#38 Winter test of BMW i3 33 kWh part 1

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Bjørn Nyland

Bjørn Nyland

Күн бұрын

I do the standard winter test of the new 94 Ah (33 kWh) BMW i3. This is the long trip. If you are looking for the short review, it will come out later.
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@Trades46
@Trades46 7 жыл бұрын
I made a mistake few days ago during the Autoshow I was attending. I was about to leave at 5pm...and I saw a kiosk which gave out EV test drives as part of a promotion of electric cars. The hot car was the new Chevrolet Bolt (or for you Europeans, the Opel Ampera-E) and the man in front of me took the Leaf, which left me with the i3 or Soul EV. I wanted to drive the Bolt but was told they would be closing in 5 minutes. So I took the BMW keys without much thought. After spending almost an hour in it...now I WANT an i3. Never before I've driven a car this quiet, relaxed, smooth and so serene in traffic. I think the EV bug bit me hard, and the i3 with its efficiency minded design & engineering only adds to the allure.
@Trades46
@Trades46 7 жыл бұрын
The Bolt is definitely nice (from sitting in it, playing with the infotainment and poking about) thought I didn't have the chance to drive it. 238miles (or 383km) of range is very tempting, but I'm not sure if it is as much fun to drive as the i3.
@jwhdesign
@jwhdesign 4 жыл бұрын
I just bought a used i3. It’s been a great first EV for me without loosing the usability of a SUV.
@JustWasted3HoursHere
@JustWasted3HoursHere 4 жыл бұрын
@@jwhdesign I like everything about the i3 _EXCEPT_ those super skinny tires! For two reasons: One, they're really skinny and most reviewers say that the vehicle can skid on uneven terrain (dirt roads, etc) and two, since they're specially made for the i3 they are quite expensive compared to "normal" tires. Supposedly they only last about 20000 miles (32187 km) or so, too, which makes it even worse. What has been your experience with the tires?
@Cloudrak
@Cloudrak 4 жыл бұрын
@@JustWasted3HoursHere The Continental EcoContact pro costs £100 a tyre for the i3.
@JustWasted3HoursHere
@JustWasted3HoursHere 4 жыл бұрын
@@Cloudrak In the end I ended up with a 2016 Kia Soul EV+, which I LOVE so far. Got a fantastic deal too: Less than $13000, less than 18000 miles and one owner, great condition. Had to have it shipped because they didn't sell it in my state, but it was worth it.
@Chrisb8s
@Chrisb8s 3 жыл бұрын
It’s fun to go back and watch some of the old test rides. I have a tesla but have always loved the i3. I also love these scenic road trips. Please do more
@makrylemis
@makrylemis 7 жыл бұрын
18:00 "love to grab something big and thick"😂😂😂 . great review btw! loving this extended length reviews
@youxkio
@youxkio 7 жыл бұрын
Yep! He only got himself, after saying , hahahahahhaha
@mcopanzan
@mcopanzan 6 жыл бұрын
Oh that was priceless! I advanced to this part jus for that one. And i love how fast its possible to write on that knob thingy. (soooo much faster than touch screens) PS: Bjorn u shouldn't touch that BMW knob. ;D
@nster3
@nster3 6 жыл бұрын
Rumble my butt, not too much, just perfect xD
@raven4k998
@raven4k998 5 жыл бұрын
I bet you do love to grab something big and thick
@e-care-books9867
@e-care-books9867 2 жыл бұрын
Bro Bjorn ... fun informative videos! Cheers!
@phonehoppy
@phonehoppy 7 жыл бұрын
Cool video! Btw. the latch on the back of the headrests is there so you can tilt the front seats so you can reach the door handles in the front.
