Why Consoles are Okay

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I don't disagree that the PC version has more detail. What I do disagree with are the conclusions that he draws from a single screenshot that was used to prove a point. Talk about being taken in by marketing.
PCs will always have the upper hand over consoles. Consoles can say a number and PCs can always add 1. I explain why it doesn't really matter with this generation, why it's not that bad now and why it will only get better as time goes on.
We won't have 4K in this generation unless they choose to do a Playstation 4.5. I suspect it will be several years before even PC users get systems capable of 4K! What we will get from current consoles though is an entertainment system with a long life, guaranteed compatibility with most big releases and decent level graphics, even with potential future gimmicks.
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[@cynicalbrit]

Ground Zeroes is one of the few games that actually runs at a playable 60fps on consoles. Until games start being developed at 60fps instead of the clunky, unresponsive 30, consoles will not be "okay". Graphical fidelity I can take or leave, framerate directly affects the enjoyment of the gameplay. 30 has a much slower response time than 60 and that affects every aspect of every action you take, regardless of genre. Its not so much consoles being underpowered, that's all well and good, it's about developer attitudes, favouring squeezing every last drop of graphical fidelity out of their games at the expense of everything else (in the case of The Order 1886, they pick a ridiculous resolution that no consumer TV is set up to handle, just because it will result in 25% less pixels rendered on the screen. They of course claim its "cinematic", presumably because they think their customers are idiots that will believe anything") Consoles are not the problem. Developers are. The only things I'm playing right now are PC and WiiU, why? Because they both have 60fps games, which for some reason XB1 and PS4 have forgotten how to do.

[@Kdkjdjewerdnxa]

30fps is perfectly playable to me and I'm a pc gamer. 60fps is better but 30fps is fine in most games, racing games and fast paced shooters are the only games that suffer significantly.

[@cynicalbrit]

Ryan I'm not going to disagree with your opinion because well its your opinion and your personal preference cant really be wrong. My experience differs however. Even games like Hearthstone play and feel better at 60fps, the animations and response times are smoother. I've now started playing on 144hz monitors and the difference between 30fps and 144fps is night and day. I will happily play games on whatever format but I will not play 30fps videogames anymore, I'm just too used to 60fps and higher to enjoy them.

[@Tudorgeable]

Ryan I'd agree with you if you're talking about 30fps on crysis level graphics, but let's be honest: current consoles aren't capable of running proper 60 fps titles and it's going to take a while until they do. Like Totalbiscuit said, 60 fps is much more enjoyable even on a tv screen. Come on people! Even zelda ocarina of time (20-25fps) is annoying to play on a gamecube where everything is butter smooth.

[@DenniTheDude]

My thoughts exactly, framerate is so much more significant than graphics, and that's why Wii U is the only console of interest to me at the moment. The other day I tried going back to play some Halo on my Xbox 360, but I just couldn't stand the atrocious framerate, which is a shame because I love the games. It ended up with me not playing them because it literally hurts my eyes, I feel the eye-strain, almost as if it's ripping my eye muscles '~' I guess it doesn't help that I just recently upgraded to a 144Hz monitor for my PC which is even more glorious, but not as significant of a change as 30 to 60 fps.

[@DiamondWelder]

I agree tb. I'm sure many people do as well. I'd just like to wish you a happy thanksgiving (if you celebrate) and I hope you feel better soon. I don't track your health progress because I don't feel it is any of my business, but when I found out through co-optional, I was very sad. You are a powerful voice, seem like a great guy and incredibly funny. Take care of yourself.

[@KaffeGaming]

Why did the console player cross the road? To render the buildings on the other side

[@basicallynotchase2046]

You a genius.

[@seethisth4753]

+CheeseWasTaken Brilliant XD

[@barisunalmis5512]

+CheeseWasTaken ohhohohohohoohohohohoooooooooooooooooooo

[@Dazeencraft]

shots fired

[@Padlock_Steve]

that really should say: insert overused joke here

[@martin-__-]

for me fps is waaaay more inportant than grapics

[@Dezertrat7]

Mr Albo Minesweeper = 90000000000000000

[@drakgrotta]

Only in multiplayer for me on console. I feel like fps is more important on PC

[@Engoneer]

Depends on the game for me I like assasins creed odyssey looking better but call of duty running better

[@jockeyfield1954]

i don't really care, just as long as a curtain graphic setting gets be above 60 fps, i'll use it

[@jonathan130]

Nah graphics are most important. If you want fps buy a $3000 pc

[@markmitrani]

I don't hate people saying consoles are not good, but it's the annoying ones that say consoles are 10 times better.

[@F1rstResponder]

*rarely sees comment about how consoles are better* *sees on every single video how PC is better and people should stop saying consoles are better*

[@onionboy5673]

^^^ same

[@markmitrani]

F1rstResponder Don't you have any friends who play on consoles only? They say consoles are way better and don't give a shit about what you say.

[@F1rstResponder]

Mark Mitrani i do have friends that only play console but they don't give a shit since its just a game

[@markmitrani]

F1rstResponder Haha, what? I didn't say anything about any game- I'm just saying that some console players need to try PC gaming before saying shit about it.

[@watsyurdeal]

Personally, unless it's a solid 60 frames or more, I don't give a shit about graphics. What's the point in having all that detail when the game runs like shit? I think it makes more sense for consoles to move toward a smoother experience rather than an overly gorgeous one.

[@gtPacheko]

watsyurdeal For me it doesn't even need to be 60 FPS neither amazing graphics. As long as it's an enjoyable game that doesn't look like complete shit, then it's good enough for me. Heck, if a game runs at 24 FPS and still manages to play smoothly, then why should we care?

[@davidburke4101]

gustavo17pacheco 24 fps and smoothly are two opposites

[@gtPacheko]

David Burke Nope, it depends on the game.

[@TheGamingStation420]

+gustavo17pacheco Agree, 24fps fits with tetris

[@michconnor2879]

I agree but the reason they do this is because console gamers don't understand that graphics isn't all however they seem to belive that graphics is the only thing that matters because all their lives they've been playing 30-60 fps so when it comes down to it they don't care about fps as long as it isn't like 10

[@Burn1nSun]

I've always been a PC gamer, but all this pcmr shit is complete cancer.

[@seritools]

There are two kinds of people in the PCMR (subreddit): 1) the people that do nothing but bash on consoles (CONSOLES ARE SHIT OMGOMG PCMR) 2) the people that embrace how good/powerful/versatile PCs are (as Phillip said: Consoles are good, PCs are even better)

[@SneakyJoeRu]

With pcmr you can have ppcrn and enjoy.

[@RushFreak]

*Sane people:* "I like to play videogames, whatever machine is affordable and has fun stuff on it, I'm in! I should probably only get a PC If I need to use it for work too." *PCMR:* "Screw your projectedly inferior methods of fun! I'm going to blow $2,000 on a machine that can be used for literally limitless tasks and productivity only to use it to play videogames with a typewriter! AHAHAHAHA I'M SO MUCH BETTER THAN EVERYONE ELSE FOR MY SQUANDER OF RESOURCES!"

[@TheOfficialXifiction]

No its not

[@Renegade322]

***** a) only takes about 700 dollars to run most games on high 60 fps 1080p b) your logic is the exact same as the pcmr people you are judging people for what they do with their money, so because I spent 1.3k on a comp for my favorite hobby and I had the money to do it, that makes me insane according to your logic? Because I wanted the best I could out of my money? People aren't wrong for buying consoles, when I argue with people on here its usually to point out the incorrectness in their statements too many people buy consoles uninformed If you know what you are paying for then buy it But so many people just follow blindly

[@aaaa1111muffin]

For me, it's not even just graphics anymore. I play Skyrim with over 100 mods, I can't do that on console. I play CSGO, which isn't on console. I love using keyboard and mouse, I can't on console. I love basically not having to pay for internet I already have (PS+,XBL), I have to on console. I play at a 90fov (field of view) on all my first person games, either by using commands or mods, I can't do that on console. I like being able to customize my hardware, I can't do that on console. I like being able to change my steam name to whatever I want, with basically no restrictions, I cant do that on console. But that's me. You wanna play console? Go ahead, have fun.

