Of the many drivers tmc let go, few of them would've been a good fit. The majority they let go, tmc saved themselves from a lot of headaches.

[@rupertpessoa9008]

I’ve seen on indeed they’re paying up to 100,000 a year. In my opinion, there’s no amount of money that’ll make me change up my appearance. Especially in the trucking industry

[@blackjackmafia5282]

Never believe the Ad ifnit says up to.

[@rupertpessoa9008]

@@blackjackmafia5282 facts.

[@devoywilliams3956]

More like 60-70k

[@rupertpessoa9008]

@@devoywilliams3956 yeah. Damn! Exactly why I don’t trust trucking ads

[@LoneWolf-tz7pl]

Bulshit you're not going to make any hundred thousand dollars with them slow ass trucks.

[@raydillingham5148]

That's observed. I'm a blackan with dreads also and a flatbeder at that and HAVE NEVER had that be an issue ever. My helmet fits just fine and always has. I have worked for several companies and like I said it's NEVER been an issue.

[@CHICAGO_CALUMET68thBIG3]

but its their company 🤷🏾‍♂️what can you do

[@wannabeangler]

Why in the FK do all black guys use the "race card"? Some companies have rules and regulations that require hair to be short. I was a superintendent in construction before transitioning to trucking 21 years ago and I can affirm that long hair can be a hazard in certain areas. I say there is more to this and the driver is using this as a ploy to divert from the real issue. There's some other reason for his dismissal.

[@MGTOW_GHOST]

He said some of his coworkers had long hair as well. So why do all white guys look over obvious double standards?

[@wannabeangler]

@@MGTOW_GHOST Don't know don't care. Because the sh!t has gotten old. I had to do the same as a Superintendent in Construction more than once. Had to hire because of Affirmative Action, like many companies just because they are BLACK, but fired because they were useless on the job. Race card entitlement has gone to your head.

[@anigawaye1354]

No compnay would fire thier employess if they *need* them, no matter what thier policy(ies) says. The fact is, TMC has no freight to haul, meaning its time to fire employees, and the excuse is dread, while in reality its lack of business. For the drivere who were let go, just look/find other job. I can guarantee you that TMC needs you( good times) more than you need them.

[@Homesickfobbit]

That hard hat looks like it is being blocked by the hair

[@robtaylor6806]

Don’t sign the contract and company guidelines if you don’t like it.

[@1320pass]

Right.

[@minalvarez1565]

TMC has to many policies that sometimes don't make any sense but is their policy so if you want to work with them so you need to follow it even if you don't like it,,,,then find another jobs with so many flatbet company find a company with flip flops

[@jameshassel5838]

Respect . . looking respectful for the customer is the bottom line.

[@j1clarke]

TMC literally cut people hair during orientation

[@greglawson3805]

So they’re barbers now???

[@willsnellgrove4882]

I just came through it. No tf they don’t

[@TheWandererOTR]

I think this is the quickest company driver to owner operator path that a carrier has ever had.

[@1320pass]

TMC is a fantastic company. If it weren't for the 'OTR out all week' thing I'd still be there. Enjoyed my time in Des Moines back in 2004. Top notch securement training program. Performance based percentage pay. If you're willing to work, a man could do well for himself. Oh, and don't walk on Harrold's grass! 😅

[@johnnyjay328]

Mane f*** that job don’t cut your hair for them people! It’s too many places to work where you can be yourself!

[@CJRoberts8812]

If your employer says "Get a haircut", get a haircut. Employers have every right to set their own standards of dress and grooming. If you don't like it, you're free to look for work elsewhere.

[@orion2250]

Weak truckers to steering wheel holders…do what it takes to get the job done.life is hard. Worse when you play a victim.