@jmmg79
@jmmg79 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Bjork, as i3 94ah Rex owner thanks for this and other great vídeos. About your this i3 review just to mention that un the underfloor of the trunk is not correct that you hace an empty space reserved for only the Rex. Heat pump is located in that space and that It is the reason Heat pump is not available as an option for the Rex version. And last thing I think you miss to mention what I think is a very unique i3 feature "battery preconditioning" that is great un low temperatura conditions. It is only available if the car is equiped with heater seats option. Once again thats for this and the rest of your all videos I did not miss any of them 😀
@rpgfightin4ever
@rpgfightin4ever 7 жыл бұрын
11:21 this handle in the headrest is to allow a tilt of backrest forward
@ManjitSingh-jo9zs
@ManjitSingh-jo9zs 7 жыл бұрын
looking forward to part 2. test driving the i3 next weekend
@MrKroolboy
@MrKroolboy 7 жыл бұрын
The car can actually steer itself with lane detection only, so no car in front is necessary. The rest of the limitations you mentioned are correct. Greetings from Germany ✌️
@thrustsst
@thrustsst 7 жыл бұрын
I had expected Bjørn to knew BMW i3 so well that he will know that the front trunk is neither snow, water or dust tight. The gift that is wrapped in paper, I would definitely have put inside the car. I think that a special shaped waterproof bag is available for the "frunk" - the same principle as BMW has for motorcycle side bags.
@larryhendren9111
@larryhendren9111 7 жыл бұрын
Bjorn, have you seen the TV series Lilyhammer (filmed in Lillehammer, Norway in 2013)? Steven Van Zandt drives an i3 in snow around Lillehammer in the early episodes. We love our 2 year old i3 BEV - great engineering, but quirky looking. Adding a Tesla MX 90D next week which replaces my BMW X5. Excited. Can never go back to ICE. Thanks for the detailed reviews!
@TorjeRrvik
@TorjeRrvik 7 жыл бұрын
He used a Think City in Lilyhammer. 1th generation EV car, made in Norway.
@AndrewGoodladIchorus
@AndrewGoodladIchorus 7 жыл бұрын
I've had a Renault Zoe 2 years now, it has preconditioning. 5mins from key button or you can set to turn on or timer from the app. New Zoe has a battery heater too, so hopefully that helps in cold climates.
@BjrnRuthberg
@BjrnRuthberg 7 жыл бұрын
The title kind of indicated there would be a part 2... Looking forward to that...
@JA-ev1ho
@JA-ev1ho 7 жыл бұрын
Watching your video made me think of i3 again. So brought my wife to have a look at it at a dealer. Had a test drive and bought one. Then talked for a couple of days and have decided to sell our ICE car. On to test how life with pure BEV works.
@rubendewulf
@rubendewulf 4 жыл бұрын
And ? ... doing the same in a couple off days ...
@surreyshooter
@surreyshooter 7 жыл бұрын
Did you drive the trip in Comfort, EcoPro or did you switch between the two? My apologies if you stated this in the video, I must have missed it.
@jamnorge
@jamnorge 5 жыл бұрын
Vinstras a cute little town. Stopped in at Vinstra Toyota when I visited In order to check out the differences in Toyota's linup in Norway compared to their models available in the US.
@pesilva_93
@pesilva_93 7 жыл бұрын
Mine should arrive in a couple of weeks!! Exactly the same colour and equipment as this one. Only some different wheels and seats (I don't like leather seats...). Really looking forward for your review!
@tobytobyson
@tobytobyson 7 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for the great video and your valuable review of the car and I really love your German, so great and spot on. Looking forward to more of your videos.
@MrMoccachinoo
@MrMoccachinoo 6 жыл бұрын
The "button" at the top isn't a button. Its a docking possibility for the "exclusive" TomTom navigation system wich is crazy expensive (350€)!
@markusporsch9887
@markusporsch9887 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Bjorn, I am really surprised that you time by time throw in some german words, pretty well pronounced. I always enjoy the way you provide the information. The music around 38:00 is great :)
@G8YTZ
@G8YTZ 7 жыл бұрын
Bjørn. You get 30kWh out of the battery as regenerative braking is topping it up. The trip shows power used. So 27kWh available plus (say) 3kWh of regeneration. The old app shows how many miles you drive to get 1kWh of regeneration.
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland 7 жыл бұрын
G8YTZ Regen counts as negative consumption. The total energy available is therefore 30 kWh regardless.
@schinsky6833
@schinsky6833 7 жыл бұрын
Had this car as a rental 1 months. If I see the overtaking clips I start missing the crazy torque of this car. I almost forgot how it felt lol.