[@nog00dus3rs]

+Very, Insanely, Ridiculously High Fructose Corn Syrup No replies cuz nobody has anything to say LOL

[@danielw.1339]

+Very, Insanely, Ridiculously High Fructose Corn Syrup CSGO is on console and it's WAY better than on PC.

[@nog00dus3rs]

+Daniel W. sure it is

[@xerxony8781]

+Daniel W. It isn't even updated, sorry, get out of your shell of ignorance.

[@aaaa1111muffin]

Daniel W. Yeah and hasn't been updated since release. Which is why nobody plays it on console.

[@vkyle52]

Good video. I'm primarily a PC gamer, but these so-called "PC elitists" and their "PC master race" is making me feel ashamed to be one. -.-

[@putraharith8773]

People needs to stop this whole "PC Master Race" crap,there is no master race,only people who plays games

[@PlastiGomi]

@@putraharith8773 its a joke the pc master race is nothing but a joke made to make people mad

[@BebxOfficial]

Knowing Nvidia, yes, they did hand select those images. Examples of how I know this? You made a video about gameworks and the shady stuff Nvidia does in it. 1060 not having SLI, when SLI 1060's would be cheaper and probably faster than 1080's. The boosted clockspeed of 1070's sent to reviewers. So yeah, I think that they hand selected those images. I love Nvidia, but they need to cut it out.

[@sterlingbirks9101]

i dont think consoles are ok because you have to spend money for a subscription for no god damn reason.

[@samuelolivier3792]

Sterling Birks lol no you don’t

[@rinnegansr5980]

@@samuelolivier3792 online multiplayer

[@samuelolivier3792]

rinnegan sr never mind I made that video back when I used a ps3 and pc, but now I got a Xbox 1 and yeah your right

[@96donov]

review tech usa used to be a solid console fanboy and only played consel till he got some yutube moneyzz

[@kevinball4467]

True, he just did it to make conflict to get more views and more money

[@gamerhobbit]

Finally, someone speaks the truth and speaks constructive. Great video. The more options, the better for the gamers but instead console gamers mock PC gamers, PC gamers humiliate console gamers for nothing. Limited but solid hardware is always challenging for developers and they push their work for being better at every hardware. If they didn't have a ground point, they would have faced endless possibilities and would have used them poorly, resulting in forcing us to buy higher hardware to play even the simplest games.

[@Ghennesph]

Actually, those reflections are nearly free. They're a bit expensive on something like 8800GT, but on any modern GPU, the impact of having them on vs off is negligible, similarly to how ambient occlusion at one point would halve framerates in games. The reason the reflections are so cheap is because they actually refract already drawn pixels to another location based on their depth. This is approximate and messy, but is great for very, incredibly, insanely cheap reflections that add no CPU stress and minimal GPU stress for fairly accurate approximations of the general environment. ReviewTechUSA is a clickbait channel.

[@evilmorpheus]

3kliksphillip more like 3kliksfillet cus ur a burger

[@acidwaffle]

Why would you use a fillet for a burger patty? Just grill it to a slight char on the outside, but still juicy on the inside... With some nice spices... Excuse me, I must go get food.

[@seritools]

acidwaffle because patty doesn't sound close to phillip

[@evilmorpheus]

Dennis Duda ye

[@acidwaffle]

Dennis Duda Indeed, but its all in how you pronounce it.

[@r4microds]

i fricken hate ReviewTechUSA. His videos are annoying bias rants that rage over topics without much to offer the viewer.. Although multiple 3kliksphilip videos show stats/facts that may be incorrect at the time due to a mistake or two he quickly corrects himself later on while providing the audience with corrected information that really does help improve your personal knowledge on a topic (im talking about CS series). I understand they are two very separate channels but the shear attitude and atmosphere 3kliksphilip has just feels a million times better so I can actually enjoy what im watching.

[@Joelsen123]

Consoles are generations behind. When a PS4 graphics power is equal to a GTX 480, it is generations behind, it is a fact.

[@Joelsen123]

3kliksphilip kzbin.info/www/bejne/qoqqXmqKZ7GJesU the consoles uses APU, no dedicated GPU. I meant 480, my fault, but it is far from "next gen". The video is a representation, though, but still gives a really good insight.

[@CptSourcebird]

"GTX 460" Wait, my previous video card? :O

[@cadecollier6047]

The xbox one and ps4 both run on duel nvidia titans so stfu ;)

[@cristian-si1gb]

But the 480 is a good card! Wtf?...

[@Joelsen123]

***** 2013 good when the console was released? NO.

[@OrionFH]

Tesselation is a shader, which can be run on your graphics card. It has the ability to modify the vertex data of your models. By doing this you can make models more detailed or even render a flat plain as a terrain with mountains and more. So the image did not show any tesselation differences between console and pc. At least I couldn‘t spot them.

[@rhithym]

Great ending

[@untitleddocument9299]

+West “Rithm” Young Agreed

[@JKH-BDK]

I think console games will be better when they have graphics options (or at least presets) that give you the option of 30 fps with more pretty, or 60 fps with less pretty.

[@riston7264]

Jk Only one game I’ve played had graphics options, and it is God Of War 4, you can choose, 60 fps for the most part or 30 fps but 4k

[@wantab3648]

They did it in Spider Man Miles Morales

[@Monolitus7]

@@wantab3648 this comment is 7 years old dude

[@wantab3648]

@@Monolitus7 this reply is 9 months old dude

[@Monolitus7]

@@wantab3648 And? whats your point

[@radomiami]

7:36 Can't deny it, seven years later and this phrase is all too true: the differences between a 2017 and a 2022 AAA game are much smaller than those between a 2012 and a 2017 AAA game.

[@Nezedia]

My dear children, don't forgot PC is always master race. ALWAYS.

[@sithmaster1256]

Thanks Gaben my lord

[@MetalMatt2510]

HL 3 confirmed

[@GymmyRhys]

Josh Kappa holy fucking grammar...

[@spacialawareness]

Josh Kappa I'll just go play Red Dead Redemption now...

[@MetalMatt2510]

I was just playing that about an 1 hour ago, one last time before i give my xbox 360 to my nephew.

[@demfrenchfryzboyz8761]

Very good and concise scientific and practical explanation. I myself am a PC gamer, but love consoles too. I'm 32 years old and have been working with GFX and consoles literally since I was able to get my hands on them, and your video completely changed my perspective. Great job.

[@IanPeon]

Whoa dude, you need a bigger channel or network, because you've got to start making money off this kind of analysis. *Whisper Mode On* You're speaking too much truth for anyone to hire you as a correspondent, so you'll have to be a professional rogue from this point out, unless you quit this shit now and start pandering to the corporations, in which case they'll love you.

[@kimeiga]

Honestly Philip, this was quite an admirable video! I was somewhat surprised to see that a tech savvy person like you was truly in tune with the place that consoles hold in our gaming industry. It true that PCs will always be one up, as you had said, but the two platforms will always provide a different feel to the same videogames, by virtue of their control schemes, not so much because of their graphics (at least at this gen). So much respect for you sir! Keep making great videos!

[@MarkyDav]

I think it does come down to the "I can only afford one system" mentality and if people go with PC they go into fanboy mode and try to do everything to dismiss anything else in order to validate their purchase.

[@bryson9s]

No most PC gamers could afford any console they wanted. Want to talk about fanboyism go watch crapgamerreviews no joke that is his channel I used to be part of that community until I saw how misguided everyone in it was they are just trying to justify their purchases by making everything else look bad

[@MCswypR]

I know the PC gaming community is legit so toxic any chance they can get to say PC is superior they will take it and brag about it like crazy. Look I do know PC are clearly better but your paying upwards of $1500 just for slightly better visuals and frame rate? That just sounds like a waste of money to me, consoles are good for what they are, cheap and not bulky gaming devices.

