35mm Rules On Street?

[@ollikanerva8764]

Yes, M.Zuiko 17/1.2 Pro is my favorite MFT lens on the streets. So sharp and very nice bokeh.

[@mattisulanto]

Sounds great!

[@karlbrodowsky7744]

My first lens was a 50/1.7, and the second was 28/2.0. It was quite clear that i preferred the 28 over the 35, and I don't regret it. Now I discovered that my thing is mostly the range from 70 to 300, even maybe sometimes above that, if I had lenses. And now I bought a pretty expensive used 35mm/1.4 a few weeks ago, and I love it. It is moderate enough as wideangle to get away with it for most photography of people. I have the 50/1.4 and 85/1.4 when portraits are the goal... The 35mm is really wonderful for low light without tripod or flash, and it has good image quality. I don't like flash, or maybe just lack the skills and experience to use flash well. As a bonus, it can be a "50" for my APSC camera. I am very happy with this and using it a lot.

[@mattisulanto]

Thanks for sharing. True, a 35 doubles up nicely on APS-C as a 50. Then again so does a 28 which becomes like a 40.

[@karlbrodowsky7744]

@mattisulanto My 28 is still manual f-stop and manual focus, so more for the case when I especially want a 28. If the 28 were still as important as it was, I would have to buy a newer one. Then, having a 35, it would be a 24mm. ideally 1.4 or 1.8. And that is a 35 for APSC.

[@lorenschwiderski]

There are no bad focal lengths, only bad photographers.

[@cameraprepper7938]

5:22 I agree with you Matti, a 35mm Lens are not a "boring" Lens, it is a focal length that is "easy" to use for most people, that is why so many fixed lens compact cameras have 35, 38 and 40mm Lenses, it is a very versatile focal lenght, not too wide to make disturbing distortion and not to short if you just go closer, as Robert Capa said "If your pictures aren´t good enough, you are not close enough".

[@mattisulanto]

Thanks. I have to agree with you on this😀

[@johnehman8685]

Thank you! My own journey of favorite focal lengths has been quite surprising to me: I keep moving further away from my old 50mm perspective. First, it was with a 24mm and a 150mm, and now I tend to go out with a 12mm and 300mm.

[@mattisulanto]

Thanks. That sounds very extreme to me but if it works for you😀

[@deanrobertnoble138]

Just ordered the Samyang 35mm 1.8. Really like both 35mm and 40mm focal lengths. The Samyang 1.8 version is a relatively compact lens too. Great walk around and travel lens. Great video; thankyou!

[@mattisulanto]

Thanks! The F1.8 version is really nice and compact.

[@markschneider1396]

I just received a Fujifilm X110VI I have had on back order since March or April. The 23mm crop sensor roughly equals a 35mm. I think I can work with it, I'm used to the Panasonic 14, 15, and 20mm M4/3 lenses, I'm not sure that it makes much difference. Not being that experienced at street photography, I mostly appreciate the small size and quiet nature of the camera, the digital teleconverter gives you a 20MP file, at50MM equivalent so that adds flexibility.

[@mattisulanto]

Thanks for sharing. I'm sure the X100VI is a nice camera.

[@seaeagles6025]

Thanks

[@mattisulanto]

Many thanks!

[@seaeagles6025]

Your welcome my friend, thanks Matti 👍

[@jamesmlodynia8757]

I have several 35mm and 35mm equivalent lens for my different cameras. During the years I photographed events I used a Pentax K1 MKII along with a K3 models from the K3 to the k3 MKIII. one of the reasons I used a full frame and APSC Camera bodies is most of my lens can be used on both bodies, I have a 35mm f1.4 art lens and I used it as a 5o mm equivalent on the k3. I also had a few Pentax limited series primes that I could use on both bodies giving me greater flexibility. I also carried a Pentax 24-70 F2.8, for the most part I used it on the K1, but at times I used it on the k3 with great results. The bodies being DSLR's worked out well because I liked using slightly larger bodies when doing event photography, I felt I had better shooting experience with them. Take care Matti. Happy Holidays.