[@cj6530]

ehhhhhh the trucking industry as a whole is trying to findnew ways to delete drivers- he never said that he got into an accident, nothing was damaged but feelings today, the guy put on his hat and boots and went to work, I can see if this guy wasn't grooming himself and just looked jacked up on camera. --like someone these other drivers but he did nothing but his job,, --im almost positive that if he were WHITEGUY- with a big pot belly- southern accent- and mustache with dirty timberland boots and a vest- PONYTAIL- AND A HARD HAT Nobody would have said anything to the Driver. But since he's black with long dreads-young-fit, and probably new to the industry.. its all fun to make someone shave their hair- for nothing.. its bs and they have a good case. (TMC) should've not done anything and sent him to another shipper.... now they look like an all white boy Scout company trying to keep things the way they are in the trucking industry- -------and they know good and well 70% of the trucking industry is full of minorities and migrants... I actually liked tmc, now idk..

[@buddysumner4022]

If he has proof of other workers having long hair then it’s wrong for him being fired,,

[@danielwebb9306]

Definitely sounds like Race or being singled out that's messed up I hope the driver wins

[@samuelforvour7942]

If that's there policy than that's what you signed up for. Don't work there if you don't agree with that policy.

[@hifiman4562]

There is no business reason to ban dreadlocks. He can sue.

[@zell863]

I worked for a few companies who would require me to cut hair. At and of my mind would be that I can sue for it.

[@hifiman4562]

@@zell863 Well that's you. Doesn't stop anyone else.

[@robertpolkamp]

Dreads are extremely unprofessional, shows poor hygiene, and a general defiance to norms and standards.

[@Brett235]

It's called private business policies. They have every right to make policies.

[@anovino1992]

Then he can start his own company.

[@ondraelnabors6914]

I stand with the driver! B1 ✊🏾👊🏾

[@TheWandererOTR]

This is TMC's policy on hair length and grooming: "Hair no longer than collar length; no ponytails/dreadlocks/braids, etc, regardless of length; no mohawks; no visible body-piercing to include earrings and tongue studs. Tattoos that contain demeaning or offensive images/text are not permitted. All tattoos must be covered while at customer locations. Beards must be neatly trimmed. Accommodation of religious beliefs in terms of grooming and/or appearance may be difficult in light of safety issues or if they create an undue hardship, however trainees requesting a workplace grooming and/or appearance accommodation based on religious beliefs should contact the Human Resources department."

[@WesleyPettit-su2rq]

Those are really kind of normal requests a guy with long hair or a beard that gets wrapped up in a piece of machinery once will probably not have that problem ever again. There was a kid in high school that had really long hair shot under a car on a creeper it got rolled up in the wheel the next day he came in with white walls. I guess if you want to sign off saying if a beam falls on your head and kills you you can't sue the company if your beard or your hair gets rolled up in the fan belt while you're checking the oil. I'm sure they have to make some religious exceptions after all those guys don't bathe but once a month anyhow if you're if they can find water then but they sure don't mind washing the truck with the windshield sponge at the fuel Island

[@greglawson3805]

@@TheWandererOTR well that settles that. Tell homie quit whining, he knew the deal coming in.

[@karimah8687]

The problem is that they hired him. They should have said told him his hair was a no go before starting orientation.

[@greglawson3805]

@@karimah8687 I believe he was told and given deadline to cut it, which he didn’t. All this BS for a guy that knew the deal and now wants to play his “race card” and victim status. I think he’s had his 15 minutes. Time to Move on…..

[@TheWandererOTR]

@@greglawson3805 The wording of the policy is problematic and can be interpreted as discriminatory.

[@joefisher9213]

If it’s a safety issue they absolute they can fire you and it’s not illegal, they make these things called hairnets for this very reason. Even today I was talking to someone about being fired for being obese, if your so big your are throwing off your steer axle weights in the truck and no one can legally load you, your gonna get terminated.

[@jbone9900]

Nah how come others get to do but not him wonder why.

