[362] Vintage High Security: Dudley Split Wafer Padlock Picked and Gutted

[@simonrichard9873]

That lock is still safe today!

[@lockpickinglawyer]

It's definitely better than most of the locks on the market these days.

[@arekhabentangan9778]

Why they don't make more of this type of lock today?

[@solhsa]

Increased complexity leads to increased cost.

[@EvelynDayless]

@@arekhabentangan9778 because companies want to sell what will make them the most profit. Why mass produce a good lock people can still largely afford when you can mass produce a cheap lock, charge just as much, and the vast majority of people will still buy it based on the packaging telling them it's Pickproof McUltratough?

[@ineednochannelyoutube5384]

Its about as tough as a kar key just from looking at it.

[@DAGATHire]

sooooo..... master lock.... this thing was made 90 years ago!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@gorillaau]

It probably cost a small fortune when it was new. Master Lock knows that a lock only needs to be good enough, then sell plenty of those to those who will swallow the snake oil.

[@noname-wo9yy]

@@gorillaau Well if all the locks on the market are shit why bother doing anything better

[@gorillaau]

@@noname-wo9yy I never said all locks are rubbish... but some just ain't evolving to come up with something better... because that takes time and money.

[@mechakitsune]

In a cave, with a box of scraps!

[@Mygfisawesone]

They already got the memo, sadly. Master lock bought Dudley a while back

[@hadesobsidian5231]

How is this a better lock _today_ than like 90% of all the other modern locks.. wtf Seriously though, one of coolest locks I've ever seen.

[@Kenji314159]

Wow. Producing such a complex and beautiful padlock would be infeasible in today's market. Look at how many individual parts this has!

[@lockpickinglawyer]

Well, I guess the depression-era job market made it feasible!

[@Kenji314159]

Well, maybe with Trump, there will be such locks once again ; )

[@Polite_Cat]

Or maybe not.

[@TheLizardOfOz]

@@pinetree1616 Wow - bigotry much?

[@colemanadamson5943]

@Samuel Prince And Trump reducing regulations on business bringing manufacturing back to the U.S. was nothing huh? See a doctor about that TDS.

[@Spollekop]

You know its going to be a great lock when lock picking layer makes a 10 minute KZbin clip about it.

[@technosasquatchfilms]

Always blown away with what they could do in the past. That is a seriously neat lock.

[@lockpickinglawyer]

Definitely! I've been looking for one of these at the right price for a while.

[@kevinharrigan2727]

That Dudley was certainly ahead of its time with those anti drill rods before cordless drills, that was very surprising! What a beautiful piece.

[@mrkultra1655]

LOL... The first actual usable power drill came out in the US in 1914 by Black & Decker. Most folks due to cost were still using hand crank drills into the 60’s and 70’s. Drills were cordless before they were cordless.

[@lindaphillips8303]

They definitely do not make them like they used to a work of art in and out

[@lockpickinglawyer]

It sure it. I love interesting old locks.

[@filanfyretracker]

the scary thing is, I just Googled them and if its the same Dudley. They are owned by Masterlock now...

[@Mygfisawesone]

Oh no... Edit: I just did some research of my own, and I have bad news.

[@dirtydan9785]

oh no

[@JM64]

F

[@danielkorladis7869]

sad

[@notfeedynotlazy]

F

[@LockNoob]

Really nice and rare to see a wafer lock padlock with a removable core. Great lock :-)

[@lockpickinglawyer]

+Lock Noob Thanks.

[@debug9424]

+Lock Noob I have one made by Corbin (Cabinet Locks div.), they don't seem very rare. CCL Security (the old Corbin Cabinet Locks) is still making tham with the exact same mechanism, but a different lock body. I think that it's are called the Sesamee 66.

[@ashcraig]

This is by far one of the most interesting locks you've ever featured. What a gorgeous design!

[@yozarian86]

This is the best padlock I’ve ever seen. It’s too hard to mass produce millions of them, but locks like this should still be produced today.

[@JessHull]

Wow ! I've always wanted to see one of these on video instead of line drawing and mech explosions. I really enjoy seen lock obscura like this. Thanks LPL!

[@lockpickinglawyer]

+Jess Hull Thanks. I've wanted to get my hands on one of these for a while.

[@monkey_breath]

this has to be the coolest wafer lock i've ever seen!!!!

