357 Magnum Vs. 38 Special In Snub Nose Revolvers

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@SVTBansheeman
@SVTBansheeman 4 жыл бұрын
I do believe the advantages of 357, but the recoil is too much for me. I have no problems admitting that.
@danielaramburo7648
@danielaramburo7648 4 жыл бұрын
In a medium frame revolver it’s ok. In a snub nose, it’s a little painful sometimes.
@thesmallestminorityisthein4045
@thesmallestminorityisthein4045 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone must fit their weapon to them, and anyone who tries to shoot too much gun is only fooling themselves.
@johnnypop5235
@johnnypop5235 4 жыл бұрын
Ruger LCR, not bad at all with full power loads.
@danielaramburo7648
@danielaramburo7648 4 жыл бұрын
@@thesmallestminorityisthein4045 correct. You must find the gun that fits your physical strength limits and features desired. My hot 357 is not everyone, but if all you can handle is a 22 lr, then do the best with it, practice.
@jacobg7966
@jacobg7966 3 жыл бұрын
@svtbansheeman I have a kimber k6s and even with the heavy steel frame and the fat rubber grip i put on it the 357s are still no fun to shoot lol
@WheelgunsOnWheels
@WheelgunsOnWheels 4 жыл бұрын
Very well demonstrated. Thanks for not bashing the efficacy of the .38 special round. I carry .38’s and am confidently accurate with them. I’m certain that being on the other end of what I’m shooting would be an awful place to be. With only one working hand and a J frame the .38 is a hit whereas the .357 is only a maybe.
@strat1080
@strat1080 2 жыл бұрын
It’s not so much that you can’t make a hit with the 357. Just that follow up shots are significantly slower with 357 because the muzzle jumps so much off target
@terrarecon
@terrarecon 11 ай бұрын
@@strat1080 He spoke from his personal experience with being limited to only one hand. His statement is valid for his personal experience.
@charles2675
@charles2675 11 ай бұрын
A 38.. as you know. A Cop gun for over 50 year's sure there our many under this 🪦🌹🪦 . 38. Great gun ..deadly
@exquisitearangement
@exquisitearangement 4 жыл бұрын
Best part, no brass on the ground.
@morganwells567
@morganwells567 4 жыл бұрын
Leave the gun, take the cannoli
@MrLiesAngeles
@MrLiesAngeles 4 жыл бұрын
@@morganwells567 So many will not understand that......But I did and appreciate it.
@Jdowling357
@Jdowling357 4 жыл бұрын
@@morganwells567 +p g.father reference 😃👍
@salfox1820
@salfox1820 4 жыл бұрын
@@morganwells567 exactly what I thought of
@chadloverofliberty6486
@chadloverofliberty6486 4 жыл бұрын
Great topic. Keep up the good work
@Junior-fd8ux
@Junior-fd8ux 4 жыл бұрын
That view on your dock is priceless brother. Love your videos.
@TheGunfighter45acp
@TheGunfighter45acp 4 жыл бұрын
Can't stop drooling over that 5" 686!
@ryanweiss1721
@ryanweiss1721 4 жыл бұрын
I have a 4in 686+. Highly recommended.
@thatguysky123
@thatguysky123 4 жыл бұрын
@@kanekadn5533 lmfao fuckin love this comment 🤣😂
@BillB23
@BillB23 4 жыл бұрын
I keep kicking myself for selling my 6" 686. The sucker had trigger work done on it and was sweet.
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 4 жыл бұрын
3-5-7 series 686 comes with 3" and 5" and 7" barrels, unfluted cylinder, and +1 capacity.
@scubaguy007
@scubaguy007 4 жыл бұрын
@@ryanweiss1721 I love my 3" 686+. I highly recommend it. 😉
@jackbauer9077
@jackbauer9077 4 жыл бұрын
Good video! A good middle ground is Speer gold dot 135 grain low recoil.357 mag. It feels like a 38+p++ but performance is great.
@johnmount1622
@johnmount1622 4 жыл бұрын
I have an LCR in 357, my edc round is a 125 grain xtp in front of 21 grains of H110. At 7 yards it punched through a piece of guardrail, that’s all the math I need. Love your videos.
@MoxJet629
@MoxJet629 2 жыл бұрын
H110 is way to slow burning for such a short barrel. Half of that powder is flying out the pipe unburnt.
@joebarrett5310
@joebarrett5310 4 жыл бұрын
Great video 👍🏻 I don't know where that myth started or why it became so prominent... Yes, shorter barrel reduces the gains you get with the 357 over 38spl, but fact is the 357 operates at significantly higher pressure to begin with regardless of barrel length. Solid advice about using what you can comfortably shoot. Well done Sir
@cowboyx9380
@cowboyx9380 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been on the job over 25 years, and recently replaced my S&W 637 with a 360, and can verify this video is exactly why i did. Since i have been a ppc competitor years, and reload 38 target loads, practice with the pew pew loads is easy. The pick up in raw stopping power from the 357 is absolutely worth it. The S&W 360 series offers the exact same size, same weight or lighter, and double the power....it’s a no brainer!