[@kimberlyhemerson4828]

If your that big I guess you order a truck with twin steer axle,s one to haul the load and the other to haul your BIG MAC ass down the road 😂

[@joefisher9213]

@@jbone9900 because Iowa is a right to work state, which means you can get fired for literally anything regardless of how dumb it is and there nothing you, him, me, or anyone else can do about it

[@TheWandererOTR]

Something doesn't make sense here. We need to hear the other side of the story first. Edit: Nevermind, I found their policy.

[@MuthaTrucker]

I'll definitely get it

[@LrulestheworldM8]

​@@MuthaTruckerNo you won't. TMC doesn't talk to the public. Their supervisors especially don't talk to the public. They're running a program out there that should be illegal in many regards. This dreadlocks thing isnt anything new. It's been going on long before this guy or myself ever got into the company. They require short hair for safety reasons. Read it in my handbook.

[@Mr_Clean]

Their official policy is hair no longer than collar length

[@micclay]

​@@MuthaTruckerare women requiring to have short hair?

[@GinaMiller12603]

@@micclayI work for TMC and women don’t have to cut their hair but they do require it be kept up in a bun in a way that the hard hat will still fit right.

[@christophermckoy3671]

There are too many trucking jobs out here that will hire him with dreadlocks, so to harp on something like this , especially if it's in their policy book isn't worth it. Just move on elsewhere, especially if removing your dreads is not an option. Because making a big deal about this, especially going public, could cause him to get blackballed with other major carriers, especially if those carriers are in the ATA together.

[@Bigzero.Scratcher]

Why did they hire him in the first place then. Makes absolutely no sense to bring him aboard then fire him. Could have simply stated this in the interview process.

[@gleng311]

They don’t do in person interviews. Everything is over the phone. And even then the grooming policies are provided prior to orientation. It’s then given to you to sign during orientation.

[@foltzenlogel]

Maybe he grew the dreads after hiring on

[@gleng311]

@@foltzenlogel he was in orientation when this happened.

[@Markhope-e3z]

A DEI lawyer ...Everything is racist today.If the company has rules , you should be able to follow them end of discussion.

[@TheWandererOTR]

Not if those rules are found to be discriminatory. That is unconstitutional.

[@Markhope-e3z]

@@TheWandererOTR So I guess schools dress codes are unconstitutional.

[@dwolters_the_zombieman]

we are just hearing 1 side of the story

[@Shivris]

It’s pretty common knowledge in the industry that TMC is a strict company. They have always had a paramilitary culture surrounding them. They even check inside your truck for cleanliness and organization during pms. Don’t blindly apply at trucking companies before doing a little research on the company. Not every company just lets you do whatever you want with their equipment and dress however you want while representing them.

[@vinobeans9542]

With the money from his lawsuit he will buy his own truck

[@Brett235]

There won't be a lawsuit. It's called a policy. No lawyer worth his salt would take this case.

[@vinobeans9542]

@@Brett235 policy doesn’t trump federal law. I guarantee you TMC will settle.

[@jamesranes3703]

Policy doesn't trump the law. Never has, never will.

[@Brett235]

@@vinobeans9542 they have to prove that it is a racial violation first and of course they'll settle because they don't want it in the public stratosphere.

[@vinobeans9542]

@@Trollpoison That’s what this country was founded on 😂

[@b_moneygo4515]

If its company policy and you want to keep your job cut your hair. Its that simple.

[@TheWandererOTR]

Not if it's a discriminatory policy. Are they telling women that they must cut their hair or get fired?

[@chasingghost4499]

I am a female driver, i haul hazmat, i pull a tanker. I wear full frcs, hard hat, and face shield. My hair is 3 ft long and has never been an issue. Often i have it in a bun under my hardhat, it you place it right it will actually hold your hat on. I can hang upside-down and the bun holds my hard hat on. If you put your hair in it right it will do the same for you. If you are wondering why i twist it up in a bun... #1, i dont like chemicals in my hair, #2, i dont think that getting scalped by a pto shaft would feel very good. Sue the hell out them.