[@lockpickinglawyer]

Definitely very cool. Are you familiar with the DUO or the Alpha 800? Both really nice wafer locks. I have a couple videos on the DUO, a triple bitting wafer lock with about double the number of wafers as this one.

[@vincestar4840]

I like the part where he took the big screw out, because it was the only part I understood.

[@attmay82]

I feel like locks like this are the reasons for the whole channel. This lock is so old and so cool and so much better than most of the locks of the last 100 years

[@jonminer9891]

I really like this lock. I don't think an amateur could pick it. By today's standards, it is overly complicated. But the designer has done a better job than most of today's lock designers even attempt. Thanks for sharing.

[@VincentMontibus]

The gutting is almost as difficult as the picking ! Nice little lock ! Great video and explainations as usual.

[@lockpickinglawyer]

Thanks. This is definitely a tricky lock to open. More so if I removed the individual wafers!

[@bluzeman1975]

Pretty damn amazing for a company that wasn't even specialized in making locks. I'm 100% going to do some research on the inventor of that lock. The machining alone is absolutely beautiful

[@waynerichards3490]

Wow for a 90 year old lock that was impressively formidable some modern companies could learn a few things from that lock the build quality alone makes it worth the money

[@Uncle_Buzz]

Even by today's standards, that's a high security lock. Very nice piece of history. They don't make them like that any more. Cheers! Chris.

[@lockpickinglawyer]

Thanks.

[@andrewgebler8237]

When I first saw it I thought it was a warded lock... very impressed to see anti drilling pins on a lock that old with unusual wafers...I found an old waterbury metal detecting that had wafers... very nice piece you have....

[@lockpickinglawyer]

Thanks.

[@kairu_aname]

At the time, you didn't have to worry about drilling. It looks like copper construction, so I'm going to assume it is, and therefore was weak to one thing. Sawing. So I believe those are not anti-drill pieces, but anti-saw pieces.

[@TheDarkever]

The majority of good we buy today are waaay better than the ones produced 100 years ago. But some are not. This lock definitely looks like one of those exceptions!

[@ShaneTheGeek]

That Dudley lock is a really cool lock! A nice peice of history and craftsmanship.

[@ftswarbill]

A. Amazing tech for the 30's. I wonder why we don't see split wafers anymore? B. How amazing is he to not only know how to pick everything but assembly and dis-assembly. I'm in awe.

[@orangenasa]

when the 1930s have better locks than 2019

[@bozsbuzz6409]

I love seeing the different designs, especially the older ones. You can see how much more complicated,and less cost effective some of them proved to be in the long run, although mechanically extremely interesting.

[@lockpickinglawyer]

Me too... the more unique, the better!

[@warmike]

@@lockpickinglawyer security by obscurity

[@mrkultra1655]

Amazing lock, what a mind to design and manufacture something like that back in those days.

[@brianhignett8954]

Hi Harry, What a great little padlock! Expensive to produce even back in those days I would think. Clever angled topped wafers, and key security as well. I assume only Dudley could cut those keys back then. Well picked and explained. Regards, Brian.

[@lockpickinglawyer]

+Brian Hignett Thanks. I'd love to see the 1930s key machine for these.

[@JasperJanssen]

It says right on the key “Dudley Key Control”. So yeah, this is definitely a key control type of key :)

[@moije38]

This is such a lovely lock and video, and it makes it really clear how wafer locks work.

[@flamingdog9207]

It kinda says something when something this old outclasses most padlocks produced/on the market today. And it's just really cool/unique

[@SanraiDalris]

Imagine what a lock like this would be like using modern machining. What an absolute monster.

[@SonnyinPhx]

Wow...that thing had more "guts" to it than the high security locks that we used on our munitions storage bunkers when I was in the military...Definitely a work of art.

[@markleng67]

Now *THAT* is one really clever lock! Good vid, thank you.

[@lockpickinglawyer]

Thanks, and agreed!

[@363.2McMasters]

This is crazy impressive, I've just gotten my first kit and have had it for about 4 days. Just now getting down single pin picking basic standard pins on really basic locks, I have so much more respect. You make this look easy, thank you for the inspiration... I can see myself getting better everyday and hope to be half the picker you are one day.

[@autobotjazz1972]

This lock is far better built that the majority of modern locks.

[@bertblankenstein3738]

Thank you for showing this lock. A real treat.

[@tunafish3216]

That was a good lock for its time, way cool.

[@lockpickinglawyer]

Thanks, and agreed.