@mohammedcohen
@mohammedcohen 4 ай бұрын
...I bought an M&P 340 a couple of years ago...and I'm IMPRESSED!!!
@ETC_Rohaly_USCG
@ETC_Rohaly_USCG 4 жыл бұрын
Funny enough, I was looking at a 357 yesterday and today... excellent timing of this video!!!
@oldcop18
@oldcop18 4 жыл бұрын
I keep my 340PD loaded w/+P b/c it’s too hard to get quick & accurate follow up shots w/.357. I survived three deadly attacks w/my issued thirty-eight and know it’s very capable of doing the job w/proper shot placement. You’re right, only hits count.
@jamesnicol3831
@jamesnicol3831 2 жыл бұрын
real world comment
@josephhiggins7216
@josephhiggins7216 Ай бұрын
I'm glad you're still with us. I agree that shot placement is critical. Modern training methods put too much emphasis on putting as many rounds downrange as fast as possible with the high capacity 9mm semi autos. We come from a time when we were taught to make every shot count. I'd be willing to bet you unconsciously count your shots, too. The younger instructors at the range give me a hard time about my .45 and the revolvers with their shorter round count. I usually counter with, " What if you've only got time for one shot?"
@oldcop18
@oldcop18 Ай бұрын
@ You’re right, I do count even when watching videos since my ‘97 retirement. I knew when my revolver ran dry in a ‘74 gunfight so I was able to reload quickly & get right back in the fight.
@rickvestuto
@rickvestuto 4 жыл бұрын
I love my 340PD for pocket carry and it always has 357 in it
@IronChefNC
@IronChefNC 3 жыл бұрын
Always go for wheel gun in .357, u can always downsize the load, u can't go in reverse with .38
@skowmi5681
@skowmi5681 3 жыл бұрын
The word “Always” does not apply to all situations or personal preference or abilities.
@DrJohnTaylorKent
@DrJohnTaylorKent 2 жыл бұрын
But a constant diet of the shorter cartridge in the longer chamber results in more leading, more fouling and much more difficult cleaning!
@Nick_5670
@Nick_5670 5 ай бұрын
Im pretty sure a 357 can “always” take 38 special. And that’s what he’s saying. It’s got nothing to do with preference or ability. Buy the 357 if you wanna shoot 38 shoot 38
@sirnoah5887
@sirnoah5887 11 ай бұрын
Very informative, and awesome pointers, this really helped me decide my purchase thank you!
@Mrgunsngear
@Mrgunsngear 11 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@jamesecutler5230
@jamesecutler5230 Жыл бұрын
That was a real good summary comparing 357 to 9 mm and 38 special to 380.
@aukula1062
@aukula1062 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. I knew there would be a loss of velocity/energy with a snub but I think this video proves .357 even out of a short barrel can be an excellent carry choice. Thank you!
@ragequit42
@ragequit42 4 жыл бұрын
357 out of my snub nose makes me go "WHOOO" and in a self defense scenario, the fire ring could sent the attacker on fire
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 4 жыл бұрын
Flash-bang grenade that happens to have a bullet in it.
@JohnLloydScharf
@JohnLloydScharf 4 жыл бұрын
@@exothermal.sprocket Rounds in this light for size under 16 oz. snub nose are harder to produce good ballistic results with. When a full sized .357 fails to perform properly it seems to over-penetrate. With a snub nose, it tends to under penetrate. However, in real world self defense, the .357/.38 Special beats the 9mm out of the same size barrel. All handguns should have the mission of getting you to cover. If you need a 9mm capacity, it is because you are a bad shot and a danger to innocent bystanders.
@JohnLloydScharf
@JohnLloydScharf 4 жыл бұрын
Cops are a threat to public safety when they shoot 100 shots and hit no one they intended to: pamplinmedia.com/fgnt/36-news/127713-cannon-challenged-deputies-to-shoot-him
@jonboy9734
@jonboy9734 4 жыл бұрын
@@JohnLloydScharf my opinion, no such thing as over penetration.
@RealHank1791
@RealHank1791 4 жыл бұрын
My mother owns this gun. Indeed the recoil with 357 is very jarring. However, my dad with his 67 years of wisdom has never loaded it with a 357 when she practiced. It is loaded with 357 at all other times. The idea being, in the moment, if she ever has to use it, the adrenaline will more than compensate for the additional recoil.
