35. Warren Buffett DCF Intrinsic Value Calculator

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Preston Pysh

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@iamparadocx
@iamparadocx 9 жыл бұрын
Okay, so I just got done watching all the three courses and I can't thank you enough. These lessons are gold. You're one sublime teacher. Kudos for the great work! Thank you once again!
@robertwilson4150
@robertwilson4150 8 жыл бұрын
+Ashish Singh I couldn't have said it better!!! Thank you Prestons Pysh you are making a huge contributions to society!!! Thanks again!!!
@mayankmittal16
@mayankmittal16 5 жыл бұрын
Bt how do we calculate intrinsic value as for the base he has taken 10 year federal note we are in india and trade in bse what should we take as a base in india
@imlkr_
@imlkr_ 4 жыл бұрын
@@mayankmittal16 you can just google "the 10 year average bond interest rate in India " and I guess now it's around 6 percent
@mayankmittal16
@mayankmittal16 4 жыл бұрын
@@imlkr_ thanks buddy and you are right
@imlkr_
@imlkr_ 4 жыл бұрын
@@mayankmittal16 cheers!
@jaykiriona
@jaykiriona 4 жыл бұрын
This is literally life changing, I can't put a price on how good this has been for me - I'll never forget how much knowledge I've learnt from these Preston, so thank you! I wish we could all lobby together and PAY you for this? Would love to be able to donate something to you! Now its time to go back over the things that haven't quite solidified as pure knowledge yet, and start my journey on the stock market. Sincerely, Jay Kiriona
@tonycosta3336
@tonycosta3336 3 жыл бұрын
Have you made money off of this formula?
@vimukthaariyasinghe8041
@vimukthaariyasinghe8041 3 жыл бұрын
Watched all the 3 videos series without skipping a single ad..because thats what we can do by our side..thank you for your time contributing to us..learned lot of stuff and never ever get into this much of level without you.. salute you again..
@kevinwint7963
@kevinwint7963 9 жыл бұрын
Now that I am done with all of these videos I can run through my notes and slap together all the pertinent formulas so I know what to look for in a healthy company (at least for the screening process). This series has been phenomenal!
@tonycosta3336
@tonycosta3336 3 жыл бұрын
Had you made money off this formula?
@eddieatum617
@eddieatum617 5 жыл бұрын
We all thank you... ....your the most effective, ...the most convenient.. the easiest and most simplistic understanding of financial information given anywhere on the internet around the world. Thank you and bless yah.. My entire family are learning all your knowledge and you've made financial education FUN!!!!... you've changed our lives.. very humbling ...and very grateful. Thank you. From New Zealand..
@tonycosta3336
@tonycosta3336 3 жыл бұрын
Had you made money using this formula?
@valezkaocando1908
@valezkaocando1908 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Preston! finished the 3 courses! and can't thank you enough for your enlightenment!! also grateful that people like you exist!!
@LW4816
@LW4816 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for making these videos and providing them to us for free! I just finished Cardiology training and was looking at ways of investing my income. They don't give us any education in financing and I feel your videos gave me a nice background to work from. Thank you!!!
@adarshzzz
@adarshzzz 3 жыл бұрын
Watched all 3 series and these are gold in KZbin I have found out. Thanks for this ❤️
@Spunk990
@Spunk990 6 жыл бұрын
I have read buffets books and intelligent investor...but never understood the value concept properly..but after watching all your vedio now i really understand what value investing is...thanks a ton for sharing your knowledge in such an easy way😄😄
@Az-jt2zp
@Az-jt2zp 4 жыл бұрын
It's been 6 years after you originally put these videos out! I've finally finished going through all of them and it was awesome! I've learnt so much and its been an amazing head start getting all the info from one place so quickly! Thank you so much!
@sanjeen2503
@sanjeen2503 4 жыл бұрын
Hi. Have you started upon an investment portfolio based on Preston's videos? I finding myself too risk-averse 😅
@tonycosta3336
@tonycosta3336 3 жыл бұрын
Had you made money on this formula?
