38 Spl And 357 Red Dot Loadings In Powder Shortage

[@jreed10291974]

I use red dot in 9mm 45acp 44mag 38 special 45 colt 44wcf my favorite load is for 45 colt 6.5 grains with any 250 grain hard cast or the same charge in 44 mag with a 200 grain hard cast. My problem is not powder its primers.

[@michael184272]

I've recently come across an old container of RED DOT.. I shoot a similar range of handguns that you mentioned above.. We're are you able to get your information on reloading using Red Dot? I've even called the Alliant info line but they don't share much..

[@tjmooremusic]

Hi FC. I can only say that I have been receiving lots of adds for red dot and other " hard to find " powders at fairly ok prices. Yes we pay more than we used to but it's still not bad.... 38special and 357 magnum are my specialty rounds to reload. So this video is right up my alley. As alway, thanks for another great video. Peace.

[@1957Shep]

I used to use Red Dot for light 38 loads. Mainly because I had got several pounds of Red Dot cheap at an auction. When I ran out of it, I went back to using Unique for 38s. I prefer Unique for just about all non-magnum handgun calibers. Have not had any trouble finding Unique in this area. At least not yet.

[@FortuneCookie45LC]

Shep - Best to stock up a bit on that Unique, because, from what I'm hearing - Unique is also unique to find… Best Regards

[@troy9477]

Great video. Lot of good load suggestions in the comments. Using what is available is an important skill. Red Dot will work fine, since we don't need max loads for practice anyway. Thanks for all your research.

[@badbob9596]

I started reloading about 6+ months ago and have never seen some of the powders you guys use like unique or promo.I have had good results useing IMR4227 14.5 grns.in .357.I can find accurate #5 and use 6 grns. for 9mm.I did find a lb.of American Select and had good results but its gone now.Its been pretty much take what you can get.Ive been carefull and these powders have worked but its a chalenge for a new reloader.The help i get from people like FC has helped alot and its been great fun.

[@FortuneCookie45LC]

Babbob- Thanks for your fine informative comments - Congrats on embarking on your career in reloading…It's one of the best pastimes there is next to actual shooting - and your shooting will be liberated from the high factory ammo costs and availability. Even though powders are shifty, we will find usefulness in the ones we get. IMR4227 is a FINE powder - wish I had a jug or two of it at this time - great for magnum pistols. Accurate #5 is very fine for the big three of auto pistol rounds - 9, 40, 45. And American Select is on par with Bullseye and Red Dot for standard handgun loads. Best Regards

[@beverwyck1]

I just loaded up about 1500 38's using red dot, blue dot and unique. I used a multiple of different loads and bullets all of which are in either the lyman or lee books. I'm using the same gun, 357 ruger blackhawk and the loads range mild to hot and i test fired a few from each batch and they work great. Now if it will warm up some i can go to the range and play around more to see which loads i like the best. I will say the blue dot seems to throw more consistent loads through my dillon pres while the red dot and unique will vary +/- a 1/10 of a grain and sometimes 2/10ths.

[@FortuneCookie45LC]

beverwyck1- You've got good powders there - all you need is Green Dot to fill out the spectrum. A Sweet Spot load is where you find the ideal 1) consistency 2) accuracy 3) non-leading (defined as routine cleaning is all that is needed) 4) economy. No doubt, you will determine very soon. If I want my Dillon to throw 8.5 grains of powder, whenever I check it, I get 8.5 or 8.4, I don't get the 8.6, funny, but that's the way it is…and I'm not complaining… Best to you, and thanks for the great comment.

[@beverwyck1]

FortuneCookie45LC I have green dot too among a few others. I was given a bunch of partial cans so right now I'm experimenting to see which i like the best. I haven't got into casting yet except for black powder but that will probably be my next step. Scrap lead is pretty scarce around here so i might end up buying it.

[@FortuneCookie45LC]

beverwyck1 Remember to check the dental offices - those dentists still using x-ray film all have lead foil they have to get rid of...And they will have boxes or jars full of that foil that they have to get rid of...makes great shotgun slugs... And if you are buying lead, check out b1gdaddy317 down below - he's selling lead for $1.15 a pound. Have a great day

[@shotgundrums]

I use RedDot for SASS 38 spl loads. 3.0gr under 125gr lee bullet. Shoot great from my two Vaqueros and Uberti 1873. Does the job well:)

[@FortuneCookie45LC]

shotgundrums-Thanks for sharing your Cowboy Action Shooting load and guns with all of us, pardner…You are all set for the next End of Trail...