[@mattisulanto]

Thanks so much for sharing your Pentax backstory. Happy Holidays to you too😀

[@michaelajoseph6856]

Thank you so much for yet another enjoyable video. Awesome images from a beautiful city. For many years I was shooting mainly with 50mm and tele for compression and maximum blur. But recently I felt that I need to have more in frame around my subjects so 35 became a favorite together with shooting vertical. In my case I blame it on my phone. ☺️

[@mattisulanto]

Thanks! Good to hear you find a 35mm working for you. Be careful with that phone camera. It can make you do all kinds of things😀

[@michaelajoseph6856]

@ Thanks, I will! ☺️ That’s why it doesn’t come out on photo walks.

[@petemellows]

I love my 35mm (Sigma art lens). Even though I rarely use it, I could never part with it. Helsinki looks wonderful at night.

[@mattisulanto]

Thanks. Any Sigma Art is nice😀 That was not night, it was at around 3-5pm😅

[@ForsgardPeter]

Good stuff again. I have a 23mm for my Fuji, but have not really used it that much. Maybe I should take it for spin. The image at around 5.03 was nice. I liked the third person with the suitcase between the cars. You do not see it first.

[@mattisulanto]

Thanks, Peter! I also paid attention to that person in the background but you have to sort of take a second look to see that.

[@wilfs1196]

As one FB photographer stated, use the 23 mm for the scene, use the 35 f2 or f1 for the details. I had my Fuji 23 1.4,LM,WR, R lens for sale until I took it out for one last day. photos were great, sale cancelled. One lens that was very hard to get was the Fuji 27 mm f2.8 R WR , but I found one & it's been on my Fuji X-S20 almost from the time I bought it. A great lens ( for me) very compact & discreet for street between my 23 & 35.

[@mattisulanto]

Thanks for sharing!

[@carljarvinen1189]

Not so much a comment on the 35mm, I have one, but it gathers a lot of dust sitting on the self. More to say thank you, having visited Helsinki several times in the past, it’s good to see places that I recognize…for urban images I use my Fuji 100 VI which is a 35mm equivalent as you know.

[@mattisulanto]

Thanks for sharing. I try to show more Helsinki in my videos. More than before, that is.

[@seaeagles6025]

Hi Matti, I have a 35mm F/1.8 Nikon APSC, and a 40mm F/2.8. I find my 40mm lens has colours that pop more than my 35mm. Nice photo of the Oranges and that photo of the people hugging. Thanks Matti it was nice to see those Trams and it was a great Walkabout. 😊

[@mattisulanto]

Thanks for sharing. I used to have the 35mm F1.8 APS-C lens for my Nikon DSLR and I liked it a lot.

[@marknathan7744]

I am temted cool optic i wonder if we wil see updates on the 75mm f1.8 and the rest of there range are all due for a refresh with weather sealing nicer black finish etc etc.

[@tedphillips2951]

I have found the 25mm & 12mm, in micro 4/3, work the best for me

[@mattisulanto]

Thanks. Two excellent focal lengths for MFT.

[@lorenschwiderski]

@@mattisulanto The Lumix Leica 15mm is wonderful too. Looks great - shoots great! The Lumix 14mm is kinda cool, being a pancake, sharp enough at center, while being perhaps a little off perfection in a nice way. Olympus f1.8, IMO, beats Lumix 25 f1.7 with its more consistent focus lock-on.

[@bigrobotnewstoday1436]

Matti if you buy this lens get the dock also. I've read on BH site the reviews of the first version having issues like the auto focus was fine but got worse over time. There one review of this lens on BH and it got three stars. Samyang seems to be a hit or miss sometimes don't know if the camera body plays a part. I remember Sigma lens back in the DSLR days being a hit or miss with auto focus all the time. I know someone that has a Sigma 85mm f1.4 and never had any issues with their Canon DSLR. Also my Olympus 75mm f1.8 is said to be made by Sigma and I've never had any issues with that lens.

[@mattisulanto]

Thanks for the tips. I've had no issues with the Samyangs that I have tried out but I don't have any long term experience with them.

[@cameraprepper7938]

Hi Matti, now there have been made at least 44 different 35mm Lenses for Sony full frame Cameras. I have the excellent Voigtländer APO-Lanthar 35mm Aspherical which is compact and built like a tank, it have outstanding good optical image quality ! In 2023 I got the Sony Carl Zeiss Sonnar 35mm 2.8 T* ZA used for US $215 (taxes included), I wanted this Lens for when I will go as light as possible. I can highly recommend both of these 35mm Lenses. From 1995 to 2006 I used my Leica Minilux which have an excellent 40mm Lens, I think the Leica Summarit 40mm 2.4 on the Minilux is the best Lens ever made for a compact analogue fixed lens camera.

