3F 2 Pass Vertical MIG Weave

Here is a basic tutorial of Short Circuit MIG Welding 3F Vertical up on a T-Joint
Z weave - 17V 200%
Triangle weave 16V 160%
These techniques can be applied to Welding Groove welds and other Fillet Welds
#MIG #Welding #StackingDimes

[@nathanrudd2327]

Of the many welding youtubers I have seen, you have the cleaniest and prettiest mig welding by far

[@relentlesswelding15]

Thanks! I’m not sure about it but I really enjoy it and figured to talk about some tips that have helped me out.

[@nathanrudd2327]

@@relentlesswelding15 your vertical stringer before the weave, is the best I've ever seen someone run mig, it's not crowned up and you're tied in perfectly uniform on the sides. That was beautiful

[@jesselee4226]

Agreed

[@brentjenkinsdesigns]

Comment what we wanna see next? (Not trying to be an asshole here). That being said. More welding content would be awesome. I like your teaching style. You help this old man understand various techniques easily. So, thank xou

[@DazFab_Metalworks]

Likewise I'm on the same weld up hill. The roots a nightmare, I thought the cap would be tougher.

[@jesselee4226]

Ur definitely the best mig guy on here really appreciate u sharing this video

[@relentlesswelding15]

I don’t know about that but I do try. I hope to post more videos soon! Let me know what you’d like to see

[@groguwelding]

Local 597 represent!! Awesome video

[@guyfromgantz7976]

using a piece of the same metal thickness to get even weld legs is a cool tip thx

[@rcb1717]

Hey bud shout out from South Carolina! Just got furloughed after 12 years on the railroad did a little bit of stick welding &4years Army but nothing to code-they shut down our shop(gotta start all over ) so I recently started studying and looking more into welding full-time. Passed “weld test 🤨” after interview & start production welding Monday… but this “weld test”…ended up being a single bead uphill fillet weld so ,3F I believe BUT they would not let me adjust welder settings (I don’t know the test parameters but that seem kinda off and THENNN said I couldn’t hold the trigger 🤔🥴so I basically stacked-tacs, tac welded atw up and settings were 24.5V 365ipm on wire!!!! It was burning hot as 2rats in a sock..passed that somehow & THEN I took a Legite test 1/2G w backing strip and settings were the same ..I passed by the Grace of God on the Tjoint-idk if that’s a legitimate test or some drill or whatever they had me do But settings were RIDICULOUS and HAVENOT seen anything similiar on YT and came across your channel man so new subscriber and best of luck brother keep gittin it! (PS-if you don’t mind I’d be grateful cuz if you wouldn’t mind running a single pass/root uphill with those settings man and lmk what you think !) GOD BLESS YALL 🇺🇸💪

[@relentlesswelding15]

Thank you for subscribing! Congrats on passing the test. That sounds very difficult! Maybe I will give it a try

[@lagwagonQc]

I've been a welder for 22 years and I can tell you have skills young man! keep up the good work...being a good teacher is an art

[@relentlesswelding15]

Thank you! I am always trying to improve. Let me know what you would like to see next

[@jamiehayes5888]

Christmas tree is the best method . 3 stages in one movement .

[@amogussusybaka1484]

Damn you’re good at this I’m taking a welding class and I’ve been stuck on this weld for like a month

[@relentlesswelding15]

Watch the puddle

[@josevalerin3270]

Great vid I’m struggling with this in school right best video as far as details I’ve found so far thank you! I’d like to see a video overview different mig volt and speed settings for different metal sizes, tips and sizes as well.

[@relentlesswelding15]

Good idea! I will see what I can do

[@joshuawatts7129]

I’m in school as well. But I’ve already passed mig stick and tig . Uphill 3f and 3g are tricky but I promise just keep practicing bro than it will just click

[@tudpodcast5377]

I been struggling with this

[@robin3840]

Super helpful! Thank you!

[@Useruserusername790]

Mig is the 1 that I know the least about. All I remember was that it's the hardest to do a root pass on. My shit looked like a pipe that a bunch of tree roots invaded but my fill and cap were good.😂😂

[@ericirby9313]

Very nice Fam, Loved that profile.

[@PaganiniPagani]

Amazing technic brother. The trail behind wire arc is not cold its mean that you feedwire less than usuale to not melt and rund down material. Its called in Europa soft dynamic arc.

[@keithgarland3404]

Well explained and good camera video work. Neat welds.

[@relentlesswelding15]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@timothybailey4356]

I miss welding

[@generalmayhemmcloughlin]

awesome that well done can do it on mma mig is tough

[@curtislathrop]

Off to a welding test soon . Hope my uphill isn’t shit nervous and excited at the same time fuck 😂😅

[@SEXYTECH1000]

BEAUTIFUL WELD BEADS !

