360 DEGREE RULE for BENDING CONDUIT - No More Than 360 Degrees of Bends

[@DejitaruJin]

Thank you for this clarification! For some reason I was thinking it meant 360 degrees period from breaker box to outlet, and was trying to figure out how that could possibly be right in more complex arrangements.

[@rechellewilson911]

Nothing wrong with a sponsor man,do you,thank you for the great info

[@dmbkersh]

Never feel like you have to apologize for taking a sponsorship! If people are pissed off, maybe tell them to go to work for less pay and see how they feel about it.

[@user-dr2pg8fk2i]

It is free education....so yeah, complaints are just....weird.

[@KevinCoop1]

Dustin, Although 100% correct, NEC panel needs to make an exception to the rule. If newer insulation like Southwire sim pull is utilized, then more degrees allowed. Second exception. More degrees allowed with engineering pull calculation performed and on site for inspector's review if requested. I did conduit layouts in 3D for 15,000 sq ft electrical room with 5.5 miles of 3-1/2" EMT with (4) 900Kcmil compact Al and ground. The electricians pulled right through the "required" pull boxes and through at least 630 degrees bend. Did pull calls. No where near allowed stress or sidewall pressures for damage. Respectfully, Kevin

[@artisanelectrics]

Love a bit of metal conduit! In the UK we don’t do so much of it apart from when customers want a kind of “industrial” look but it’s great fun and takes quite some skill to work with. We have the same rule in the UK. Thanks for your great content as always!

[@spudatbattleaxe]

Nice man, pretty much all commercial and industrial jobs here are ran in conduit. It pretty fun sometimes figuring out a tricky bend and then watching it come together perfectly. Currently we’re working on a job where we’re running over 15,000 ft of conduit. It’s a good time!

[@inspector8572]

I hear you constantly referring to the NEC or “CODE” and that’s good but it’s the minimum safety requirement but often falls short of the AHJ (Authority Having Jurisdiction)… These are water / wastewater plants, electric Power plants, as well as a few other government installations. Specifically the 360° rule would equal a rejection at the AHJ / WTP) I was employed as an inspector at set their maximum allowable to 270°. Furthermore all runs had to be parallel or perpendicular to the building lines and grades… so ONLY if the building had a O/S in it then the conduit not only could but had to also conform to those lines. This was almost all heavy industrial so generally no EMT except in office building. Car flex, Liquid Tight , etcetera was limited to a max 6ft at equipment entrances only. Some conduit runs were special runs that required corrosion resistance as well as shielding so standard galvanized steel or PVC conduit was out. My point is a rookie mistake would be a journeyman whom worked in other settings where code is the minimum standard would possibly loose their company big $$$$$ by approaching all jobs with the mindset of only doing what the “CODE” minimally required and failed to incorporate the standards required by the AHJ.

[@oldramrod6317]

I have watched several of your videos, and you give excellent instruction in all of them. Thanks very much.

[@bloo92]

Thank you for that last bit, I just took a basic electrical residential wiring course, and I kept wondering whether the 360 degree limit applied to ONLY bends in the same direction, if somehow bends in the opposite direction canceled them out. Math was always my thing in school 👍 thanks again!

[@ramosel]

So then as long as your "pull point" (box, conduit body, etc.) is only a pass through.... can it be buried in wall or ceiling?

[@Realistmf24]

Love your videos man inspired me to do beautiful work

[@Aepek]

Will you be doing any vids on Romex, NM, in EMt conduit at all.....don’t wanna open a can of worms either.

[@goaliedude32]

don't do it .

[@nickg1307]

Romex is NM.... And as far as Romex in EMT, it doesn't matter. You're not pulling Romex through a EMT raceway, so therefore it is used as protection and pipe fill does not factor. Pipe fill only counts for raceways, meaning you ran any type of conduit from the panel all the way to the device, that is a raceway and no one is ever going to pull Romex through a raceway. But if, lets say you work residential and you run Romex down am unfinished basement wall, you can literally cram as much Romex as you can fit, because it is only used for protection of the Romex down the wall. Code does not specify how much wire can be fit into a pipe used as protection, same thing if you use a "chase" or "nipple" under 24" in length. There are no pipe fill requirements.

[@Aepek]

@@nickg1307 thx for the reply. Always enjoy watching vids etc....as I like picking up tips/tricks from others. I believe that even if master electrician, you can always learn something from another person etc.... Also, yeah, I do mostly Res work nowadays. Have a good one ✌🏼

[@wreckless1870]

Do you have a video on how to bend offset correctly

[@renep.l.1580]

I'm running 5 bare copper wires number 8 through 3/4 EMT.. My question is.. Is it okay to run 5 wires number 8 in a 3/4 conduit?

[@antoinegrenier1085]

Great video I love watching you I'm a apprentice and it help me a lot🙂

[@markbernier8434]

What is the calculation when pipe is following a curve, say a big tank?

[@Ressy66]

@2:24 or you use brickies line thats light as but pretty strong ... you "blow it" through with a plastic bag etc and blower, its so so so easy, you then tie it off and pull cable through, its like a hot knife going through butter....

[@e.alejandro5067]

Great video, i´m agree with your information.

[@mendyyabra7294]

Thanks Dustin for all you videos. It will be great if you make a video for pricing. Roughing and Existing work. residential/commercial

[@charlesbiller3513]

I never knew about the 360 rule. Explains why I've had issues at times. What dummy I can be.