[@mattisulanto]

Thanks so much for sharing again. Always appreciate your input on the channel.

[@deckoizkraja3107]

Hi Matti. If you take photos at night, who gonna give better result's, M43 vs APS-C sensor and is it a big defferent in picture quality ??? Thank you.

[@mattisulanto]

It depends how you define better and big.

[@lorenschwiderski]

Matti, this name keeps popping up: Yongnuo 35mm f/2S DF DSM Lens (Sony E) Inexpensive, and hopefully not cheep. I use a Nikkor 40mm f2 on my Nikon most of the time, and the 50mm f1.8 if feeling strong on that day ;) The whole issue of the plastic mount I find ridiculous for most photographers. So what if the 40mm is a plastic everything. I am not using it as a hammer. - take care, Loren

[@mattisulanto]

Thanks! The 40mm Nikkor is really nice. The plastic mount is fine but cheap😀 I does not make your photos any worse though.

[@AntonioHSam]

Hi Matti, just in case you were not aware, your last two videos' titles are translated into my country's language (lets say YT Portuguese) . Although the video title is not wrong, it also does not make exactly sense. All the best!

[@mattisulanto]

There is a new feature called auto-dub on KZbin. I have disabled it, so you should not hear any Portuguese. I have to double check my settings.

[@Rnder72]

I like the 35mm equiv. focal length (17mm f1.8), though for decades my goto FL was 40mm (shooting film with the Rollei 35) I do have a 40mm equiv. FL (Lumix 20mm f1.7) though the focus noise and speed makes me use it less. If it would operate like the 17mm it would be my goto for out on the street. Nice POV vid as always.

[@mattisulanto]

Thank you! I really like the 20mm F1.7 and the AF is no hindrance.

[@lorenschwiderski]

The Leica/Lumix 15mm might work for you?

[@marcp.1752]

Fine lens, Matti. But if i would spent 600 bucks for a decent 35/1.4, i'd put 250 EUR personally more onto the table, and get the Sigma 35/1.4 ART lens. Because - it offers (almost) 35/1.4 GM image quality, for half of the price. The Samyang looks a bit too plasticky for my eyes, in terms of build quality. But i am settled, i do have some 35mm lenses, also one 35/1.4, even it's for SLRs, but works perfectly fine adapted to my Sony.

[@mattisulanto]

Thanks for sharing your insights on this. The Sigma is also a lot bigger and heavier than the Samyang which in my opinion offers really good image quality too. It may look plasticky but the build quality feels really good. Anyway, we all have to choose the gear we feel is the best for us😀

[@zenonbillings9008]

I really like the quality of the light that you mentioned . and I too have taken a recent interest in the 35 mm lens which I always considered a boring lens. zen billings in canada.

[@cameraprepper7938]

The Sigma 35mm 1.4 DG DN Art (US$749 at B&H) for mirrorless cameras performs better optically than the Sigma 35mm 1.4 DG HSM Art which was designed for DSLR cameras but also made with a Sony E-mount. But if I needed a 35mm 1.4, I would spend US$1298 for the Sony 35mm 1.4 GM, it performs much better.

[@marcp.1752]

@cameraprepper7938 And we all know that, but the Sony is uber expensive. Anyway, i'd choose my Distagon 35/1.4 anytime over any 35/1.4 GM - because it's all about the rendering, 3D Pop, character, not clinical sharpness for my personal taste...shooting since march 1984. Horses for courses.

[@cameraprepper7938]

@@mattisulanto Weight and size are important.

[@MrJapanforce]

Your video is great and atmospheric, especially on a moody, cold, winter AWESOME weather of Finland (which i so much love). BUT, for mE, the 35mm should never exist. It is really a childish , boring focal length. Like a snapshot experience. I am a 50mm guy for everything in my life (YOU, taught me on one of your past videos). One camera, one lens. And this lens is the bokhelicious, cinematic, atmospheric, geometrical, glorious fast 50mm! Thank you for your time

[@mattisulanto]

Thanks for sharing. Are you sure it was I who said the 50mm is the greatest?😀 Nothing wrong with the 50mm, of course. It's a super nice focal length too.

[@ProbablyAnAmateur]

kinda want a 22mm prime now for my R7 if 22mm is 35mm equiv on APS-C... no reason other than a sudden impulse buy, but its tempting. the lens looks big though!