@golden-tm6ge
@golden-tm6ge 7 жыл бұрын
hi .... like this I3 , just wondering the REAR WHEEL DRIVE is good on snow ????
@maxreynoso
@maxreynoso 3 жыл бұрын
How would i know if my i3 has a heat pump? Mine is 2018 i3 S REX
@mckperera
@mckperera 7 жыл бұрын
I have an i3 and whilst it is very good there are some failings which I wouldn't have expected. Such as the anti-reflective mirrors the passenger side doesn't dim. The carpet was cut short near the acceleration pedal. The paint seems to be less stronger and tougher than on my other ICE BMW cars.
@luisag763
@luisag763 7 жыл бұрын
What do you think about the width of the tyres? Is it very unstable at high speed? Very Good Video!!
@tonymcflattie2450
@tonymcflattie2450 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Borne, why don’t you use what 3 words to report your charging locations, to make it easier to follow at home.
@f2.8vidz4
@f2.8vidz4 7 жыл бұрын
Great video & review... Norway looks like northern Ontario,Canada🇨🇦 where I live..but -6 is pretty warm here..I still wear shorts and a T-shirt around -6😂😂 Any idea how the I-3 would do around -20c & -30c? last winter we had -40c for almost a month then we had a heat wave and it stayed -24c for the next 2 months.. Cheers from ThunderBay,Ontario,Canada 🇨🇦
@treasureislandofworld
@treasureislandofworld 5 жыл бұрын
Great Review Nyland ! Thanks in Advance !
@iro-huncarguy8367
@iro-huncarguy8367 5 жыл бұрын
What winter tires did you have in the back? I can't seem to find any for 175mm 19 inch tires....
@markgoertzen2966
@markgoertzen2966 6 жыл бұрын
What temperature was it on this trip? Specifically do you know what temperature it was when you got 170km out of that first long leg of the trip? I'm wondering if under worst conditions in Winnipeg, Canada if I can get about 110km or more with the 94ah i3. So like -30c against the wind, going 100kmph, I'm actually expecting it would only get somewhere around 80-100km which isn't enough for me at least not for 2 or 3 months of the year. Thanks.
@JanMagnusGranson
@JanMagnusGranson 7 жыл бұрын
Hva bruker du for å snurre kameraet rundt bilen når du sitter i den (i starten av videoen)?
@pete9b
@pete9b 7 жыл бұрын
Great video as always Bjørn. Which do you prefer overall the i3 or the ioniq?
@stephenbryson5618
@stephenbryson5618 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Bjorn love your car reviews would it be possible to test the new bmw i3 120 ah 2018/19 thanks, Stephen
@alainparent7629
@alainparent7629 5 жыл бұрын
Don't mind me, i already have mind and they look exactly the same. :)
@MrOrbion
@MrOrbion 7 жыл бұрын
Nice review and trip. How's the steering? Is it as precise as other BWMs? You have experience of the 5-series.
@bonham1981
@bonham1981 5 жыл бұрын
I took one on a test drive and can attest that the car allows for very sporty driving. Remember, apart from the Smart EV, the BMW is the lightest BEV currently out there. And not under-powered by any means (125-135 kW). Not Model 3 quick but quick nonetheless. Btw, my current car is an early model Smart fortwo, which is probably among the most agile cars altogether.
@TTorebjo
@TTorebjo 7 жыл бұрын
great vid, loved the scenery shots across the mountains :-)
@aholestol
@aholestol 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bjørn.... very good
@E-BikeAndi
@E-BikeAndi 7 жыл бұрын
Du sprichst gut deutsch! :-) Your German is fine!
@petevr
@petevr 7 жыл бұрын
Nice review, I would love an i3 if the price was more reasonable. Was the car running on winter or studded tires?
@cadaverdogblix7448
@cadaverdogblix7448 3 жыл бұрын
What kinds of buns are available in norway?
@JeffHiemstra
@JeffHiemstra 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Bjorn, did you have any issues with windows fogging up fast with that cold -8 highway driving?
@youxkio
@youxkio 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Bjorn check minute 8:47, it was charging about 8kw/h, then, at minute 20:00 it was charging at 19kw/h so i guess the average is rising, as Tesla SC stations are the opposite. Nice CCS charging station, cheats in the optimist way.
