#38 Winter test of BMW i3 33 kWh part 2

Second and last part of BMW i3 33 kWh (94 Ah) road trip. In this part, I travel from Trondheim and back to Oslo. On the way back I found out that the suicide doors were very useful when loading a 47" TV in the car.
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[@robmagee100]

Don't suppress your joy. Your enthusiasm is what gives life to your videos, and it's entertaining, not irritating.

[@mravecsk1]

x2

[@tongsli]

X3

[@Trades46]

i8

[@kasmopaya2676]

X7

[@ronaldmail00]

X8

[@andrewyork8208]

Do not hide your inner JOY ever :) - that's what we are here for Bjørn

[@sergiudan117]

Don't hold your joy noises, be yourself. That's why many of us watch your videos, for your naturality. Strictly informative is boring.

[@raven4k998]

@@karlcx just let it out!!!

[@tcole9612]

Love the noises - your videos are so interesting. Single handedly convinced me to buy Ioniq.

[@bjornnyland]

Awesome! One more EV on the road, even though it's not a Tesla, means one less fossil car on the road :)

[@phonehoppy]

Thank you Bjørn! Very cool video! And everything you said matches my own experience with the i3 very closely. Good luck!

[@Teslavangelist]

the low energy use is impressive, especially in winter

[@pcuser80]

These video are very entertaining and informative. Keep on going...... Thanks.

[@taminatorv]

Keep that joy coming in the videos. Haters are going to hate.

[@electriceagle8737]

Another great video with great images and nice music, very professional shots! The noodles makes it all complete😂!

[@fayelove1097]

Fab real life review. Thanks. Oh, love the joy noises.

[@tongsli]

I agree about your noises and quirks. That's why I like watching you. We can find boing all day long.

[@jesserevilla6331]

Man don't hide your expressions, Some viewers need to chill, and hear you through the voice & sounds of YOU! That's why it's called KZbin...Your are Gods special creation.

[@pete9b]

Brilliant Bjørn 👏🏻👏🏻

[@Trades46]

Norwegians are so nice; you confront a fossil ICEing driver in North America and the they will shit talk you, start swearing at you, call the chargers useless, call you a liberal etc. Even their thought process is in terms of fossil :D I'm just going to have to wait next year until the 2017 33kWh cars become cheaper (BMW Canada knows it has a good product and the lease rates are crazy). I'm probably going to go for the REx simply because Canada is like a 3rd world country when it comes to DC Fast chargers.

[@zaferaydogan1516]

A good selection of music this time. Keep it up Björn!

[@tordenbob]

Great work Bjørn, keep it up!

[@BhosaleSunil86]

yay I was just waiting for Ur video :)

[@JeffHiemstra]

Great videos man. I like how you refer to those other cars as 'fossils' :)

[@renevanderkraats3811]

I love his honest comments :)

[@phonehoppy]

Btw. the "Auto Steer" thing is sold as "Stauassistent" (traffic jam assistant) in Germany, so that's the reason it is limited to 60km/h: It's only supposed to be used in congestion, it's not supposed to be like a real autopilot or something. The i-drive has really reliable voice control as well. For me, it's very convenient to enter a new destination into the sat nav this way. It recognised almost every street and town name.

[@stoffelof3293]

It's ADAS level 2. It's not limited to X speed.

[@bbbf09]

That cup holder under the arm rest can come out and slot into the front . The best thing about the center console is their is no tunnel separating footwells and the console is also flat and at seat height. Which means if your driver door is blocked or opens into heavy traffic it is amazingly easy to slide across and slip out the opposite door. It was designed this way and I think this might be unique to i3 and is certainly useful feature.

[@dougabbott8261]

Sorry Officer I was not speeding I was just heating up my battery. Good video . Enjoyable and informative.

[@cyberflyer1]

Bjorn loved the first part looking forward to this second part shiiit lol

[@hamood470]

love your videos! keep it up. (and keep the long videos coming hahaaha)

[@TuanNguyen-pp4uo]

Great video. I hope to see it how it really can handle on the snow road.

[@4N2IN0JA]

I love the use of tie downs inside the car 😂

[@wodenoftheangles3339]

It's like Bjorn is married to his Tesla but has a mistress called Ioniq... ;-) lol

[@billyblackburn6600]

I’ve been thinking of getting a used i3... now a 94ah is within my buying range and after watching every road test yours is without doubt the most informative... it covered so much more pertinent points others left out.. I’m still slithering between getting a rex model but I want the heat pump facility..! Or do I wait till the higher capacity model comes within my buying range..? Anyhoo... good review and well friggin done..!