@plumbbobslim9313
@plumbbobslim9313 4 жыл бұрын
I own a S&W 329pd in 44 mag, and those ultra light revolvers are a completely different animal compared to steel frames. No matter what chambering and loading they are brutal, but they sure are fun to shoot for that very reason.
@prepperoverwatch7965
@prepperoverwatch7965 4 жыл бұрын
Useful information. I split the difference and carry 110gr Hornady Critical Defense .38 +P loads in my new Taurus 605.
@danfabisac
@danfabisac 4 жыл бұрын
Every time I see you on the deck I wanna go fishing!
@Glocktuah
@Glocktuah 3 ай бұрын
Gay fishing?
@mychaelpierce8049
@mychaelpierce8049 4 жыл бұрын
Nice review. I have a 360PD Smith and I shot one .357 thru it and that was enough for me! I carry 38 plus P. Thanks for sharing.
@tomkelley9847
@tomkelley9847 4 жыл бұрын
"Only hits count." Most intelligent comment I've heard all week on The KZbin.
@Ghostrider-71
@Ghostrider-71 4 жыл бұрын
“Speed is fine, but Accuracy is final.” -Larry Vickers.
@johnnypop5235
@johnnypop5235 4 жыл бұрын
1 inch 5 shot groups at 21ft is not a problem with my Ruger LCR 357. I'd say that's accurate 😂 Mine is clocking 1200-1250fps with handloads.
@jexo2029
@jexo2029 3 жыл бұрын
Then you probably need to expand your recommendations
@tomkelley9847
@tomkelley9847 3 жыл бұрын
@@papimaximus95 Not in Anbar.
@1978garfield
@1978garfield 4 ай бұрын
"You can't miss fast enough to win a gun fight."
@wiltonsmith3397
@wiltonsmith3397 4 жыл бұрын
Nobody ever said: “Please don’t shoot me with the .357 Magnum!! Could you please shoot me with the .38 Special instead?”
@redwolf7807
@redwolf7807 4 жыл бұрын
Oswald said it. Regretted it, too. True story.
@joebarrett5310
@joebarrett5310 4 жыл бұрын
Right, but the effectiveness of 38spl is not what is being talked about with this video.
@jeramyw
@jeramyw 4 жыл бұрын
We need revolvers, among other designs, that have quick release barrels. More takedowns. Imagine turning a 2" into a 6" or into a smooth bore in a few seconds. (I've been informed that Dan Wesson did that.)
@itstime5390
@itstime5390 4 жыл бұрын
They did diff length barrels
@litesronno1shome
@litesronno1shome 4 жыл бұрын
they were not what i would call quick release, and a smooth bore? that i doubt they'd ever do.
@ftdefiance1
@ftdefiance1 4 жыл бұрын
It did
@jeramyw
@jeramyw 4 жыл бұрын
@@litesronno1shome For the 410. Options. As many options as possible.
@exquisitearangement
@exquisitearangement 4 жыл бұрын
My 340pd had a quick release barrel. It went down range on video.
@craparo6306
@craparo6306 4 жыл бұрын
I have a S&W 340 PD. I put a set of Crimson Trace Lasergrips, the LG-405 with a air pocket on top of the backstrap that is said to reduces felt recoil up to 30%. I still find the 357 magnum to be a bit harsh but I can shoot 38 +P ammo accurately with both left and right hands. They did make a difference and their good for practicing that double action only trigger pull.
@Lead_Ache_5
@Lead_Ache_5 4 жыл бұрын
Too much math I'll just take ur word for it 🤠🤙🇺🇸
@kyleb6762
@kyleb6762 Жыл бұрын
nice video, well organized and informative. thank you for giving us the breakdown of data at the end without going overboard on details
@diehard3926
@diehard3926 3 жыл бұрын
Have you noticed it when you express the caliber that you like or show people one of your favorite handguns all of a sudden you've got a Monday morning quarterback pocket expert that's one of the biggest critics that you've ever met
@robotbuster1487
@robotbuster1487 4 жыл бұрын
357 was developed in part to penetrate automobiles during the 1930s gangster era. Still a great choice for road rage settling.
@jacobackley502
@jacobackley502 4 жыл бұрын
357 was developed by Elmer Keith (originally as the 38/44) for hunting. Police work wasn't part of the equation until the 41 mag was being developed.
@828enigma6
@828enigma6 4 жыл бұрын
I prefer 357 Sig. Almost the same, with more rounds before reloading, and faster reloading.
@mw9984
@mw9984 4 жыл бұрын
.??