[@BaxterBlue]

I've had long hair my whole life and never had a problem either. I usually just throw it up in a French braid. I don't want to comment on this story because we are only getting one side of it. Be safe out here sister.

[@michaeldunagan8268]

Yeah-the safety issue reason given by some rings hollow to me because there are no rotating assemblies that could reel-him-in such as a serpentine belt on an engine when performing flatbed work.

[@BaxterBlue]

@michaeldunagan8268 OK, that was confusing. I've been running flatbed and step deck for years. My hair is waist length. I just throw it in a braid and sometimes just put the braid inside my shirt.

[@michaeldunagan8268]

@@BaxterBlue I corrected the Google @ auto correction typo. I believe my comment makes a more clear point now.

[@BaxterBlue]

@michaeldunagan8268 Yeah, that makes much more sense. Lol

[@TheWandererOTR]

For those who don't understand why this is a big deal, here's the issue with their policy: 1. If it's truly a safety issue, then they should be fine with their employees wearing their hair up. Do you think that they are telling women that their only option is to literally cut their hair, or be terminated if they do not? The fact that this isn't the case means that they are applying their policy selectively in regard to the "safety" claim that they make, which makes it discriminatory. (and that's with me leaving out the claim that the trucker made that other prospective employees in orientation were able to wear their hair at shoulder length or longer. I'm strictly speaking of how the policy is implemented.) 2. Their policy specifically states "No dreadlocks." Which is evidence that the policy was not created to mitigate issues with personal safety while at work. Because if this were the case, then they would have no problem with dreadlocks being worn at or above the neckline or collar, as their policy states is acceptable. By basically by telling the perspective employee that his hair must be worn at or above his collar, but also that he can't have dreads at all, they invalidated their first point regarding this being an issue of safety. If it's not a safety issue, then it's a preference issue, and if it's a preference issue, then a case can be made that the policy is inherently discriminatory.

[@Pablo_baggz]

Definitely was about race

[@zell863]

No money, no money. Parasites go work and earn money.

[@carlosroddy35]

I laugh at all these guys saying he should get another job. My question is why hire the guy that from day one wasn't meeting their dress code? They needed drivers so they over looked it and now it's a problem. Don't compare their hair policy to the military, because the military would have never hire him unless he cut his hair and they should had did the same. Why did you hire him?

[@GenXFarmer77]

Clearly racism, his hair was not preventing him from wearing the hard hat correctly, they are trying to say its safety to do a back door around being racist.

[@mistydelmonico2715]

The bulkiness of the hair style is not allowing the hard hat to seat properly causing diminished protection.

[@diedfrombored5295]

TMC will fire anyone for anything, as people say they call it The Marine Corps (TMC) and some have said in the first 3 days of orientation like 90% of their starting class is sent home. But they are one of the largest mega carriers in the entire country, I guarantee there are a lot more drivers that have dreadlocks and other hairstyles I don't believe they would fire someone for that and i'm also pretty sure it wouldn't be legal to do so either.

[@bill7778]

Trucker's Marine Corpse

[@stanz1847]

they send most of them home and probably still collect the money that they get for bringing people in for orientation .. typical mega carrier thing... just because you keep the "appearance" of the equipment up to par doesn't mean jack shit about how the people in the company really are..

[@katb8951]

If I understand this correctly, he was let go while still in orientation. I'm sure they told him from jump that he had until the end of the period to conform to their policies or be let go. Since that isn't mentioned here, I'm guessing that's the case. Playing the race card isn't going to fly.

[@bigsolo762]

It's not about safety is about power and control

[@ibnsabeel9466]

TMC = Trucking Marine Corps Fellas, and ladies, not everything is for everybody. Get in where you fit in. There are literally thousands of companies out here to work for.

[@dewaynewheeler5006]

That’s some BS right there…..I have to side with the driver on this one.