[@relentlesswelding15]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@user-vj5hi2it7s]

Amazing process sir!❤❤❤❤❤thanks lot.❤❤❤❤🎉

[@Yashiro-nene_dies]

I would like to know wire size and settings. Awesome work!!!

[@relentlesswelding15]

.035 wire 17v 170-200 inches per minute

[@robertwaltersagbayyumbla7150]

MIL GRACIAS POR TU LINDA LECCION DE COMO SOLDAR TE LO AGRADEZCO DE TODO CORAZON MAESTRO MUCHOS SALUDOS

[@relentlesswelding15]

Estoy feliz de que te guste

[@hinesvillebass6742]

We pulse short circuit on 3 inch hy100 plate at work. No problem ( granted we gotta back gouge it )

[@calebthacker2162]

A weave weld is a weak weld my friend stringers are strength welds

[@relentlesswelding15]

Realistically the weld needs to be tested to be sure. Both can be strong it depends on the welding procedure and the welder

[@holliglover6709]

and my dad weld 23 years ago and my dad taught me how tohod the gun and focuse on welding

[@jca66]

It's alway interesting to see what people are teaching new welders. What is this used for? I've never had to do this in my years as a welder. I've never heard of anyone using solid wire in the field and in a shop setting you can manipulate the piece to be in a 1g position.

[@relentlesswelding15]

Got to start somewhere I guess

[@jca66]

@@relentlesswelding15 I have done open root 3g with solid wire in the shop on 1/2 stiffiners. That was just the root and just to mess around with different processes, an experiment if you will. We filled the rest with dual shield. We all have to start somewhere, no argument here. This exercise seems like a good way to learn weld puddle control. I've noticed my apprentices always make big progress when they learn to watch the puddle.

[@relentlesswelding15]

@@jca66 sounds like a great test! There are a lot of structural steel assemblies and factories that need repair that choose to use MIG

[@jca66]

@@relentlesswelding15 I know I do fabricating and repairs for everything from refineries to hospitals. I've never been asked to use solid wire in the field. In the shop we reposition the pieces to be a flat weld never vertical. That's why I asked when anyone would need to master vertical filet welds using solid wire? Don't get me wrong I agree everyone that wants to weld should learn everything they can. I can only think of one example for this though. Welding pipe. Sometimes the customer wants to minimize spatter inside a pipe so we tig the root. Only once have I used mig on pipe. BTW I'm certified in structural steel and high pressure pipe using multiple processes.

[@relentlesswelding15]

@@jca66 that’s interesting I believe you. When I worked in maintenance it was common to use Solid wire for our fabrication and repairs on presses because that’s what we had. Definitely have a point to what you are saying though

[@manuelgomez3426]

Amazing video I never heard of the D motion until today.I recently did6010 downhill root with uphill fill . The root was the easy part but the uphill fill was a bit difficult. I did end up getting it down but I would like to see what you would do

[@relentlesswelding15]

I have a vertical up 6010 video coming😎

[@shaileshrajput2632]

youtube.com/@s.rwelder9981

[@thomassullivan1676]

The procedure has changed 7018 uphill after a down hill 6010 root

[@ozzyssoldier3892]

This video was extremely helpful , thanx heaps,!

[@relentlesswelding15]

Glad it helped!

[@user-fd1wp5tn4p]

Très bonne méthode de soudage mig mag ❤

[@wiltonmarcos7403]

MIG,e um processo, MAG já e diferente ok

[@Tonyrg1988]

Damn the weld looked better than the drawing

[@sradich1]

Flux core my friend.

[@rezboy327]

Nice job,👊🏽 keep it up.

[@rickd8174]

Not bad. After some practice you can really refine your hand movements and turn up the heat. You can even find that sweet spot where the heat is just right to allow the piece to heat up but not lose the puddle. This trick works good on uphill aluminum also and comes out looking really good.

[@PDaddy0120]

That's tig unless you're talking push pull

[@rickd8174]

@@PDaddy0120 I'm talking about regular mig.

[@relentlesswelding15]

Thanks for the tips!

[@AngryBearDad]

I would have done at least 19v, I like to burn hot, props to that speed though. I usually do 165-180 wirespeed for verticals.

[@relentlesswelding15]

If you want more volatile you are more than welcome this is less about settings and more about technique

[@relentlesswelding15]

Voltage*

[@bkcinematography97]

Look that gap, im welder but my company have old machines there is no way to do vertical from first hand, always i need to tap 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@kangaguswelder]

Ian welder from Indonesian

[@saltydawgcebreros6066]

Dam good techniques!

[@relentlesswelding15]

Thanks I appreciate it!!!

[@oleggolubovych2387]

Very useful video! Thanks

[@Sebastian-Pereiro.]

а сверху вниз сможешь также ??

