You know Joel is buggin when riv has to stick up for Tatum😭
@perspective328 ай бұрын
That joker/ SGA convo was hilarious and frustrating at the same time 😂
@wayneverhoff27909 ай бұрын
I’m literally an OKC fan and this SGA debate is hurting my brain. Let the man prove it in the playoffs first. Having him over KD is delusional!
@chefmeechi6179 ай бұрын
Joel showed us in 4k the hypocrisy on tatum discourse 😭😭😭
@micahseufale90579 ай бұрын
Joel needa come to earth
@theroninmike60179 ай бұрын
I think Joel’s Tatum hate is as bad as his delusional love (at the time) for Zac Wilson when he was drafted.
@titusbeard70249 ай бұрын
this man said SHAI IS MORE PRODUCTIVE THAN JOKIC…..nah you wildin bro🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️ 46:00
@pickaside9 ай бұрын
This year you can make the case. Look at SGA’s numbers. The efficiency at what he’s doing it at. The two way prowess. The fact that his team is so young yet top 2 in the west. What we’re seeing is rare
@danielguerrero70149 ай бұрын
Jokic is the mvp leader and sga has to outplay jokic if you think okc can make the nba finals
@DammitBobby9 ай бұрын
@@pickasideJokic has higher DBPM then Shai. Jokic had been great defensively this year.
@pickaside9 ай бұрын
@@DammitBobby SGA has the highest EPM
@barsbarsbarz9 ай бұрын
@@DammitBobby man Jokic is a top 5 defender of all time according to DBPM. he owns that stat, it's not a reliable measurement of defense.
@nando53409 ай бұрын
One of the biggest flaws in Joel’s identity as a sport talk host is that he believes you can’t criticize a player if you are a fan of that player
@robersonsheppard92689 ай бұрын
And he’s very biased to “His guys” in the nfl and nba and whoever he decides he’s not a fan of he says there not good at what they do like that’s bullshit for example Brock purdy
@nando53409 ай бұрын
It started SGA vs Tatum for a second and it went to SGA vs Joker lol
@GeneralEatsMotors9 ай бұрын
Skill set argument is crazy. Kyrie has the best skill set in the league, and no one would say he’s one the of the best players. Kyrie is my favorite player too.
@eazymb.9 ай бұрын
Dudes really hate Jayson Tatum bro 😂
@howdareyouexist9 ай бұрын
troel came out strong today
@Shortballa119 ай бұрын
Y’all crazy for not mentioning Joel Embiid in the top 5.
@pemp96069 ай бұрын
This idea that Tatum completely out performed Giannis in 2022 baffles me😂 where Giannis’s third option offensively was Brook Lopez and his second option shot 36% from the field. Giannis almost had to put up 40 points to win every game. This Giannis hate/revisionist history is not it
@zithobiletshirana44619 ай бұрын
I wish someone will correct them on this statement on that game 6 Giannis had 44pts on 20rb
@Kentrell7789 ай бұрын
I think they were talking about 1 game as opposed to the series
@pemp96068 ай бұрын
@@Kentrell778 but they always say “Oh well Tatum out performed Giannis in the playoffs” Sure, any superstar can have an edge over another any given night. But how they say it makes it seem like Tatum just bitched Giannis, where that was not the case
@Jaycheong959 ай бұрын
Nuggets can easily match SGA with Jamal murray with Jokic being unstoppable.
@symelolol9 ай бұрын
tatum is one of the most overhated and disrespected players in history
@LSUHutz8 ай бұрын
i think you mean overrated
@joacoT239 ай бұрын
Shai is having a MVP season its different that just saying he is having a good season
@losangelescardinals9 ай бұрын
Imagine cooking the shit out of some team in a basketball game and one of the dudes you’re playing against wants to talk about how Tua would be the greatest Broncos QB since Elway or how the Lakers are so back once they make another big offseason move
@Ant-Man6129 ай бұрын
Joel we got the Love Boat ready for you on Lake Minnetonka. We’re about to party like Prince in 1999 when the Wolves win this chip. Y’all should shoot the podcast live from the wolves parade
@pickaside9 ай бұрын
It’s all love in Minnesota 🫶
@noisynumbuh49 ай бұрын
the sga/thunder discourse is so annoying it's like everyone talks about us with the most pessimistic viewpoint. joel is right about yall were disrespecting okc😂
@noisynumbuh48 ай бұрын
i skipped the first half and now listening to it back its crazy how niggas really think the fucking pelicans can fw okc😭
@SuperNova233339 ай бұрын
I really hope OKC doesnt get eliminated round 1 or Joel will never live this down.