[@mkshffr4936]

The hardest loads to find seem to very light loads where the main concern is very quiet but safe.

[@ovi1013]

I want to start reloading thanks for the tips

[@GunFunZS]

Excellent. I find that 4.3 grains bullseye makes a nice mild +p for a 125 grain lead bullet in either 38 SPL or 9mm luger. I often just move my powder measure over un touched, check that the weights are good, and use the same bullet sized to .358 in both. If your 9mm has a tight chamber, .357 is a better size. I've considered honing a lee sizer up to .3575" to make a one size fits all compromise. I've had both up to 4.7 without problems, but 4.3 seems to be a good number. 3.7 grains of green dot matches the impact point and approximate recoil of hardball 230 factory ammo, but using the Lee ".452 230- tc" which actually weighs 243 grains.

[@FortuneCookie45LC]

GunFun ZS - Good old Bullseye - 4.3 BE/125/38/9 sounds like a winner. And 3.7GD/230TC/45 is a good practice load…Thanks for the BE and GD loadings...

[@GunFunZS]

this video is a great idea.

[@FortuneCookie45LC]

GunFun ZS It works because of all the KZbinrs like yourself who are generous with their information....Best Regards

[@alexunfiltered5756]

Well, here's what I do: WSF powder for 357 magnum. Just use one scoop of the .5 CC Lee scoop of WSF ball powder, and use a 158 grain bullet. I prefer the semi-wadcutter kind. I know it might be too light, but it's my go to "Vanilla" load that I've been using for a while. WSF powder is just my basic go-to smokeless powder.

[@FortuneCookie45LC]

Alex Ehlers - Your WSF is Winchesters version of a handicap or magnum shotgun powder - slower burn than their older 452AA (now AA) or WST (Super Target) powders - all great powders for handgun loading as you have found. WSF is a fine handgun powder that will serve you well, and is not used as much as it deserves. Thanks for sharing your success with it... Continued good shootin' to ya, FC Steve

[@johnknouse8846]

I’ve been able to find several lb’s of Longshot in the last couple months, which is technically a shot shell powder. Some pretty good loadings for most pistol cartridges on the Hodgdon website.

[@darrenmccann2896]

FC45LC, Excellent idea. It seems if powder is avalible it is shotgun based. I couldn't get RedDot, but GreenDot was in. An excellent powder for "cowboy" and standard loads. My vote for the next powder is Titewad. I have used it for 148gr.HBWC and 140gr.cast 45/45/10 lube. Nice and clean, meters well and the "BEST PART AVALIBLE" in 4lbs jugs at LGS. The LGS is supposed to be getting American Select, my name is down for 8lbs. I see the counter keeps climbing towards 1000:-) Keep up the good work!

[@FortuneCookie45LC]

Darren McCann- Congratulations on getting GD and TW powders. They are also economical powders to use. Thanks for the good word, and always good getting your well presented comments… Best Regards

[@jimhelton5731]

I have been loading 44 magnum with Herco. Using 8 grains and Lee tumble lube .430-240 grain bullet. Nice medium load groups really well in a 7.5 inch Blackhawk. No gas check of course and no signs of leading.

[@FortuneCookie45LC]

James Helton - That sounds like a fine load for my Lee 240 SWCTL cast from 6 cavity mold and loaded without sizing (45/45/10 tumble lubed). Hard to go wrong with .430" in SBH. I have Herco and have settled on 10.1 grains of Herco and 7.2 grains of Promo (Red Dot) as well from my SBHs - we just might have 3 Sweet Spots here…Best to ya, and thanks for posting

[@b1gdaddy317]

I found 16lbs of Longshot i use it to load 9mm so far. I use a 124gr boolit with 5.3 grains of powder this is just above starting load. Got around 1050fps in a Hi-point c9 and 1350 out of a Hi-point 995.

[@FortuneCookie45LC]

b1gdaddy317 - That Longshot is a powder I would want - great slow shotshell powder with lots of pistol uses - and slugs as well. Congrats on getting Longshot… Best Regards

[@GunFunZS]

Thanks, I have a 995 and some longshot. I like the Lee .358 105 SWC in it, with up to 4.7 grains of bullseye. the bullet weighs 110 or 112 grains and really sizzles out there. The 995 really seems to like it. I don't have a chronograph, but you can see the steel jump a lot more than when hit with heavier bullets at +p pressures, so I know that longer barrel is making the most of this load. It may or may not feed in pistols, and is very touchy about overall length.

