3D Printing for INDUSTRIAL with Siemens Additive Manufacturing

[@MakersMuse]

That automatic 3D nesting is just... gorgeous. I used to do that by hand ;.; So many awesome innovations in this vid!

[@3DPrintingNerd]

Crazy, right? I watched that go in person and my mouth hit the floor.

[@jessies9081]

Joel just showed me a 30 minute Siemens commercial.... and I'm not even mad. Hitting the like button.

[@snax_4820]

Exactly what I thought too.

[@xXAfterBiteXx]

I worked for Siemens small gas turbines for over 6 and a half years and around 4 years ago they started playing with the idea of additive manufacturing on burner swirlers (for improved efficiency and easier manufacturing) and on SGT-400 hot end blades (production price and lead time reduction). Until I decided to leave the company, there were several new fancy components cropping up for R&D which I got a glance at first hand, and I just wish I got the chance to see what went on behind closed doors! Sadly, I never got a chance to see this side of things as the Lincoln (UK) branch never had a major role in this kind of thing, it was always in Germany, along with another company they were working with. The hot end blades I saw had very visible layer lines on their surfaces so it's incredible to see the progression they've made since I saw them, and now you can't see them at all! I'd love to see a cross section of the inside with the optimised topology as the original cast single crystal blades had intricate chrome coated cooling air ducts inside. I can't wait to see what developments this technology makes, and just wish I'd been offerered the opportunity to work within it! (I worked as a rotor technician on high speed balance and overspeed, interesting but not quite the same awe level as this!)

[@MyKharli]

I do not think many people realize how far this technology is progressing .

[@jimmyc451]

or how fast

[@trexmidnite]

And what is COM.. CUM is computa edit manufecturing.. lol

[@TheMidnightSmith]

Joel, thank you! I had TINGLES during this whole video! Every new scene I was saying WOW! These people at Siemens are doing EXACTLY what I'd love to do as a career. Combining Civil, Mechanical, and Electrical engineering to create amazing projects and solutions! Working in the petrochemical industry myself, I see where all this could come in to play to make things much more efficient! I mean, 22% more efficiency by topology optimization! That's awesome! Thanks again!

[@3DPrintingNerd]

HEY! That topology optimized part just blew me away. Shapes that are more efficient but weren't able to be manufactured some time ago NOW CAN BE. It's amazing.

[@TheMidnightSmith]

@@3DPrintingNerd it's mind blowing! I keep telling myself, house is step one, step two is an industrial machine that prints metal lol.

[@DougHanchard]

I've used Siemens products for over 30 years in everything from cars to aircraft. From electronics to maintenance items to software. It's an impressive multi-vertical company. Their background in space industrial space is impressive. Don't be surprised if they are one of the first to enter into the high end consumer "manufacturing" product space before the decade is over. Keep close to this company Joel, you're going to learn a lot over the next several years.

[@Digimatic007]

That's a really interesting point you make, Joel -- that before the world had the ability to create 3d printed parts, there were parts that were optimal but could not be manufacturable, but now... they can be! Cool!

[@certified-forklifter]

That "Schlag ein!" was awesome =D

[@3DPrintingNerd]

Want to jump around? Here are the links to the different sections. Ready? GO! 0:39 - Digital Enterprise Portfolio 1:06 - Siemens NX using CAD CAM CAE 2:02 - Fluid Dynamics Simulations and Topology Optimization in SIMCENTER 9:17 - Industrialized Serial Production 12:09 - Simulation of Topology Optimized Parts 14:57 - Powder Bed Laser Path Optimization using Machine Learning 20:43 - Digital Twins for AM Machine Builders 23:07 - AM Facility Planning and Factory Environment Simulation 27:20 - Remember the 1920 Ruston Hornsby Steering Box? 27:42 - Global Additive Manufacturing Network 29:39 - Multi Axis Robotic Printing Solution

[@England91]

At about 25:00 i could just imagtion taking that factory layout then importing it into a game engine for use in vr to get a better feel

[@imagine3DIndia]

@@England91 Hang on, you do not have to import it in game engine for VR experience, that is already part of Siemens NX :) #ingenuityisnx kzbin.info/www/bejne/oaGai2Wgqq2Vhc0

[@jim2386]

NX is the CAD we use at Lexmark to design our laser printers. +5pts Awesome Siemens simulation software +5points Highlighting a laser printer company for a cooling solution +10points Highlighting our #1 competitor.....oooo that’s a minus 10points. ;) Still +10.... wonderful video!