[@hansdek3085]

We love your innerjoy expressions! But then we are not Norwegian ;-)

[@Trades46]

I think the BMW throttle pedal modulation is done on purpose. One is to not alienate the drivers of fossil cars with its instant hair-trigger response of torque and the second I'm theorizing has to do with the i3 extremely narrow tires which is probably the reason why compared to all other EV the i3 has relatively low torque rating of 184lb/ft (the Bolt make 266lb/ft and the e-Golf has 200lb/ft). Does the initial throttle lag bother me? Electric motors still generate max torque at 0rpm so even with the delay the i3 still is amazingly zippy around down & still the most fun to drive EV outside of the Model S which is 2x its price.

[@KimHojbergJensen]

You really like the Ionic :-)

[@jesserevilla6331]

Tell me it's seems like your doing some climbing with the I3 is their a gage that tells you when your running 🏃 more juice?

[@hawedehre]

You can take out the cup holder under the arm rest and put it in one of the slots in front that you showed.

[@brianfish8269]

Hi Bjorn, nice vid, keep 'em coming. The Ioniq EV has front collision warning adjustable to 3 levels. The manual mentions vehicle and pedestrian together. I have ordered an Ioniq EV, I was tempted by the I3 but it was too expensive for me, with just a few 'extras' the price quickly rose above 40,000€. The car on display at the showroom was 57,000€ phew!!!!! (sheeeet!)

[@aquaacedever9341]

Can you lease? You can then buy at the end of the lease.

[@kwdavids1]

Let your inner joy out.

[@joshgworks]

Solid music choice.

[@bitmanev4331]

Hi Bjørn , I had a small PA Sound System in the back of the i3 with no problems :)

[@krugerdave]

Good video, Bjørn! Please do keep the non-Tesla videos coming though! These videos are some of the best resources available for aspiring EV drivers to get a feeling for what various cars are like on long distance trips. Teslas are great, but the ones that I would have a prayer of being able to afford (i.e. ones without an S or X in the name) are often compromised in ways that I think are likely to rule them out for me (microscopic trunk opening on the 3, anyone?) So I hope you'll keep the reviews of "normal" EVs coming too! I'll take an Ioniq with a bigger battery as soon as it's available, if it meets your standards :-)

[@alandrinkwater9867]

Set the pre heat to start from your key fob diamond button much easier to start it when you are charging

[@terry103001]

I have been looking to purchase a BNW I3, thank you for the information.

[@dirkdiggler69]

Did you end up buying an i3?

[@terry103001]

@@dirkdiggler69 purchased one recently, thanks.

[@ExperienceCN]

Doesn’t it have a kickdown for instant power?

[@aukanmeister]

Now 4-5 years later, is the app still functioning like in this video?

[@bitmanev4331]

cargo space is indeed nice. I can put my whole Electro Voice PA system in it; 2 active tops, 2 active sub woofers, mixing console, 2 tripods, cables and mic's.

[@Tedefiodor]

ioniq albo has the pedestrian and colision safety feaures. please refer to the official hyundai website for more details 👍

[@Gaute14]

Skal du ikke prøve den nye golfen? :( Har ikke økonomi til en tesla så blir selvpining å se på de ;) hehe

[@oemusik]

Oh the high pitch high freq noise from those charging stations... MY EARS

[@johnturner7322]

Too many stops, too much time charging! How would this trip (time driving and charging) compare to same in the Tesla?

[@simenraaen6089]

Hei Bjørn. Har nettopp fått i3. Stemmer det at rattet kan bli litt stivere/tyngre om vinteren?

[@atlantikav5902]

Another fantastic review Bjorn! Test driving a BMW I3 for my wife today. Thanks for all the superb Tesla Model S video’s , been following these from the first one! And at last I sold my Maserati Ghibli and bought a brand new Tesla Model S 75 in Black / Full glass panoramic roof & Auto Pilot 2 - fantastic car - Bought from Tesla South Manchester UK a few weeks ago - Great Tesla team and customer support. Keep up the great work and don’t curb your enthusiasm!