@howtoanyofficial
@howtoanyofficial 7 жыл бұрын
You are wrong, The Renault Zoe do have a preheat app
@stansnape3634
@stansnape3634 4 жыл бұрын
if the car is so light weight whats happens in high winds
@deenisp
@deenisp 7 жыл бұрын
hello Bjørn can you tell more about this system of delivering stuff or maybe you can write down a link?
@phonehoppy
@phonehoppy 7 жыл бұрын
The app always takes that long to synchronize the settings to the car, and I think it's really annoying. It takes that long for changes to the charging and air conditioning schedule, immediate conditioning, horn, lights, locking, and unlocking the car...
@johnnystovner2495
@johnnystovner2495 5 жыл бұрын
Bra videoer du lager =)
@dennisc3880
@dennisc3880 5 жыл бұрын
“I would like to grab something big and thick”. Lol. Followed by awkward laugh. You are hilarious man and your review was very informative snd fresh. Thanks!
@SSLOW
@SSLOW 4 жыл бұрын
I wish you could test a road trip with the current 120mAh
@arkadiuszbrzoska8330
@arkadiuszbrzoska8330 7 жыл бұрын
27:21 This music is awesome :D
@glennfeldt_74
@glennfeldt_74 5 жыл бұрын
How much do you have to pay for a full charge? 🇸🇪
@mcopanzan
@mcopanzan 6 жыл бұрын
How much time did u spend charging?
@valentincolteanu3403
@valentincolteanu3403 7 жыл бұрын
What is the range and consumption in winter?
@merqutio69
@merqutio69 5 жыл бұрын
Looks like was ~170 km (not sure what mode he was in, and if the heater was on or not)
@XTreMe2k6
@XTreMe2k6 6 жыл бұрын
please drive the new i3 with the 120ah battery, love your long reviews
@bonham1981
@bonham1981 5 жыл бұрын
It's pretty much the same car except for the battery. I doubt that he will drive it again because it's being discontinued and there are so many other new BEVs.
@Trace32
@Trace32 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Bjørn, Bmw i3 or mercedes B electric ?
@WACONimages
@WACONimages 6 жыл бұрын
i3 is developed from scratch as an EV. It drives a bit like a kart almost
@einaraarnes1378
@einaraarnes1378 6 жыл бұрын
Do a late summer tast of the i3 or something like that....... just to see if BROOM got it right.....
@AshkanFarspour
@AshkanFarspour 7 жыл бұрын
Bjorn, that's not eucalyptus, its oak!
@francois8752
@francois8752 7 жыл бұрын
Zoe has remote climate control on an app! Zoe has programmable pre-heating ! Good video though; thank you.
@mrelvisp100
@mrelvisp100 6 жыл бұрын
How can 1% be 2,7 KWH, do you mean 10%?? (it is 3:48 in the video)
@51StPi
@51StPi 7 жыл бұрын
Norway looks cool.
@pcuser80
@pcuser80 7 жыл бұрын
Its cool -5C ;)
@marcgirard7551
@marcgirard7551 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Bjorn! Been a big fan watching all sorts of your videos! Question on the i3 - how do you find its traction and handling in winter conditions? Did you face a lot of slippery road conditions? Here in Canada, its almost a necessity to have all-wheel-drive but I'm curious what you thought of i3 in this regard. Thanks for the great videos!
@drxym
@drxym 7 жыл бұрын
I think some of the things about the i3 would bug the hell out of me, especially those doors.
@Mickymauserius
@Mickymauserius 7 жыл бұрын
1% SoC is not 2.7kWh, it's 0.27kWh!
@pcuser80
@pcuser80 7 жыл бұрын
The drone filghts are great wallpaper source..... Thanks
@srenprregaard8982
@srenprregaard8982 7 жыл бұрын
The alloys on the left side is mounted with incorrect rotating direction!! Two wrong alloys.... Crazy
@ivohawk
@ivohawk 6 жыл бұрын
music at 43:00 is inspiring
@stansnape3634
@stansnape3634 4 жыл бұрын
great music
@stili774
@stili774 7 жыл бұрын
30:00 Renau Zoe has preheat via app + Timer in Car .Nissan same, (and i think kia too .....)VW you Need to pay for it !