[@zell863]

BS right there. I side with company.

[@verlynwillis4969]

I'm siding with the driver

[@MihranHovsepian]

I worked for them a year ago. I was told no shorts ,hard hat and vest. Shipping companies would not load you until corrected. Hard hats had chinstrap for that reason. Unfortunate situation for this young man but life goes on sir.

[@tsampson38]

That sounds like he was singled out!

[@f.j.c4444]

Exactly, he made it sound like that.m but based on the comment it is their policy. Unless he has hard proof for example video or photo. He won’t win and get dismissed..

[@Wasupup]

Complain about everything. Company policy, like it or leave it

[@TheCrawfordExperience]

It's more of a race thing brother.... This is a big time lawsuit. 💯

[@Brett235]

Lol no it's not... SMH only racists look at everything from a racist point of view.

[@glennl9630]

I know I know the Victim card grow up

[@thedriver1970]

@@glennl9630 If other employees of that same employer also had visibly long hair and their supervisor didn't verbally say anything to them about it but just singled the driver out then i"d say he possibly has a valid argument!

[@nastystew6942]

Its not about race! I'm black and I chose not to work for them because I'm a vet myself and wanted to get away from the militant way they run the company

[@magigooter2096]

​@@thedriver1970Okay but how can you prove the other drivers with long hair didn't get checked on it soon after? These companies like to get lax on standards and as soon as it spreads, they crackdown. Happens all the time. It's in the company policy to have hair length above the collar. You break the rule, you break the rule. Simple as. I'd be surprised if this case makes it. All the company has to do is show a bunch of white guys getting fired for the same reason and it's over.

[@richardspillers6282]

Its a stupid policy. If you're firing people over their hair don't ever complain about driver retention.

[@MarshallMcCrory]

😊😊😊😊...... @richardspillars6282 Sir,if you would indulge me and allow me to ask,I would appreciate your enlightenment on this topic. What is the excitement of men having long hair? Is it to impress the girls? Is it to thumb your nose at "the man"? Is it to be cool? Is it to impress your friends? Is it the handful of shampoo and conditioner that one must use while bathing? Is it to look cool when you're in Wyoming and the wind is blowing 50mph and it whips around in your face? I would that you please not misinterpret my questions. I am a product of the 70's, Skynard,Allman Brothers, Zz Top,BoA,Frampton, Nugent etc. I once had my hair between my shoulders. It never impressed the girls. "The man" never was impressed. None of my friends bragged about it,nor were they impressed. I understand that people think it's a "right". But organizations have "rights" also. A person must understand this. Would you bring shame upon your family name,do you not wish to honor your family with proper conduct and manners.When out to dinner with your family do you talk with loud vulgar words,or are you polite and respectful so as not to cause your parents to be embarrassed? The same applies here. There was an earlier comment. "A person has the "right" to wear long hair,they do jof have the "right" to work anywhere.I hope you'll not read any emotions into my words,as any emotions you feel will be your own.I would that you remember this? Just because you have the "right" to do something, doesn't make it the "right" thing to do.

[@captaincoopa]

Crown act was signed into law, big lawsuit

[@foltzenlogel]

The CROWN Act is law in the following states: Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Illinois, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Nebraska, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Oregon, Tennessee, Texas, Virginia, and Washington. That has no bearing on Iowa.

[@kingloc6042]

TMC guidelines state "hair no longer than you collar" I had collar length locs and they sent me home.

[@kingloc6042]

They did me a favor. I got a seat with a better paying company. TMC definitely singles out black men with locs. This is not new information. Just Google it.

[@TheWandererOTR]

Well then you can sue for breech of contract if you don't think it's discrimination.

[@kingloc6042]

@TheWandererOTR They did me a favor. I found a better company that pays me a lot more than TMC, and I don't have to drive a slow truck.

[@todayslist37737]

Thick dreads can cause issues with he hard hat "fitting and looking" right.