[@paulm.4394]

Have you had the AC compressor failure on your i3

[@lupesalex3910]

how long it took to drive from Trondheim to Oslo?

[@MrKroolboy]

Bjørn if you open the door from the outside while charging on AC the charging will stop. So maybe that was the case at the first charger.

[@phonehoppy]

On some 11kW AC chargers, the i3 sometimes behaves a bit differently compared to home socket or DC fast charging. Sometimes I have to re-plug, because if you do it in the wrong order, the car will sometimes give you a message that the supply voltage is low, although it's perfectly fine if you try it one more time. It may have something to do with the doors or the state of the driving switch. I have yet to figure out completely what is going on...

[@arenjay3278]

You need to test the Smart Fortwo EQ (EV). It has 7.2/7.4 AC or 22 kW AC no DC. But 45 minutes to charge to full.

[@Gutomino]

Hi Bjorn, tell us please what are charging rates of Fortum chargers when charging DC or AC. Is there any difference?

[@bjornnyland]

Gutomino 2.50 NOK/minute at DC and 1 NOK/minute at AC.

[@Gutomino]

Nice. In my country it's about 4.50 NOK/minute at DC (44kW) :(

[@aldra744]

Many chargers you have

[@bonham1981]

This might have actually been the video that convinced me to send my old, 16-year-old car, into it's well earned retirement and make some room in the garage for a late model i3.

[@James-zu1ij]

What is your opinion. I am looking to buy a second hand electric car. The choice so far given price of around £15000 - 18000, is small battery REX or a large battery leaf. The b250e merc is also on my radar at the extremes of my budget. what do you think. I do 60 mile round trip (UK) to work with the occasional long journey. I would love to here from you given you vast experience.

[@hawedehre]

I had the same plan. My daily commute is 120 km. Got a fully loaded 60 Ah Rex. I love it. I used approximately 15 l for 3000 km, the rest I was able to go electric. The REX takes away range anxiety completely, which is a fantastic feature, even if people might moan that it is not pure electric. The Mercedes B is quite unusable because it has no DC support.

[@beforebefore]

Have you done any "range per charge" with the 33kWh i3 ? I presently have a 2015 BEV which I bought (used) when I was only driving 34 miles/day... but now I drive 80 miles/day work commute, so I'm considering upgrading to a used 2017 model so I can hopefully go round-trip and only charge at home (which is dirt-cheap where I am). Public charging costs me an average of $3.50USD for 15kWh, but at home it would only cost me about $0.50USD... a big incentive to get the bigger battery. I will not get the REX... that defeats my original intent to jump-ship from gasoline. My concern is Winter range when it's 0°C down to -10°C. I've noticed on my 2015 that the 37°F (2.7°C) warning must be when the heat pump is no longer effective, and must use resistive heating... because the range takes a big hit below that point.

[@beforebefore]

@John Edwards Not having the routine maintenance of the ICE engine REX is the freedom I need... I've been maintaining my own vehicles since 1977, and am just tired of the mess. I will be selling my 2015 in favor of the 2017 or later 93Ah probably within the year... I've almost paid off this one in the 2 years we've had it. With the REX, you're always hauling around that 350 extra pounds, which is about 13% more than the BEV.

[@aukanmeister]

I would say that is totally on the limit of what this car can do comfortably, based on the calculations in this video. I don't own one myself yet. What did you end up with? I know my comment is a bit late, sorry for that.

[@beforebefore]

@@aukanmeister I still have the 2015 BEV, and just charge at each end of my commute... daily.

[@mckperera]

Range test in the polar vortex!

[@SuperBacchus007]

Mark Knopler music in the background? That must have cost some $$$ !

[@aquaacedever9341]

I hope you review a BMW i3 REX Sport model 2018. And then the battery upgrade version in 2019. I'm glad other people are waiting in line for a Tesla, but, I'm loving the i3.

[@bjornnyland]

+AquaAce Dever I don't review fossils.

[@cednicek]

I a week I am getting a test drive for 3 days for i3. Because me, wife and son just love it, we are going to buy 120Ah 2019 model next year. I cannot wait :) I am planning to create a KZbin channel to share experience and fun. Currently we have Renault Laguna GT, so powerful fossil with 4 Control. And we also love it so much, it will be hard saying goodbye. In Czech Republic it is not that great with charging stations, but hopefully it will become better over the time. Talking with somebody about EV here is sometime looking like the same flamewar as iOS/Android.