@Az-jt2zp
@Az-jt2zp 3 жыл бұрын
@@tonycosta3336 I used on Disney last year when markets dipped and I bought some (didn't have much cash on hand) but so far I've made about 40% so far. I'm still learning but these videos were a really good starting off point for me I feel... Plus they are free!
@tonycosta3336
@tonycosta3336 3 жыл бұрын
@@Az-jt2zp thanks so this formula works? And hope you continue investing
@Az-jt2zp
@Az-jt2zp 3 жыл бұрын
@@tonycosta3336 well I mean, from my current research and discovery (not as much as most pro value investors) it's just one part, and argueably a small part of it. You could do a DCF analysis on a bad company that's poorly managed with lots of debt it can't service and loose all your money when the company goes into bankruptcy for example
@joed1755
@joed1755 4 жыл бұрын
Preston thank you very much for taking the time and creating this video series. I am very grateful for having you as my teacher. Your style is straight forward and easy to understand. There is Jewish proverb.." Save one life and you saved the whole humanity." I feel like you have done that more than once... Thank you again for teaching me how to fish... Good luck in everything you do. Happy New Year
@MiguelCardenas-xu2dw
@MiguelCardenas-xu2dw 4 жыл бұрын
Just completed your courses, thank you Preston for adding massive value
@marilynspikes
@marilynspikes 10 жыл бұрын
Welcome back Mr. Pysh, you have certainly been missed.
@GyanVistaar655
@GyanVistaar655 4 жыл бұрын
@@PrestonPysh Don't you think you should compare intrinsic value to enterprise value/share? Comparing it to market price is misleading.
@michellebeauregard2477
@michellebeauregard2477 10 жыл бұрын
Wow thank you for sharing! I'm just through 2/3rds of the Intelligent Investor and his strategies didn't sink in until I finished watching your videos. It's more clear now, thanks for the advise, resources and engaging content, I'm more confident as a first time investor. Can't wait to listen to your podcasts on the way to work!
@deelee8535
@deelee8535 6 жыл бұрын
I would love to thank you for these 35 lessons. I have learn so much about how investments work. I am now able to investments intelligently.
@brutismaximus1
@brutismaximus1 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Preston. The entire course was amazing with plenty of eureka moments. I look forward to reading your books now.
@kdfunchannel8084
@kdfunchannel8084 4 жыл бұрын
Just finished watching all of the courses. Thank you for all the knowledge!
@davidcitra3581
@davidcitra3581 7 жыл бұрын
thank you so much for all your hard work to provide us with free courses that helped me so much. God bless you..
@Ray-hx4dz
@Ray-hx4dz 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Preston, I watched your all 3 courses. They are really nice teaching! I learned a lot from these classes. Thanks you very much!
@tonycosta3336
@tonycosta3336 3 жыл бұрын
Had you made money using this formula?
@Ray-hx4dz
@Ray-hx4dz 3 жыл бұрын
@@tonycosta3336 Yea Man!
@tonycosta3336
@tonycosta3336 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ray-hx4dz Oh wow so would you recommend this formula or would you recommend a different one? Thanks for answering my question just wanted to know if this formula works thanks
@Ray-hx4dz
@Ray-hx4dz 3 жыл бұрын
@@tonycosta3336 I would only recommend this DCF method!
@tonycosta3336
@tonycosta3336 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ray-hx4dz thanks again for answering seems like people agree this is a good intrinsic value I will definitely use!
@fraterr
@fraterr 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Preston, your courses have been gold to me! Thanks so much for the effort you put into them.
@45138449
@45138449 5 жыл бұрын
Preston all your courses were very helpful and easy to understand! Thank you and congratulations!
@lk895
@lk895 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Preston. at 16:22 mark what is the calculation behind finding the 7376% annual return?
@jreinhard96
@jreinhard96 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Preston Pysh, just finish your 3 courses, thanks for the sharing. See u on top
@vetiarvind
@vetiarvind 3 жыл бұрын
Rather than net income, i think it makes sense to use the book value per share of the initial period to the final period and then add all the dividend payouts in that period on top of the difference of the book values to get the total amount of growth that we've seen after operating expenses is taken into account.
@kamalakannangunalan
@kamalakannangunalan 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot bro This is great and I watched all your there courses you are able to make things simple and understandable.