[@mattisulanto]

Thanks. I'm not sure there is a 22mm prime for Canon APS-C.

[@ProbablyAnAmateur]

@@mattisulanto i had a look around and there isnt one :( closest would be tamron's 10-22mm RF-S, and zoomed all the way in for the same focal length

[@mattisulanto]

@@ProbablyAnAmateur There is the Sigma 23mm F1.4 which is pretty close to 22mm and not super expensive.

[@ProbablyAnAmateur]

@@mattisulanto close as it can get by the looks of it. £479 though!

[@fotosvond_]

I hate Samyang for releasing this so silently. :D I bought their 50/1.4 II only 4 weeks ago because I wanted a fast aperture prime that isn't too expensive, so I got a used copy of the 50/1.4 II with this lens station that always bothered me, and now they come up with a cheaper 35/1.4 option with weather sealing and no lens station necessary. I could really bite me somewhere because 35 is my #1 focal length. -.- However, when I was on a small trip by foot some days ago, I was mostly pleasantly surprised how nice it was to shoot 50mm only. With a 35 you get a bit more room to feel safe if there is not enough space; you can go closer or use APS-C mode on a 35, but you can't uncrop a 50. As the 50 is even smaller I might stick to it for now.

[@mattisulanto]

I guess it was so silent because Samyang don't send out free lenses to KZbinrs and therefore we haven't seen many videos about this lens.

[@jarmokarkkainen7621]

My recommendation here has to be the excellent Sony 35mm F1.4 GM lens. Pricey for sure, unfortunately...but a very good all rounder. For Fuji's aps-c it would be Viltrox 27mm F1.2. Slightly large yes, but very good value for money.

[@mattisulanto]

Thanks for sharing your recommendation.

[@gainde1137]

As go to lens I would take a 24mm lens. 2nd would be a 35mm lens.

[@mattisulanto]

Thanks!

[@cameraprepper7938]

The older Samyang 35mm 1.4 AF and Samyang 35mm 1.4 II performs nearly as good as the new Samyang 35mm 1.4 P, so you can save money with the old models.

[@mattisulanto]

Have you made a comparison?😀 You can save in so many ways if your budget is tight. One option is not to buy anything and save 100%😀

[@philmtx3fr]

Well putting around 600€ in a Chinese lens is for me a certain risk… about longevity. We can see now that optically they are good ( viltrox, tt artisan, Sam yang) but not sure that they are reliable on AF versions as they are very young in this area and there are more risk than in manual build. Also for 500€ and even less you have access on second hand market to sigma art or Nikon Afs ( not for Sony this one) which are built like tanks and no reputation to contest. I do prefer to limit Chinese lens to 200-300 € max on my side with the sacrifice of 1/3 of stops.

[@mattisulanto]

Samyang is from South Korea and the lens is also made in there.

[@miso56]

samyang has probably higher quality variance, but between us 😊, some sony fe/ zeiss lenses - not the cheapest ones - have the same issue, just fanboysm is pushing people to be silent. sony fe 50 1.8 is rubbish, but consistent. zeiss for fe is mostly old generation - old design/ not so precise manufacturing process-> higher variance.

[@mattisulanto]

@@miso56 Those early Sony-Zeiss lenses were pretty horrible actually. The QC was probably at sleep half of the time😀 If you got a good copy they were really nice lenses though.

[@philmtx3fr]

@@mattisulanto ah good point :). I thought they were Chinese ;)

[@mattisulanto]

@@philmtx3fr Not everything comes from China😀

[@bigrobotnewstoday1436]

I own the Olympus 17mm f2.8 and that comes out to be 34mm on full frame I think it counts its really close? LOL

[@mattisulanto]

It very much counts😀 Thanks for sharing.

[@Hasibullah-s9t]

بهترین❤

[@miso56]

a wise man on budget will accept slow autofocus and will pick tamron 35 2.8 for a fraction of price ... 1.8 is an unnecesary evil 😂

[@mattisulanto]

Thanks for sharing. Of course there are many options. You can even get an old manual focus lens for €15 and an adapter for another €15 if your budget is really tight😀

[@miso56]

​@@mattisulantogood topic for next video 😃

[@holgerokorn3164]

​@@mattisulanto the Tamron 20,24,35 2.8 are great. Nobody need 3. 28 is more versatile and the 40 2.5 from Sony