@357-swagnumultramagax9
@357-swagnumultramagax9 3 жыл бұрын
@@jacobackley502 and the police hated the almighty 41 😂
@jacobackley502
@jacobackley502 3 жыл бұрын
@@357-swagnumultramagax9 the poor 41, the redheaded stepchild of the magnums
@GeezerWheels
@GeezerWheels 3 жыл бұрын
GREAT VID!!! People need this info because, as you pointed out, there is so much mis-information "out there." I've reloaded for several decades and I recall in interesting comparison in the old Speer #7 reloading manual from the 1960s (or 70s?). The folks at Speer made a similar point about 2 inch .38 vs .357 with handloads from their manual. As they pointed out, the .357 wasters a LOT of powder in muzzle flash - however it still had significantly more power than .38 Special loads when 2 inch barrels are used for both. For MY cup of tea, I'll leave full house .357s for heavier, all steel guns - I'm a few years past retirement age and recoil is becoming a factor. But I'm quite glad I can still shoot magnums at all! Thanks again / you do great vids.
@tazerface8659
@tazerface8659 4 жыл бұрын
Newton's Third Law can be a bit painful sometimes.
@johnqpublic2718
@johnqpublic2718 4 жыл бұрын
But the second has nothing to do with the force applied to the shooter's hand, wrist, arm........
@imnotbuddha
@imnotbuddha 4 жыл бұрын
@@johnqpublic2718 ?
@JohnLloydScharf
@JohnLloydScharf 4 жыл бұрын
@@johnqpublic2718 Wrong. The force is applied to the mass of the firearm. The weight of the firearm is the determining factor. See Chuck Hawks work. www.chuckhawks.com/handgun_recoil_table.htm
@JohnLloydScharf
@JohnLloydScharf 4 жыл бұрын
@@imnotbuddha He's trolling. When they use absolutes like "nothing," the probability is high they are an ignorant troll.
@TheRed6263
@TheRed6263 4 жыл бұрын
Love the channel by the way. And thank you for your service, one brother to another.
@ramonesparza8707
@ramonesparza8707 2 ай бұрын
Excellent info on the video as usual. Been on the fence for use for backup, inched me closer. Thanks
@uclajd
@uclajd 4 жыл бұрын
The recoil of full 357's in an SP101 is fierce; can't even imagine those little scandium airweights.
@gunsandcommissions
@gunsandcommissions 4 жыл бұрын
It's brutal. I used to own an SP101 and there was definitely a difference between 38s and 357s. 357s out of a scandium framed pistol is ridiculous
@allmac600
@allmac600 4 жыл бұрын
Recoil on the 340PD is stout, but I've never once said to myself "Ughhh...I dont feel like carrying my 340PD today". Program compliance is way too easy with that gun.
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 4 жыл бұрын
Find you an aluminum bat. With your bare hand, swing that sucker with a hard grip on the handle against a heavy flag pole. That's about the sensation.
@23degrees
@23degrees 4 жыл бұрын
it's all about fit. really. I can fire a 3 inch sp101 with full house 357 more comfortably than I can a stock K frame in .357 Why? the ruger **fits** - the smith (without modification) doesn't
@precisionanglingYT
@precisionanglingYT 4 жыл бұрын
I have the 340, it’s brutal!!
@LESPAUL44mag
@LESPAUL44mag 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, but I'll say the .357 magnum has a much bigger punch than the 9mm. The mid 300s (energy foot lbs) you got out of the snub nose are close to 9mm in a full size pistols. The 600s you got in the .357 5" were much higher numbers than I've ever seen in a 9mm.
@shikat2371
@shikat2371 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Based on this comparison though, .357s out of a 2" barrel aren't any more powerful than the 9mm+ps and, with some high-end loads like Buffalo Bore, they can actually outperform the .357s by a significant margin. So, is all that recoil worth it? If .357 mag is something I wanna actually carry around, I'd rather have a revolver with a 3" barrel. That extra inch in barrel length will make a huge difference over the 2" in velocity and muzzle energy.
@michaeldavis2833
@michaeldavis2833 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the well researched video. You helped me make an informed 38 special purchase.
@skyraider1776
@skyraider1776 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much for an outstanding video. As a long time revolver shooter, you cover the actual real-world advantages and disadvantages between the two rounds. Well done !
@tross8908
@tross8908 3 жыл бұрын
Another problem with shooting the 357 in a defensive situation, especially indoors, is that the noise will likely blow out your eardrums. Stick with the 38 Special HST rounds.
@Glasshopper
@Glasshopper 2 жыл бұрын
From experience I can say that indoors the smoke is a bigger issue than the noise.
@stringbean9521
@stringbean9521 2 жыл бұрын
What if you’re already like 2/3 deaf??
@scottphipps3577
@scottphipps3577 Жыл бұрын
I think the whole eardrums being blown out is overstated. I have been prone next to a guy firing a 240 without ear pro. While it was unpleasant, my eardrums were not blown out. I don't think a 357 mag even indoors is going to be louder than that.
