3D Platformers Will Never Make a Come Back

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In this video I talk about 3D Platformers, specifically in the triple A market. I dont think they're ever gonna make a return. The last big Triple A attempt at a 3D Platformer was Crash Bandicoot 4: It's About Time and it didn't exactly sell amazingly well soooo...
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@Proxidist 6 ай бұрын

Hey, just wanna make it clear i’m only talking about the Triple A side of the genre.

@INspectre691 6 ай бұрын

idk there's still plenty of triple A 3d platformers, thats literally Nintendos whole thing nowadays lol

@MarioKartSuperCircuit 6 ай бұрын

Nintendo isn't a Triple A developer, is it?

@jesseking1403 6 ай бұрын

Honestly, I can live with that. I don't trust Triple A companies to care or even try to make something that isn't a burning dumpster fire riddled with micro transactions.

@sayak132 6 ай бұрын

@@MarioKartSuperCircuit it is AAA.

@bearofthewest389 6 ай бұрын

Super Mario Odyseey, 3D world Bowser fury, like what are you on about lol? Not loads of games but they still happen and Nintendo ones sell like hotcakes

@masteroflight7296 6 ай бұрын

Spyro reignited trilogy sold 10 million copies. That’s an immense success. MANY games don’t even make a million.

@LuigiFonzar 6 ай бұрын

3D PLATFORMERS WILL MAKE A COMEBACK

@luisoncpp 6 ай бұрын

@@LuigiFonzar they already made the comeback.

@lemon5000-tj6nv 6 ай бұрын

meanwhile its been 6 years since reignited, 4 years since crash 4 and no new spyro game...

@masteroflight7296 6 ай бұрын

@@lemon5000-tj6nv yes. And it’s been 8 years since the last 3D Mario game. What’s your point?

@conor6436 6 ай бұрын

Crash 4 sold poorly

@jepompom455 6 ай бұрын

Mario still exits and... I guess Sonic too.

@DenysMel 6 ай бұрын

@nan0smm646 6 ай бұрын

That's if Sonic gets his shit together and starts making better games

@MrChaoticCrazed 6 ай бұрын

@@nan0smm646 it not even sonics fault its sega :sob:

@lemon5000-tj6nv 6 ай бұрын

2 series arent enough for a genre to stay alive

@jarerarebear1765 6 ай бұрын

Too bad those hundreds of millions of Mario fans don't buy other 3D platformers besides Mario.

@king-of-a-thing 6 ай бұрын

Kirby and the Forgotten Land doesn't get enough love. It's a unique combat based take on the 3D platformer genre with many collectibles and great, complex bosses.

@Glitchyy07 6 ай бұрын

I think it was revealed to be the newest best selling game in the series, or at the very least close to the best selling game (Kirby’s dream land), so there’s that

@pootisman2791 6 ай бұрын

Forgotten land has the single best level design of any 3D platformer in my opinion. It's my favorite switch game for a reason lol.

@Glitchyy07 6 ай бұрын

@@pootisman2791based

@EnigmaticGentleman 6 ай бұрын

8 million copies is pretty loved i think

@connorsmith3282 6 ай бұрын

@@pootisman2791 Absolutely loved it, still not my favorite switch game, but it's up there.

@HauntyHollow 6 ай бұрын

I feel likes there’s something to be said about Toys For Bob also becoming indie developers after cutting ties with Activision. They’re no longer AAA devs, but they have AAA quality if that counts for something

@Zetchzie 6 ай бұрын

Its all that matters. Money or production costs don't mean a thing if you can make it work. Heart and Soul over profit.

@logiclunacy606 5 ай бұрын

They're still partnering with Microsoft to make Spyro 4, so they will have money to some extent but won't be in the clutches of Activision.

@youngdolph8867 6 ай бұрын

I knew very little about Penny's Big Break but knew it had that old school magic at first glance.

@zacharycardon2353 6 ай бұрын

Back then, folks said there were too many 3D platformers. Now no one admits how the market has been flooded up to its nose in FPS for decades, or how AAA gaming is trying to mimic cinima. Non-liniar 3D platformers are why I'm a gamer, and I'll fight for that genre to my dying day!

@evan2902 6 ай бұрын

FPS, rogue-likes and JRPGS really.

@petwisk2012 6 ай бұрын

Not to the big AAA Scene (despiste the fact that 2021 GOTY was ALL Platformers as nominees and One Of them won) but the Indie Scene IS going strong with some Of the BEST 3D Platformers out there Só they don't need to come back, because they're already so back

@toongrowner1 6 ай бұрын

exactly

@obitosenju3768 6 ай бұрын

Eh. They are not that many upcoming interesting ones on the horizon

@_shadiness 3 ай бұрын

So true. We don't need Triple A platformers if we keep getting bangers like Celeste and A Hat In Time to keep the genre alive That being said, platforming, especially in the 3D aspect, has quietly went down as more of a side-genre than something devs have been looking to make use of for motives other than a nod at a nostalgic era.

