#389

In this episode we are going to rank the 76ers new big three, debate which East team poses the biggest threat to the Celtics, if OKC is the favorite out west, and if the Mavericks or Nuggets have a better chance at making it back to the finals.
Hosts: Joel Moran, River Brown, Andrew Velez, Joel Dehls
Producer: John Tortorelli
Guest: Hoop Intellect (Keandre Ashley) / @hoopintellect
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Intro 00:00
1. Best Trios in the NBA List 23:54
2. Knicks, 76ers, or Bucks: Who’s the Celtics Biggest Threat? 01:07:13
3. Celtics insane payroll 01:23:12
4. Hoop Intellect joins the show 01:37:37
5. Blindly ranking bad NBA contracts 01:41:14
6. Would you rather: Paul George edition 01:56:36
7. Hoop Intellect’s draft winners 02:06:00
8. Rob Dillingham with the Timberwolves 02:07:39
9. Hoop Intellect’s draft steals 02:18:04
10. Zach Edey’s fit with the Grizzlies 02:20:28
11. OKCs great offseason 02:29:45
12. Mavericks vs Nuggets 02:43:35
13. Riv’s blindly ranking 02:58:00

[@kjreed953]

ngl the streets lowkey need john on the show regularly wit yall 🤣🔥

[@andrewcabrera1554]

The hood loves John

[@ezanakibret8253]

Get him on the zoom call if they don’t have enough space in the studio

[@vondjango9228]

These mfs spend half the show trynna punk/bully John 😂 . The boy John be holding it down tho !

[@coreywashington152]

This Jordan Poole Deandre Ayton conversation is cooking 😂😂😂

[@douglaspatrick7280]

I would take Poole over Ayton

[@coreywashington152]

@@douglaspatrick7280 I’d take Poole over Ayton as well

[@dchappell2020]

Feel like y’all need to change the setup to allow John to be the regular fifth for the rest of summer episodes and then when he is zooming in have an edit of his camera feed in post edit to have him on an end of the setup with yall

[@CrazyBrainCory]

4:43-5:06 RIV WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK BRO? 😂😂😂 Dehls getting ACCUSATIONS!

[@jeffhardy233]

Drew really hate Luka😂😂it’s so sad to see. When they played each other the whole series You can see the clear gap between the two like stop it please bro.

[@kjreed953]

Yall always come thru wit a episode when i need some to watch🐐

[@ezanakibret8253]

1:45:00 I would rather Poole and it’s not really close, the reason Pooles stats get so much better post all star break, is because of the Wizards new HC Brian Keefe. Before he was the interim HC, Wes Unseld JR had Poole playing SG next to Tyus despite the fact that their games didn’t complement each other. Then interim HC Keefe benched Poole and made him this 6 man PG off the bench, then Poole started to play much better on ball. Tyus all of a sudden gets a mysterious back injury and now Poole is the starter at PG post all-star break. As the PG he averaged 20.9 pts, 3.3 reb and 6 assists per game. Wiz still didn’t win many games but they were covering the spread consistently and being competitive. Lastly, all the reporting that comes from GS or DC about Poole, talks about him having a great worth Ethic, despite his reputation. Can we say the same about Ayton ?

[@ClutchCity71]

Nobody argues mid players like PAS lol

[@gregmontoya945]

almost turned the video off when joel picked the wolves over the nuggets lmao

[@bencrabtree5647]

You mean the team that beat the Nuggets in the playoffs ? If anything Nuggets didnt get any better this offseason, they got worse

[@Shortballa11]

How? They beat them head to head

[@scottenglund1486]

Denver is god awful 😂

[@taj3618]

If they’re ranking them as a big 3 I can see the Wolves over the Nuggets

[@riles3100]

2:24 wild 😭😭

[@acewocc6708]

😭😭

[@daniellee1037]

hoop intellect is the goat

[@jhordingibbons8380]

Lmao why did this come out at like 2am 😭😭

[@MO-rl9gl]

Gotta move time zones man. Came out at a good time for me😎

[@KP-sh9he]

What time zone you in?

[@MO-rl9gl]

@@KP-sh9he 0 GMT brotha

[@dacoryowens14]

Do we seem to forget about ja morant 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@Blackaquaman25]

They forget all the time well expect Riv

[@jayrodriguez2408]

Don’t worry bro, Ja gon show everybody who pushing him to the side in the best player/PG talks.