@jeffro2430
@jeffro2430 Жыл бұрын
@Scott Phipps same and I hurried and found some crusty ahhhh foam ones in this guard tower to throw in my ears.
@Dan-di9jd
@Dan-di9jd Жыл бұрын
What a horrible advice that could get someone killed. Would your rather be deaf or dead?
@MrJamestreynolds
@MrJamestreynolds 4 жыл бұрын
When I think of a wheel gun I think of using it at spitting distances. Greatest advantage of it is the reliability and the fact that you can put the muzzle on something without your firearm going out of battery (if someone is grappling with you). I'm not super worried about engaging someone 10 yards away or more or I'd be carrying a semi auto with much higher capacity
@snek9353
@snek9353 4 жыл бұрын
Sure the battery thing is mostly true, but you ignore the cylinder gap. You shoot a 357 mag with the gun close in like that you're likely to injure yourself badly. The out of battery thing can be in part solved by selection and completely solved by not pressing it into them. The gap issue can't be solved, the only way to safely fire a revolver is with it out front.
@arikjohnson412
@arikjohnson412 10 ай бұрын
My EDC is a Dagger Micro, Shield Plus or P365 AIWB but I just picked up a 340PD as a jacket pocket backup gun, transitioning to my anti-carjacker cross draw piece when behind the wheel and (as a 9mm pistol shooter) was wondering about which load to carry when this 3+ year old vid came up! This setup also makes interstate vacations a little easier to manage. Thanks for settling things for me 🙏
@Paelorian
@Paelorian 4 жыл бұрын
A good compromise round between these two for snubbies is 9mm. Arguably a ballistic sweet spot and the ammo is certainly affordable, available, and effective. That's what I'd pick for a moderately heavy snubnose revolver if I was shooting a lot and not reloading. Otherwise I like the .32 Magnum, especially for those extremely lightweight revolvers.
@joem5639
@joem5639 4 жыл бұрын
The extra weight of my Ruger SP101 snubbie handles 357 pretty well. Still prefer +P in it though.
@sleepthoughamostqruelandde1116
@sleepthoughamostqruelandde1116 3 ай бұрын
I love the 357....but i just cannot get past a finch i developed from shooting the round as a small kid and because of that i carry 38special! For my edc and carry my 357 when i go hunting or hiking deep in the woods or to like Atlanta 😂😂😂 My edc is a charter arms 38special undercover i inherited from my great grandfather. It was his back up duty weapon 4 qlmost 30byears. Great vid thanks
@sebenro12
@sebenro12 4 жыл бұрын
Not burning up that precious 9mm and 5.56 these days. Smart.
@iliftthingsupandputthemdow4364
@iliftthingsupandputthemdow4364 4 жыл бұрын
You'd be surprised i just bought a 38. Spl revolver and can't find ANY ammo whereas the shops here have 9mm and 5.56
@PepeDeezNutz
@PepeDeezNutz 4 жыл бұрын
@@iliftthingsupandputthemdow4364 false
@FishFind3000
@FishFind3000 4 жыл бұрын
@@iliftthingsupandputthemdow4364 I can’t find .223, .38, 357 and some others. I wanna buy a henry side loader but there’s no damn 357 to shoot it with.
@joelruder2857
@joelruder2857 4 жыл бұрын
@@FishFind3000 i handloaded 158 grain hollow points for my 357. Do enough digging on internet you can find components to handload. Took me couple weeks to get what I needed.
@x-calibearusallc
@x-calibearusallc 4 жыл бұрын
@@joelruder2857 I’ve got two 38’s and no 357, however I have plenty of components to load them.
@regislacomme5238
@regislacomme5238 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, great review and comparo. greetings from Still Bay , South Africa.
@virendermohan6870
@virendermohan6870 2 жыл бұрын
The clearest, to the point, objective narration and presentation that I have ever seen. The comparison was presented in a clear lusid form. Devoid of mumbo Jumbo Congratulations.
@paulfryejr2918
@paulfryejr2918 Жыл бұрын
Good test, interesting results. Thanks.
@jpoeng
@jpoeng 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a kimber k6s snub, great gun but the Underwood loads really get your attention with the wood grips. 😆 I’ve got some full wrap Hogue’s on the way. Lol
@steelshooter2289
@steelshooter2289 4 жыл бұрын
I have the smith in the video and shot some Underwood extreme penetrators through it. I managed 4 before I quit. The recoil out of that is worse than a 460
@KevinSmithdc
@KevinSmithdc 4 жыл бұрын
I have the same gun. It's great!!! I once shot a cylinder full of 357's out of it. I'll never do that again. LOL
@andrewoussenko
@andrewoussenko 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for the review. Great analysis.
@JamesgnuoY1
@JamesgnuoY1 3 жыл бұрын
Great info! Thanks for breaking it down!