@berserk1521
@berserk1521 5 жыл бұрын
Kan du teste BMW i3 120ah i 1000km challenge?
@arenjay3278
@arenjay3278 5 жыл бұрын
Regeneration gives you what looks like a bigger battery.
@tomashenzl1363
@tomashenzl1363 7 жыл бұрын
After firmware upgrade it should have 29,6 kWh energy available...
@losmeets98
@losmeets98 3 жыл бұрын
I'll never understand why the frunk isn't waterproof, how hard can it be to add some rubbers or a lid?! Now you either have to use a bag or buy an overpriced i3 size frunk box :(
@manolacheionut3026
@manolacheionut3026 7 жыл бұрын
drone is great
@RuneVenes
@RuneVenes 5 жыл бұрын
34:15 illegal passing? (solid yellow line)
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland 5 жыл бұрын
Legal in that direction. Illegal in opposite direction.
@timmp.9065
@timmp.9065 7 жыл бұрын
"Achtung! Das schnelle elektro Auto komme" :D So cool. Where are you from?
@Gustavmonster
@Gustavmonster 7 жыл бұрын
Woher kannst du deutsch?
@m1k869
@m1k869 7 жыл бұрын
The place where the REX would live is occupied by the heat pump. You can't have both.
@MrKroolboy
@MrKroolboy 7 жыл бұрын
M1 K Actually the room where the REX lives is empty even with the heat pump. The heat pump occupies the room for the gas tank. So still you are right, you can't have both.
@Trades46
@Trades46 7 жыл бұрын
The resistive heater works fine in the REx, but the heat pump is more efficient in its operation. Since you can just get some gas to go farther, it doesn't bother the REx as much as the BEV.
@Lacuq
@Lacuq 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Bjørn, how is the highbeam on the i3? :)
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland 7 жыл бұрын
Not very good.
@sheriftaher4847
@sheriftaher4847 7 жыл бұрын
What calculator app is this?
@kleincamper
@kleincamper 7 жыл бұрын
i'm also curious to know this!
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland 7 жыл бұрын
RealCalc
@Anthroplast
@Anthroplast 7 жыл бұрын
play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=uk.co.nickfines.RealCalc&hl=en
@danisantos3255
@danisantos3255 10 ай бұрын
29:10 the speed isn't measured accurately by the car :) check on gps how many km you actually drove
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland 10 ай бұрын
km is distance km/h is speed
@danisantos3255
@danisantos3255 10 ай бұрын
@@bjornnyland i didn't express myself well. sorry for my english. i mean't distance, which is related with speed. the easiest way to check how off the reading is, is to compare the speed reading on the cluster with the reading on a gps app. because the speed/distance isn't accurately measured by the car, you can't come to the conclusion that the battery is bigger using the consumption v distance calculation with figures given by the car
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland 10 ай бұрын
The car actually misreports speed and distance differently. Speed is typically off by 3-4 % but distance is off by just 0-1 %.
@danisantos3255
@danisantos3255 10 ай бұрын
@@bjornnyland Ah. Okay mate. Thank you for the correction :))
@Somun-a
@Somun-a 7 жыл бұрын
You always seem to forget your recording camera at the charging locations. Then you realize and come back I guess ;p
@esunisen3862
@esunisen3862 7 жыл бұрын
3:26 Bolleland !!
@lynxpardia
@lynxpardia 6 жыл бұрын
Wow, that UI navigation thing seems incredibly cumbersome and clunky. Maybe I'm just spoiled by the Model 3 touchscreen..
@bonham1981
@bonham1981 5 жыл бұрын
It is. I borrowed the latest model last weekend for a test drive and I'm completely baffled why car manufacturers (not just BMW) insist on this push wheel navigation. On the other hand, the voice commands work very well. During the test drive, I used nothing else. Works for pretty much anything you can think of. And if it fails, you can simply connect your phone and continue from there.
@Joiedevivredesilives
@Joiedevivredesilives 7 жыл бұрын
Tested the i3 without the extender, only way to get any range is drive at 56mph/ 90kmh and in supereco + mode in good weather and with no air on. I managed just over 80 miles/128 km. Awful sat nav in my case was about 30 secs behind on turns. Also a 4 seater and you can't open rear door without opening the front door is a serious fault!!!