[@adamwest8711]

I had no idea how many different lock brands and companies there were until I took up lock sport. It’s amazing how much a decent picker has to know to not have to start from scratch with every single lock... I’m not a decent picker 😞

[@chillired5389]

You’re an absolute legend when it comes to locks! I can’t believe just how much you know about them!!!

[@charlesdahmital8095]

First time watching you 'un-pick' a lock.

[@ayahoo16]

Am I the only one that doesn't have a clue what he's talking about. I just watched the videos and I'm in awe of whatever he's doing and talking about. I do know one thing for sure there is nothing that is pick proof. It can have the wackiest keys you've ever seen and it seems like it doesn't stand a chance.

[@sohamsengupta6470]

That's the first time I've seen a wafer lock not be a massive disappointment on this channel. In fact, it actually seems to ne way better that half of the locks on the present market

[@StefanDembowski]

WOW, that's a great old lock and in fantastic condition!

[@lockpickinglawyer]

+Stefan Dembowski Thanks.

[@bryansullo9798]

I love BBL. (That's Big, Brass Locks, of course.) This would be a great one to have in a collection.

[@lifematch]

This video is 10 min…. So a worthy challenger finally comes.

[@drewestes2010]

Very nice lock LPL! I love the design of it. Thanks for the info on picking it. I have never tried to pick something like that. Nice old lock for the collection.

[@lockpickinglawyer]

+Drew Estes thanks. If you want to pick something like this, just look at the Honda box from the early 2000's. Very similar.

[@drewestes2010]

LockPickingLawyer I will definitely look for one. Thanks for the info!

[@christophersnyder3241]

it proves there were smart people all through time. very nice lock.

[@aintaintaword666]

And imagine designing and manufacturing it with no internet, no computers, no nothing

[@AlbertLebel]

Thanks for showing this one. What a great lock. Things are just not made the way these days.

[@lmars5933]

Lock from 30's can't believe they were that advance. THAT IS THE COOLEST LOCK I HAVE SEEN YOUR ARE THE GRAND MASTER PICKER IN MY EYES LOL LOL .CAN'T HARDLY BELIEVE A BLUE PRINT WAS STILL AVAILABLE AMAZING. THANKS FOR SHOWING ME THIS GREAT VIDEO. 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟😎

[@lockpickinglawyer]

+Larry Marrs Thanks, I love working with cool old locks like this!

[@josephking6515]

WOW! From the time the tension rod went in until shackle release was about 2 minutes and 42 seconds. That is a *long* pick for you so that lock must be brilliant. Shame there aren't locks this hard to pick today. If there were, they would be best sellers I would think.

[@stalinyourleader3846]

this man is the definition of having lockpicking at 100

[@ABVW92]

@Мукура Блуд general Bethesda reference tbh, Fallout and Elder Scrolls titls both have lockpicking skills

[@rjperkins365]

Wow very nice. I was thinking what a nice lock and then you said lets gut it. I was blown away you could.

[@lockpickinglawyer]

Thanks... and I love the fact that I could look at the innards. There's only so much you can get from the patent drawings.

[@rjperkins365]

I figured I would do a video here and there on locks I haven't seen picked on video, doesn't mean there not out there. I had to do a video on the community lock and I ended up doing a second on a Zi ikon padlock, nothing special just a nice looking lock.

[@Viktoria_Thaelin]

Seems like a pretty impressive lock, especially with how old it is

[@Steel-Pinnings]

Now that is something most modern lock makers should take back up. Crazy that you can gut it. But so glad you could.

[@lockpickinglawyer]

I'm definitely glad that we could peek inside. It's too neat a mechanism not to explore.

[@eclipsedave]

I immediately noticed the angled wafer ends. Interesting serrated key bow, too.

[@lockpickinglawyer]

+eclipsedave not sure why they serrated the bow. You sometimes see this on older keys to distinguish it from other models. But I don't know enough about old Dudley locks to say whether that's the case.

[@sergioropo3019]

For a moment I thought, "This is the one!", but no... he opened it.

[@sheriff9396]

Very interesting video thanks for sharing it, the lock itself looks more secure than many of todays locks, I would rather have something like that on my toolbox over an Abus rock or similar, well picked again, you always make it look easy.

[@lockpickinglawyer]

+Sheriff Locksteel Thanks... I'd love to use a lock like this, if only for the cool factor.