@KP-sh9he9 ай бұрын
1:09:25 dawg was fed up “I don’t wanna get no team shit”😂😂
@Fool4Mimo9 ай бұрын
“Outplayed Giannis” is crazy when you realize that Giannis push the series to 7 missing his 2nd best player and the best player next to him was a Jrue Holiday shooting 36%. Tatum fans really try to push him too much that’s why he gets slandered
@slicksfn1278 ай бұрын
Tatum dropped 10 points in game 3 🤣🤣
@wwenexusfan9089 ай бұрын
Shai is definitely not “clearly” better than Tatum (great content tho Joel lol) but as far the superior offensive player, I’d give Shai a slight edge. His driving and mid range efficiency clearly make him the better heliocentric option for 82 games. In the playoffs, I do think Tatum’s size and microwave shotmaking would give him the edge for me in addition to slightly better playmaking. We saw when the teams matched up, Shai was having his way with the Celtics, getting wherever he wanted. The C’s only slowed him down late when they put their best, biggest wing defender, Tatum, on him. In the playoffs, an elite wing defender is only thing I can see disrupting Shai’s elite middle game and forcing him to pass, and there’s a number of them out West.
@KarmaxR9 ай бұрын
Gotta have two elite wing defenders then cuz if you throw your main guy on shai then who’s checking jdub
@Jfloo-r9k8 ай бұрын
No way you just said Tatum a better playmaker lmao
@wwenexusfan9088 ай бұрын
@@Jfloo-r9k he is, slightly.
@glenn88869 ай бұрын
Love the show as always❤
@kylebasile79138 ай бұрын
I hate the narrative that people trust minnesota more then okc when okc has a top 5 defense. It makes no sense how u trust a team that much more when the difference is so minor. the offense is what should be talked about more in the matchup. okc is also a top 5 offense and have some of the most consistent role players when minnesota shorts out regularly in the 4th. just makes no sense
@joshuacezere9 ай бұрын
Joel is hilarious 😂😂😂
@Fool4Mimo9 ай бұрын
Honestly with Jokic vs SGA talk yall got a little nasty. OBVIOUSLY Joker is better than SGA but to say OKC has a 0% chance to beat the nuggets because of strictly Jokic when OKC definitely has the perimeter defense to slow down every one else then why even try to say any team can beat them when NO top team has the players to stop Jokic? Does it apply to everyone?
@Fool4Mimo9 ай бұрын
I’m not saying the Thunder would win the series but to say there is no reality where it’s even possible is just disingenuous. I better not hear anyone on the show pick anyone else to win the chip except Denver or we just being inconsistent
@nate93299 ай бұрын
Saying SGA already “clears” Tatum is ridiculous
@Sawyer_Bennett9 ай бұрын
Tatum has never outplayed Giannis stop it
@tyriantaylor7119 ай бұрын
He 2-1 against Giannis
@nathanwel86609 ай бұрын
@@tyriantaylor711doesn’t mean he outplayed him smartpants
@kyriediculous34139 ай бұрын
He literally dropped 46 pts in game 6 while being down 3-2 and at an away game. Then blew out the bucks and giannis in game 7, tf we doing here lol.
@chefmeechi6179 ай бұрын
Only 1 series he have but ion remember if that was when khris was hurt or not
@nathanwel86609 ай бұрын
@@kyriediculous3413 this is just stupidity, Giannis took them to a game 7 without Middleton. Tatum was better for 2 games while Giannis was better throughout the whole series. You just brought up irrelevant points.
@cr7chilln4069 ай бұрын
Joel is the skip Bayless of the podcast lol
@LetsPlayerAshe9 ай бұрын
I now see why folks call sga overrated lol
@glenn88869 ай бұрын
SGA is of course better than Tatum in my opinion. Unless SGA play very terrible in the playoffs, their regular season gap is too big for me
@glenn88869 ай бұрын
And tbh, I think SGA has played better than Jokic in this regular season, I will vote SGA for MVP now. Jokic still the better player, but I think SGA performs slightly better so far in the regular season
@tyriantaylor7119 ай бұрын
In terms of regular season performance yes , but only because of the teams they are on , if Tatum didn’t have Porzingis and Holidag , he averaging over 30 a game with almost 10 rebounds and close to maybe 6-7 assist. In the Playoffs we know they Tatum can blow to blow with other great players cause we seen that happen , SGA hasn’t yet and had a chance to prove it
@BrasiB_8 ай бұрын
Joel is a prisoner of the moment
@Ltnuggetv39 ай бұрын
historically young teams have done nothing in the nba. u HAVE to get playoff experience.
@DavidBrown-nc7zw9 ай бұрын
Other than MAYBE defense what does Tatum do better than shai? Shai is better at literally everything. I don't think it's crazy to say Shai clears Tatum when he's literally better at almost everything.
@livingwjerm79509 ай бұрын
Hate on us now, we will come back to this soon
@vernonhenderson78109 ай бұрын
Let’s go PAS
@TEZEM0N8 ай бұрын
joel loves to troll his boys LMAO
@KP-sh9he9 ай бұрын
1:00:21 nobody could believe what they was hearing look at everyone faces. My dawg Joel Moran aka Mr.FlipaSide himself you out down yourself once again
@mbsneaks46949 ай бұрын
MR FLIP A SIDE INDEEEEEEEEED
@santivalenzuela149 ай бұрын
“Okay you got me there” 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@gaberush99819 ай бұрын
D book played like 99 ovr in 2k and Jokic still beat them
@NarcGasol8 ай бұрын
don’t know why we’re writing off Brandon Ingram
@damiendelgado40449 ай бұрын
Next live?