[@bryson9s]

ItzNot SwypR You don't have to spend that much on a PC. I reference you to the potato masher

[@bryson9s]

***** Finally someone who understands its not that you don't need to upgrade a console its that you can't.

[@MildPsychedelic]

I think a big thing that consoles had leverage with back in the day was the way you could just boot up and play what you wanted without going through any install times or updates. I actually still had my PS2 and Gamecube up until recently because I enjoyed just getting back from work to pop in a game, boot it up and get playing. With PC you still always have a little process of booting up the PC, going into Steam, Origin or Uplay, looking for the game you want to play, then sitting through any update patches it might need before you get to play. Now that's fine but when you find the consoles are doing the same thing, but running on inferior hardware to your gaming PC, you just don't find any reason to have one, beyond console exclusive games (funny enough MGSV was the reason I got a PS4 when I thought it was console exclusive).

[@STANNco]

this was a nice video.. now *Clears throat* PC MASTER RACE! ALL HAIL GABEN!!!

[@Marco-cl9pb]

And Kojima

[@STANNco]

fair enough

[@XxJERICHOHOLICxX13]

I like PC better because that's where all the eSports are.

[@spacialawareness]

BOT Nick Are you a fucking idiot?

[@XxJERICHOHOLICxX13]

wowthisnameislongicouldwriteafuckingnoveloutofthisspsace So CoD and Halo are on console. Big fucking deal. Those games have autoaim. Not an eSport in my eye

[@spacialawareness]

BOT Nick So because console have aim assist there not an esport? Consoles have aim assist to make it about equal with pc as the mouse has more accuracy than me peeing sober

[@user-xb6dk4zl7l]

On console do they call it ePotato or potatoSports?

[@XxJERICHOHOLICxX13]

wowthisnameislongicouldwriteafuckingnoveloutofthisspace Autoaim is just holding a player's hand to make the inferior hardware almost at par with PC. Not an eSport

[@TheVoitokas]

Consoles cant get upgrades and that thing is why console is just okay. And consoles cant get greatly better hardware. They have to stick with the 30 fps, controller isnt THAT accurate. I couldn't play without my lovely 144hz monitor. I kinda like consoles, but it's the 30 fps that im pissed about.

[@TheVoitokas]

3kliksphilip Yeah, but not every single one. Yes indeed many of them run 60 fps, but i'm so picky that i only wanna play with pc using my 144hz monitor. :D And playing 3D using nVidia 3d vision :3

[@TheVoitokas]

3kliksphilip But this was really nice vid, have my upvote dude :D

[@Bain0o]

Kontrol Freeks actually give a huge amount of accuracy when using a controller too.

[@TheVoitokas]

Bain0o Yeah, but they are a bit pricey ! But yeah, they are good.

[@peterv367]

The wii can 60 FPS. Moron

[@basbas63]

Am I the only one that doesn't care about graphics beyond what the xbox 360 and ps3 can do? I mean, coming from ps1 and ps2 days the 360 and ps3 were a fresh breath that introduced new game worlds, exciting new stuff and, well, that hasn't been the case ever since. The closest to this is the witcher 3 I guess but then again, look at skyrim.. On pc, yeah it is fine to have the best graphics possible but if I can make a game run great at medium settings and 900p I will do that instead of throwing money against a new graphics card.. And then you have the marketing... A lot of times graphics are a good marketing strategy but isn't telling anything about gameplay. And what about Nintendo their consoles. Many people love the games and it is a great example to show that graphics aren't the most important.

[@Classikh]

You don't have to be "throwing money against a new graphics card" if you're comfortable with sub 1080p and medium settings like you said. You could always buy a budget card like a RX 460 or GTX 1050 Ti for less than half the price of a console or even a stronger card used on eBay or Craigslist for the same price. On PC you can fine tune your settings to get whatever performance you want as long as your hardware is capable. Also if you're worried about saving money a Nintendo console probably isn't a good place to start, atleast not right now. For one you're gonna end up spending $300+ (since Nintendo rarely does price drops) for a console that came out in 2012 and has no 3rd party support, poor online service, low online player counts and not nearly as many games as PC, PS4 or XB 1. Marketing is also a bad point to bring up when talkin about PC gaming cause consoles are worse with it. The whole of 2016 Sony and Microsoft used Buzz words like "4K", "VR", "HDR" and "Teraflops" to try and sell us new consoles. And now that the PS4 Pro is out it's considered a disappointment to a lot of people because of all the fuss that was made. Funny that you brought up "Nintendo consoles" and "marketing" though because Nintendo is the King of launching a platform with some corny marketing gimmicks: (Touch screen, Motion controls, 3D, tablet gaming, and now a Hybrid console). But you're right better graphics aren't the only thing. It's just one of the perks you get from gaming on PC.

[@FunSizedDragon]

Rude PC gamers (the rude ones, had to emphasize because people are dumb) come across like the kind of person who goes and buys a car that has a shit ton a features and then makes fun of other people for not having the same thing. I'm sorry, I don't need those features; I just need a car to get me somewhere, not to pamper me. I'm capable of enjoying games that aren't *gasp* 60fps! *faints*

[@ThePolulos]

+jkunblade but you gotta agree the worst are Rude Console gamers.

[@FunSizedDragon]

***** "No offence, now here's something offensive."

[@calipto4605]

+amaher547 Its a shame about corporate drones :(

[@calipto4605]

***** PC Master Race is a joke dude.

[@calipto4605]

***** Just making sure you know. A lot of peasants, including myself until recently, thought it was a serious thing.

[@kuraiwolf4047]

People saying consoles "hold back gaming" while forgetting that PCs have "graphics settings" that are also used to make console versions of games. No, devs don't make console graphics first and scale up. They make PC graphics first and add settings to automatically scale down when building the console version. Hell, look at Unreal Engine 4. I can go in it right now and tell it to use, say, medium texture quality when compiling the console version while still allowing the PC version to have the ultra setting that will make things look better. You just need to select the thing in the settings menu, duh!

[@talesseed]

The reflections are SSR BTW (screen space reflections)

[@RushFreak]

Thanks for this video, Philip. I wish more people could get it through their skulls that hardware limitations actually help drive innovation and keep things stable. Imagine for one second, a world without hardware limitations, you know what'll happen? People will expect photorealism and complete immersion from every facet and medium in a game, and anything less will be "garbage". (oh wait they already do) Developers won't be able to keep up without expelling exorbitant amounts of money and human resources, because a human being can only create so much, no matter what kind of tools you give them. (oh wait they already can't) Mechanical innovation and gameplay will start to suffer because all of the resources are going towards the art direction and graphical fidelity that people obsess over, but then people will start whining about how the games are shit even though its their own fault for expecting perfection out of everything. (oh... wait...) I'm going to dare to say this, right here, right now. Resolution is not important. Framerate is not important. The only thing that is truly important is wether or not the concepts, fiction, and art that the game has to offer is being conveyed to you or not, and that you are able to act with adequate input to them. I'm not going to waste my time making myself miserable over technicalities and specifications that I've set myself up to be dissapointed by. If I enjoyed games and thought they looked and played great 15 years ago, there sure as hell isn't any reason I can't do it today.

[@TheKyshu]

I can agree with most of what you say, but fraerate is important to me. Of course, when you're a 9-yr old kid you probably couldn't care less whether your Minecraft runs at a slideshow or smoothly, but for me it really causes a break of immersion if the game is any less than 60fps. Of course it depends on how well the game itself is done, but a high and stable framerate really helps, even for non-FPS games.

[@CptSourcebird]

Thanks for shining some light! I have realized that making graphics DO need budget for it.