[@stritheor]

Now I want a dudley padlock just to take apart and put back together. That looks like a lot of fun!!!

[@coreystokes8835]

A superb example of precision picking and lock.

[@monkeyx17]

The fact it took this long for him to pick it is a good lock

[@mynock250]

I thought Duo locks were tricky, that lock would keep me up at night. Beautiful lock, and pick and gut.

[@tavi9598]

That's a very impressively designed lock, especially considering it's age.

[@danielkorladis7869]

Way better than a modern master lock

[@Polite_Cat]

wow, an actually competent wafer lock! practically unheard of. i can see why this probably wouldnt be made today..lots of cost to manufacture with all those parts including the key needing special cuts. still, im sure the part count could be slimmed down and make it viable.

[@geotech7930]

Great video, interesting lock. Thanks!

[@trekmaster30]

Excelent job with that lock! For it's time I imagine it was probably quite expensive.

[@lockpickinglawyer]

Thanks... I couldn't find anything about its price back in the day, and I did look!

[@TylerSnyder305]

Pretty awesome how a lock from 30's is better than so many locks today. In some ways this is kind of sad, but it really does show that they don't make so many things like they used to. I guess lock technology hasn't progressed to the point that a good high security lock can be easily and inexpensively made.

[@penfold7800]

Wow, very interesting lock. Are you sure it's 1930's? I had no idea they had the technology for something so intricate. The holes on the Bible that the wafers lock in to would have been punched out as a flat plate on a manual bench press with a bespoke tool, and then the plate would have been shaped in to a tube between rollers. Incredible amount of work must have been involved to make this lock. it's amazing to think it was made in mass production just 10 years after world war 1. What's happened to all that skill and expertise? It saddens me. Thankyou for a great piece of history. Interesting that the lock body profile is the same shape/geometry as the HSBC logo!

[@illdeletethismusic]

extrusion as a process had been used for around a century before brass extrusion was made feasible in the 1890s. so it could very well have been an extruded part in the 1930s, with holes punched or cut around a central rod.

[@turn-a-keylocksmith4411]

Hmm very similar idea to the Honda High Security split tumblers. That padlock was really ahead of it time, I have never seen such a thing. Crazy how you had to pick it twice as well.

[@lockpickinglawyer]

I had to look the Honda lock up. THANK YOU for pointing that out to me. I had not seen it. I have one inbound now.

[@turn-a-keylocksmith4411]

Can't wait to see it man! It will be good to see as always. Im sure I will learn way more about it as well with you reviewing it.

[@danielroglich3309]

Great job picking brother. Nice addition. And thanks for the review!

[@dennisbishop3842]

Much better than most modern locks. It must be expensive to manufacture compared to a Master or other mass produced lock I'm guessing.

[@mauro.estrada]

Wow! That is a secure padlock!

[@Potti314]

Awesome lock - very cool that it comes apart so nicely. A great mechanism - I wonder why there are no modern locks using it. And not to forget your skilled picking on it. By the way, how did you know which wafer you had to pick on each side?

[@lockpickinglawyer]

Thanks. I knew which wafers to pick from looking at the patent drawings and from taking the lock apart and exploring. "I wonder why there are no modern locks using it." -- The EVVA DUAL is pretty close. Essentially the same thing, but with 12 wafers/sliders and with sidebars that fit into them.

[@debug9424]

+LPL Actually the four "anti-drill" pins on the side are "anti-saw", so you can't saw through the lock body, something the is not taken into account nowadays.

[@esper6119]

Oooohhhh

[@64akon]

what a tricky gutting great pick man

[@lockpickinglawyer]

LOL... only the first time. This was my third. :-)

[@edboree2067]

this thing looks like it would be a months work of prep-work to get into and another to gut it. do we know if its shimable?

[@lockpickinglawyer]

It's not that bad. I played with the lock (disassembled and picked) for about 2 hours before shooting this video. As for shimming, it is technically possible, but the tolerances were good enough that my shims would not fit in the gap.

[@bbuggediffy]

Can I ask a silly question? Why are lock pins referred to "that guy", or "got a click out of him". Is this a historical thing?

[@ratataran]

@@bbuggediffy no. That's just what he prefers to call them

[@VineFynn]

@@bbuggediffy people anthropomorphise all sorts of stuff. Its just human psychology

[@bbuggediffy]

@@VineFynn You are still not answering the real reason why LPL does it. You're armchairng an answer, which I guess is better than nothing in a KZbin comment field.