[@juansaldana84]

Thanks amigo!! For your videos Iam now in my second year apprentice and still learning more!! Thanks man I remember how u first started and still giving back of your knowledge thanks man

[@sabonimahmenna5920]

Thanks for the awesome Chanel

[@toobad9946]

Everyone has bills to pay. Take the money! I remember this information differently. I would have sworn the code was 270 degrees ( when I was a contractor years ago). I've also found that you can barely get just a pull string to move through 360. Has that portion of the coffee been revised during the past 20 years?

[@michaelvargas589]

unlessssss you have a new milwaukee fishtape haha

[@jolyonwelsh9834]

That's almost common sense. The more bends you have between any 2 pull points, the more friction you have on the conductors. If you cannot avoid having more bends, you can use a larger size conduit. But that's rarely the case.

[@jimlangley840]

I learned to have only 3 90° bends then a box or lb...so much easier to pull. We need more soap ! ! !

[@itsthatguy8102]

I used to work for Bryan electric ... same town in Georgia as Rogers .. Alpharetta

[@leroystrokesmen5666]

hey I heard of them were you traveling ?

[@logancooper7913]

I never go near 360 degrees between pull points. Totally saves time to just throw up a junction box, conduit is all about pulling the wire. 🤙

[@victorgonzalez-tr4su]

nice , thank u.

[@Bradley-tx6ed]

had a job the other day where i had to set a box on a 20 ft ceiling because other wise i would have had like 5 90's and 2 offsets

[@Ryan-hr9hw]

Pulling Cs are your friend

[@ronbonick4265]

excellent

[@Talinthis]

i am an oilfield guy that has only dealt with teck cables, explosion proof fittings, seals, and boxes and all that jazz. i got a job for hospital construction in 2014 and that was the first time i have ever ran EMT pipe, was good times. got to do door security which was 1/2 inch, and tons of 3/4 and 1 inch, some 1 1/4, 1 1/2, 2, and also the 4 inch EMT from the main MCC to all the other electrical rooms with 4 inch. I didn't enjoy that big pipe too much, found the bender didn't bend the same amount every time but i guess it wasn't the worst thing i have ever done. Finished the job two years later and haven't bent any pipe since. we always had the oilfield buldings prefabricated so i never got to do any rigid. that stuff is a bit harder since you need to thread the pieces together. i installed a lot of straight pieces to finish the prefab on the outside but that doesn't even count.

[@danielmoreno9695]

That’s an easy fix, just add a box If you fuck up. Use a bandsaw to cut two sides of the pop after your measurements, two connectors, and good placement for the pull can.

[@dylann2038]

UNION 4 LIFE

[@RadDadisRad]

Just for clarification. You can bend conduit beyond a 90.

[@SuperVstech]

You can... but it isn’t wise.

[@eddiew2325]

@@SuperVstech it might not be wise but at least its clever

[@ericthered9655]

Put 4 90s in a conduit and then try to push a fishtape through it. Any questions?

[@davidarmentano]

Could you do a video on saddle bends?

[@zephyrdelight3411]

Lmao I had the exact same story! Haha lesson learned

[@jpvoodoo5522]

Follow the code: Always be responsible for your own work. Never bend for a friend.

[@randymathews3348]

@ 6:20 "no! Dipshit"

[@kennethmaxwell5365]

so, junction boxes are my friend? lol

[@noahnewsome2050]

Hey man im running a sub panel on this commercial job and ive got to get into the main disconnect/switch board. Does this rule apply all the way up to 2 1/2" pipe and 4 4/0 conductors? I will install a pull station if i have to but i really wanted to do it in one run

[@spudatbattleaxe]

Noah Newsome yep, applies even more so with larger sized wire. You don’t want to be pulling that without a pull box

[@glenjamindle]

The larger you go is where it matters most. Today I pulled Medium Voltage through 6" rigid with two 90's and expansion joints and even that wasn't easy.

[@noahnewsome2050]

@@glenjamindle thank you. Any suggestions to make this run easier

[@noahnewsome2050]

@@glenjamindle also did you have a tugger or hand pull?

[@glenjamindle]

@@noahnewsome2050 We used a D80 tow behind compressor to blow a mouse with a string, then pulled a small rope through, then pulled a large rope through. We hooked a pulley to an excavator boom and pulled back the rope with a skid steer. We hand fed the MV into the 6". 4 4/0 isn't a difficult pull with enough guys, but you can always split up the pulls by installing a j-box somewhere in the midpoint. I hate using lube so I always upsize my pipe, but you could try throwing some of that down in to help.

[@Kev7ing]

4:35 those aren't damaged conductors. Paul Abernathy said that the nylon jacket on the insulation is a sacrificial aid for pulling in the conductors.

[@shimes424]

Not exactly. It's also a UV shield. Only needed inside switch boxes and anything else that creates arcs, but it does protect the insulation. Decades need to pass before damage is done, and usually the switch would burn out long before the wire is compromised, but still, it is providing UV protection

[@justinlongoria9306]

You literally made me spit my drink out, @ 2:05 "well f*%k you I'll pull it". Best lessons are learned not taught. Keep up the NO-BULL shit videos loving them. I'm not even an electrician and I appreciate the references to NEC code with the real life experience and the shop talk.

[@user-dr2pg8fk2i]

So...you kept saying its possible....but isn't it against code?

[@illestofdemall13]

Yes it's against code. Needs to be 360 degrees or less between pull points.

[@MrWeansard]

It is like you are washing your car. You pull the hose around the first tire, no problem. 2nd tire, a little tougher. 3rd tire, getting rough. 4th tire, no way.

[@SuperVstech]

sean ward heh... I have never gotten the hose past the first tire...

[@benjaminkline4855]

Just squeeze a half quart of lube into the conduit before feeding, it'll be alright

[@eddiew2325]

no its not alright Benjamin. it'll never be alright

[@wallpello_1534]

Lots of government work only let you have 270