[@Xeorth]

No, framerate is important. It is the difference between being immersed in a game and frustration. Resolution is important, it provides clarity whether or not they're going for photorealism or cartoon graphics. If you argue that high levels of detail aren't necessary, sure. But there's no reason to defend developers for programming the game poorly to have it not run at 60 frames a second or higher (No fps lock) and have it run at 1080p. That matters so much more than detail. Detail may not matter because art style can compensate for it, but resolution and framerate certainly do. I don't want to play and muddy, choppy games..

[@Primothology]

Framerate is quite important though. I personally could barely finish PS4 games like Bloodborne, Uncharted 4, Nioh, etc. because those games ran only on 30fps, which causes eye strain and headache.

[@CharcharoExplorer]

And how much the Potato Masher obliterates the shitty PS4 with its Gimperon 760 Gimped Kepler card. Poor conslows.

[@couchgamingnews9379]

Alexander Yordanov pc sucks shitty ports shitty hackers and retards

[@maxproskurnia4895]

Alexander Yordanov jesus you where born with cancer.

[@ileryon4019]

rekt

[@vibri_]

Once again, PC kids only care about graphics, rather than memorable games.

[@jvniprbrry]

Vibri what's supposed to mean? We have to many games to choose from?

[@math6844]

But more importantly, who the fuck cares about graphics? If it has good gameplay and a good story, I don't care if it's Farcry 3 or a fucking text-adventure! This insistence on better graphics is hurting the games industry. More time and money on graphics means less on gameplay and story. If all you care about is graphics, here's a tip: Stop playing games, and drive to Wyoming. It has great visuals, never drops a single frame, has no maximum render distance, and it's boring as fuck.

[@Poodz_]

Randy Butternubs /r/outside

[@bingbongstudios225]

+Ciaran Odriscoll Go use an Oculus Rift. And story is the thing that immerses you, consciously or sub-consciously.

[@jalenbunn7114]

If graphics don't matter then buy a 200 dollar pc and run games on low

[@math6844]

Jalen Bunn I bought a 400 hundred dollar pc and run games on low. If I get good FPS and I can tell whats going on I'm fine.

[@jalenbunn7114]

Randy Butternubs then enjoy your pc

[@eviltacoperson]

2:08 I don't think there is anything really wrong with the reflections on the concrete. That is the way damp concrete reflects things in real life, it gets blurry. As for the other reflection, I think it gets "cut off" because there is a puddle of water put there which makes the reflection sharper only in that area. Look at the reflections of the headlights of the car. Where the water is deeper, the reflection is sharper and as it gets shallower the reflection gets more blurry. It's a deliberate design choice rather than the result of a bug. I think it's kind of unwarranted to say that the same problem that Crysis 3 has will exist in this game just from a screenshot. All of the other things you said were good points but I feel this point was a bit misinformed.

[@EkonGamesReal]

7:19 6 years later and we really can say Rich was very wrong

[@thehighlandfox]

I get really pissed of at the people in comment sections like these who argue for ages about why pc is better. It is better thats why it costs so much more. consoles are the cheaper way to game and thats why the quality is reduced. but who cares anyway, you shouldnt bash console players because they have different hardware because its the games they play that count. both play games because they find them fun and they shouldnt need to get a pc to enjoy games. so just stop the hate.

[@blazikem]

John Foy in terms of pricing PC is by far cheaper in the long run, people who play on console are being ripped off for no reason with limited hardware and crappy subscriptions!

[@WasephWastar]

for the same price as a console you can have a good PC, without all the inconveniences of the console

[@JDAWWG04]

Waseph Wastar find me a pc that costs £250 total (because of ps plus) and runs red dead 2

[@Crittek]

I have a hard time agreeing with anything ReviewTech has to say. The guy talks out his ass most of the time its uses click bait on controversial topics to get views. Very rarely have I ever thought "Wow, he's got a good point" I do agree with you though especially on the matter of the mid distance shot there. Hell I have a 680 and I know scenes like that would bog me down. For a $400 console (not sure what they at now) you get hell of a lot of power. And as you said the beauty of consoles comes into optimization. Look at Gears of War 1 vs Gears 3 or Halo 3 vs Halo 4. Worlds difference on the same platform. They COULD have made the consoles cost upwards of $600 and gotten a powerhouse but lets face it nobody would have bought them. They are having issues with sales now imagine if they were higher priced. Most people are happy with okay graphics and would have waited 2 years to upgrade once price drops just like people are even doing now. Just to add, I think graphics are great now. We need to work on AI and physics. Battlefields destruction is over-glorified. Imagine ACUTAL physics not pre-determined animations.

[@fargoththemoonsugarmaniac]

It is not only that most of the console games don't run at 1080p and 60fps (which should be standard on current gen), but also consoles (rather the developers, not the consoles itself) kind of destroy the PC market since PC ports are, most of the time, absolute crap regarding controls, stability and performance, even when they have the same graphics and content (e.g. GTA IV). Of course consoles games are easier to program since they share the same hardware every time, but imo developers are just too lazy to give PC ports the attention they need. Especially in the latest times there are so many examples where developers give their games non-removable fps locks on PC or non-removable mouse acceleration, it's ridiculous. Also it seems developers / publishers don't seem to get the problem of piracy. The more you try to secure your product with unbearable protection software, the more people tend to use illegal copies. It is that simple. Protection software that lets fps drop to half of what it is in an illegal copy (and thus without the protection) or other attempts to secure the game while it lets the game crash is just a pain in the ass for the honest customer. So why struggle with half-baked protection software, always-on-force, region lock and buggy launches when you can have the better package by downloading games illegaly? A good example for non-protected and still quite popular games is the Witcher franchise. And finally: Mods. This is not the problem of the consoles itself, but also rather the developers that want to sell their own shitty DLCs for much money rather than let people create their own content. PCs are, even without support for mods, much easier to mod than consoles and thus don't get the attention from game developers since PC gamers probably wont buy so much unnecessary DLCs if they can create their own content. In my opinion, the gaming "industry" (I hate this term, but it describes pretty good what happens to our games right now) would be much better off without consoles like PS4 and XB1 since they don't offer much that the PC has but only increase problems like piracy, no mods etc. since developers / publishers are driven by earning the most money they can by spoon-feeding their customers. Console players might be used to this treatment, but PC players were much more free back in the days and have to struggle with nearly every game nowadays in some way.

[@actualFix]

Hey, I found your ring...

[@tommyaguirre120]

I don't really give two shits about the tiniest details like the damn reflexions, I just want to sit on my couch and have a good time with a good game and a good controller.

[@LaJin9292]

If it's not 60fps and running on a NATIVE resolution, then they're not fine. And they almost NEVER DO THAT! Choppy & or blurry image is inexcusable. I dont care if the graphics are of the level of PS1, if the image quality is horrendous, it should be eradicated from the industry. THEY chose to pursue all these crazy graphical levels at the cost of treating our eyeballs correctly, now they reap what they sew. Put ANY, literally ANY console player down in front of a PC running a maxed out game from 2006 and they'll tell you how good it feels to look at it, how for once they don't feel like they have to strain their eyes to see what's happening. I've been playing on 7th gen consoles for 4 years and been a console only player before that, and there's fucking zero contest when you have the chance to switch to PC. I do miss some exclusives but I'd never subject myself to that absolute fucking literal eye-rape again. It feels bad. It fucking feels bad to look at it, I can feel my eyes getting tired if I do. They don't know, though. Most console players don't ever get the chance to sit down in front of a good PC and see the difference. They always think we're talking about level of graphics, when in reality it's a performance issue. It looks bad, it feels bad, it needs to be fucking phased out, like CD Players or Cassette Tapes.