@drypenny3561 6 ай бұрын

Klonoa was in the opening footage but that's not a 3D platformer, it's just a 2D platformer with you being able to throw into the foreground and background.

@drypenny3561 6 ай бұрын

Also Yooka' Laylee did get a sequel and It was a huge improvement with better controls, camera, and graphics and was way more easy to beat and know where to go but it's actually a 2D platformer so it doesn't count for the topic of this video.

@fobiadepedro 6 ай бұрын

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@gakeeeen 6 ай бұрын

@@fobiadepedro Yer dumb

@cnk9822 6 ай бұрын

I think the problem with 3D platformers is that nowadays considereing how expensive games are getting people only seems to enjoy masive arpgs or sandbox games to justify the value, platformers are very simple in comparison. Not to mention that the target demographic of those games (kids usualy) are more onto mobile games, heck they even find piggy from roblox more iconic than Crash.

@il-ma.le. 6 ай бұрын

They could go for a 3D metroidvania approach, that grants you platforming, a world to explore, and those elements for crafting(don't know if it helps for the rpg feel) could be dropped here and there. Point is this genre doesn't even seem conceivable, the only ones that made it are Control and that SW game I keep forgetting how it's called.

@freddykun897 6 ай бұрын

In my opinion mobile game should deserve high quality 3D platformer, because I think it will be increase their reputation on that platform and had unique experience for them... Take a look with some popular title The little Nightmare that got released for phone back in Desember, it received well appreciation upon its release.

@amandaslough125 6 ай бұрын

@@freddykun897 Sonic Dream Team released recently for iphones

@logiclunacy606 5 ай бұрын

I mean most 3d platformers don't have triple a prices. They're usually priced quite reasonabley, often half or a third of the price of a regular game, even then there's gamepass or ps premium that might help people start off. Also I get that people like to tie an age to platformers because the target audience is often kids but realistically anyone can play and have fun with them.

@logiclunacy606 5 ай бұрын

@@il-ma.le.There are games like that. There's a hidden gem called a knights quest that has a real charm to it, nice world to explore with powers that alllw you to explore further, almost zelda like but the combat is kinda frustrating if you can get past that. There's also Bluefire which is pretty decent 3d metroidvania platformer game.

@Discount_ed 6 ай бұрын

You got no idea how happy i was to see Lunistice mentioned. Its so much fun to speed run and barely anyone talks about how great it is.

@evan2902 6 ай бұрын

I just wish it had more depth for non speed runners. It's cute and I loved the aesthetic but feel like it was more geared towards speed runners- kind of like Toree. Glad I bought it day one anyways and hopefully they'll make something a bit larger in scope in the future.

@funandmorecoolkinghershey9536 6 ай бұрын

No mention of Epic mickey reburshed

@toongrowner1 6 ай бұрын

wish this game would have been released during the ps4 era, or heck, along side mickey epic 2... hope I can save up for a switch this year. As much I wanna play spiderman 2, I totally given up on a ps5 for many reasons

@misternintendoking 6 ай бұрын

You forgot to mention Kirby and the Forgotten Land, Kirby’s first 3D platformer

@goldenguy7470 6 ай бұрын

I feel like AAA companies now adays just want to make fps games cause they think it's better, even though I don't like fps games that much

@luisoncpp 6 ай бұрын

They don't do that many FPSs anymore, I just searched for the biggest games launched in 2023 and I got a list of 24 games: RE4, Dead Space, Like a Dragon: Ishin, Diablo IV, Starfield, Street Fighter 6, FF16, Super Mario Wonder, Dead Island 2, Dredge, Fire Emblem: Engage, Forspoken, Horizon Call of the Mountain, Lies of P, Atomic Heart, Company of Heroes 3, Darkest Dungeon 2, Hogwarts Legacy, Wo Long, Meet Your Maker, Minecraft Legends, Persona 3 Portable, Pikmin 4. From those, only 2 are FPSs(Atomic Heart and Meet Your Maker), but you can increase the count to 4 if you include Starfield and Dead Island 2 (those are RPGs, but you can shoot in first person as well), or you can incrase the count to 6 by including third person shooters (like RE4 and Dead Space). Anyway, most of the big games are not FPSs.

@toongrowner1 6 ай бұрын

certainly was the case during the ps3 are.

@WickedlyChill 6 ай бұрын

Yeah there so clueless, just remake and rehashes

@hbk1221 5 ай бұрын

@@toongrowner1Ratchet And Clank Tools of destruction and A crack in time (my favorite games( came out for that console. I don't know why the franchise is so overlooked..