[@bobkarnes823]

I LOVE that virtual Facility Planner. Imagine having a retail chain and being able to lay out a store, then see it, and tweak it, LIVE! I want it so much.

[@VAXHeadroom]

Seems like the could take their flow optimization software and optimize the lay out of the factory too!

[@JohnOCFII]

That was a fantastic video, Joel. At first, I wonder why Siemens would sponsor your trip, but now it is obvious - your approach to the tour really helps pull key information from their well rehearsed engineers/product people in a way that is very genuine. So often, people (even legitimate potential customers) don’t feel like approaching a large booth like that, because they believe all they will here is sales talk. I expect _many_ prospective Siemens customers will watch your video and then be prepared to approach Siemens when the time is right.

[@3DPrintingNerd]

Thanks, John! I truly had the conversation in mind. I was learning at the same time as filming, and the whole industrial side of additive is fascinating!

[@adisharr]

Keep in mind he's also got 410K subscribers which is quite a a lot for the 3D printing industry.

[@EPeltzer]

The software and AI is the real star here. It's not just the additive manufacturing that is revolutionary, but also the kind of computer AI aided design work. Those two things have a synergy and a virtuous circle, where we will be getting designs for things that a human just could hardly begin to imagine. That HP air flow duct - such a simple elbow shape - but the new part is just wild, such a bizarre and unexpected shape. So the AI is now in the design phase and able to analyze the airflow, and iterate different designs to try and optimize. And the racing car part, just giving the CAD program the mounting plates positions and force loads, and telling it to design the brackets that connect the two things. Again, it would take a human years to optimize and come up with that shape, having to build and test iterations to failure. Or even to just design manually and test iterations in a digital environment, would still take ages. And now you don't have to worry about whether or not you can manufacture that optimized shape, because you can make any shape via AM. So yes these salespeople are kind of smarmy but the work is truly amazing.

[@spoonkapeezi3408]

I like these expo and convention videos. It kinda gives me access to things I wouldn't normally get to see or even have knowledge that some of these things exist.

[@3DPrintingNerd]

I really wanted to make this one, because it wasn’t just a peek, it was a deep dive at a huge awesome booth.

[@MrSilas2012]

I 100% agree with you. Thank you Joel! Not many if any people cover this stuff professionally. And you're the perfect person to do it 🤓

[@scrapjack]

This was rad! Ender 3 user here and it's awesome to see what the big versions of my machine can do!

[@shaunmorrissey7313]

That was truly fascinating, what an age we are in.

[@mo5tarelhawary]

For the first time in my life, I wish if there is a possibility to like a video on KZbin many times, not just one time!!!

[@3DPrintingNerd]

Thank you!

[@bruceneely4859]

Tell your friends

[@firefly2472]

you know you can press the like buttone 3 times right ?

[@mo5tarelhawary]

​@@bruceneely4859 Good idea.

[@jamesfoley4254]

Moving around little models of EOS M400-4's which are over 2 million a piece is kind of mind blowing when you consider what it would cost to just buy the equipment in that model manufacturing space. The simulation is missing the water chillers, cover gas supply, and little forklift to move build plates. Those all take up room and the cables/hoses are always in the way. Also, the explosion proof vacuum for cleaning up metal powder. Yes, very fine metal powder can explode or more accurately conflagration. No that isn't from a bean burrito. Thanks for sharing the technology that Siemens is marketing. High five!