[@pilot_light3924]

just up voting for C&C :D

[@AdolfHitler-xp1nx]

i have a gtx 1080 ti FE, and a 6700k 4.6ghz any game, any res, any settings, and it runs better than consoles, and will be better till ps7 lmao

[@misuzu8814]

@@AdolfHitler-xp1nx no one cares if your parents bought you a nice pc

[@AdolfHitler-xp1nx]

nobody cares you are a typical salty 50 IQ console fanboy who made the same joke for the 12,000,000th time :o

[@AdolfHitler-xp1nx]

nobody cares you worked for 4 months to buy a NIB ps2 you had on layaway

[@gamesdonebadly6005]

I dont think I'll ever understand why people cant just enjoy their own stuff without shitting on someone elses

[@TobeasJ]

This Console vs PC war can go on forever. A game is better on PC, all the PC fanboys go oo-rah and screams at the Console Fanboys "Take that you lamers!" Then suddenly, a game that is better on consoles come on and guess what the Console fanboys do? Yeah, they scream at the PC fanboys. And so the cycle goes. There can be no victor and yet people still continue this silly argument. I remember when I grew up, people didn't care if you used a Keyboard or a Nes controller, we were all friends. That time is behind us but I am glad I got to experience it. I was fairly dissapointed though. Got Crysis 2 on PS3 with its painfully average 25 fps, and frrom that moment, I didn't buy a single console game. But yet again, I got Uncharted 2 at the same time, stunning graphics and not a single framedrop, one of the best games I've ever played. .:End of message:.

[@TobeasJ]

***** Uncharted 101, buddy. I mean, have you played those? They are awesome.

[@liamwright8021]

***** the last of us? I never played it, but it was a console exclusive.

[@madsgregersen5627]

Tabe why can't there be a Victor? what's wrong with Victor?

[@ai-bino]

Holy shit! The original Driver! Still haven't gotten past the tutorial.

[@Blaze6108]

The main problem with the "optimization" thing on consoles is that we're going to see far less improvements over time with this gen, because most of what it is capable off is already being harnessed. The PS3 and the X360 had extremely powerful hardware in comparison to high-end PCs of the time; not only that, but their architecture was strange and unusual, which led to the huge jump in graphical quality we saw on the last gen due to optimization alone. Compare this with today's consoles, which are less powerful than mid-to-high range PCs, and have architectures that all developers already know how to work with: first, optimization won't make as much as a difference as it did with last gen. In addition, using anything as the minimum common denominator is just wrong. Games should not be developed for the worst platform and then hapzardly ported over to more powerful ones, nor for the most powerful one and then even more hapzardly nerfed for inferior platforms. Games should be developed in parallel across all platforsm, with last-gen this couldn't be done because of how different the architecture was, but with next gen it should be more than possible. However, there are also many points over which I agree in this video. Finally someone seems to have understood that shiny lens flares and epik graphickz are not all that is important in a game, graphics are so good nowadays that developers should at least try to focus on something else, and perhaps use all that processing power to create some form of unique gameplay. It is also very true that consoles force developers to do proper optimization across all platforms. It is also true that a lot of graphics/framerate stuff is also heavily dependent on the engine used, Source engine games still manage to look good and can run on literally anything, while Planetside 2 does not look _that_ good, especially in some situations, and yet it takes a stupidly powerful processor to make it run, this is because of its crappy Forgelight engine. Lastly, I'd like to inform people who believe that the console-PC debate is just about graphics or FPS that they wrong. It goes way deeper than that, which in my opinion is why putting together a budget gaming rig is still better than buying a console: even past all the graphics and fps frills, the PC has nearly everything going for it, from a healthier developer scene, to much cheaper games, to indie games which at times can be more fun than overhyped "AAA" titles that end up being utter pieces of shit (_cough_ Unity _cough_).

[@Donmegamuffin]

3kliksphilip I wouldn't want to shoot my darling 3kliksphilip down, but you're absolutely wrong when it comes to the price of GPUs going up. Look at the price of a 8800 GTX back in 2006, almost the most powerful card of it's generation and launched at $600 dollars, whereas the GTX 980 released a few months back cost $549 on release, which is lower even BEFORE factoring in price increase due to inflation (~$700 for 8800 GTX in todays money) I love you philip, but today was not a good day for you; You took the risk and I'm really not sure it payed off...

[@Donmegamuffin]

That's true, and they always have been, but that's the price you pay for high end stuff. But let's go back to what you're saying with those examples you gave: -780Ti almost released $ to $ with the 8800GTX (accounting for inflation [Ti@699, 8800@706) Which were both top of their generation card prices. -Titan was released into a class of it's own as a mid way card between the professional cards meant for double precision work and high single precision calculations for games, no other cards in the past had done that, so it would be a pretty unfair comparison to try to make (unless you go down the line of professional cards?) -SLI cards: On release, in 2006, the 7900 GTX X2 was released at $600(now$706) which is the same as the GTX590 in 2011 ($739 with inflation) So really the prices haven't changed much in the high end department.* In the mid range, the 750Ti (which has been as solid little monster of a low-mid range card this year) is comparable to the state 8500 GT was in, in 2007. And (you guessed it) Prices (accounting for inflation) at time of release were $145 and $147 respectively. I'd have to look at more numbers (and CPUs) another time, but it really is time I go to bed... *[The 690 was an odd blip in the dual chip card slots and doesn't fit the trend that was set by the other years thus I discounted it. There was no dualchip 7 series, so this again wasn't helpful, and I'm also unaware what the pricing and setup for AMD/ATI cards are so I can't comment with any authority on the pricing of those.]

[@ThePolistiren]

3kliksphilip " it would not be wise to develop for each platform individually from the ground up" Nintendo, nuff said. If we don't have segregation between platforms, then PC games will suffer, from interface, to multiple loading screens and gimped level design. Why do you think MGS5 doesn't have seamless transitions between outdoors and indoors, but either renders one or the other? And heck, same with Far Cry 4 and its doors. This while *old* PC games like Risen have no such garbage and when attempted to work on consoles, they look like this: www.gamer.ru/system/attached_images/images/000/076/329/original/risen_pc_vs_xbox_360_3_091003115416.jpg www.gamer.ru/system/attached_images/images/000/076/332/original/risen_pc_vs_xbox_360_10_091003115413.jpg

[@Donmegamuffin]

wat

[@Donmegamuffin]

Turtoi Radu Can't tell if troll or an advanced kind of stupid...

[@zzoko7693]

i personally think that it depends, not for everyone true but atleast a little bit, if you have played your whole life on ultra settings 60 fps, you might find low graphics a new experience, of course im not saying that you will think its better but you get to see how others are playing, in the other hand if you have played the whole time low settings 20 fps because your parents couldnt afford a good pc for you finally having your own money and experiencing for the first time ultra settings 60 fps will just feel insane, i was kinda born in a "not so rich family" so my parents couldnt afford a good pc for me, after growing up and saving my own money, i was able to get a good pc with peripherals felt gorgeous, after i installed gta 5 and set all the settings on max i just couldn't belive the smoothness and the textures, i was amazed first time i experienced that, because i had my whole life bad pc now i cant go back to them, atleast for a good amount of time cuz the ultra settings are gorgeous, tho if you were able to play with those settings from the beggining seeing settings that are rather lower than what you were used to might be refreshing as you dont see all those flashy effects popping out of your screen, it depends.....tho not so long ago i purchased my first gaming pc, it feels just insane to be finally able to experience those amazing games on good settings, in my opinion of course.

[@TheAdski98]

06:07 "Consoles aren't behind the curb. Consoles..." Just don't care! Console gamers don't give a damn about graphics, and those who think graphics are more important than gameplay shouldn't be playing video games in the first place!

[@Fizzsama]

+Adski Corsika Console gamers care about graphics almost MORE than PC gamers (find the logic in that) If they didn't we wouldn't see such a violent console war that hinges on the fact that the PS4 has more 1080p games.