[@eeerrrrrrr2828]

cednicek Any luck with this? I’m considering a Rex for Czech Republic.

[@funkydunky1430]

Every charging spot should have a camera and sign to prohibit ICEs and Plugins not charging. Giving a ticket automatically. That will teach them fast.

[@thespector8587]

Funky Dunky why wouldn't plugins be allowed to plug in? it's literally what they're are partly built for.

[@funkydunky1430]

TheSpector "plugins not charging". if you are done, move the car somewhere else.

[@thespector8587]

Funky Dunky can't believe I read past that. my apologies.

[@xbax007]

“The suicide doors are great for putting in large items or large people..” 😆😆

[@justice4g]

the I3 wasn't meant for long trips or to even use public charging.. use the REX and hold charge at 75% for those rare occasions it's meant for.

[@mannygee005]

Don't stifle your enthusiasm. Those who criticize probably aren't going to stick around anyway.

[@raven4k998]

Don't suppress your joy. remember that line from Armageddon (Just let it out)

[@garrycroft4215]

Want instant torque? Turn off tracksion control. Not recommended in Norway or in the wet and icey.

[@todd3518]

if i run my heater i can only go 35 miles on a charge!

[@granaldo123]

Om jeg skulle kjøpe en brukt I3....hvilke ekstrautstyr er et must? Digger denne youtube kanalen din!

[@MrSpelkanalen]

What happened with your tesla?

[@bjornnyland]

My Tesla went back to the future.

[@JA-ev1ho]

Charging spaces should be made more obvious otherwise you can't expect ICE drivers to know they are blocking electric drivers.

[@phonehoppy]

We have that situation in south Germany at the moment, they built many new fast chargers, but the markings and signs will be done only later, supposedly because they can't do it in winter. So the fast chargers are sitting next to ordinary parking spots, and are usually ICEd... A pity, because many of them are still usable free of charge.

[@pesilva_93]

Bjorn the bottom of the trunk is not usable because it's where the electric motor is and not only the range extender (if equipped)... The electric motor is on the left side and the range extender (if equipped) on the right.... That's why is not usable even in the non range extender version. :)

[@funkydunky1430]

Urban Rider, do you have a schematic for that?

[@Trades46]

BMW could have went a step further and add in a small storage compartment (similar to the frunk) next to the electric motor assembly in the i3 BEV since the area of the range extender becomes unused. But then again in the BEV version there is actually an aluminium cross-member sitting where the REx engine would be; so my guess it is actually a stress member of the chassis so something has to hold the car together.

[@JA-ev1ho]

But BMW claim it is born electric... they should have designed it so the BEV version don't have that fair amount of wasted space where the REX should be. Perhaps have designed it so the drive unit could be reconfigured to be low and wide instead of tall and narrow. Or made it so a REX module could be plugged in when you need to go on a long trip...

[@pesilva_93]

Funky Dunky a.gaw.to/photos/1/3/9/139763_2015_BMW_i3.jpg

[@pesilva_93]

Even with a generator it's still "born electric"... The generator only produces electricity to charge the battery when you can't plug in...

[@Chrisb8s]

Make all the noises that up I want.

[@ralfahsbahs2223]

It´s a Pizzacutter not a Tire ;)

[@davetravels9273]

If you don't get a range extender, you can get a heat pump instead, which I am sure this car has. So there is no extra room down there. ;)

[@davetravels9273]

+Thomas Wolf I don't think the battery is smaller on the REX. The decrease in range is due to the added weight of the REX and fuel tank, plus no heat pump. EPA range is 183 km for BEV vs. 156 km REX

[@Trades46]

Well the REx then adds ~110km per tank to your trip, and can keep doing so indefinitely until the next gas or charging station. Also the REx heater is no slouch; it may not be as energy efficient as heat pump but it does well in -10degC (at least when I test drove mine).

[@davetravels9273]

+Trades46 definitely, but then if you are buying the i3 REX because you need the range, maybe the i3 isn't for you? It is also not very efficient to run the REX (7-8l/100 km) and you don't want to stop every hour to refill the tank. The REX really should only be used as a security blanket or perhaps those few times you need to travel longer distances. It is no Chevy Volt. Also, in some regions you do not get the same government incentives for the REX as the BEV, but that will depend on your market.