[@freemansfreedom8595]

I'd love for Siemens to pull off a "Fusion 360" with their CAD/CAM. It would help people get more invested on Solid Edge/NX. My teachers have both Solidworks and Solid Edge and they prefer Solid Edge by far. Direct modelling looks awesome by what I've seen. But, in my limited experience it has been far easier to find help for Solidworks/Fusion 360 than Solid Edge. Fusion 360 was a really great move for Autodesk, making people used to their software.

[@dextrian]

lots of screaming "HOLY CRAP!!!!!" to myself in this video... That´s actually amazing !!!! and them another amazing thing, and others.... I´m impressed.

[@trexmidnite]

The new technology is called techfucked

[@Cephalon_Shade]

Oh man. I love the software they have that can help people design machines and virtually program them. That software can cut down time on prototyping so much. Really wish there was a small business or hobbyist edition of it. Would be amazing.

[@ahaveland]

I think Blender can do quite a lot - build the machine, kinematic model, set constraints, animate, tweak rinse and repeat until it works virtually, then export the parts as stl files for printing. Of course, it'll take slightly more than 5 of your Earth minutes, but should get there.

[@imagine3DIndia]

#IngenuityisNX Proud to be at Siemens

[@SEANANIGANS32]

Very well produced show, Joel! So much information here and very easily understood. My favourite part is showing/explaining the QC on the microscopic level and the technology to correct those defects. Thank you guys for putting in all this work to show us this revolutionizing technology to the AM world.

[@welbot]

This is great to see they're bringing all these things together in one package! The future is now thanks to science!

[@agepbiz]

This was very interesting! Great video Joel!

[@thomascontreras8245]

Wow no words can describe what should be there and see all the news (even if its 99% industrial stuff). Love the face of Joel while looking at everthing "like a kid in a candy store". Have holydays Joel! and thx again for bringing this aproach to SIEMENS.

[@3DPrintingNerd]

Thanks for watching! The booth tour was incredible and I was like you said a kid in a candy store.

[@RaulEdu33]

25:20 Awesomeness, its like Dungeons and dragons for CNC Facility machinists XD

[@hazonku]

Optimized parts. Nifty, Joel did that in Fusion360, I've done that in Fusion360, big deal. "We can use machine learning to fix materials issue at the structural level while printing and ensure identical parts every time." Okay... we can't do THAT.

[@3DPrintingNerd]

That part blew my mind.

[@bys5036work]

Really loved the combination of fluid dynamic simulation and topology optimization, I do wish they validated the design though with some experiments. Maybe they have, it would just sum up the usefulness of the approach.

[@KnightsWithoutATable]

The simulation they showed for the air mass flow could also be applied to intake and exhaust manifolds for engines.

[@ManWhoLostTooth]

A ton of cool technology crammed into this video.

[@willierants5880]

This is some really cool stuff. The technology showcased here is awesome. If you get an opportunity please do 1 or x videos that focus on specific jobs in the additive manufacturing industry and the skills that are required for each. I think it would be a valuable resource to people, especially your younger audience, helping them focus on the skills and requirements to get into this rapidly growing industry.

[@RedBatteryHead]

Amazing tech. Gotta love SIEMENS. So far ahead in this. Great to make such video.

[@jonbailey6048]

That was really cool, excellent video Joel.

[@CodyThierauf]

The girl at 9:40. You can see her expression change from "are you STILL talking about this?", to "Oh yeah totally me too! :) ", to "oh god more of this..", and finished it off with an eye roll 🤣

[@toddspeck9415]

Just amazing seeing all this new technology. Thx 3d P.N.

[@maeppchen1]

really really awesome video! I just wanted to watch some parts of it, but it was so interesting that i needed to watch it all. Just WOW! I'm excited, what this technology will bring us furthermore

[@GhVost]

I like, how the Siemens's manager translates german "Maschinenbauer" to "machine builders"

[@wladfiggs]

I loved the CFD. If only I had one of these at the office today... TO in inspire doesn’t link to TeamCenter. It would save me several hours of work

[@AndrewAHayes]

Those optimised parts have a very organic form, I can see this eventually becoming integrated into the original CAD design process

[@3DPrintingNerd]

Agreed. They looked like the future.