[@lillifeo5547]

Hoop intellect was not ready for that argument 😭

[@sheadefalco]

you know its the offseason if we get into Poole/Ayton arguments

[@pemp9606]

Legendary episode 🤣🔥

[@TheTwistedArcade]

HOOP INTELLECT x PAS ⛽️

[@Bootylicker2000.]

been a minute since i been on time PICCKKK AAA SIIDDEEE

[@hopathin5921]

That DID NOT get edited out

[@dierroe1729]

Bro why was Riv trippin 😂😂😂

[@hopathin5921]

@@dierroe1729 shi was so funny tho ngl😂😂

[@ahmedally7102]

Episode 400 yall gotta bring all the OGs on and do a legendary PAS trivia. Do it for the culture

[@Jt07Pack]

I had never heard of Hoop Intellect before this but I agreed with all of his takes. Very smart basketball mind!

[@Mert1905..]

I’m in need of your prayers and healing vibes. Please keep me in your thoughts as I work towards better health.

[@adrian-ek8do]

crazy how the spurs have the best future and no one talks about it

[@user-ci7vu7eo9w]

They don't have it

[@Shortballa11]

OKC has the best future. Spurs have top 3 maybe number 2 best future

[@mynamerell7392]

thunder rockets magic spurs mavs

[@scottenglund1486]

​@Shortballa11 okc isn't better than Minnesota so no they don't 😂

[@mynamerell7392]

@@scottenglund1486 they have the best player and a deeper team plus unlimited draft picks so what are u talking ab 😂

[@riles3100]

fantasy reaction this thursday?? it’s about that time 🙏🙏

[@jackstamp1995]

Roll up, play some 2k, listen to you boys 💯 Shout out Joel, I put $100 on on mavericks to win it all @+3500. Went ahead and hedge it with Boston to win. Came up. Love yall boys

[@ShonSecluded]

I’m actually proud that yall didn’t do the what if shit with yalls takes and talked about the history of what actually happens with Joel and Paul. I hated that shit with the clippers “if Paul and Kawhi are healthy” had to hear that shit for 5 seasons and they had nothing to show for it.

[@Blackaquaman25]

3:24 so scared for RJ 😭😭😭

[@soopss6640]

Why do they keep giving jokic a pass for blowing a 3-2 lead and a 20 point lead in game 7, any other superstar is getting insane hate and scrutiny

[@taj3618]

I feel like once a superstar wins it all they get less scrutiny if they lose after

[@lil_truth]

look at his stats bro, he was unbelievable. his team sold him hard, like super duper hard.

[@LetsPlayerAshe]

Giannis > Jokic still imo, he provides way more defensively and I think a very similar output offensively if not damn near identical. Giannis is way too slept on

[@howdareyouexist]

giannis does not have similar output offensively 😂

[@ninoboom2453]

@@howdareyouexist besides passing and shooting what else does joker do better than Giannis?

[@ReeseC07]

How can you rank big 3s and factor in team success

[@BookOfChan]

twitter/socials is wack af. That Negative shit is dead

[@swaggyyyy5]

14:21 ayooo 😭

[@lakasfan24]

That shit was CRAZY

[@Jhjjjjjjj]

When does the new episode drop

[@pickaside]

12 pm est tomorrow

[@robertschieli5015]

I lost brain cells with that Riv and Drew argument

[@rodneyrutherford7099]

Aint nobody out playing jokic win or loss

[@ninoboom2453]

Giannis

[@drewp839]

Ant who’s not a top 10 player did it a couple of games

[@rodneyrutherford7099]

@@drewp839 🧢watch the episode and riv well tell you differently

[@drewp839]

@@rodneyrutherford7099 I watched the games and the stats agree with it, game 1, 2, and 4 ant was better than jokic

[@teelotus3326]

Drew you earn more respect for saying Jaylen Brown is your favorite young player because he’s mine as well. Real recognize real 😤💯🎰🧃🔥🔥🔥

[@taj3618]

Y’all should’ve said ranking teams top 3 ,not big 3. Can’t be a big 3 unless all 3 are Allstars

[@wwenexusfan908]

Thinking Mikal is better than OG is valuing aesthetics over effectiveness.

[@Christo_Trismegistus]

OG is injury prone is the biggest reason

[@wwenexusfan908]

@@Christo_Trismegistus that’s a fair retort. Mikal is basketball Cal Ripken

[@Christo_Trismegistus]

@@wwenexusfan908 but OG for sure has is more explosive and has way higher ceiling/potential

[@howdareyouexist]

will be hilarious to see the philly big 3 fail just like the suns big 3 failed which joel also hyped up 😂

[@YungObi617]

Lets gooo!