@idunno_ 6 ай бұрын

Meanwhile HAL is starting to make 3D platformers like Kirby and the Forgotten Land, which quickly became the best selling and one of the highest rated games in the series

@vee1766 5 ай бұрын

To be fair we got games like Ratchet & Clank Rift Appart or Psychonauts 2 in recent years, which are 3D platformers (and more than that really) masterpieces.

@MohammadAlliHasan 6 ай бұрын

Bomb Rush Cyberfunk at it's finest is Team Reptile's 1st awesome 3D platformer inspired by Jet Set Radio Future,Lethal League,Tony Hawk and Sonic Rush.

@maddogmike9982 4 ай бұрын

I grew up with Spyro and am still holding out hope for the new game it deserves. I am currently playing through crash bandicoot for the first time and it's amazing, I'm on the third game right now and it just keeps getting better. Can't wait to try out Crash 4. I 100% Cavern of Dreams recently and the reward you get at the end is AMAZING.

@crownedshyness9656 6 ай бұрын

Despite the genre dying in AAA titles, I’m happy to see indie devs thriving in Steam.

@NikoTheJustOk 6 ай бұрын

Billie bust up: oh just you wait and see

@lemon5000-tj6nv 6 ай бұрын

I wouldn't say 3d platformers are dead, they just dont have the same push as they did during the 5th and 6th gen of consoles Out of all the bigger series the only ones id say get consistent releases are mario, sonic, kirby and maybe crash. The reason I said maybe for crash is because toys for bob went indie and are currently making a parnetship with microsoft so it might be awhile before we see a new crash game again and Spyro is pretty much a crash character atp as its been 6 years since reignited and all they've done with spyro is put him in the newer crash games. Ratchet and LBP are pretty much the only playstation platformers thats are still around as ND and sucker punch have no intentions of bringing back Jak or Sly at all. Rayman is pretty much dead since there hasnt been a new (non mobile) game in over a decade and hes only ever made appearances in other things like that neflix show and mario + rabbids. Phil Spencer says he hears banjo fams but i dont believe him on that one lmao. Also, both Pac-Man World and Pyschonaughts have made combacks recently with repac and psychonaughts 2. Even Spongebob games have made a comeback Plus we've got plenty of indie games too that come out in between all the bigger budget games.

@lemon5000-tj6nv 6 ай бұрын

also comparing the state of 3d platformers now compared to the late 2000s to mid 2010s, id say they had a comeback lol

@VigilanteLulu 2 ай бұрын

Astro Bot: I'm gonna ruin this man's whole career.

@JohnDoe-uf3lj 6 ай бұрын

I’d rather not have the triple A companies make more platformers. Penny’s Big Break Away shows we don’t need AAA for platformers.

@TerrorOfTalos 6 ай бұрын

What we need is more creative risk but of course that doesn't really get all the attention anyway.

@jarerarebear1765 6 ай бұрын

Well... it wouldn't hurt to receive more big budget platformers. Indie devs have creative liberty but limited resources.

@TerrorOfTalos 6 ай бұрын

@@jarerarebear1765 The only way that's happening is through Kickstarter (even then the limit for these projects including all stretch goals is less than 1 million from what I've seen) and if the IP has any nostalgic value. It's pretty much guaranteed that no publisher is going to give tens of millions in budget to a studio for a new IP platformer.

@arteuron Ай бұрын

nothing but positive things to say about your channel I like the pace of your narration great fluidity with your words funny jabs and perfect timing on the comedy and I have a lot of appreciation for your love of games. We are a few generations apart but I'm an 80s kid who never stopped playing. I agree with your entire perspective especially with the high Fidelity graphics video as well oh my God I'm right there with you and the spirit of your videos seem to have a special appeal to me , Keep up the great work awesome content!

@jeysantino 13 күн бұрын

reading this title after beating astro bot.. Edit: Astro Bot is not AAA but I'm praying it will inspire a comeback in the genre.

@wockymocky3691 4 күн бұрын

What do you mean it’s not AAA 😂 ?? I think you’re confused

@thosearepinklemons 15 күн бұрын

I disagree and I think Astrobot is a prime example

@wantedasylum1091 6 ай бұрын

I would pay money to see the alternate timeline where Nintendo bought Rare before Microsoft could, forcing the latter to make a 3D platforming mascot with a car mechanic out of spite.

@crushbeast29 6 ай бұрын

I recognize that death road to canada music. Awesome video, I grew up in the 90s/2000s playing crash and spyro, I love 3D platformers and hope they make a true resurgence. The last new one I played that I enjoyed was a hat in time.