[@Xailow]

As someone who's finishing up a class in finite element analysis and a degree in mechanical engineering, I really appreciate the flow simulation and topology optimization but I feel they should also have tested the original part with a flow straightener/stator and compared the results. Yes they created a super cool part but I'm pretty sure they could have created a smaller part that performed similarly much quicker

[@shawnolson8222]

That was amazing...... It make me miss the industrial world..

[@brandonmeece7705]

Best show ever!

[@MMuraseofSandvich]

There's an industrial 3D printing shop in my area, they showed us some insane resin jet multimaterial prints a few months ago. Six figure machines, natch.

[@marcnobel3938]

Cool Stuff! Great Video!

[@deepbluezen4751]

Not seen the airflow optimised parts before, v neat

[@haunswurznzopf4319]

This was an awesome Video as usual! So much new and amazing Stuff - the next few years are gonna be interesting

[@RalphDratman]

Joel, you must be doing something right for Siemens to have offered you this premium tour of their show. Good work!

[@alf3071]

Wow cfd optimised shapes so cool

[@dazaspc]

As someone who has been at the end of the line and involved in the building and maintenance of the machines and set up of the cells nothing at all here is new. 25 years ago I used to run fluid dynamic simulations on a Pentium 200 for metal castings. Admittedly it would take a day and a half but once done the playback was available in real time. What they don't say is the highly complex optimized shapes they are using are extremely sensitive to flow and pressure density's. Something as little as altitude extremes would have changed the shape of that cooling duct quite a bit. When forced to use an optimized flow path for a different flow/pressure range the optimization turns into a severe hindrance. As for serial numbers on multiple parts and the optimization of material space that was part of doing Cad Cam in the 80's {well in 2d anyway}. There were software packages that could do this back then in the days of 286 math co processors. CNC machines were capable of multiple serial numbers in a single job and in an ongoing set of cycles. The plant layout software. How do you think plant and machinery has been laid out for the past 100 years. Factors like material handling, machine tool maintenance, operator travel distance and time utilization all done usually with a sheet of paper with paper cutouts and rulers to optimize distance. How do you think Henry Ford and the like laid out production lines. An impressive piece of software would be something that DIDN'T need you to move around the pieces on a board and just needed the access parameters and cycle times put in to produce a useable result. I don't know about 3d printing but looking at that before and after shot it looks to me like the problem was power levels of the laser and temperature variation due to location in the tool path and media heat soak. That sort of thing should be handled by the printer not the program. Thermal compensation for the time in area vs time away by media properties by laser power as a whole as the printer welds in sweeps. No more complex that a GPS selecting the shortest route that avoids certain areas. On a milling center if it was cutting material the optimization would be easy as you could do each part individually for each slice. That machine and tool simulation isn't anything new either that was available back in 03 from Kuka so not exactly new and without working 3d models of the equipment to load took a long time to set up. It would however optimize robot paths and interaction in the cell very well. Siemens make excellent electrical gear and I have retro fitted their CNC, drives and motors and wouldn't hesitate to recommend them to anyone however the sales pitch for their software sounded like Uncle Jedds Bargain used cars on late night TV.

[@fisherthomas817]

Me watching a show "I'm Joel and this is 3d printing nerd" Show when my parents walk in "Let's go see how Semen is managing"

[@VAXHeadroom]

That's some seriously amazing tech. Great interview!

[@mururoa7024]

Those Siemens guys really have their marketing and PR game down.

[@FransWorkshop]

Really enjoyed this, thanks!

[@paxtoncargill4661]

I recently have been trying to learn how to work with generative design and topology optimization. Emphasis on the trying. Not even at the working with any algorithms yet just trying to learn matlab. My mission is to use generative design to make a better pulse jet engine.