[@sydoesgames]

not putting russ at 1 was insane

[@Jaycheong95]

I already know Drew about to talk shit on my nuggets after seeing his twitter. Jokic coming on ur lakers again

[@taj3618]

Pause

[@angelsaint-hilaire4372]

Dude really said he will put SGA/JDub/Chet over Luka/Kyrie/Klay, when Luka/Kyrie/PJ beat that OKC squad.

[@bensonincorporated3078]

We let a guy argue paul george wasnt an all star say he was all nba just because he changed teams.

[@manadam7669]

Prime T-mac over the rest. Ppl forget how amazing this dude was.

[@bduptownsquirll72]

Almost 400os crazy

[@angelsaint-hilaire4372]

The OKC/Dallas series wasn’t as close as my guy was making it seem. Dallas would have finished them in 5 games if they didn’t just let their foot off the gas in game 4 when they were up big in the 1st half. Only game OKC was better was in game 1 and that’s it.

[@Siahpapaya]

Boston dehls aint ever beatin the allegations

[@TheTailgate_sports]

He won a 3PT contest😀

[@will3250]

1:35:35 what the fuck was this the last few minutes and minutes after this was shit😂

[@primatav5746]

Need John to be a regular on here

[@angelsaint-hilaire4372]

@Joel DJJ didn’t held SGA to 37%FG. Shai shit 50%FG and 55%3PT in that series. I think we are overrating what DJJ was as an individual defender. Naji will be better vs Shai and the Brown/Tatums of this world.

[@angelsaint-hilaire4372]

Yah definitely projecting on OKC. JDub and Chet were terrible, so how can you put them over Luka/Kyrie/Klay?

[@Wrestle_Kingdom]

That how it works when predicting things before the season we can’t expect everyone to be the same or everyone being healthy because that unrealistic teams can improve or decline it just depends on what you want to believe and since they’re young and are one of the best organizations expecting jdub and chet to improve Isn’t that crazy If nobody projects then we have to expect the playoffs to be the same but we know that’s not going to happen

[@angelsaint-hilaire4372]

@@Wrestle_Kingdom I don’t disagree that they will likely be the top seed in the West. They didn’t have any injuries last year. Mavs had Kyrie, Lively, Kleber, Exum, Green and others miss 25-35 games each. Kyrie is always hurt, so I dont expect the Mavs to be the top seed. But when it comes to the playoffs, I can’t put OKC over the Mavs.

[@vonnypooh8564]

the russell westbrook disrespect needs to stop how are you going to hold his playoff efficiency go against him when everyone else listed isn’t a good playoff performer he should be no.1 on that list

[@raybeals]

And there was no context given just Russ’s efficiency was bad, like the teams he had were good help for him

[@noahtutlis7428]

Dame and tmac both have 7 all nba, tmac has 2 first and dame 1, tmac has 4 top 6 mvp finishes and 6 top 8, dame has 5 top 8 and 2 top 6

[@dangeloc201]

This why people so mean to big buddy 😂😂😂 dude be wrong and start getting wild

[@ypcfoster7581]

i don’t think Giannis is more talented than KD but he’s a better player

[@bencrabtree5647]

Until they trade BI, purely based on talent Pelicans have one of the best big 4 in the league

[@acidicspinach8199]

HOOP INTELLECT

[@LegendKillxr-]

Sleeping on Mavs depth!! Lively PJ Gafford Naji Grimes Maxi Exum Hardy That’s really good depth compared to 90% of the league

[@KP-sh9he]

Y’all seen dehls war cry😂 2:03:09

[@cdj93267]

Am I buggin for saying Rays early years with Milwaukee and Seattle could be the same as Dames time in Portland 🤔

[@ninoboom2453]

Ray didn’t have a players like Giannis

[@KP-sh9he]

2:19 my dawg riv stamped it. Not on RJ riv. Let’s ya know how serious my dawg is. Let’s go Riv academy

[@drewp839]

Denver is a first round exit

[@The_Voicee100]

Anthony edwards has bad off ball defense to😂

[@Zaythatniqqa]

I got John ML against riv 🤣

[@Ceemoneyyyyyy]

need intellect on the show at the miniumum once every 2-3 shows

[@LetsPlayerAshe]