@luisoncpp 6 ай бұрын

You forgot to mention Psychonauts 2, that game is amazing. Maybe the Sponge Bob's ones are also worth mentioning, or Sackboy A Big Adventure, or Kirby and the Forgotten Land Imho 3D Platformers already made the come back, a genre doesn't need to saturate the AAA market in order to be considered active. ...also, even when in the 5th and 6th generations of consoles many of the biggest games were 3D plataformers, they wouldn't be AAA by today's standards. The first Crash Bandicoot had a budget of 1.7 million(for development, the marketing and manufacturing budget probably was higher), that would be an indie by today's standards. The first Psychonauts had a budget of 11.5 millions, much higher but still far below what would be a AAA today. So, in order to evaluate if there was a comeback or not, we should at least consider AA games and not just AAA; and I have the feeling that recently indie 3D platformers are reaching the quality of good 3D platformers from 5th or 6th gen.

@requiem165 6 ай бұрын

pennys big breakaway is pretty cool

@Boymashle 5 ай бұрын

The 6th generation was the golden era of 3D platformers

@sviefty5525 5 ай бұрын

Corn kidz 64.. your welcome (shoutout nitrorad for the recommendation, amazing content too)

@alluringming 4 ай бұрын

Ape escape, Sly cooper, and ratchet and clank were my favorite 3d platformers that i played. I played others and liked them but those three were my favorite an sad we dont see more of them anymore. So happy me and bro got a ps5 recently and playing the new ratchet and clank from 3 years ago and love it. I wish nintendo, sony, and xbox would make more 3d platformers. Some indie ones but not many i like. Kao kangaroo was decent but short one that i liked

@Ey0postal 6 ай бұрын

Omg he knows about the Corn Kids 64😲

@crapbandicute3870 6 ай бұрын

underrated gem

@dinar8749 4 ай бұрын

Such a banger

@hyperturbofox17 6 ай бұрын

1996 : 3D Platformer are future & 2D is dead 2007 : 3D Platformer is dead & 2D made a comeback Now : 2D is the future but 3D is just open-world simulator & no sign of 3D Platformer.

@SuperFocusYT 5 ай бұрын

Psychonauts 2 has a lot of good reviews and I decided to buy it, so I don't think 3d platformers are dead for the time

@Mabra51 2 ай бұрын

Kao the Kangaroo is back ? Talk about a blast from the past.

@Jetbat 6 ай бұрын

this was a very good video! Thank you Proxidist!

@Proxidist 6 ай бұрын

No problem Jetbat!

@ScribbleyYT 6 ай бұрын

That’s where you’re wrong, I might make a 3D Platformer soon

@theelectricprince8231 6 ай бұрын

Jedi Survivor is a 3d platformer and was the 9th best selling game i 2023, one of the most competitive years in gaming.

@LeonardoFrav Ай бұрын

Those types of games are hard to make because it must be hard at this point to create stages without ripping off anything

@DarkturtleX 6 ай бұрын

The reason why they dont make a comeback is cause nowadays we mostly get retro throwbacks instead of an evolution of the old PS2 story driven platformers like Ratchet and Clank, Sly Cooper or Jak and Daxter which were basically the last platformers(in my opinion) which really tried to revolutionize the genre with new content.

@marshallw1902 2 ай бұрын

Sorry, some of what was stated here is iffy. Just because a big company isn't making one, doesn't mean anything. Nintendo is still the company with broadest of appeals as they are still making platformers because most of what they do beats what the AAA companies are working on. This is why indies are filling up the slack and dominating the genre that most of other companies left behind, one could make a AAA and lose millions in lost sales and be disregarded while an Indie can gain more. Also, say what you will about Insomniac, at least they're not Naughty Dog, we'll all take that Marvel "slop" (not a good critique BTW) over whatever the hell they're making over there.

@punkshark91 Сағат бұрын

Astro Bot be like, “hold my controller” 😋

@JT-xn9ei 6 ай бұрын

Pseudoregalia, Blue Fire, Penny's Big Breakaway are more indies worth checking. They're still more effort than AAA commitees' want to get returns for, but as more studios temper their expectations following the pandemic sales effects wearing off, i think more will reconsider as indies keep reigniting the interest as that 20-30 year nostalgia to kick in again

@christiancountryboyilovejesus 6 ай бұрын

Mario, Kirby and The Forgotten Land, Psychonauts, the remake of Pac-World... I wouldn't say there are no big platformers now. God bless, Jesus saves! ❤❤❤

@Gozan 4 ай бұрын

Sonic 2006 is like Sonic Omens. They both don't deserve all the hate that they got.