[@Fizzsama]

+Adski Corsika Console gamers care about graphics almost MORE than PC gamers (find the logic in that) If they didn't we wouldn't see such a violent console war that hinges on the fact that the PS4 has more 1080p games.

[@TheAdski98]

DFizzlio The PS4 has amazing graphical fidelity because it can. The Xbox One looks like it's trying too hard because Microsoft wanted it to make money. The majority of Sony fans hate Microsoft fans because they can't stand the idiocy behind people defending a company that clearly only want to milk their fans for all the money they're worth because "They care about the fans." even though there's more bullshit in that statement than people who say EA games aren't half DLC. The rest of the console fanbase, as previously stated, just don't care. But then again, that's just my interpretation of the situation. I'd rather not become another fanboy shoving my obviously untrue opinion down people's throats. Also when did discussing video games become discussing politics?

[@jalenbunn7114]

+Adski Corsika frame rate = gameplay

[@homunkoloss6782]

you made a good point, that devs have to get creative bcs of the limited hardware and that benefits everyone :D

[@EddyBravo]

As a PC gamer getting 100s of FPS playing CS:GO, and other games, 30FPS is just fine for the most part (apart from fast paced games you will need the extra frames) but if you are playing for fun/casually and you still moan and cry about it then I just feel you are some entitled PC gamer honestly. Oh yes, because if I don't put the trademark "In my opinion ®" Otherwise I'm obviously telling a bunch of facts you have to agree with, here you go This is only my opinion, please don't cry ®

[@MelonJoose]

Cheers philip. I agree with every point in this video, and particularly I found myself nodding at your statement at 8:33. Hardware differences today aren't a matter of whether the game is playable or not, and very few games are actually pretty enough that I find myself lusting after the higher graphics settings. Personally i can't be assed to buy a ps4 or xbox one but that's because I don't care for the exclusives and have no intentions of paying for online multiplayer. As it stands I play steam games and my Wii U about equally.

[@alluh321]

consoles cant last 10 years hmmm... I have working playstation 1

[@MrWhatzupleutz]

i have a working ps2 on which i still play ace combat zero on occasion xD nothing wrong with that

[@alluh321]

MrWhatzupleutz nice :D

[@someone-wi4xl]

i think he was talking about handling new games i still have my ps1 and 2 :D

[@ZunaZurugi]

alluh321 This year 360 turns 10.

[@gtPacheko]

alluh321 My 2 Super Nintendos and my dad's Atari 2600 still work... My PS1 and 2 also work too :D

[@ashhadnaqavi]

3:26 it also shows that the spotlight was facing away from the rock in the console version, so there would never have been a reflection in the first place kekw

[@francopellegrin4437]

It sucks how consoles will probably never get to 60 fps, mostly because of pricing. If a PS5 comes around, they'll probably make all the games have even better graphics. If they go with 60 fps, how will they market it? "More responsive than the PS4, but the graphics are the same"? I don't think so.

[@TheCommenterHimself]

I hope you know that MGSV is going going to be running at 60 fps in full 1080p with antialiasing on PS4. Because it seems that you're misinformed.

[@francopellegrin4437]

I kind of meant all the games on the platform. There will always be a couple games that run at 60fps all the time, but lots of things won't be able to run at 60 fps. I think what he said in the video about the 60fps mode with graphics turned down would be the way to go. Usually people who don't know a lot about the system, and aren't as hardcore (the majority of owners) don't actually know the difference between 30 and 60 fps. I think metal gear solid is directed at a more hardcore audience than a few other games on the platform, so there would definitely be a large group of people who really wanted 60 fps, so they delivered. I did forget about it when I wrote the other comment though.

[@TheCommenterHimself]

Franco Pellegrin Indubitably! I recede my comment, you explained yourself well.

[@francopellegrin4437]

Thanks. I really hope that having 30fps mode and 60fps mode comes to most games. I would totally go get a PS4 for that.

[@Swimmys]

old gen consoles are 60 fps

[@samderp9525]

The issue with the lens flare, is that the spotlight your mother was talking about, it's pointing in two different places on the images.

[@swagok467]

I don't understand this fight about PC's vs Consoles. What are you trying to prove people? The fact that you don't have a life and waste your time on useless things? I have console and i'm enjoying it. Don't rage on me. I'm just saying my opinion on this DIGITAL WAR.

[@nathank-jw7uv]

Agreed. Heck, I use both pic and console

[@MCLVI]

+Gamingfun Google names suck let me guess you have a pc for minecraft?

[@nathank-jw7uv]

+Melvin Calis Nope. Steam, CsGo, Just Cause, etc. I honestly don't play mc that much, I just play it when I'm bored.

[@itchydez]

TheRudyextreme - You barely gave an opinion and instead attacked others for having opinions and thoughts on the matter. *Sighs*

[@samcooper-drake4732]

this video (a long with all the cool CS:GO physics) is why I am a fan of Klikphilip

[@michaelnjoku51]

He makes a good argument but he says the console has 8 cores and the pc has only 4. The console shares 8 cores between the cpu and the gpu like an APU but the pc has 4 CPU cores and, with a 980, over 2000 cores. So... Ya, that happened

[@AdolfHitler-xp1nx]

so my 6700k + gtx 1080 ti = 1000 consoles? LMAO

[@AdolfHitler-xp1nx]

it sure didn't cost 1000 consoles LMAO shit cost 3400$ canadian all in

[@venturoes1912]

That's not exactly how it works... The gpu cores you are refering to are dedicated CUDA cores which are completely different than the CPU cores. It's like saying the PC only has 8gb of ram while the consoles have over 500gb, see it doesn't make sense.

[@feyakut]

Fuck, I Was Not Expecting To Find My Favourite Game And Series In Ur Video

[@TheRealFrankWizza]

Nvidia godrays use tessellated lighting. Nvidia use s much tessellation as possible because their cards excel at it.

[@od13166]

MGSV Doesnt have that Option

[@TheRealFrankWizza]

RAY M So what? It's an example of a technology using tessellation that AMD including the hardware they are using in consoles can't run. It's an example of a long term standard that consoles, cant even do, because they are already dated. Fortunately developers can easily add these things during the porting process.

[@od13166]

+RAY M he exampling mgsv yeah Farcry 4 had that option but he isnt talking about that game and focus on MGSV On PC And Consoles

[@TheRealFrankWizza]

RAY M Fallout 4 also had that option also. Most games coming out these days use nvidia gameworks. A lot of the options in gameworks use tessellation. Remember when AMD graphics cards had major problems running hairworks in Witcher 3? The solution was AMD added an option to their newest drivers to lower the tessellation so that they could perform on par to NVIDIA.

[@od13166]

D Johnson well im not using most of thems its even looks great without it. jk i have GTX TITAN BLACK

[@bigsauce1116]

To say console are underpowered is dumb af. The hardware inside a console is meant to be affordable to the consumer, that's the point. If I want OP hardware I'll just spend several grand on a PC.

[@neonzombielama]

Mitch Cady Not at all. The point is that on a PC you could get the same hardware for half the price. That's why people view consoles as underpowered, because they give you a lot less for what you pay for.

[@xcotsoh8468]

You can easily build a 400$ PC and run at 60 fps and have better graphics than a console.

[@neonzombielama]

***** I spent £400 on my computer and it runs most modern games at a high fps. Granted that's in pounds, not dollars, and it's been upgraded since, but the point is that a decent gaming PC doesn't cost the world.

[@lawszepie]

***** I'm ok if you count the cost of keyboard and mouse, but lol, monitor? would you count your tv into the cost of console? also, you can go with G3258 and 750ti (the most common low budget build) of course you wont be doing 1080p ultra 60fps but if you tune down the settings a bit, 60fps is definitely achievable thats also the good thing about gaming on PC, you can opt to sacrifice texture quality etc. for better FPS (check this out for the build I'm talking about /watch?v=JxUPJdcChzE)

[@PCGamerUnion]

when you mentioned optimization on consoles i instantly disliked the video. there is no such thing

[@PCGamerUnion]

2kliksphilip consoles are maxed out. This is a fact. Its x86. Its well known. What you are seeing on consoles now is the best they can do. Another fact there for you

[@CrashSeven]

The Raging Gamer Except for living upto the name, can you give us some actual proof/source of this. I mean I think they are pretty maxed out too atm but just to make your arguments stronger, you should deliver some evidence etc.