Nah sag off defense is weak asf 😭😭😭 it’s like backing someone down the entire time. Play up and play defense even if the person ain’t a shooter

[@JT-lj2yp]

I can’t take the NY d riding this whole squad does

[@The_Voicee100]

Bro we’re really acting like Jamal murray wasn’t playing on a bad leg they can’t guard Murray he was missing bunnies go watch the film yall are egregious 😂

[@sneedsfeedseed-formelryflo2685]

No timestamp 😢

[@pickaside]

They there bro

[@taylor7264]

yall gassin trae young od. buddy has almost no trade value. og has more trade value

[@will3250]

I dont think anyone on this podcast has ever played a lick of sports past middle school. Dehls might’ve played JV. Moran hell no, drew hell naw, and riv be fr

[@chilly2458]

That don’t mean they not cold tho

[@raeshawnn6550]

1:57:27 as a person that was rooting for the clippers, i hated harden in march that statement was not true drew😭

[@rodneyrutherford7099]

Hell yea drew don’t let them disrespect SGA

[@taylor7264]

jamal had 1 bad playoffs but zero great reg szns i got okc over den too

[@ch0keart1st]

lets pray for RJ 🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@noahe4997]

No timestaps?

[@pickaside]

They there bro

[@cdj93267]

Respect B-Jennings man

[@BoeToniProductions]

Jimmy Butler hate again😭 picks PG n he never made a finals n as of lately has done nothing in the playoffs.

[@danieltazele4893]

@Joel Moran, how is Klay Thompson better than Bradley Beal, and how would he be a better fit on Phoenix

[@taj3618]

Beal might be better than Klay but that contract is so disgusting it makes him look worse

[@danieltazele4893]

@@taj3618 that shit is wack idc, I understand he has the worst contract in the league but when talking about them as basketball players, that shit is stupid and brain dead im sorry

[@BookOfChan]

Warriors tank for lottery pick?

[@sunnymhla8845]

Riv don't sell

[@mrdotomuch9323]

Huh

[@betweendalinesnbapodcast3733]

Im ngl PG is not that much better than Kmidd, and Giannis and Dame clear their counterparts to me.

[@taj3618]

PG definitely better than Middleton. I would give it to Giannis but he’s been injured these last 2 playoffs. And I can honestly see Maxey overtaking Dame this year

[@ninoboom2453]

@@taj3618Bucks big three is better then the 6ers big three

[@taj3618]

@@ninoboom2453 they not

[@taj3618]

@@ninoboom2453 literally everybody on the Sixers 3 had a better season last year

[@ninoboom2453]

@@taj3618 nobody in their right mind is picking 76ers big three over Milwaukee guys 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@Blackaquaman25]

No RJ

[@Joe_Ma99]

Luka Kai and Klay is a top 5 trio

[@grumsigrumsi3185]

top 5 all time?

[@Joe_Ma99]

@@grumsigrumsi3185 no, current

[@bigmo3692]

Joel has the worst lists

[@vonnypooh8564]

ya overratin jamal like crazy sure he’s had sum elite playoff series but more times than not they are nun special and his regular szns are underwhelming chet and dub easily can be better next year n i’d say chet is already better

[@taylor7264]

sga scored more efficiently than luka this yr. n sga only averaged a point or two less than luka

[@soopss6640]

That is just false💀 there effiency was damn near the same, and Luka average almost 4 whole more points, that’s a big gap

[@taylor7264]

@@soopss6640 sga - .636 ts luka - .617 ts so sga was objectively n meaningfully more efficient youre right luka scored 4 more points. thats significant. at the same time lukas usage rate is significantly higher. scale sga's usage up and he prob averages the same amount...but also i think you can argue luka hogging the time of possession hurts his team by relegating his teammates to play finisher roles instead of well rounded players. lukas a better playmaker sgas a better defender i think sga n luka are in the same tier but my preference is having a two-way guy. so i got sga over luka i think giannis n jokic (n embiid when he's healthy) are in a tier by themselves then its sga luka tatum in the next tier

[@soopss6640]

@@taylor7264 can’t really use his usage hurts his team excuse when they made the finals💀 he is an elite offensive engineer so of course he is gonna have the ball a lot

[@soopss6640]

@@taylor7264 and it’s definitely jokic Gianni’s and Luka in one tier and the next is like sga and embiid

[@taylor7264]