@shamanessofdestruction7979 6 ай бұрын

I am an blind idealist and, i believe that in like 10-15 years platformers will somehow come back. We (at least I ) have enough of open-worlds and shooters made on repeat.

@temomalek7157 6 ай бұрын

The channel is growing.

@cometcartoons8528 Ай бұрын

I think problem comes from the initial cost of the games compared to how long they take to finish.

@KOTSOSMC2002 3 ай бұрын

Genuinely painful take about Crash post-C3, best stay forgotten, literally can't understand it. All 3 console racing games were fun bangers, the first 2 GameBoy games were bangers, WoC was underwhelming but still OK, Twinsanity is literally the favorite game of half the fanbase, like fr wtf are you even talking about ☠️😭?! Even Bash, that I personally don't like at all, has a positive reputation with many fans. What, we're supposed to say "Crash bad post-C3 lol haha" because Crash Purple on the GBA was bad? Because the Titans games, which were a separate universe trying something new mind you, weren't everyone's cup of tea? Crash Bandicoot never got bad, Crash "4" didn't have to retcon anything, the fact that they did is insulting to longtime fans, at least it should be. And Sonic has been consistently present in the 3D platforming scene and performing really well for most of its presence, in the last 3 years the IP is arguably (objectively if we're talking statistically) at its peak, Sonic performed reputation necromancy and is now back on track. The bad stigma 06 had for so many years is bafflingly unwarranted if you ask me. I'm happy 06 is getting more love than ever and nowadays genuinely has more fans than haters, it's my second favorite mainline game behind Unleashed, it always deserved the love, but anyway that's a conversation for another day anyway. I think Sonic's comeback will be, or at least should be, the blueprint for other franchise's rising back up, they're constantly doing things with Sonic everywhere and doing most things right The genre overall is on an undoubted decline tho, I'm definitely not denying that, I agree with you. More legacy IPs need to return with proper outings and not soft-reboots and dumn revisions ala Crash 4. We need a proper Spyro 7, a proper Sly Cooper 5, a proper Jak & Daxter 4, Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart I thought had the mid-est of mid stories but I enjoyed the levels and combat and would love to see another one soon (maybe a bit more Deadlocked inspired tho lol, liked the darker vibes), Psychonauts 2 was a great return and I want a third one, Sonic and Mario need to continue killing it with bangers like Wonder and Frontiers. Indie okatformers I find very hit or miss but I want to see how they'll improve. The frequency of 3D platforming games is significantly smaller now and so is their grasp on the industry but in terms of quality they're not bad at all in my opinion. We just need some heavy hitters to come back and a healthier/smaller gap between releases and we'll be Gucci.🤙

@Teh69thSpartan 2 ай бұрын

As for Crash, honestly he's half-right. The 2000s Crash games (to me at least) were just average at best and poor at worst.

@Jake-nl3er Күн бұрын

I'm pretty sure they already made their comeback. The genre absolutely died off in the late 2000s. The PS3 and 360 generation only really had a few kids lisenced 3D platformers like Toy Story 3. But the comeback began around 2017 when small indie teams, presumably devs who grew up with them, began making them. It was slow at first, but after the Crash Trilogy proved the genre is still popular, more and more followed, with increasingly bigger budgets. There had to be close to 100 of them available on PS4. Sony must have took note because the PS5 launched in 2020 with two big budgets first party 3D platformers available on day one; Sackboy and Astro's Playroom, with a third one, Ratchet & Clank following a few months later. I know it happened after this video was released, but Astrobot just released, a proper classic style 3D Platformer Collectathon, and it's literally the highest rated game of the year and is selling extremely well. I don't know about the other platforms, but I think Nintendo still has a lot too, and the Mario ones are extremely successful.

@fr0nkky20 6 ай бұрын

when i was a kid i wasn’t in the era of ps1 & 2 but i have very fond memories of them as they were the first consoles i used. Crash bandicoot 2 was my favourite game when i was younger and when the remastered came out it was amazing to be able to enjoy such a nostalgic game on the new gen of consoles

@Wizard_Lizard_ 6 ай бұрын

3D platformers can make a comeback if devs actually listen to fans. We've been asking for things like a Sly Cooper reboot for what feels like 10 years now.

@Clbull118 6 ай бұрын

IIRC The Completionist enjoyed Yooka-Laylee. Also, Spark The Electric Jester 2 & 3, along with Penny's Big Breakaway are great games.

@andrewparke1764 6 ай бұрын

Astro's Playroom was a fantastic free bundle-in, the best PlayStation has ever had.

@shermanthebear963 4 ай бұрын

Crash and Spyro are not dead. It is very clear that another Spyro game is in the works, which will likely be released 2025 at the latest. Just because they cannot pump out a new game every year does not mean they are dead, in fact taking time to make the games and not making too many will keep Spyro alive longer. They don't need to make a new game every year like insomniac did with the original trilogy.