[@GunFunZS]

GunFun ZS IIRC this bullet will start to cycle 9mm autos at around 3.7 grains of Bullseye. It seems to hit at around the same impact point whether you load it hot or mild, which is very nice for not messing with the sights.

[@robbiefortner6426]

I like Trail Boss, excellent bulk for the longer brass, works like a dream. Have a good one brother

[@FortuneCookie45LC]

Robbie Fortner - That's another great powder, I actually have a bit of that - been saving it for some special use…Have a great day

[@GunFunZS]

FortuneCookie45LC +1 I was surprised with how economical it was too-- untill I got it home and realized a can was 1/2 Lb. I may be doing some 30/06 with it soon.

[@allenroblin2372]

First loads I ever did, were red dot, for 357 and 38 spl. 125 g bullets in a GP100 . 4.3 FOR 38 and 7.2g for 357. That was 32 yrs ago. I used a a Lee kit with a hammer then. Now I use Titegroup for 38 spl. and H110 for 357. Don't shoot a lot now but when I do 200 plus rounds of either or both.

[@christopherwinter6911]

Thanks for the info! I just pickup a Henry 357/38 Break open I have 2 pounds of Red Dot from my shot gun years! Can you please tell me what Primer you used to load your 375, Small or Small Magnum ? Thanks Chris

[@donaldatkinson7937]

A little late but same situation, 38sp bullseye 3.5 grains 10lb clip on wheel weights to 2lbs of soft lead, shoots beautiful, 5.9 grains of accurate #5 pretty stout, 3.8 grains of tite group, very accurate in several guns, burns dirty in light loadings, but clean as a whistle at3.8 but will really heat your gun up after just a few cylinder fulls. 357 7lbs of clip on wheel weights to 2 lbs of super hard mabe 8oz of 50-50 roughly 14to15 bhn, 12.2 accurate #9 , 9.8 grains of accurate #7 and 13.5 of 2400. All of these are 158 grain flat nose bullets, all have acceptable accuracy, some great. Shot two does at the same time, well 5minutes apart, with the load with accurate #9 ,neither went a ft, about 25 yards away from a tree stand. Hope this helps, oh these are not gas checked, and I have pushed that 357 bullet to about 1400 feet per second, and have shot 150 to 200 rds at a time with no excessive leading, just some streaking. The hard alloy bullet will not shoot good at low pressure. Hope this helps.

[@lmomechtech7709]

Very nice video! Although i have adapted my loadings of pistol to mainly Unique powder, I have picked up some loads using the Green Dot for the larger calibers as I got a little powder from my brother. I am still working up loads and will get back later.

[@FortuneCookie45LC]

Larry - Unique and Green Dot - spectacular powders that are well coveted in this era of shortages…Looking forward to see what you come up with…Best to ya

[@pr4runner]

I have not had to change out powders yet as I had loaded a lot a few years ago and was stocked up on powder. Now, I have been experimenting w/ using small rifle and small mag pistol primers in my 9mm. The sm mag pistol primers increased my velocities by about 25 fps ave. I am testing the small rifle primers next week. Loaded w/ SM rifle primers 10 at a time in .5 gr increments and will chrono and look at the primers after they are fired.

[@FortuneCookie45LC]

pr4runner- As you note, the book on using rifle primers in pistols is that the rifle primers are tougher cups, and may result in inconsistent ignition. I'm sure the results of your testing will be very interesting…Good shootin' to ya...

[@eqlzr2]

Haha. I never heard of shooting your gun to clean it, but if it works, who's to knock it! Also, I appreciate info about alternative powders for standard loads. One never knows what they're going to encounter in today's restrictive environment. I try to keep a range of powders in my reloading room just in case I need to get creative someday. Interestingly, your video just reminded me that I need to buy more Unique and Bullseye! Keep your fingers out of the way of that hot lead, and thanks. ;-)

[@ronramirez1963]

I have been reloading on and off for 30 years and have always used Unique, bullseye and universal for mid range 357 mag loads using a 158 gr lswc...6 grains of any of them produce between 1000 - 1100 fps never had a leading problem using Nevada bullet company, now a days there called x-treme bullets. for higher end loads I prefer h100. its a slow burner and works great out of a 6 inch barrel...13.5 - 14.0 grains. gets around 1250 fps. with the powder shortage the only powder I could get was a lb of red dot primarily a shotgun powder...hate starting over with new powders...from what I could find for 357 mag loads is to start out around 5.0 grains

[@FortuneCookie45LC]

Ron Ramirez - Thanks for posting your 5.0 grain load for the 357. Best to ya

[@morris4069]

Ron Ramirez yep 5gr of many fast powders gets you a good start. I have seven powders I play with and only load 12ga and .357. All are good for .357 and only a few for 12ga. My pet load of 3/4oz 12ga uses 700x, it’s also good for a nice shooting .357 load. For the one powder thing probably not the best. I’d say universal for that.