@rudolphkotze7951
@rudolphkotze7951 3 жыл бұрын
Great set of courses, thanks for all the time you've put into it!
@AaronJamesLeeHanMing
@AaronJamesLeeHanMing 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Preston, is there no more "Input Ticket" option on the DCF calculator?
@BenjaminDaly
@BenjaminDaly 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Preston. This course has been fantastic. Really appreciate you putting the time and effort into creating these videos. I've ordered your book and can't wait to get stuck in. Many thanks, Ben :)
@prachiranade8259
@prachiranade8259 6 жыл бұрын
Benjamin Daly could you please name the book!Thanks
@TheFrancisKiwi
@TheFrancisKiwi 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all the work you've put Preston.
@naimmazmi
@naimmazmi 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome! That was a lot of things to go through. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us.
@bw5187
@bw5187 4 жыл бұрын
I thought in a DCF investment calculation the discount rate was using something more concrete like the WACC for the company under inspection.
@domesticateddad-mr6pk
@domesticateddad-mr6pk 3 жыл бұрын
I love this, thank you for this video, I’m currently reading your warren Buffett accounting book, excellent stuff!!!
@Isaac-hs3bj
@Isaac-hs3bj 3 жыл бұрын
Preston i appreciate this being for free. Thank you
@Mohamed-qp7nb
@Mohamed-qp7nb 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Preston These Courses are real Gold 🧡
@balkrishnatamang8567
@balkrishnatamang8567 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Preston, Can we not enter owner's earning per unit instead of what you do in DCF calculater?
@osu122975
@osu122975 9 ай бұрын
Nice vid. Curious as to why no cash/cash equivalents or total debt taken into account for calculation?
@MyDreamside
@MyDreamside 7 жыл бұрын
what if the growth rate is lower than inflation, i calculated coca cola , with average growth rate in short term 1%, that's how much the net income increased per year during a 10 year period on average. Shouldnt we instead detract inflation? if cash flow increases 1% per year and the inflation rate is 1.5 we actualy loose money. So what you say in 13:07, if the company follows inflation we should put 0 as a long term growth. Correct me if i'm wrong
@saltlordbros5278
@saltlordbros5278 5 жыл бұрын
Did you find the answer to that man?
@SonoroCreative
@SonoroCreative 10 жыл бұрын
Love this stuff Preston. Big fan of the forum on the website too. Top quality stuff.
@MartialWaves
@MartialWaves Жыл бұрын
Thank you for all of this information, I really appreciate it.
@indrajain1259
@indrajain1259 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you dear preston it surely will help us now to be a winner at all times
@MyDreamside
@MyDreamside 9 жыл бұрын
we can do this for BV, choose a short term growth and then choose a growth perpetual. Since we will see BV in cash only in the end, we discount it only one time. This is ofcourse if we have no dividents.
@Sebbipanza
@Sebbipanza 4 жыл бұрын
I hope you see this question = ) Given a company has negative income the present year the calculation will only calculate with positive numbers as I see it. What should one do ? = )
@arentube8123
@arentube8123 4 жыл бұрын
The web resources that I have found say that free cash flow is different than Owners Earnings. Depending on the type of company, they can be very different. So if I can calculate both owners earnings and free cash flow, which should I use?
@meirgoldenberg5638
@meirgoldenberg5638 11 күн бұрын
Is the possibility of a company buying back its stocks the reason for using owner's income instead of the book value growth for analysis?
@jethrolim7664
@jethrolim7664 4 жыл бұрын
by far you are the best been watching gurus here in the philippines and it's really hard to trust them
@mayankgarkoti6977
@mayankgarkoti6977 8 жыл бұрын
Hi Preston, Very NIce video. There are a some doubts What should I enter In point 6(Shares Outstanding) if i have for example 2.31 crore and 42.41 lacks in shares Outstanding?
@nanduteju1827
@nanduteju1827 3 жыл бұрын
Jusk like sir Ben Graham is to sir Warren buffet , u r to me. Thank you for this course.