@garrettjaneski6209
@garrettjaneski6209 4 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking about revolvers and contrasting caliber performance in my brain as I stepped outside earlier with my .38 Taurus 685 PP loaded with standard pressure, 165 gr. Hornady Critical Defense rounds in my shorts pocket. A little bit of time later, here's a video on exactly that! Cool coincidence! Now, I'd like to go "arm up" to a hotter .38 round for less lousy performance values lol. I appreciate the useful, simple-to-digest information conveyed here. This is great to know for those carrying an old, but gold, snubby as a deep cover pocket "toss it in there and go" and/or backup handgun. To be there as a last resort, easier to employ alternative to a pistol that the mag release, or worse yet lighter-to-pull trigger, can get bumped and accidentally engaged from inside a pocket or beneath clothing like a uniform shirt over a concealed armor vest holster, pant leg concealing a boot-top ankle holster, or from under an outer coat.
@mrkjone2007
@mrkjone2007 3 жыл бұрын
Best snubby 38/357 comparison and explanation ever.
@mikewerden4056
@mikewerden4056 4 жыл бұрын
Mike you are a stud. Best advice in my opinion is advising MOST people not to shoot hot 357 mag out of S&W 340. It would pop out of MOST peoples hands with those rounds. Model 60 as you said is a different animal. Great info.
@rfdsrd
@rfdsrd 4 жыл бұрын
Consistent accuracy under all conditions is all that matters - think worse case scenario, weak hand only.
@rfdsrd
@rfdsrd 4 жыл бұрын
@Big Mike No, strong hand down for the count. Doh.
@revv45acp71
@revv45acp71 7 ай бұрын
Very informative! Thank you!
@stonegiant4
@stonegiant4 4 жыл бұрын
The 357 nay sayers act like the extra flash and concussion isn't useful. But when you want to flashbang the guy your shooting it's a win/win.
@thesmallestminorityisthein4045
@thesmallestminorityisthein4045 4 жыл бұрын
Flashbangs work both ways
@MDpolo
@MDpolo 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for another well done and informative video.
@hugostiglitz9864
@hugostiglitz9864 4 жыл бұрын
I have a S&W 340PD. I had it ported and added an Ergo Delta grip. Full boat .357 still not fun to shoot but much more manageable than before. One thing to note when shooting .357 in such a light pistol. I have experienced bullet creep with several different brands of ammo. Something to think about in a self defense situation as the revolver locks up and won't fire.
@happyamerican3235
@happyamerican3235 2 жыл бұрын
I also have had a bullet jump out of crimp and lock the cylinder from rotating. I’m sticking with 158 grain 38sp in my 360PD.
@JimmyDevere
@JimmyDevere 2 жыл бұрын
@@happyamerican3235 Are there particular brands of ammo you are having problems with?
@happyamerican3235
@happyamerican3235 2 жыл бұрын
@@JimmyDevere Barnes Tac-Xpd Defense .357 Magnum 125 grain. The casing cracked and the bullet protruded past the cylinder face. I contacted Barnes with pictures and the ammo lot numbers on the box and they sent me 2 free boxes of ammo but I’ll probably never shoot them in the this revolver. Even though the bullet weight was above the 120 grain weight I still have some cylinder face wear from the pressure melting off some of it so I’m only going to run 38sp in it. I would run half a box of whatever your are going to run in it at least shooting 1 handed as well. The recoil just launches the gun backward so fast “especially one handed firing” smaller weight bullets can’t hold on. Heavier bullets with more contact with the case and a good crimp are what I would highly recommend.
@JimmyDevere
@JimmyDevere 2 жыл бұрын
@@happyamerican3235 Thank you for the comment. I decided to just simplify things and go with the better trigger of the 442 Performance Center that this same reviewer also reviewed. I saw a video of Paul Harrel reviewing some amo for the 38sp and I saw the 158 gr Remington LRN performed well on the meat target with good shootability (recoil). Not sure how I feel about carrying it and there are other loads better for sure. Im going to try some Atomic and some Buffalo Bore but I have a feeling those may be more a little hot.
@happyamerican3235
@happyamerican3235 2 жыл бұрын
@@JimmyDevere 442 is a good one and still a light package. We have a couple and 158 grain runs the best. I’ve never had an issue with ammo in them. I like Hornady ammo because you can get it at most gun shops and online easily. Wilson combat makes a spring kit to soften up the heavy factory trigger pull. The 642 enhanced trigger model I will say is the smoothest factory trigger I have felt on a j frame smith. Very nice. I’ve not tried buffalo bore in anything. These guns are built well but I wouldn’t want the the stress of hot loads on the small alloy frame. Carry a bigger gun in the woods. I’ve found I like the speed strips better than speed loaders as well. Fit in your pocket well. I carry on the ankle with an uncle mikes size zero holster. Has held up well for several years of use and doesn’t break the bank.