@pickaside9 ай бұрын
Whenever something big time happens
@brokenelevatorpitch26108 ай бұрын
Dehls I want to issue an apology to you sir. I have definitely hated on your "celtics bias" but now I see how Joel just finds anyway to hate on them I'd be annoying about my team up there as well if I had to deal with that shit 😂😂
@jeziahcooper66599 ай бұрын
These guys clearly haven’t watched ANT play this year
@liamnicol93908 ай бұрын
That man Giannis had zero help in the boston series lmao far and away the best player in that series, not game 6 and 7 tho tbf
@Superaioga49 ай бұрын
I disagree with Joel on these SGA takes especially since we have yet to see these playoffs, butt thats just my opinion
@chefmeechi6179 ай бұрын
Thats the #1 issue with this SGA discourse 😭😭😭
@soulonland61909 ай бұрын
You can tell these dudes don't watch Antman games. The players know 💯
@mbsneaks46949 ай бұрын
Bro joel must be smoking crack g kd Tatum and kawhi are all better than sga
@BrasiB_8 ай бұрын
Riv “curve game” pause bro 😂😂😂
@kalvincatugas75938 ай бұрын
SGA is nothing until he proves it in the playoffs….😊
@therealtonyason9 ай бұрын
bro i been a okc fan since kd russ and harden and joel is trippin 😂our ceiling is the WCF if we play denver we are not winning. i’m confident vs everybody else in the west but if you’re a fan of any western conference team you know that the nuggets are the only real team that’s ahead of the pack and then it’s everybody else bc of that man the Joker
@yeehaw64139 ай бұрын
drew in his muslim bag
@pickaside9 ай бұрын
???
@soopss66409 ай бұрын
Lol I saw it too💀
@uhhjxyden86579 ай бұрын
Joel can’t talk basketball anymore after this
@xristoskarasoulis75808 ай бұрын
Sga is not losing to Caleb Martin and Andrew Wiggins
@bencrabtree56478 ай бұрын
How do you call pelicans the biggest frauds when they’ve beaten the Kings 4 times already this season. At least can’t ignore that
@andrewacosta97099 ай бұрын
Thank you Riv , so tired of the SGA glaze
@ashamsthomas24909 ай бұрын
Joel really lost it in this one
@dacoryowens149 ай бұрын
SGA is better than embiid?
@YvngboiiGoated9 ай бұрын
5:10 “ I mean your 0-6” 😂
@boubacardiallo59459 ай бұрын
Booker cleared AD in the match up wtf was I hearing
@krisjohnson28039 ай бұрын
Throw those AF1s away 😂😂😂
@willsportz8 ай бұрын
Dehls hates the pelicans😂
@Najo8178 ай бұрын
SGA has the shiny new toy effect going right now
@mbsneaks46949 ай бұрын
Bruh that is a horrendous take from joel sga is tiers below jokic
@maddestmax40758 ай бұрын
I get Joel’s role he’s playing but man
@krisjohnson28039 ай бұрын
Thunder up 3-1 this season series btw
@carloslopez66759 ай бұрын
Joel has the best takes and best knowledge in sports here not biased
@bathbwoy229 ай бұрын
joel such a clown when he does these delusional ass 1v3s
@otlchaud92799 ай бұрын
JT must’ve slipped Joel Moran cause he is a generational hater
@vertisalexander73358 ай бұрын
Bruh sga is great but he's not jokic or tatum
@josueselengembuly36979 ай бұрын
Tatum never outplayed Giannis what the hell drew smoking 😂2022 Giannis was the best player in the world until Steph won that dude was averaging 34 14 7 and yes wasn’t his best shooting series but he was without kmidd so yee they tripping 😂
@Barnzee249 ай бұрын
Your guys Rec team is just the Atlanta hawks 😂
@soulonland61909 ай бұрын
These dudes is stats worshipers. Are they nuts? Antman is way better than Mitchell.... Smh. Ask the players in the league who is better. Hands down it's Antman. Antman is a 2 way player. Debate done.
@blaxson109 ай бұрын
We all know when it comes to Joels favorite player/team any given season Joel has on rose colored glasses. Don't take his takes too serious. If it doesn't pan out he'll jump off the wagon next season.😂😂😂
@betweendalinesnbapodcast37339 ай бұрын
Joel has a lot of bad takes and as a REAL SGA fan this might be the worse one 😂 and i know it only comes from hate and agenda spreading. He dont believe nun of the shit he said. I hope…
@Tyblake027 ай бұрын
4:10 Lol
@soulonland61909 ай бұрын
Antman is #1 in the west and is guarding centers. He shut down Jaren Jackson last night. How does his stellar defense not get recognized? That separates him from SGA, Luka and Tatum. It's not close. Put Mitchell on that USA team and Kerr and the players would still tell you Antman is different 💯
@jc02579 ай бұрын
Tatum not even close to sga
@Kentrell7789 ай бұрын
Tatum better
@tyriantaylor7119 ай бұрын
This is why some people don’t deserve an opinion
@jc02579 ай бұрын
@@Kentrell778 no one wants that brick to be on their team. We all know Boston gonna lose in the ecf