[@MyersWoodshop]

goes for the second handshake, plays it off cool...ish :P

[@Oscar-gx2yf]

I caught that too! I cracked up lol

[@life_of_vin]

it's 3 year and I still find this amazing 🤣

[@paullancefield]

Sorry Joel. Apologies for being rude, but that was just a classic comedy moment in your video there. Due to the guys accent you mis-heard him saying "CAM" and asked "and what is CUM?" The way you pronounced it is a classic. And of course we viewers, who understood him the first time, understood he had said CAM and that if you had heard him OK you of course already know what CAM is and had just comedically aped his accent. Brilliant.

[@buzzlindgren8601]

is that CNC-Kitchen-Stefan? Sounds just like him (edit: 23:00 nvm, his name is Nicolas) gr8 vid

[@hony1717]

Its just the german dialect :D

[@adamfilip]

Joel you look very underdressed for this interview :)

[@3DPrintingNerd]

Hahaha I thought so too :)

[@TheBGC1000]

Great video

[@marcbaroudi]

Love the vid! This approach of combining simulation and AI is also used in a game called teardown (still under dev) pretty cool.

[@Christian-cz9bu]

Great video, amazing tech, although the HP fan optimization could have been improved by simple airflow solutions that I learned in high school auto shop 40 years ago. You could see in the reference part they made that the air volume above the fan mount area was much larger than the fan cylinder, simply reducing the diameter of the mating tube would have reduced the dead zone that the expanded air-space created.

[@M3huehue]

Umm can you show any tips for printing acetal, delrin, or pom? Wanna know about that

[@Geeksmithing]

Did they give you a Siemens sample of their 3D printing capabilities?

[@Jar0fMay0]

I know it's juvenile, but that made me laugh my as off.

[@Larkas]

You know what I’d love to see they optimize? A Tesla valve! It would be awesome to see what that machine could do to improve fluid flow in one direction while blocking flow in the other direction.

[@paxtoncargill4661]

Great idea, if you have the time, try learning grasshopper and matlab and try doing something like that yourself. My goal is to make an optimized pulse jet engine.

[@MrSparkums]

Amazing

[@quantumlotus6033]

Awsome!!

[@zimmy1958]

Thanks Joel

[@sanaaw4377]

Thats awesome! I didn't know about any of this even with the fact I was in Siemens booth in formnext this year 2022.. Too disappointed @siemens

[@ericalvarez9345]

My boy joel seemed a little out of his element with these advanced industrial people. He was starting to sound like owen wilson for a sec. wowwwwwww, wowwwww 🤣 awesommmmmme

[@3DPrintingNerd]

Hahaha for sure. I’m really starting to learn a lot about the industrial side and it’s very exciting.

[@valent_t]

Joel this is awesome, but you were too amazed and didn’t ask them then how their machine learning works. Does it postprocess gcode? On which machines does it work?

[@Audio_Simon]

More about that arm at the end of the video.. what material was it printing and for what purpose?!

[@3DPrintingNerd]

We got some footage of that and will have an episode on that in the near future!

[@jesusbermudez1764]

Constraining shapes to follow stress lines allows for optimization of material use. Basically, this is the same as eliminating redundancy. I foresee terrible effects when the actual applications fall, even for brief amounts of time, away from the models brought up by the simulations. We need to be extremely cautious about this.

[@stayathomebob1219]

Has anyone found a source for the Locktite universal bonder in the US. A quick google search didn’t return anything. Thought I’d ask before I dig deeper.

[@alf3071]

How does pre deforming structures work?

[@machoneboard]

Did the modified shape actually straighten the flow?

[@3DPrintingNerd]

It worked and I was surprised and it was awesome.

[@tropcm]

So are they making an fdm printer or not?

[@Stawski_3d]

Thought leadership manager will manage your thought! He knowns all corporate words and PR spells!

[@mainerockflour3462]

Say you have a great idea and you bring it to Sieman's who will surely improve on it and then they will show you the door. Thank you very much.

[@0dium.]

amazing effort to reach two goals : minimal risk, maximal rentability ...