[@relentlesswelding15]

Not with the same technique. You have to go faster and you will not get as much penetration. You need to test the welds to make sure they are strong enough

[@user-on3wc8yz1j]

Тут главное красота, а не провар, необходимость и компромисс. Скажу проще контент)

[@sudalaimani1653]

Beautiful welding bro

[@relentlesswelding15]

Thanks it’s all practice

[@grimmfortelight1983]

great work, was struggling on vertical t plate, my beads are always too wide.

[@relentlesswelding15]

You can do it!

[@Useruserusername790]

Try circles if you are doing T plate. U's or weaves are more for beveled plate or pipe. The G positions.

[@grimmfortelight1983]

@@Useruserusername790 cool, thanks!

[@Useruserusername790]

@@grimmfortelight1983 welding a gap is a whole different monster. But it just takes practice. When you learn to hear and feel the correct settings on whatever then you got it. That's the whole trick to welding, you just gotta work as comfortable as possible. Fuck up alot at first, everybody does, the mistakes help you get more confidence after you learn to fix them.

[@grimmfortelight1983]

@GenZRuinedTheWorld Thanks for the advice, I just finished my first semester of a structural welding in May with all A's in my intro to stick and MIG classes. Next semester starts in August, after that I'll be doing the 1 year pipe certification. Appreciate the response thoe!

[@freetime2freeminds]

This is really nice

[@soulserrated]

very nice.

[@zooded21]

U ain’t penetrating that with 17 volts 🤣

[@relentlesswelding15]

Voltage doesn’t have much to do with penetration. Wfs is the main influencer of amperage or perceived heat when welding. Voltage is just arc length which gives you potential to make a wider weld.

[@natemartinez4595]

Whys that cap look so built up? Not enough heat?

[@RafaelSilva-wx5uz]

Ficou ótimo sua Solda !perfeita na acendente .. eu soldo acendente na MIG tambm . E nas beiradas e Em emendas ou juntaS ,nas soldagem acesdente deixo a solda penetrar mas

[@wahwahwoi1941]

hello thanks for the video but I have a problem when I balance the weld I go down to weld uphill what is it due to?

[@michaelnoyes4817]

You need to pause longer on the toe of the root run and also don't move up as much to get a tighter bead

[@relentlesswelding15]

Cool

[@perc3136]

Love it!

[@stevegriffin174]

It you were doing a test on plate with a backing strap with mig in the vertical position it will never pass a bend test or a pull test it will break in the weld every time. If you are going to weld vertical with mig use Flux core wire or stick weld with the right type of rod or tig weld . After 40 years of welding for a living , I know what technique to use . I will say this , if that's all you have is mig using 75/25 as a gas shield weld it down hill . Good luck .

[@johnhudson5947]

Also a 40+ year weldor, never seen MIG used for anything other than some pipe roots and light materials you want to look good, as it is a low penetration process. For anything heavy you'd want to use flux-cored wires or 7018 or higher stick.

[@thomassullivan1676]

Yes u need pulse arc..fluxcore...stick for penetration...your cold weld is good down hill...or move your piece flat or horizontal and turn heat up

[@job38four10]

I just try to make shelfs of molten metal, same when I stick welding, thinner than 1/4 down bead is easier...

[@relentlesswelding15]

Good idea

[@joecoxwell917]

Tooo cold partner.

[@jackreacher7939]

Way too cold. You are basically making small horizontal welds. Your puddle needs to be the size of your weld; if your puddle is trailing behind your wire with each movement your settings are too cold. With wire, a pretty weld is not necessarily a sound weld. Short circuit transfer is for sheet metal and/or large gaps.

[@RonnieRios4030]

It's short arc not fluxcore dummy short arc you don't weld hot , asshole. I'm a welder I know.

[@chrismac7447]

Toe not sunken.

[@jackreacher7939]

@@RonnieRios4030 pulling a trigger does not make you a welder. Your comment proves that. Do you even know what short circuit transfer is?

[@shaileshrajput2632]

youtube.com/@s.rwelder9981

[@travisjones9508]

@@jackreacher7939 true, they use Ladybois to weld tube at my job

[@garybrown9719]

A little more Pause and a lot more heat

[@nickmoss1243]

Do one overhead

[@Deipak_Kandel]

Teach me first method bro ,i dont understood

[@rismanrismawan8360]

Show me the voltage

[@TheNairod1978]

Poca candela metales un poquito más

[@holliglover6709]

i weld befor and im 12 years old

[@bluen1]

Is this 1.2 wire size?

[@weldtechsolutions]

Nice work we have also put a video out on this. We managed to get it flat take a peak at it and let me know what you think.