@pauljoshiva
@pauljoshiva 3 жыл бұрын
HI Preston, Why $WMT growth is negative -1.39 now and How to calculate DPCF for this one?
@miro2189
@miro2189 4 жыл бұрын
Please may I ask? On which website one can find an efficient, free way to find a company's past book value per share stats over the past 10 year period. Any help would be great. Thank you😊
@s.m.meherulalam3540
@s.m.meherulalam3540 3 жыл бұрын
What benefits for using the Book Value Intrinsic Value calculation
@NaeemAhmed812
@NaeemAhmed812 4 жыл бұрын
Massive value, appreciate your hard work in presenting this amazing course to someone who has no idea where to start! Thank you thank you thank you!
@21Emory
@21Emory 10 жыл бұрын
YOU'RE BACK!! DONT LEAVE US EVER AGAIN D:
@tonycosta3336
@tonycosta3336 3 жыл бұрын
Does this formula work?
@gruminatorII
@gruminatorII 4 жыл бұрын
i think the way the discountet perpetuity cash flow is calculated its the same way than the discounted future cash flow but not for perpetuity but for the 10 years after the first 10 years am i right ?
@dmeads5663
@dmeads5663 6 жыл бұрын
Just finished all 3 courses, thanks for all the knowledge
@popohammers9095
@popohammers9095 4 жыл бұрын
the discount rate is what your expected annual return? How to accurately assume that number? Can you explain further
@irakli1264
@irakli1264 5 жыл бұрын
When evaluating AAPL data, DCF model calculator gave the intrinsic value of $645, whereas the book value based calculator only $145. In both cases prospected time period was 10 years. I get that intrinsic value is highly subjective, but what about such a huge difference?
@mrzombiesbo
@mrzombiesbo Жыл бұрын
Does anyone know how the DPCF value is calculated? Can't get it to work in Excel
@jordanroberts7931
@jordanroberts7931 6 жыл бұрын
When do I use this calculator over the other one in course 2? Or should I be using both all of the time?
@manu93ize
@manu93ize 4 жыл бұрын
dose this work if starting free cash flow number is zero or negative number
@IdealPerspectiveVision
@IdealPerspectiveVision 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry but I wanna ask you about the info that you take from morgingstar you did take the financial earnings not the owners earning right ?
@candyfloss184
@candyfloss184 4 жыл бұрын
One question:- don’t I need to really find out the FCF by reading the past annual reports or just assume my calculation is just working fine.
@brandsafetychris2215
@brandsafetychris2215 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Preston, for the company I'm researching the average growth rate calculated was negative..I received an error when I tried to continue, so I just kept it at the default 3%..can you explain what to do in a circumstance like this? I just want to make sure that what's being input into the calculator is correct. Thanks!
@rexinferi
@rexinferi 6 жыл бұрын
How do you get the sum of all the numbers added into infinity(perpetuity)? Doesn't make sense to me? Also I don't understand the point of the Discount factor? and discounting the FCF? When in the end it just tells you which price will yeild you your desired return(discount rate)? What is the point of looking at the discounted future cash flows? (discounted by your desired annual return??)
@PhilippPogosov
@PhilippPogosov 5 жыл бұрын
So, how does he discount it? DCF formula have WACC that include beta, so does Buffett and other value guys use it the same way like academics?
@rolandoborriceli8823
@rolandoborriceli8823 5 жыл бұрын
This is bullshit :D try this m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJXClqCCgd99pM0
@wuhaowz
@wuhaowz 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! I watched your videos, read your books, saved your website! I will ask my wife do the same thing again. and we are going to head to stock market!
@satyamverma1060
@satyamverma1060 3 жыл бұрын
hey so would you like to share how useful this course was and how much money you actually gained by using these techniques
@krasich9
@krasich9 3 жыл бұрын
This whole course if pure Gold, thank you so much. I have assessed many companies, using all the tools and fundamentals that you have taught us, I found the following stock as an interesting option PRU Prudential Financial, using the first calculator I got a 16% yearly over the next 10 years, I used that value using the DCF calculator, and I use only data from 2011 until 2019 due to COVID-19 impact, according to the DCF calculator this company may yield a 37.69% annual return, is my assessment accurate? or I am missing something that could lead to this high return. Regards,
@hussain935
@hussain935 4 жыл бұрын
it is a great video. cleared my concepts. Thanks from Pakistan
@hey4796
@hey4796 4 жыл бұрын
Gonna watch all 3 courses again.