[@bradley3549]

I have to wonder how long it would take a locksmith of reasonable skill to pick a lock like this without having the luxury of the key and disassembly up front. I suppose the same could be said of a number of novel locks even on the market today.

[@TheEcarballo1960]

that's a pretty tuff little lock, awesome pick

[@lockpickinglawyer]

+Sidewinder Thanks.

[@themadhatter4761]

Fantastic work, appreciate the time and effort to pick that !!!! Thanks for the video.

[@lockpickinglawyer]

Thanks!

[@NoctisMotus]

Nice! Very cool lock. Thank you for the show and tell.

[@lockpickinglawyer]

Thanks

[@AmericanChoirboy]

It took 3 minutes to explain how amazing this lock is.

[@TheLizardOfOz]

Never before have I ever seen a lock that had to be picked to close.

[@Chopper650]

this should be industry standard

[@sirunknown2142]

Wow. I wish we could buy more locks as good as this nowadays! *glares at Masterlock*

[@illdeletethismusic]

Masterlock noticed how a lock like this makes theirs look in comparison, and bought Dudley

[@jeremiahgarbett2924]

You know a lock holds up when a lpl video passes the 10 minute mark

[@cloudfannotthatcloud8306]

Wow, am I the first commenter? Regardless, I wish more lock manufacturers were making locks like this today, with today's materials and other features. Nice job, LPL!

[@lockpickinglawyer]

Thanks... and there is something similar made today with modern materials and features: the EVVA DUAL

[@cloudfannotthatcloud8306]

Thanks for the information. I'm glad someone has pursued that technology. It might not be much fun for you to do, but I'd be interested in seeing one or more videos on locks that have been extraordinarily difficult to pick and why they were troublesome for you.

[@kevinhewitt1428]

I've never watched one finger so intently. Tension.

[@arizonacoinandbullioncolle3405]

thanks for sharing your awesome lock.

[@lockpickinglawyer]

+Arizona Outdoor Survival My pleasure.

[@thomasw.6945]

Thanks a LOT, beautiful lock(core)

[@mohammedayaiz769]

Great video and great lock

[@markfreedman2470]

Now THAT is what you would call a lock!

[@erniebaud]

My parents worked for Dudley lock in Chicago in the late 30s early 40s. I have this same padlock with the word SAMPLE in the blank space where a number would presumably be engraved.I also have some Dudley cylinders. Do you have any idea what, if any value this lock may have? Thank you for this video. It certainly shows the superb workmanship done at the time.

[@billbacardi3262]

Very cool lock thanks for your work LPL.

[@lockpickinglawyer]

Thanks.

[@AdrianWeber]

Now that is an accurate explanation! I actually believe that Burg Wächter copied that design for their Burg Wächter Diamant. If you ever get one please make a video and let me know what you think. If you ever get another of these Dudley padlocks let me know I would be interested in one. Thanks! Adrian

[@lockpickinglawyer]

Thank you! I'll have to look at the Diamant. I see elements of this lock design in so many lock designs. The modern Honda split wafer is probably the most similar that I know of (video 367). Another lock with distinct similarities comes from closer to you -- the EVVA DUAL. I will keep a lookout for one of these Dudley locks for you, but so you know, they do not come up for sale very often. I remember seeing 2 in the last year.

[@AdrianWeber]

I have time, running out of space anyway... take your time though!

[@senior_ranger]

Thanks for a great look at an interesting lock. Any idea why the key is notched with ridges?

[@lockpickinglawyer]

+wetracy Thanks. The notch is for easy identification of the top of the key. It will only work when inserted correctly.

[@bkthrill]

Nice lock. It seems that the wafers are more secure than pins.

[@lockpickinglawyer]

+Bill Stafford They can be... have you seen my videos on the DUO wafer locks?

[@dibarnu]

When other KZbinrs have 10 minute videos it's about monetization. When LPL has a 10 minute video it's because he has a unique and god-level difficulty lock that no mortal would ever attempt to pick.

[@leechowning2712]

No common locksmith would even talk to you after that. Yeah, 8 wafers... And twice as secure as any lock in my house.

[@djolds1]

Now THAT is QUALITY.

[@LDU2U]

That was very well done and quite interesting. Thanks for sharing :-)

[@lockpickinglawyer]

+LDU2U Thank you.

[@ChaseKelleh]

Now thats a nice lock