@christopher9727 3 ай бұрын

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@logiclunacy606 5 ай бұрын

Honestly Yukalale never deserved the hate, the game is easily on the higher end of 3d platformers. The only people that criticised it were afraid of having big levels because it's overwhelming for them but the big scope made it better in my opinion. The game to me was like a bite sized Mario odysey, everything was a curiosity and added variety to the game. Every platformer at least gets one mini game a bit off but even so the minekart was really not that bad.

@Sneaky_racoon_sly 6 ай бұрын

toys for bob wants to be an indie studio now and phil spencer said he will bring back banjo kazooie. Also in the insomniac leak there was a new ratchet listed for 2029

@lemon5000-tj6nv 6 ай бұрын

having to wait until 2029 for a new game is crazy 💀

@Sneaky_racoon_sly 6 ай бұрын

@@lemon5000-tj6nv i mean insomniac is the only company that carrys the ps5. they already made 3 games and naughty dog not even 1. also we will get wolverine and venom. new ratchet will be a ps6 game i guess

@mattb6522 6 ай бұрын

Good video! The gaming landscape has changed, so genres that once saturated the market are taking a backseat to other genres. I mean, back in the '90s, beat-em-ups were all the rage, but quietly slowed down as the decade came to a close. However, we did get a number of indie beat-em-ups over the the past couple decades, so it doesn't mean the genre is gone completely. I think the same rings true for 3D platformers. Honestly, A Hat in Time, Crash N. Sane Trilogy, Spyro Reignited, Pac-Man World Re-Pac, Crash 4, and Super Mario Odyssey have scratched my 3D platformer itch over the past several years. There are also plenty of other indie and remasters of traditional 3D platformers, so the genre isn't going anywhere.

@godqwark 2 күн бұрын

I wish insomniac games would focus on ratchet and clank

@AzumarillConGafasBv 5 ай бұрын

Mario be like: U sure m8? PS: I loved the use of DR2C OST

@Devonaxx Ай бұрын

Just so you know... the 3 last Tomb Raider games are also platformers (and Action-adventure + Puzzle) . Ratchet & Clank (ported to steam via playstion) is also a platformer. The Gunk also a platformer from 2022.. Then we have The Mobius Machine, DROS, SCARF, Biped 2, Elon and the Divine Proof, Shady Knight, TRINE 5 and SONIC X SHADOW GENERATIONS... So the genre is hardly dead, dying or NOT making a comeback.. Will it be a super-popular genre? No, never will (or has been) but they are still made and enjoyed.

@MortMort 6 ай бұрын

Hope one day I can make it to this cool indie list!

@Il_Tizio 6 ай бұрын

I was born some years later, during the last years of the 3D Platformer era, but i grow up with ps2 and early ps3 so I the 80&% of my games where 3D platformer, and omg, it feel the difference without them now

@baha6743 6 ай бұрын

It’s quality over quantity, just because we are getting a certain number of triple A 3D platformers every now and then that doesn’t mean the genre is dead, Crash and Spyro aren’t going anywhere, Toy for Bob are already working on Spyro 4 as of now (they haven’t announced it but hinted at it more than once) and we already have Crash Team Rumble (the support for it has officially ended but they just dropped a lot of content for the last batch and now is the perfect time for them to start working on another project, Spyro 4 and Crash 5 are a big possibility for the future), Aspyr released a remastered version of the first 3 classic Tomb Raider games (which are action puzzle solving platformers) not long ago and the games are selling like hot cakes, aand if we ever get Metroid Prime 4 soon (we don’t know how soon though) it is possible that it would gather the success that Metroid Dread and Metroid Prime 1 had (genre for these is a metroidvania action platformers)…what I’m saying is that the genre isn’t going anywhere and definitely not dead

@obitosenju3768 6 ай бұрын

There will be no more spyro or crash. Toys from bob Seperated and went indie

@GreyOatmeal 5 ай бұрын

Pseudoregalia was such a breath of fresh air. Schmoovement is always a joy. Hat in time was great too.

@mooyels9812 6 ай бұрын

Taz Wanted is a PS2 game that's basically banjo kazooie but you play as the Tazmanian Devil, very underrated and fun

@Manic_Panic 6 ай бұрын

Why does no one talk about that game? Not only is it a good licensed game, it's also a solid 3D platformer that went completely under the radar even to this day.

@karinadelma Ай бұрын

Yeah, its the best looney tunes game ever. I play this in my childhood and i complete in pc version.

@ChibbyTibblers 6 ай бұрын

I'm personally happy as long as games like A Hat in Time and Demon Turf keep coming out. The Low Budgets don't seem to be hurting them

@Absolynth 6 ай бұрын

Still holding out hope for Jak4. Even a remaster of the trilogy.