@JJabbarov
@JJabbarov 3 жыл бұрын
I understand that past FCF can be unstable and, therefore, it is difficult to put the right growth rate of future FCF to DCF calculator. But, are we justified in using the growth rate of net income...? At the end of the day I want to calculate the sum of FCF over the next 10 years and discount it back to the present day. And if company continues to deliver unstable FCF without much growth - that should be factored in in DCF - not the positive growth of net income. Do you agree?
@sanalattuveappil
@sanalattuveappil 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you all these lessons are of great value. Can you make a lessons on security Analysis?
@VS-ic3by
@VS-ic3by 8 жыл бұрын
preston which calculator is more precise?
@vidya014
@vidya014 Жыл бұрын
Try an alternative simple way: Settings: Owner's earnings per share based. DCF year is proportional to CROIC. CROIC = 20%, means 20 years. Growth = 0 and Discounted Rate = 0 because they are taken care of by CROIC.
@DVS1N50MN1AC
@DVS1N50MN1AC 4 жыл бұрын
How'd you get the DPCF calculation. I keep getting a different number. It's doing my head.
@yousufkhan6403
@yousufkhan6403 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this great video series(Y) . Your calculator is excellent and easy to use tool but there's one issue that its not accounting for negative net income percentage as currently we have -1.07% for WMT
@ROC4Life96
@ROC4Life96 4 жыл бұрын
Where can I find a stocks financials going back 10 years (ideally, for free)?
@arindamsar5547
@arindamsar5547 4 жыл бұрын
In companies investor relations options
@robimgabriel8063
@robimgabriel8063 4 жыл бұрын
Sec.gov
@jordanhe7509
@jordanhe7509 4 жыл бұрын
Morningstar can provide that information.
@taiwanreporter
@taiwanreporter 10 жыл бұрын
Great, the channel is still alive!
@shivakanthb
@shivakanthb 10 жыл бұрын
Hi Great tutorial , in a simplified manner that a lay man like me could understand. Thanks a ton for this
@asyrafjalil3506
@asyrafjalil3506 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, the course helped me alot.
@zomarzoo8764
@zomarzoo8764 4 жыл бұрын
Why did u turn off the comments of ur intrinsic value video
@alishertlebaldyyev
@alishertlebaldyyev 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much, Preston! Courses are really nice. However, I found a mistake in the last #35 lesson. The sum of DFCF is not right and it is not in the current calculator on the website, too. Maybe I am confusing something, but I summarised DFCF couple of times and it always shows a little bit different number on the website. If I am wrong, can you tell me why the Sum of DFCF is not accurate. P.S. I wanted to ask a question on the forum, but I have not found any options to start a discussion over there. Thank you for the attention
@ragunathgroups4037
@ragunathgroups4037 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the valuable lesson sir, ur a good teacher
@ajaykishan2183
@ajaykishan2183 3 жыл бұрын
I have a question here, I get DPCF of 93,174.24 by using this formula (last cf estimated) * ( 1 + perpetuity rate) / (discount rate - perpetuity rate) which is (6332 * 1.03) / (0.10-0.03). Can anyone please explain how preston got 90,773 here
@nickrudnicki6497
@nickrudnicki6497 4 жыл бұрын
What about amortization and depreciation? Can you do implement this as well when determining cash flow?
@shreyasdubey1594
@shreyasdubey1594 5 жыл бұрын
will this calculator be also valid for other currencies.
@sonnesonne6828
@sonnesonne6828 8 жыл бұрын
Hie Preston! Lesson 1, there is a part you mentioned that after Buffet has bought stocks of a company. Later he gets money month in month out from every profit of the goods sold, are you able to explain to me what you meant there, Thanks!
@jasonlobasso9868
@jasonlobasso9868 6 жыл бұрын
when calculating the average growth rate, whats the actual formula? besides using the online calculator.