[@Trades46]

Dave Travels We do in Canada. Also if you live outside any major city, I feel the REx is better simply because the amount of DC Fast chargers is almost a joke in comparison to Norway. Add to our equally cold temperatures, I rather take the REx and be safe than sorry.

[@davetravels9273]

+Trades46 understandable, but I would be even more inclined to go for the 94 Ah with heat pump in your case given the cold temperatures. From what I have read, the i3 has far less of a range detriment in winter than other EVs, especially the Leaf, AND if you precondition. If that doesn't work, then why not hold off for more EVs with larger batteries to come to the market? You could also consider the Ioniq EV, which has also been show to super efficient, even in cold temps. Finally, don't you guys have the Bolt? I don't know where you are in Canada, but I heard that you can get $14k CAN in rebates in Ontario!

[@emanp.8803]

Please dont suppress your joy......because for sure is not for the looks.....ahahahah just kidding....you re great

[@rodlister3098]

Very grey video..but enjoying you comentry

[@ricsoares10]

Samsung. Yeah. Very good.

[@DennisMathias]

Glad the little cars are over..miss Tesla reports.

[@Trades46]

As much as I like Tesla, I love these other EV reviews. No traditional car journalist is crazy enough to take a e-Golf or i3 BEV way outside of city limits and test their real world range in freezing temperatures. Affordable EV will be majority of what the population drives, not $100,000+ Teslas. For that Bjorn I want to extend a thank-you; you probably made me a bigger EV nut than I originally was from your electric car road trips in cars obviously not designed for them.

[@DennisMathias]

Um, I think your wrong about that. The Tesla model 3 will be $35k and have an over 200 mile range. Others are golf carts.

[@bjornnyland]

Ioniq has about 170 mi range and cost less than Model 3 will be priced. It is about the same size as Model 3 as well.

[@qatari4qtr]

Don't hide yore joy, most of you're viewers like you're style ... OH SH******T

[@MayContainJoe]

Don't try this at home, kids. TVs always have to be loaded and shipped in upright position, otherwise the risk of the glass breaking under its own weight is very high.

[@bjornnyland]

Incorrect. LCD screens don't use glass (unlike plasma). LCD screens can be transported horizontally: www.techwalla.com/articles/can-i-bring-home-a-lcd-tv-laying-down

[@MayContainJoe]

I'm sorry to object, but there is a lot of incorrect information on the Internet. An LCD (the liquid crystal display itself) is made of multiple layers of thin glass with liquid crystals between them. Also it's not unusual to have a layer of air (!) between the panel and the protection screen in front of it, so knocking the front of the TV won't risk breaking the panel immediately. But that means the panel - only supported at the edges - bends under its own weight and may crack due to gravity when laid down, especially when it gets bumped up and down then. It's not the robust front screen which might break, it's the display panel behind it making the TV a total loss immediately. Have a look at a cut through a typical monochrome LCD on electronics.howstuffworks.com/lcd2.htm TV panels are built the same way with a backlight instead of a mirror (by default LCDs are transparent). Only the newest curved LCDs feature plastic layers.

[@nowmyway]

27:00 Volkswagen.....

[@Stoffe46]

Hope not wi-fi look at the video 😜

[@Wojtekpl2]

This BMW looks very untidy (or cheap) made. Lots of gaps between the panels, door seals etc.

[@manoman0]

I like the suicide doors but the car is a disposable EV once you're involved in a crash. Good luck repairing that carbon frame.

[@manoman0]

All (ALL!) BMW i3's ever produced have been recalled in the USA. So much for german quality.

[@PeterQLarsen]

Today I stopped at the local BMW dealer to see i3 for myself. What a disappointing car. I am 182 cm and when I sit in the driver seat I could not fit on the backseat. Backseat space are tiny - it is more like a two person car. Then there are the rear doors - what!! total fail design. If my daughter needs to hop on board she has to open a front door, then the rear door, close rear door - what about the front door now - assuming she used right side which will usually be the case - you do not go to left side and stand on the road to get in. Come on complete useless design. Here in DK EV's can't sell by the way. They are too expensive and charging is also expensive. No competition for an ICE car for now. Hybrids like Toyota Auris could be an option - but why can't it tove a little standard trailer? Again the ICE model can. EV's makers - get into the game. For now no EV's for me. Have to wait and see what a model 3 can offer. An X is too expensive here. Stupid government.