[@mikemull1478]

Hi, I use clays for all my light pistol loads Mull 1955

[@FortuneCookie45LC]

mike mull - Clays is a great clean burning powder - that's another powder we haven't seen hide nor hair of for over a year…Best Regards

[@thomasjefferson1457]

I happen to have a Ruger revolver identical to yours. Same length barrel. I love it. It has a 9mm cylinder with it and I notice my gun will shoot .38 specials and .357 mags really accurately but the 9mm doesn't shoot worth a darn. (group twice the size) I'm thinking it's because of the diameter of the bullet,. .355 vs .357 or so. But I rarely shoot 9mm. That was only for versatility during SHTF situation so that doesn't bother me. I've been trying some red dot lately and shooting it also in my 73 Win/Uberti rifle. I've had little luck in the rifle with lead bullets but it shoots fine with jacketed bullets. I have better luck with 4227 with lead bullets.

[@FortuneCookie45LC]

Thomas Jefferson - Lever guns are very popular now and not just because of cowboy action shooting. Whenever one of our lever guns shoots well with jacketed but not with regular cast, it is often because the groove diameter may just be a bit on the large side - say .359" for example. That will shoot fine with jacketed as the jacketed bullets simply slugs up in the barrel cleanly and all is fine. With cast, bullets a bit small will allow gas cutting and some leading of the barrel disrupting accuracy. Instead of slugging your barrel, an easy test is to get a hold of some slightly larger cast bullets - Matt's bullets offers .359" cast straight up and if you want .360", that can be arranged. If not, you can take their .359"s and specify no lube in the bullets - then powder coat them on your own = larger bullets. Load 'em and shoot 'em. If they shoot well, you have identified and solved your problem with cast. Otherwise, just shoot your regular diameter jacketed or less expensive plated bullets - Raineer, Berry's or Extreme for starters. Good shootin' to ya, FC Steve

[@thomasjefferson1457]

@@FortuneCookie45LC I use berrys plated bullets 158 Gr flat points. I've tried to shoot them with red dot, unique, bulls eye, and none worked very well. I started to use the slower burning IMR4227 and got much better results and was thinking it might be Because the bullets is probably reaching full speed in the first few inches of the barrel and stripping through the rifling, And the slower powder is allowing it to reach it's speed more gradually. I'm trying to get them up to about 1100 to 1200 fps just under the speed of sound.

[@b1gdaddy317]

Another powder i found was Alliant 300MP for 357 magnum loads i used 17grains of powder behind a 158grain boolit had to use a magnum primer to get this slow powder to ignite. Around 1100 fps out of a Ruger Gp100 6inch

[@FortuneCookie45LC]

b1gdaddy317- Natchez had some of that powder available not too long ago - I didn't know it was good for 357s - 1100 fps is nothing to sneer at - should drop deer in their tracks esp out of a lever gun probably 1400+ fps…Great comment...

[@b1gdaddy317]

FortuneCookie45LC That is where i got it from. I can load more in the case as this is at or below start level i cant remember i also use it in 44mag. Powder has a good smell also.

[@FortuneCookie45LC]

b1gdaddy317 Didn't realize the smell of powders was important until some shooter on an adjoining range was shooting this stuff that smelled awful - found out it was some kind of Russian ammo (but they don't all smell like that), and when I was doing my Steel shooting days - other shooters knew I was using Bullseye because of the smell...Best Regards

[@shootyoureyeout1181]

Finally got back to a 357...loving my vaquero and wanting to reload and shoot the heck out of it. So you say that if I shoot lead just atvthe end ofcthe session if I get some copper or jacketed magnum loads through there it will help remove some of the lead and help clean up the barrel. Or course I shouldn't have any lead if everything is loaded up right.