@frankrockstar4209
@frankrockstar4209 4 жыл бұрын
Best videos ever .. thumbs up if u r watching this videos during codvid 19 pandemic
@drmsgp
@drmsgp 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, I got this quote for AMTD The intrinsic value per share is $45.36 at a 11.00% annual discount rate Based on the cash flows you have forecasted and a market price of $38.07, this company may yield a -146.80% annual return what does the - return mean at a lower price ?!
@luckyliyou
@luckyliyou 10 жыл бұрын
十分感谢您辛苦更新的视频,无私的分享您的知识,希望有更多的视频,感激。
@rahulramchandani5432
@rahulramchandani5432 5 жыл бұрын
Whats the calculation you do to find out the intrinsic value per share of the company after inserting the shares outstanding?
@needviola
@needviola 10 жыл бұрын
Dear Preston, Do you think that the DCF value method is more accurate than the Book Value per share method?
@needviola
@needviola 10 жыл бұрын
According to dcf aig is a huge bargain, however 2008 technically makes it ineligible for your warren approach. (Due to the hug instibility in the past 10 years) That being said, was 2008 just the right kind of "fear" that would entice warren to gobble up a company like aig.
@needviola
@needviola 10 жыл бұрын
Sorry to ask a specific question. I just cant figure it out. Thank you so much for all your info. You are a blessing.
@needviola
@needviola 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you#!!!!
@subhankar2806
@subhankar2806 6 жыл бұрын
Sir will you please add some more currency option like (rupees ...as m frm india) in your calculator....please....
@angjelosmane9025
@angjelosmane9025 4 жыл бұрын
The MSN money layout has changed and the 10 year historical data is no more supported. What do you guys use for this particular reason? (I have been taking the data from the Annual Reports but it is very time consuming) Every suggestion would be appreciated,
@dr.ramytharwat6720
@dr.ramytharwat6720 Жыл бұрын
Did you find an answer for that?
@angjelosmane9025
@angjelosmane9025 Жыл бұрын
@@dr.ramytharwat6720 I would still appreciate alternatives. Thank you!
@vitbicevoid6762
@vitbicevoid6762 10 жыл бұрын
This calculator its simply amazing Preston. :)
@krystarise7021
@krystarise7021 9 жыл бұрын
I used the calculator and this is what it said, The intrinsic value per share is $48.17 at a 10.00% annual discount rate Based on the cash flows you have forecasted and a market price of $58.73, this company may yield a 8.78% annual return. I would like to know if this is a good number.
@yackovbanash2854
@yackovbanash2854 6 жыл бұрын
Hey everyone I know I'm late to the party my question is which site to use to research financial becouse msn money is clearly not as good as it looks like in these videos and 2nd which stock screener is good becouse I cant find the google one
@freethemz
@freethemz 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing this useful data! Greatly apprecaited.
@MrWinstonyap
@MrWinstonyap 6 жыл бұрын
Dear Mr Preston, I would like to ask that based on the above calculator, the above showed is RM 90773. However, based on the formula of perpetuity cash flow value = Cash of last year X (1+ perpetuity growth rate) / ( Discount Rate - perpetuity growth rate). Then, it would be RM 16401 X 1,03/ ( 0.1-0.03)= 241329. After that, we discount it to today value. 241329/ (1.03^10) = RM 93177.22. So, now I am headache where I got the wrong formula, or any things I miss out. Really need your advice.
@WarriornM
@WarriornM 5 жыл бұрын
Hey! Did you solve it? I can't get my head around the formula
@aaronbarber6816
@aaronbarber6816 4 жыл бұрын
In your initial formula, you should use 6,332 not 16,401. I think the difference in your final answer is caused by rounding errors. You got the right formula
@kodjigarpp
@kodjigarpp 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for such clear and good quality content videos :)
@tonycosta3336
@tonycosta3336 3 жыл бұрын
Had you ever made money using this formula?
@ReyPeon
@ReyPeon 7 жыл бұрын
Hi, do you know why the 10% discount rate?
@MuradinsLootship
@MuradinsLootship 7 жыл бұрын
vintagevalueinvesting.com/how-to-determine-a-discount-rate/
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