[@PCGamerUnion]

CrashSeven whatisplaystation4.com/the-truth-about-maxing-out-consoles-like-ps4/ i mean you can google it or search it on youtube this is just on of the top results. Anyway this should be already accepted but here it is. CONSOLES HAVE THE SAME PARTS AS PC. The consoles are not getting the same optimization PC has for years. The only way they can optimize more is by lowering the resolution and fps. And by the way consoles have 4 USABLE cores and not 8 like everyone thinks.

[@hayanoob]

the way consoles look so good and run so well is due to optimizeation, all consoles have extremeley similar hardware meaning the devs can take advantage of this and design the games around that hardware.

[@Mrnentendoman]

­­Coley ­­Kunn Eh, a big reason you saw a huge improvement in fidelity over the years of the previous gen was with the architecture of them. At least specifically for the ps3.

[@027Media]

It's not about consoles being "OK" it's about when they say consoles are better than PC, as a big console user PC is just better.

[@AmishDoinks]

The thing is, there is only one reason to buy a console over a PC; exclusives. You can buy a PC that will outperform any console for cheaper, and you can set it up with the TV and plug in a controller, and there you go you are playing the exact same thing. They aren't underpowered in the way you are thinking of it, maybe it should be said that they are underpowered for the COST, you pay so much for a brand name and a smaller form factor (which is still possible with PC but creates a more heated environment - poorer performance). The problem with consoles is simply the fact that you pay too much for them, they aren't "underpowered" per say, but overpriced. If the Xbone was 1-2 hundred dollars cheaper it would sell way faster and it would probably make more money than it is now... Because for example, the diehard Halo fans like myself will actually feel the price is justified and be willing to part with a FAIR amount of money to get that experience again. Apart from the obvious kinks in the Master Chief Collection because they took the Ubisoft approach of releasing an unfinished game, I would love to get my hands on it, but I'm not willing to spend like $500 on something that has the power of a $300 system and spend $60 on a game with as much content as something I could get for $5 on Steam. The PC gaming experience is cheaper, more powerful, more open-ended, more of an ironed out system and just in every way, better. EDIT: I'm not disagreeing with the video, sometimes consoles are justifiable to purchase but not for me, and I'm leaving a like on the video because I don't feel like its bad content, effort was put in and it deserves attention.

[@yanni6969]

Se7en Animator lol get fucked. Buying second hand is not a reasonable excuse. People want to buy the games new on release date when they are relevant not shitty quality second hand months down the track. Enjoy paying a higher price on games + $50 a year to play online peasant.

[@g4vg4v_]

Se7en Animator I presume you buy things from stores instead of online because you can get ridiculously cheap things online. Like the other day when i went to a store to check out a few things and saw a keyboard that was 80 quid (slang for pounds) and i am currently using a keyboard that is very similar that was 15 quid online. Plus, it came with a mouse. It may not be high end gaming but its something better than a regular desktop keyboard and mouse. I've checked on eBay that some people sell i7 processes for 50 quid. (Which i would have got myself if i had the money). So if you have the know how then you can easily have a decent PC for gaming. (If the prices are much higher for you in Euros then I'm sorry for the BS market.) P.S. I think hes means through sales on steam like the one now when he said he can get games for $5.

[@DrFunkDAT]

Its not fair to use "exclusives" as a reason to get a console though because its subjective. It doesn't matter what exclusives ps4 or xbox have not everyone likes the same games. For me there's no reason why I would want a console, simply because there's no games for it I want, even though both consoles have their fair share of exclusives, none of them are worth it to me. Meanwhile on PC there's plenty of exclusive games that I enjoy that others don't. In the end people are gonna play on whatever they want so there's no point in arguing about it. Also I am glad that you see the pros and cons of both consoles and pcs a lot of people seem to think that if you play on one platform its because your a fanboy. We need more educated consumers like yourself.

[@lukkan99]

Se7en Animator if you look arund you can get parts cheeper and so you culd get a gameing pc for 450 euro. for gameing gpu before cpu (like dont get a cheep gfx card and i7 get insed a good card and a i5 just as a exple)

[@g4vg4v_]

Se7en Animator Never got the consoles because i switched to PC about a year before the next gen came out so i personalty didn't get fucked in the arse.

[@RAZRC0]

Thank you for being a source of objective critique, instead of trying to jump on the hater bandwagon without any actual data. I own a pc, and don't own a console, but seeing this makes me happy.

[@RAZRC0]

Oh, and everyone who has a PC seems to forget that consoles get better graphics throughout their lifespan without getting better hardware. So console games are more about efficiency with the hardware, and PC games are more about power.

[@salmonlegs]

id rather play 30fps 720p with friends than 144hz 4k by myself. friends > graphics

[@salmonlegs]

nice input bro

[@Battleneter]

Well you get herpes with a friend, and that best describes 30fps :P

[@hamzakais1762]

Battleneter LUL

[@Odsej2]

There's barely any games that support 4k yet. And get some fucking freidns on pc...

[@tryhardgamerkid1]

The ignorance of this comment hurts.

[@MasseStartCorpo]

There is one big problem I have with consoles: the AAA devs now do not focus on research in CG because of the consoles, instead, they have to look on how to optimize their games. It is just a waste of time trying to make the console be as good as PCs when there's a clear difference, and if devs were not good at optimizing their games, then consoles would just be left out and forgotten. People shouldn't even try to compare PCs with consoles because consoles are just a source of profits for devs, and the cause of a slow down in realtime CG research, because they're not in any case nearly as good as anything you can do with a mid-range/ high end PC. If ever a PC game was released by an experienced team of AAA devs with a team ofpeople doing CG research, then, there wouldn't be any comparaison to be made with consoles, but that will not happen because you need to make money, and the larger audience you reach, the better.

[@MystycCheez]

Oh god, not ReviewTechUSA... I saw that video in my recommended videos yesterday and I was like, "eh, must be another bad video by him..." Today, I see this and "See here for the video this is in response to", and I'm thinking, oh god, it must be. And it was... Nice video, as always. :)

[@Praylv]

Correct me if i'm wrong. But those water reflections in Crysis 3 are called screen space reflections. I've seen a similar effect in "Fable: The lost chapters" . In Crysis 3 , when you aim your gun on top of the water, you see the reflection all over the river that stretches a mile over. Same story with Fable and that is a 2004 year game.

[@felixruffle3737]

I like how people complain about not having 60 frames on all console games, but will still buy 25 year old consoles even when they could run them on their computer much better.

[@silviuchitic162]

YES YES. I totally agree, and I'm not a console fanboy, I only own a PC. Just play the damn game, unless there are some graphical flaws I don't see what could be the problem with consoles. I'm actually sick of that over use of lens flares, just so annoying. Motion blur and bloom also, I disable those things straight ahead

[@sobekflakmonkey]

You pretty much nailed it, the only issue with consoles though is that the devs will always choose graphics over frames per second, the more they use the console the more graphics they try to cram in at a cost in frame rate, but on the other hand if consoles didn't exist it, the same problems would still arise on PC, look at the first Crysis, graphically intensive game when it came out was super hard to run even on super expensive hardware(later I found out that it was a coding error in the cryengine that never got fixed), so for now, if something is multiplat and gets released on PC chances are you can run it at a decent resolution and framerate which is good, so I don't understand why people cry about it, ultimately, yes, consoles are good and PC's are just better if you want more.