[@BelviGER]

2:03 - as a german, that grammar hurts my brain "Why would trust..." doesn't seem like it should be an english sentence, and it certainly doesn't seem to be a sentence I'd expect to read on the official stand of SIEMENS

[@je8277]

Probably didn't proof read or just missed it, sometimes your brain fills in the blanks when reading but yeah it's missing a "you"

[@suspaul100]

Is it possible to get a cad file of the flow optimised duct??

[@taicr80]

Surely outlet guide vanes behind the fan to straighten the flow would be much more beneficial (like in every axial gas turbine engine) 🤷‍♂️ still cool tho 👍

[@3DPrintingNerd]

I mean, maybe? I dunno. That fluid dynamics simulation is pretty darn cool

[@simonfischer9519]

Tai Johnsen while undoubtedly straightening the flow, conventional guiding vanes would cause more back pressure than the optimized design. If you want so, the four arms leading out of the fan act like guiding vanes-only a little more sophisticated

[@deltacx1059]

5:50 perhaps a stator would work in that spot

[@KetchardMuschup]

3D Printing with Semens 😎.

[@brettyonally5332]

They made our broken muni cars in San Francisco. I hope their printers are better. :P

[@coaltowking]

You use CAM software all the time. That;s what a slicer program is.

[@3DPrintingNerd]

Holy crap. I never thought about it that way.

[@archeebookingagent1909]

I thought it was Stefan talking.. as I missed the intro

[@BeefaloBart]

Facility planner should be combined with VR in order to let users walk thru the facility and move machines on the fly to organize and streamline in real time. Hmm this 3 ton machine, lets put it in my pocket and put it in another spot later but put this 5 ton machine here. Streamline the entire worker flow in the facility and minimize stress on the humans manning those machines.

[@regmigrant]

a little bit scripted by marketing but very interesting stuff, thanks

[@MattMcConaha]

It's not just a "little bit scripted." I got an email from Siemens that they (Siemens) made a video to showcase their products. I expected the link to go to the Siemens youtube page, but I guess they got this guy to "interview" and host the video so that Siemens could get more publicity.

[@3DPrintingNerd]

It’s not scripted. At all. I prepared before we shot, and I’m talking to a bunch of people who have been saying the same thing for four days straight. Yep, this guy. I talked to the people, and people talked to me. If it sounds rehearsed, it is. If you go to a trade show and the people at the booths don’t have proper talking points memorized, they aren’t doing their jobs right. Siemens liked to the video we did and asked if they could circulate it. Why would I say no?

[@regmigrant]

@@3DPrintingNerd Sorry if that came off as critical, I've attended and manned booths at those shows so I know how difficult it is to be 'off the cuff' with every visitor. I'm just saying that compared to your usual style this one felt more formal and given the amount of information conveyed I guess that's impossible to avoid, it was a little jarring, but very interesting to see this different side of you :) Can't fault Siemens for wanting it published and can't fault you for presenting it well.

[@Jar0fMay0]

This is a great vid, but dear God what kind of name is that. Seimens? Really? Oh well, this is a great technology and it's really interesting to see how this tech is evolving.

[@RalphDratman]

I expect aliens from an advanced civilization to use parts shaped like that. But this is human technology? We must be approaching their level.

[@seedmoreuser]

Siemens, Caaaum, fluid dynamics, a guy that quotes "I spend a lot of time with fluids".... I think they need an outsider to point out it's sounding very suspect.

[@fishingmoron7515]

Test out the tarantula pro 2019 next please

[@gf6368]

standard FEA isnt really good for non isotropic materials.

[@officer_baitlyn]

exactly

[@adisharr]

6:35 What this means is that you're going to see a lot of totally bizarre organic looking shit in the future that just works.

[@ChrisBigBad]

That dude sounds like Stefan from CNC Kitchen.

[@3DPrintingNerd]

Well, they both are from Germany :)

[@xpduelist1312]

When I heard the company name I broke down laughing... Best name better than that gas station names Kum and Go. Loved the video

[@jacobrollins37]

When your want to simulate being the god of your future business. 23:06