​@@soopss6640 first of all the usage point was to say that sga would average the same points if he had a higher usage. the time of possession / lukas style of plays is what limits his teammates impact. mavs made the finals but got destoryed bc if it wasnt luka doing his thing it was a kyrie iso. no ball n player movement to maximize the potential of his teammates. thats why indiana w/o haliburton had WAY more success against the celtics defense (in the same scheme w tatum on the center) than the mavs did. indy was scoring over 115 points per 100 possessions and mavs were around 100 points. ofc hes great hes gonna touch the ball a lot. all the best players do. but jokic leads the league in touches per game by far and his usage is less than luka n sga bc he doesnt hold it and he wrks within a system that maximizes every1. his decisions optimize the team not just himself. thats the difference giannis is a 100x better than luka on defense n a more efficient scorer while also being a plus playmaker for teammates its giannis n jokic .......... n then every1 else

[@taylor7264]

giannis > luka

[@taylor7264]

sga > luka

[@coreyhiggins6890]

Giannis can't even take the game winning shot...SGA lost in 6 to a hurt Luka and a mid Kyrie...

[@taylor7264]

@@coreyhiggins6890 if it’s a dunk he can. Would you have said the same thing abt shaq in his prime aka most dominant player of all time? Sga out played Luka. No doubt abt it. Lebron was the best player in every finals he lost. Series result isn’t everything

[@coreyhiggins6890]

@@taylor7264 SGA outplayed a injured Luka and still lost in 6...it's a different day and game of basketball...Shaq played when the league averaged 85 PPG ... congratulations Luka beat the exact same team Giannis played in finals the very next year? Sooo tf I'm missing? Giannis had his championship coach fired and the new guy fired now he stuck with a old ass Dame and Doc Rivers and gonna request a trade next summer....

[@taylor7264]

@@coreyhiggins6890 ?? sga lost bc of his teammates not him. and sga was more efficient scoring in the regular szn when luka was healthy n a much better defender. (even tho lukas injury is kinda bullshit. hes still playing rn lol) giannis has ring luka doesnt. giannis is 1000x better on defense. giannis shot 65%TS luka shot 62%TS also a lot of lukas statistical greatness came in losing basketball. there are all kinds of stats that show he doesnt have the same impact on winning as a guy like jokic or giannis or even sga n tatum

[@salvagaming4678]

Denver over Dallas after they lost KCP for nothing lol. They chocked their ass of against the same Wolves team the Mavs cleaned up in 5 games. They keep harping on Jokic is unstopabble, the best player in the world. So what? At worst Luka is the 2nd or 3rd best player in the world next year and just as unstoppable on offense as Jokic lol. Mavs supporting cast at this point is simply better (assuming health) than the Nuggets. Nuggets have never beaten a 50 win team in the Jokic era. Mavs just beat 3 straight. Nuggets got extremely lucky with their playoff run with a injured and weak West and happened to face the 8th seeded Heat who ran out of steam. One of the weakest runs in the last 10 years.

[@howdareyouexist]

pure cope 😂

[@steven-914]

Joel is never true to the name of the channel #pickaside

[@lTheFreshKingl]

Anthony edwards is the most over rated player in the nba this isane

[@Jaycheong95]

Ok never mind, found the new Nuggets hater, Mr Joel Moran. 7th best trio is CAP

[@sydoesgames]

t-mac was cool but he aint nowhere near dame. sorry, idc what the oldheads say

[@taylor7264]

memphis > dallas next yr

[@coreyhiggins6890]

.... 🦗 🦗 🦗

[@taylor7264]

@@coreyhiggins6890 time will tell my boy

[@Shortballa11]

Y’all big 3s were terrible and more big 2s or big 4s and 5s. 1. Ant, KAT, and Gobert 2. Shai, Chet, JDub 3. Jokic, Jamal, and MPJ 4. Embiid, Maxey, Pg13 5. Tatum, Brown, Jrue (Porsingis too injured)

[@Dixonmcdixon]

😂😂😂always overrating OKC and Wolves every year

[@Shortballa11]

@@Dixonmcdixon making the same mistake i just talked about. I’m talking about big 3s while you talking full teams

[@Dixonmcdixon]

@@Shortballa11 Exactly my point!!!! You chose too 5 based on the teams you believe are top 5 instead of top 5 with best 3 players… No way on planet earth any of the teams you have listed have better big 3s than Mavs..

[@lTheFreshKingl]

Wolves will never win a ring with ant kat rudy

[@Tony.L]

3 dribbles is wack just hoop