[@FortuneCookie45LC]

Shootyour eyeout - Good comment with questions asked without asking...Everyone gets some leading (shoot lead bullets and if chemical assay is done on the gun - there will be some lead there)...when I say that I'm not getting any leading, what I really mean is that normal cleaning procedures take care of any slight or light leading I am getting. A good indicator on leading during our shooting is that after 100+ rounds have been shot, the accuracy is still there. Loss of accuracy is usually from excessive leading. That has never happened to me, but I am sensitive to that. When a round is "touched off" nicely, the shooter should know that and the bullet should hit as expected. You will hear that shooting jacketed ammo or magnum jacketed ammo at the end of the range session should not be done as it just irons any leading in rather than blowing it out. I have not found that to be the case at all. With a flashlight after the powder residue is cleaned out, light leading can easily be seen in the barrel or cylinder throats/forcing cones of revolvers. I have videos on how that can be removed (there are other ways). But when I shoot the jacketed at the end of sessions, it isn't difficult to note that cleaning the gun is much easier. So I put about 10 rounds of maggies in my shirt pocket just for that reason - and shooting a few magnums is always good anyway for multiple reasons. I've found that shooting the magnums in a barrel that has shot lots of lead through it beforehand makes no difference in magnum performance and accuracy. I've heard too much grief caused by leading to easily know it is something we simply cannot have...I have a playlist on leading prevention... Best Regards to ya...

[@shootyoureyeout1181]

Thanks buddy...can't help it I just love to shoot. Been shooting cap and ball and blackpowder pistols, rifles and trade guns. Love it all...just need to find some more lead so I can start casting bullets again. Round balls ate most up. Thanks again!

[@jonwithnoh7]

Never tried to use Red dot for my reloads, my go to powder was always Unique. I wanted to keep the number of powders to a manageable level. Found some Unique just a month ago, so I'm ok for now.

[@FortuneCookie45LC]

Jon- Congrats on getting some powder you actually wanted. For many, including myself, we just have to get what's available and adjust to it. Another shooter at the range said he found 3 pounds of Unique at a gun show...before, all it took was one phone call...Best to ya, and thanks for posting

[@betchalife]

Ok one question I do have is at the end of the video, you say fire a full cylinder of .357 mag to clean the leading and shit out of the barrel from the .38 I was told by a gunsmith to NEVER shoot .357 in a cylinder that hasn't been cleaned after shooting a lot of .38 thru it because it will ring the cylinder

[@mannys9130]

Nah. The "ring" he was talking about was probably the ring of lead and carbon that forms at the point that the .38 special case would reach in the cylinder. After several rounds of specials, that ring gets larger and larger and eventually it gets big enough to make the extraction of magnum cases difficult. That happens because you're putting the longer magnum case into the chamber past that ring point that the specials created. The magnums run at much higher pressure, so they really iron the case walls into the chamber walls. The ironing creates an impression of that ring and makes it hard to pop those cases out after you shoot them.

[@tjmooremusic]

FC According to my Lymans manual Alliant 2400 works best according to their tests for 357 magnum in Several grains. I've been trying to find some and it just seems to have disappeared off the market. I know I can use other powders for both My revolver and Henry Big boy in 357. any suggestions on how to find some?

[@FortuneCookie45LC]

tjmooremusic - There is a triad of powders for magnum loading that are all good = 2400 / H110 (Win296) / Accurate #9. If you can't find one, either of the other two will do nicely with use of published loading data charges please. Them use different weights of charge to get the same performance. If you are shooting big bores H4227 or IMR 4227 or Lil'Gun can be added to that list to make a passel. Good reloadin' to ya, FC

[@tjmooremusic]

Thank you.

[@M1CHAZZ]

Although I have been shooting & reloading for 30+ years; I am just getting into pistol cal. 38. 357, 40, 45ACP & 9mm. What would be a good powder for all these cal that easily obtainable? Thanx

[@rachelgee7894]

M1CHAZZ hodgdon titegroup. 4.6 grains of titegroup works well in 9mm (115 gr) COAL 1.125 .40 S&W (180 gr) COAL 1.125 .45 ACP (230 gr). COAL 1.250

[@saltcreekammo]

.38 special 125 gr SWC 3.2-3.8 Titegroup OAL 1.445 (Lee loading chart that comes in die set). (I liked 3.5 grains). 9mm 115 gr plated 4.2-4.8 Titegroup OAL 1.125 (4.6 is dead on in a Glock 19). .40 180 grain plated 4.2-4.7 Titegroup OAL 1.125 (I like 4.6... Had this load crono'd by a friend 950 FPS). .40 SW 180 gr plated 3.9-4.2 Red Dot OAL 1.125-1.135 (Tested in Springfield XD40) (I liked 4 grains-- very nice shooting-- low recoil) .40 180 grain plated 7.2-8.0 Longshot OAL 1.125 (7.2 was even snappy with this powder. Would be a great powder for XTP's or other hollow points). .40 155 grain plated/XTP 5.1-5.8 Titegroup OAL 1.125 (I went with 5.6 grains). (Current carry ammo).