@llamasarus1 6 ай бұрын

Yooka Laylee is a great game; the hate is totally undeserved. A Hat in Time is alright but the levels feel too short and it feels like it needed one more chapter or area. .

@greenheart5334 6 ай бұрын

It had some bugs but who cares?

@nikz000 2 ай бұрын

Platformers are my favorite genre

@cheerful_crop_circle 2 ай бұрын

Is Sonic a platform game too?

@JakeThehedgehog-m1x 19 күн бұрын

@@cheerful_crop_circle speed platformer...you see he's just built different than not your average platformer you know if you wanna you need to have a different mindset... If you wanna try his games I recommend some of his good games sonic colors, generations,unleashed,frontiers,sonic adventure 1,2, sonic mania,sonic mania, sonic superstars,sonic rush,sonic rush adventure etc... he has plenty of other good games give it a try if you want.

@toongrowner1 6 ай бұрын

you sure? Cause the last decade we got quiet a 3D platformer boom. And even if the AAA market moves away from this genre.... let them, we still have a lot of indies and some smaller studios who put a lot of respect and love into this genre. Honestly, in this regard we should be kinda glad about it, imagine a 3D platfomer live service game, uurgh

@sams4054 5 ай бұрын

I did see a tweet saying that Spyro 4 might be in development from Toys For Bob. Yes theyve gone indie but they said theyre gonna do partnerships with Microsoft so i hope its a real leak because if not im genuinely gonna be so mad. I love Crash and Spyro i want them to be on the bigger list of 3D Platformers with Sonic and Mario, i NEED them to suceed so maybe companies see there's more than Mario n Sonic being succesful (I love the both to death but more big hitters would be nice)

@dariuscox3576 6 ай бұрын

It’s a shame. As of 2022, the only triple A series that has been getting 3D Platformers lately are Mario and Sonic. We did get Penny’s Big Breakaway, which is the most recent 3D Platformer to date, but that’s not enough. All I see nowadays that is flooding the market is these big, open world adventure games with RPG elements, high def graphics that destroys your PC, and have 80 hour long campaigns that also comes bundled with a crap ton of DLCs and day 1 patches.

@lemon5000-tj6nv 6 ай бұрын

u forgot pac man world repac, if frontiers is AAA then a bamco game should be counted as one too

@dariuscox3576 6 ай бұрын

@@lemon5000-tj6nv Damn, forgot all about that game. Thanks for reminding me.

@keeferkifflom360 6 ай бұрын

Sonic is struggling too. Since 2016 he’s been struggling to sell 2 million in games. Sonic’s merch and shows are what’s keeping him a float.

@gamalsaad1545 6 ай бұрын

@@keeferkifflom360 frontier sold 2.5 million in its first month

@JakeThehedgehog-m1x 19 күн бұрын

@@keeferkifflom360 i mean...even sonic forces in 2017 despite how mediocre the game was it still sold very well.. face it this guy never leaves.

@sickman4273 10 күн бұрын

astrobot

@yinzplaygaming 4 ай бұрын

I realized that 2d,3d platformers, and metroidvania games are my favorite genre. I'm playing through psychonauts now. I have psychonauts 2, Tomb raider remaster trilogy, rare replay, sly 2 and 3, ratchet and clank 2 and 3. No time to play though

@christopher9727 3 ай бұрын

@Logan_but_not 6 ай бұрын

I would also recommend Pseudoregalia. It's kinda short, but very fun and has a stellar soundtrack.

@andreastefelmoran1794 13 күн бұрын

Corn kidz 64 is so good

@DjimonMoz 6 ай бұрын

I think it's important for us to realize that the industry is MUCH bigger than just what AAA offers. A game doesn't need to be an international phenomenon or sell a bajillion copies to be good, successful or relevant, as the last minute of this video happily proves. If you embrace the rest of the non-AAA side of the industry, you will come out thoroughly satisfied, not just if you like 3D Platformers, but many other niche genres as well. Also, Proxidist, you forgot Pseudoregalia on your last minute list. Thank me later.

@jordankibbe 4 ай бұрын

2024 still no jumping

@marcossanjuancordovilla6879 6 ай бұрын

A Short Hike This is an amazing game you should try. It's only about an hour long to complete, but it's very good

@the.bloodless.one1312 5 ай бұрын

But man, who cares about triple A, look at the state of triple A these days, it’s a fkn JOKE. Indie is where it’s at, regardless the genre. And the indie 3D platformers are just as good as the triple A games back then.