@JodBronson
@JodBronson 4 жыл бұрын
*Ohhhh Sheeeit!* 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@quavohuncho6156
@quavohuncho6156 7 жыл бұрын
I love when you say shiiieeet hahah
@chriscrossAC621
@chriscrossAC621 4 жыл бұрын
i am amused when the complaining to the part when the App is not connected to the Server: "What are you doing, is the Server down again? S c h e i s s e ..." only germans will know :-D
@valentincolteanu3403
@valentincolteanu3403 6 жыл бұрын
New battery avaible for this car ;)
@anima322
@anima322 7 жыл бұрын
But remember - with REX you dont have heat pump :)
@johnnysmile01
@johnnysmile01 7 жыл бұрын
i don´t like the style of the i3 it´s freaking weird, and lt look too plastic and the rear doors are even more weird, people can´t get out of the car... yeah not a car for me
@outpostprime
@outpostprime 4 жыл бұрын
21:05 Go inside and get them buns ;D
@semperwifi1
@semperwifi1 7 жыл бұрын
19:05 first time i've heard hi-fi pronounced that way. usually it's "high-figh"
@JohnDoe-vx3z
@JohnDoe-vx3z 7 жыл бұрын
semperwifi1 It's not. Hi-fi stands for high fidelity.
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland 7 жыл бұрын
Fortunately, how you pronounce the word won't change the meaning of it. In Thai, changing the tone will completely change the meaning, for example: "mae" can mean dog, mother or horse :)
@semperwifi1
@semperwifi1 7 жыл бұрын
John Doe, is wi-fi (wireless fidelity) pronounced why-fy or why-fee in English? If the former, why would hi-fi follow a different pattern?
@2ftpmarco
@2ftpmarco 7 жыл бұрын
42:18 Europallet = 80x120cm
@eos001
@eos001 4 жыл бұрын
I came here for the shiiiiii.. lol
@egilandersen1844
@egilandersen1844 6 жыл бұрын
1245 kg
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland 6 жыл бұрын
www.vegvesen.no/kjoretoy/kjop+og+salg/kj%C3%B8ret%C3%B8yopplysninger?registreringsnummer=ek30846
@cloud0746
@cloud0746 6 жыл бұрын
Bmw I3 BJ 2015, 30.000km, €22.000 zu verkaufen. Hochwertigste Austattung und alle Extras (Neupreis 42.000). Bei Interesse bitte einfach ein Kommentar :) Austria
@osdias
@osdias 7 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why people like leather seats. It's cold in the winter and sticky and sweaty in the summer. Besides it's as cruel as fur.
@Trades46
@Trades46 7 жыл бұрын
The mid-spec i3 if I remember correctly had mixed cloth/leatherette seating (the base model has all cloth seats). I actually prefer that over the all-leather seats in the high-spec i3 Bjorn has here. Best of both worlds :D
@wodenoftheangles3339
@wodenoftheangles3339 7 жыл бұрын
Most are faux-leather.
@esunisen3862
@esunisen3862 7 жыл бұрын
What should we do with leather then ? Burn it ?
@osdias
@osdias 7 жыл бұрын
I don't understand your question. You speak as if leather is an abundant natural resource with no consequences.
@AshkanFarspour
@AshkanFarspour 7 жыл бұрын
how about not consuming innocent animals to begin with?
@sgta
@sgta 7 жыл бұрын
Probably the ugliest EV there is?
@ewadge
@ewadge 7 жыл бұрын
LostSagittarius I like it. Think it looks cool. I'm don't like the suicide doors but otherwise I like it
@Trades46
@Trades46 7 жыл бұрын
An acquired taste. I wasn't a fan back when I first saw it in 2014. Today I'm actually a fan of its design once I learned why the car was built the way it is.
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland 7 жыл бұрын
It actually looks cool from some angles. Especially the white one.
@stefan.r
@stefan.r 7 жыл бұрын
Front is nice, back is ok. Side view is just ugly.
@jkhun3191
@jkhun3191 4 жыл бұрын
Ur ugly
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