[@mikeperkins2376]

can you use red dot for 9 mm or 45 acp ? if so what amounts. ran out of 231 and hp38 but have a lb of red dot. thanks for information on the 38 and 357 loads.

[@FortuneCookie45LC]

mike perkins - Red Dot is a fine powder for 9mm and 45 acp. 115-124 gr bullets in 9 go with 4.4 gr RD; for 45 acp 230 grain bullets 4.8-5 grains of RD. Start a little lower and work up checking pressure signs and function…Best Regards...

[@Ford360CID]

3.0 TO 3.4 FOR 9MM AND 3.5 TO 3.9 FOR 45 ACP.

[@mikeperkins2376]

angelo soriano tried this and worked well thanks for info

[@Ford360CID]

it cycles the action just fine and there is only powder residue no leading. 3.0 gn charge equals 2333 rounds per pound. very economical as well as practical i fined it an excellent lead cast load for all or most calibers for target and plinking, enjoy all that it offers.

[@michael184272]

@@Ford360CID That with using the Red Dot? Correct

[@TheGunnut95]

I finally got around to shoot a lot of my cast 124 grain tc bullets tumbled 1/2 a teaspoon of Johnson paste wax per 150 - 200 bullet. from my lee mold for my 9mm hi point. I was using 3.8 grains of red dot. they seem to have a little bit more recoil than factory loads. I shot about 80 before I realized the muzzle had lead all between the rifling some of my rounds were key holing. is this normal to happen from time to time or am I doing something wrong? some of my rounds smoked a lot and others didn't smoke at all. how could I fix the leading problem? ( the rounds ejected fine. and shot 4 inch group at 15 feet or so. ) later on I found out that I should be using 3.3-3.6. GunFunzs said he uses 4.3 grains for a +p 125 grain in his 9mm. why doesn't his barrel lead?

[@mklean1]

More important than lubes is the size of the boolit. They must be sized large enough to seal the bore. Try slugging your barrel and adjust accordingly.

[@TheGunnut95]

they mold says it's throwing it to .356 I heard it throws it correct. will it lead if its too big?

[@mklean1]

Not as much as if it's small. I have a Springfield XD. Leads awful when I shoot a .356. But when I shoot my .357 leading is almost non existent. There are several god videos here on YT for slugging a barrel. My favorite is by Iraqvet8888. Check him out. He's got several really good vids on reloading. Another great chnnnel is by Ammosmith. These two guys have been my mentors for a long time. I think you'll like em too.

[@b1gdaddy317]

gun nut Check out the sticky on Castboolits dot com that is one of the worst boolits to use in 9mm

[@FortuneCookie45LC]

gun nut - as mklean1 states 1) bullet size .001 over barrel groove diameter is best for leading prevention; but also note following: 2) bullet alloy must be proper hardness for the velocity of load ; 3) lube appropriateness. 1) your bullet may be too small and leading results 2) your bullets should be BHN 18 for 9mm; see videos - I'm just about to post one on bullet hardness 3) plain JPW is OK for cowboy loads and standard velocity loads only - 800 fps - your 9mm needs 45/45/10 system-please see video on that…leading at the muzzle means lube problems. Leading near chamber throat or first 1-2" from chamber is problem with 1) and/or 2). Leading in entire barrel means 1), 2), and 3). Leading is a horrible problem and must be solved - no joy when there is leading Best Regards

[@joelopezjl28]

I Want a revolver like the one you have but I'm not 21 :c

[@fjb4932]

joelopezjl28 I hope you are now 21 and can start protecting not only your, but all of our 2nd amendment rights give to us by a higher power than our gov't . The 1st amend. is like a watchdog that can bark a warning. The 2nd is the watchdog that doesn't bark, but it can bite and if not heeded, kill.

[@gman77gas]

great site is www.handloads.com ( at the top left click on "Loaddata database") and go from there....lots of opinions.......use with caution.

[@hancockbrewer1465]

I just love a nice wheel gun. Hay Cookie if you have time check out my newest video I an showing my new Ruger thank friend.