[@laserwelders]

good

[@user-vr9hj2uf6z]

عالی

[@relentlesswelding15]

شكرًا لك

[@hardiayu652]

Very good

[@holliglover6709]

it took a wihle and i weld twise

[@AudiBoyzTV]

spray mig is fine for structural.... no?

[@relentlesswelding15]

Yes it is fine as long as the metal is clean. You just can’t spray weld vertical up or overhead

[@AudiBoyzTV]

@@relentlesswelding15 if i was spray welding vertical, i would be moving downward away from the heat, and if i was spray welding overhead, I would be pushing the mig whip instead of pulling for less burn in because heat is so high. but im still curious, why is it not a good idea to spray weld vertical or overhead?

[@relentlesswelding15]

@@AudiBoyzTV you are right in some applications you can spray vertical down and also spray weld overhead on a fillet weld. For the most part with spray transfer the puddle is so hot and very liquid the weld will drip and fall out. It’s generally limited to flat and horizontal positions and used in production settings to increase production time

[@AudiBoyzTV]

@@relentlesswelding15 thank you for clarifying

[@ingDemurtas]

Can you explain how many passes to do depending on material thickness?

[@relentlesswelding15]

I can make a video on that.

[@tonymichaels5592]

What wire gauge were you using? Was it .035?

[@nkanyisozondi811]

Great stuff Mr. On settings how you master?

[@Useruserusername790]

Each welding machine has a chart to go off of. But you will end up finding what is best for you. That's how welding works. Experiment with different settings and you will learn how to hear and feel if you have it dialed in right.

[@luisfelicio6317]

Boa soldagem e 👏👏👏👍

[@omid86]

👏👏👏👏

[@user-yg3dl5wk3q]

Плотность чешуйки такая себе

[@salmonslayer707]

Why aren't you running NR-232 .072 ? You could get that done in 1 pass

[@fabich_1276]

💯👏

[@genreaper]

Triangular works best imo. Cert 3

[@Ricksanjinez]

Parámetro

[@Then.72]

The spatter is worse than stick welding when vertical weaving with the Mig

[@relentlesswelding15]

It can be

[@williamb.6813]

Maybe if your machine isn't set properly. Turn up the volts and it'll run fine. 20-21 volts

[@Then.72]

@@williamb.6813 we know that the spatter is worse on the stick than Mig no matter what & I know what volts to use as I also know the different transfers of Mig welding

[@adrianduran2465]

What wire diameter are you running

[@relentlesswelding15]

.035

[@jaycobb]

what's your wire size?

[@relentlesswelding15]

.035

[@ahmmadisa41]

❤شكرآ لك

[@rgorgo1408]

how u use to record?

[@anonymouslegion7125]

What is your thickness of your plate

[@relentlesswelding15]

3/8”

[@user-ui4qu7yx6w]

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[@chiefgwopp1004]

1:51

[@Froggies505]

Seems pretty cold.

[@Victor-wz6fv]

If you can't weld any better than that you shouldn't be trying to tell anyone how it's done.

[@Iwontreadyourreply]

17V and 200? Jesus. Vertical flux settings should be 23 and 190.

[@andrespinon3231]

They’re two different processes that weld totally different. Shoot I run my flux vertical uphill at 25.0 and 365

[@relentlesswelding15]

This is not flux core

[@indradeni641]

Bisa anda mengajari saya Siap bekerja di tempat anda

[@curtisjackson3445]

Way too cold bro

[@American_muscle_cars.]

😮😮😮😮

[@piotrwrobel8482]

Masakra ale drabina to wogule nie jest wtopione to chyba pokaz jak nie spawać

[@DazFab_Metalworks]

I'm on this as we speak, the root seems way harder than the cap.

[@jesusjesuss1648]

It's not MIG, is MAG

[@relentlesswelding15]

Technically since I’m using 75/25 gas it is GMAW

[@jesusjesuss1648]

@@relentlesswelding15 for that reason It is called MAG

[@relentlesswelding15]

@@jesusjesuss1648 MIG is metal inert gas. MAG is Metal Active gas for that reason a mixture of inert and active gas is called GMAW

[@jesusjesuss1648]

@@relentlesswelding15 you are wrong. GMAW (Gas Metal Arc Welding )is the name of the process and depending on the type of gas used will be MIG or MAG

[@Useruserusername790]

It's wire welding. Wether it's fluxcored or gas shielded, it's Wire welding. I win because I am greatest. Yay me.

[@Adamstaff]

Co to kurwa za chałka.lepsze spawy robię lewa ręką patrząc jednym okiem

[@mumucamp8928]

ngga masuk

[@fernandomartins9477]

Mal tecnicamente😢

[@SiapaSaya-wt9wo]

. 0:17 .

[@nicbrown4272]

Use stick mate. Also have a go at welding rotten steel. Rubbish trucks

[@vineethchandran1436]

L