@danipatac7210 6 ай бұрын

Ok I have to say this.... Yooka Laylee got a 2nd chance, they made a semi-sequel called the impossible layer, very Donkey Kong inspired and it was AMAZING! I recommend everyone to try it out!

@drewbear_07 6 ай бұрын

Not to mention the Jak and Daxter Opengoal stuff which is making it available to PC players and is making it audible. Just bring a whole new life to the series

@mariposa6413 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for the recomendations! I played some of them and i enjoyed them do much! I love indie games and i will definetly play some of your recomendations! Thanks for this video ^^

@Aperson-62 6 ай бұрын

I think this is a problem for all platformers in general that aren't Mario and Sonic. Those two are so entrenched in gaming culture that even if anything else comes out and is proclaimed the "greatest 2D or 3D platformer ever" then it's difficult for there to be too much of an audience because there is now a whole audience who never grew up with platformers or they were considered "kiddy" games and therefore passed over no matter how good they are. And yeah especially in the indie space some end up going under the radar. Sometimes for reasons that make sense like Yooka-Laylee and the Impossible Lair being a 2D spin off of a derided game where the new game was far better than the old one, but sometimes it is just because the genre is too niche now or the games are trying to evoke the style of Mario or Sonic. Games like Freedom planet, Spark the Electric Jester, Rollin Rascal and even Penny's Big Breakaway get grinded down to "Sonic but better" in online discussion which makes it difficult for them to stand out no matter how good they might actually be. The only platformer to buck this trend is Pizza Tower which released to huge critical acclaim and is the one time a platformer was universally recognised for being really good.

@shiethegal 6 ай бұрын

The best thing about this video is the Death Road to Canada ost in the background.

@cladladd 6 ай бұрын

in last console generation alone we got Super Mario Odyssey, Bowsers Fury, Crash Bandicoot 4: It's About Time, Crash Bandicoot N. Sane Trilogy, dying light (don't @ me) Ratchet & Clank on ps5 also hat in time. how is it dead. also the Mario 3d all stars collection (its not new but the fact people bought show they want it)

@egateqa1351 5 ай бұрын

“It’s best if they stayed forgotten honestly”. Now you lost a bunch of subscribers who loved Nitro Kart, Twinsanity and Crash of the Titans.

@sammalone7881 5 ай бұрын

Eh, and nothing of value was lost, especially Titans fans.

@INspectre691 6 ай бұрын

your right, they wont, cause they never went away

@motivatedstorm3816 5 ай бұрын

God of War remakes could give the genre a bit more attention if they are ever made Not exactly the biggest platforming game but it does still have it throughout the game

@wolfan20 6 ай бұрын

Mario and Sonic are there, bad practices aside, Sonic is the lowest bar while Mario is the golden standar, what a 3D platformer needs is solid controls, great and colorfun graphics, engagin gameplay and a great story, its no rocket science.

@JechtNH Ай бұрын

I miss 3d collectathon platformers

@8megabytes0 6 ай бұрын

‏‪2:37‬‏ Take that back

@ZeroFlareon 6 ай бұрын

3D Platformers are difficult to get right. It's hard to make platformers fun, challenging, and creative. The core gameplay is simply to run and jump. Super Mario is definitely the king of 3D platformers and there is a reason they wait extensive times to release a new one.

@weed75black35 6 ай бұрын

A platformer (It Takes Two, published by EA) literally won game of the year in 2021. Platformers have seemingly declined only because the amount of ways to innovate aren't as abundant as it used to be. If an avenue to innovate appears they will pursue it. The key is innovation, if you want a renewed interest in platformers, you need to get rid the perception that platformers are retro. You are contributing to that perception by insinuating the genre peaked long ago, so are many of the indie platformers that explicitly invoke the classic games. Frankly, I don't think gameplay that looks like it could've been on the N64 should be seen as the future of the genre. It seems disingenuous to be concerned about the future of the genre when all you do is look at the past.

@triledink 6 ай бұрын

But I heard that Toys for Bob are going independent, which means that they'll have all the freedom making spyro reignited quality original games.

@Glitchyy07 6 ай бұрын

Are they also able to make more crash bandicoot games, or just Spyro?

@triledink 6 ай бұрын

@@Glitchyy07 They were able to make spyro and crash because they got the license from the owners of those games. And now when they're independent they can do their own games, but most likely unless they get a license to make more spyro and crash games, they wont be able to make them.

@Glitchyy07 6 ай бұрын

@@triledink oh i see, I think I read your original comment wrong lol. At least we know the games they make will be quality

@danipatac7210 6 ай бұрын

Crash 4 didn't sell all that well compared with Crash trilogy, the marketing was terrible for it... I'm glad that Toys for Bob became independent and they're still working on a project with Microsoft SOOOOOOOO there's still hope for a new spyro!