@Ale_0103
@Ale_0103 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this educational video.
@bfenwick87
@bfenwick87 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Mr. Gunslinger, for another excellent video! I've been shooting .38 special out of my Taurus 856 for approximately two years now, and I've wondered if I should invest in a .357 revolver, if only to experience the variations in power, etc., at the range. This video certainly has me leaning forward, in that regard! Thanks again!
@johnnyleon9218
@johnnyleon9218 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for your insights. Preciate ya.
@tukalors7577
@tukalors7577 3 жыл бұрын
Great video I like the way you explained the myths and proved them to be just myths. Very professional and skillful.
@jjsifo1
@jjsifo1 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent , this is extremely useful info , thank you !!
@revolverden
@revolverden 10 ай бұрын
I own .44mag, .45ACP, .357 mag, 10mm, .38 spl., 9mm, .380 and 22LR. My EDC (non-winter i.e. no coat, etc..) is my S&W 442 Airweight with Hornady's Critical Defense ammo, along with 2 extra Bianchi speed strips. In the winter I carry either my. 45acp S&W PC1911 5" barrel, .357mag S&S 686-6 3" barrell or my .44mag S&W 629 Deluxe 3" barrel. Nice to have choices! Oh yeah, sometimes in the summer Ill also mix in my Glock 43 9mm or my S&W Body .380 that fits into most small pockets as a secondary backup gun.
@necummins8696
@necummins8696 4 жыл бұрын
Great analysis
@valleyforge-1777
@valleyforge-1777 2 жыл бұрын
Well done. Thank you
@whiplash8277
@whiplash8277 3 жыл бұрын
Nice demonstration. Cut my firearm teeth on a couple Model 19's in the 70's & early 80's. Love, love, love the .357 Magnum so much I have a snubbie, a 4 inch and converted my G23 into a .357Sig, shooting 125 grain Gold Dots. The .357 mag or Sig is the round that will handle most anything in the lower 48.
@mozzberg590
@mozzberg590 4 жыл бұрын
I will still prefer 38 Special +P loads out of my LCR. If I was wanting to carry a 357 load, a S&W Model 13 with a 4 inch barrel is my jam.
@russellkeeling4387
@russellkeeling4387 Жыл бұрын
My interest in a .357 grew over the years and I got a .357 carbine and carried it as a truck gun. The velocity of the rifle bullet from a 20 inch barrel is somewhere around 500 fps faster than the same load from any of my handguns.
@seppijessup9563
@seppijessup9563 3 жыл бұрын
Paul Harrell did a great presentation on this same conundrum.
@xipingpooh5783
@xipingpooh5783 3 жыл бұрын
Good information here👍🏼
@seang1032
@seang1032 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. Another informational video making it easy to understand. I've been on the hunt for another s&w 686 with the 6 inch barrel. Smooth, sexy and still affordable.
@wes326
@wes326 2 жыл бұрын
The only real advantage I see in 357 snubbies over 38s is for hiking or camping in bear territory. Thank for sharing.
@sparky_-mf2cs
@sparky_-mf2cs Жыл бұрын
And about double the foot pounds of energy 😂
@billjohnsonseattle
@billjohnsonseattle Жыл бұрын
A 357 in a snubby would be better than a sharp stick against a bear, but you would probably be under gunned and eaten for lunch.
@Shadow__133
@Shadow__133 8 ай бұрын
@@billjohnsonseattleWhat if it's an arthritic Panda bear?
@jayyoo6535
@jayyoo6535 4 жыл бұрын
Very informative and good shooting
@robertclark9
@robertclark9 2 жыл бұрын
I carry the 340 PD for protection. I love this gun so much I bought my wife one also. I use a light special at the range, and a 158g semi jacket .357 for carry. It’s so light it practically begs you to put it in your pocket. I trust this weapon. And that’s big.
@jasonashley4579
@jasonashley4579 2 жыл бұрын
I carry the 125 grain .38 +p from underwood, they're the hornady xtp bullets, that's what I keep in my 442 smith with crimson trace grips on it, works for me.
@osvaldomarcozzi8777
@osvaldomarcozzi8777 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot. Very clever
@Mrgunsngear
@Mrgunsngear 2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome 👍🏽
@SilverWatcher.
@SilverWatcher. 4 жыл бұрын
My smith&Wesson 38 +p bodyguard snubby moves some metal fast it's not the best but it's my belly gun with a lazer. My edc is a ruger lc9s. Hope I never need them always glad to have them
@billvilla7799
@billvilla7799 4 жыл бұрын
I carry a S&W 640pro. I find it as comfortable to shoot in .357 mag as a small polymer 9mm's with good self defense rounds. Weight is your friend when shooting...it helps with recoil which means you are on target faster with follow up shots.
@Politicallyhomeless957
@Politicallyhomeless957 2 жыл бұрын
This vid made me sub. Love revolvers and the .38Spec vs 357Mag discussion
@cavtroopermunoz
@cavtroopermunoz 4 жыл бұрын
Is it too late to ask for a fair election for Christmas? Asking for Texas.
@aaronsbraga
@aaronsbraga 4 жыл бұрын
Whos the snowflake now?
@Mike80528
@Mike80528 4 жыл бұрын
@@aaronsbraga Right? Maybe there's a reason every claim of fraud has been laughed out of court? Wait until we get the FULL Mueller report released and start to prosecute actual crimes with actual evidence. Their heads are going to EXPLODE.
@zakkwyldesliver
@zakkwyldesliver 4 жыл бұрын
@@Mike80528 Mueller had nothing, there was no Russian collusion and you’re still an incompetent loser doubling down on horseshit spoon fed to you by people who accurately assessed you as being a moron who would mindlessly repeat absurd stories with no shame.
@davidtarantino152
@davidtarantino152 4 жыл бұрын
Let’s give Texas back to the Mexicans and build the wall on the none treasonous side ;)
@TS1207-g9y
@TS1207-g9y 4 жыл бұрын
@@Mike80528 If you actually believe this election was fair and llegit, then you're a moron. But I don't think you're a moron, I just think you're someone who hates Trump bad enough that you don't care how he gets gone, as long as he's gone.
@TNT-gun-reviews
@TNT-gun-reviews Жыл бұрын
Great video like always. Just picked up a pocket rocket myself
@alsims8280
@alsims8280 4 жыл бұрын
"Blastier" I love that. Salute!
@GreatUnknownDingleberry
@GreatUnknownDingleberry 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! 340pd is my favorite and most carried revolver. 2nd is 327pc.
@kennethburns6064
@kennethburns6064 4 жыл бұрын
Nice Video. Love my model 60 with a 3in barrel. I carry with both calibers. thanks for the Video and hey I am a fan of whatever caliber that gets the job done.
@johnnybaughman7593
@johnnybaughman7593 4 жыл бұрын
Great video.. great information
@greggwonder2199
@greggwonder2199 4 жыл бұрын
👍thks for vid. I own both. My Ruger SP 101 snubie 357 is heavy. After 10 rds i switch to 38spec+p. Big dif for me at range but use 357 for self def. My 686 get 357. ✌🌲🇺🇸
@kmac319
@kmac319 4 жыл бұрын
I have an M&P 340 that comes in at 13.8oz so it’s slightly heavier than the 11oz model. I haven’t noticed a major difference between 357 and 38 in terms of recoil when I compared them. This is good information. Is the trade in recoil and muzzle blast worth the added performance; you showed that it is.
@wellregulated8725
@wellregulated8725 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. This is one of those things you hear a lot... so it’s great to see some actual numbers.
@carlosmorris4510
@carlosmorris4510 2 жыл бұрын
Cool... .38 Special +Ps seem to be a good middle ground round to me, for defense. Powerful enough, but still controllable for most people.
@SC93-85
@SC93-85 3 жыл бұрын
Good video. Thanks for doing the comparison. Wonder how much the gap would close if you used 38 special +p ammo…
@shot9702
@shot9702 8 ай бұрын
I'm glad you mentioned that the recoil is punishing. I think it flat out hurts with 357 loads and still gets ones attention with 38 special. I much prefer a small 9mm like a Glock 43 with similar capacity to one of these revolvers. It doesn't hurt to shoot and it's quicker to reload provided you have extra magazines on hand.
@leadhead7338
@leadhead7338 4 жыл бұрын
My first Deer rifle was a .357 Mag, when i was 7 years old, it is a Pump action IMI Timber Wolf, and it is such quality! i Love it, it holds 11 .357 Mag rounds, such a fun gun to shoot!
@alangastler9187
@alangastler9187 4 жыл бұрын
Love the whiteboard of knowledge
@freedomlover425
@freedomlover425 4 жыл бұрын
38s are noticeably quieter out of the 5" than the snubbie.
@joehelvey5794
@joehelvey5794 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video, 👌
@timothyfanney7260
@timothyfanney7260 4 жыл бұрын
Would love to see the same experiment using a g42 vs g43. We all know the answer, but how much of a difference in velocity and energy using almost the same handgun? Great vid. Stay safe and Merry Christmas from down the road in NC.
@triggerbarPhD
@triggerbarPhD Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@TheGrenadier97
@TheGrenadier97 4 жыл бұрын
People complains on snub noses as underpowered or things of this kind? I bet a criminal with two hits in the chest inside 10 yards would wholeheartedly disagree. Nice video.
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