[@GladerDev]

The reason you find these reflections unaccpetable is because SSRR is only a relatively quick approximation of reflections. It's not physically correct but it's a reasonable alternative to static cubemaps everywhere for reflections.

[@TekkGnostic]

Also a lot of the weird reflections could be coming from misuse of textures not meant for physically based shading (or vice versa.) Although overused like a new toy the new lighting shaders should give much nicer results when implemented fully and properly... which probably isn't the case if textures are being designed for the older approximate lighting model and shared across platforms, also unlikely to have the extra texture maps needed for pbr. The weird water reflection looks like really bad interpolation between the grazing and incidence fresnel angles which could probably be easily fixed (or refined given it's supposedly already mimicking physical light.) Typically you'd have a fairly different workflow when producing content for PBR-based engines than the traditional lighting models. Everything uses fresnel angles with specular/gloss/roughness in PBR and needs simplified albedo textures designed to give nice results. You could be using superior shaders but the result would look worse than with the old-gen shaders unless the textures were designed properly. I doubt too many developers use two parallel workflows to produce the same content for separate platforms, most likely reusing the same assets with tweaks or auto-converted to make them just basically work between the two shading paradigms without the extra considerations. To implement next-gen shading well requires quite a bit of extra technical consideration in the entire workflow than producing textures from photos or hand-painting them. Can't just plug-in a new set of shaders and expect everything to look pretty, the entire environment needs to be designed for them. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qKjdYnSCa9V8jsk

[@_jedi_]

Yo Phil, your vids are the shit man. We're building a statue in your honor in America.

[@SuperiFox]

3kliksphilip thank you for being a person on the internet who doesn't make me feel sick but rather gives me some hope you are beautiful

[@breakerboy365]

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[@TimeKiller3000]

I believe the only reason consoles are underpowered, as of this moment in time, is because developers are working way more on games than they do their own consoles.

[@frogguy8703]

consoles are just more compact computers and are more meant as a casual player's "sit down on the couch" type of game system. whereas pc is a more high perfornance and a graphically better experience.

[@EduardoDanielFerreira]

this video has aged like fine wine man if teenager me knew how much of a man child review tech usa was that 760 and an athelon lol

[@cummins24421]

I'm actually glad that the argument has been won so conclusively at this point that it's become not "consoles are better", but "consoles aren't THAT much worse". This, friends, is known as progress.

[@stevenjoiner3556]

What people seem to ignore is the fact that consoles are much cheaper than pcs but can still run games smoothly. Graphics don't make the game, game play makes the game.

[@neonoir__]

0:53 the nostalgia is real

[@charliepritchard6456]

I love your analysis man, this channel has really developed into something unique.

[@DiamondWelder]

I really liked the video. I mainly play on pc. To me, consoles would be better if developers concentrated more on frame rate rather than graphics. This is true for pc devs as well. I get a little bummed out when a game is capped at 60 fps. I would really like to see either uncapped or capped at your monitor refresh rate. 144hz monitors are beautiful, but only if your game can go higher than 60fps. I even played a game where it was capped at 57 fps yesterday.

[@JAnx01]

This generation of consoles is fantastic. No more insane MEMORY limitations like the previous-gen had. 512 MB was pathetic even at the time they were introduced. As a result, we're getting far more open-world games now, which is amazing!

[@stephenclark3230]

Go pick up a copy of Fallout 4 for PS4, go to a location in the game called 'Corvega Assembly Plant' and for maximum effect of my point, begin throwing grenades at the enemies, THEN tell me consoles are almost on par with computers. I normally don't even give a shit about frame rate, I once built a huge ship in Space Engineers on my computer, at 9 fps on average - oh yes! But as much as I love fallout 4 and I do, the slow fps ruins the game substantially. I actually notice what I don't normally notice and for first person shooter game, the frame rate is fucking terrible. I try to open a weapon locker that I've dumped roughly 60% of the weapons I've acquired and collected in game. It takes 5-10 seconds at 0-1 frames per second for me to access it. This simply doesn't happen on a high-end computer and I don't even have a high- end computer, the PS4 is all I've got for that game and for all of its brilliance as a video game, one of its greatest flaws is that you can't barely shoot anything, without missing, either due to everything looking so fucking dark, even during the day and because your frame rate keeps skipping beats, 'causing you to shoot an inch too far in either direction. It pisses me off to no end. And before people tell me I'm just bad at the game. I was pretty good at Fallout 3, New Vegas, Skyrim and fucking Call of Duty. Throw them all into one smelting pot and you've got Fallout 4, so I'm pretty sure it's the game game and the console fucking with me. Things will get better, yes, I certainly hope, however the gap between PS1 and PS2 was massive. The gap between PS2 and PS3 was pretty massive, too. The difference between PS3 and PS4... good, but overall nominal in comparison. Are graphical improvements slowing down? Or is it that video game developers are taking less leaps because it won't sell well on consoles... I'm thinking the latter.

[@ProjectMoff]

Um... That's called bad optimization, its Bethesda.....

[@sayamqazi]

My standards for graphics and fps based on games: Online Shooters:

[@twosidedpolygon7941]

I can't agree more. When looking at modern graphical comparisons, the differences are marginal at best, yet people obsess over them. I think the future of graphics is higher resolutions, frame-rates, and view distance. But hey, who knows? Maybe there is room for improvement and photo-realistic graphics are just on the horizon. We'll have to wait and see I guess. For now just give me 1080p 60FPS and I'm a happy camper.

[@AlmostUselessPenguin]

Over the course of this year I discovered how bad my computer is as I tried to run more demanding games. I used to be happy at playing tf2 at whatever fps I was running it at (I am bad at recognising a bad fps as I am so used to it, although it does mean I'm fine running games at 20-30 fps). The final thing that showed me how bad my computer is was when I tried to play overwatch. In the beta it was ok, I had to have it on the lowest settings to get 20-30 fps, but when the game came out I couldn't find a game that was more than 10. Even for me that was unbearable, it was a complete slideshow. For up to the year I have also been juggling with my memory, trying to keep it with enough space for my existing games to update. I'm currently at 30GBs left. I've been lower, about 20, but I can't do this forever. I'm getting a new one soon.

[@Odsej2]

Update drivers, stop background processes,remove old files, clean your PC.

[@bastioncsgo8588]

This is why I celebrate when you upload videos.

[@Tenosyn]

I basically a pure PC gamer and the things I only really care about are the frame rate, resolution and cost. PC wins all 3 with flying colors so that's why I use it. I do agree, the difference between the new consoles and PC's is much much smaller than it was with the previous generation but that's just the way games developed, it plateaus out at a point. I don't really see games getting that much better beyond refining what is already there unless VR suddenly explodes in popularity.

[@olebrian7019]

People have to stop whining about how bad consoles are compared to PC. Consoles are for more casual gaming, PCs are for competitive gaming. Almost all of Bethesda's games are casual games and they run smoothly on console without any drops in frame rate. I play games like GTA, Fallout, The Elder Scrolls, Assassin's Creed, NBA2K. All of those games and many more have I played on console without feeling like I needed that extra bit of graphical support. Do you know why? Because they are casual games. It's with those type of games that you can just sit down in your couch or bed, plug in a game and play it without having to think about "is my pc good enough to run this game at max settings?". If you wish to play competetive games like MOBAs, MMORPGs or FPS games, then go and play on a PC. Don't play a game that requires insane reaction times on console, they're not designed for that. It's your own fault if you buy those type of games for console. - A guy that plays both Playstation and 'da PC mastah race'

[@purplelops]

If consoles didn't exist, most AAA wouldn't look as good on pc as they do now. Remember, the developers make a ton of money from people buying copies of their games for the consoles.

[@benbit]

3 years later: Consoles are outdated and had to be replaced by slightly better versions

[@benjaminzarkhin1293]

...same with PC hardware.

[@benbit]

Benny Zurkhin PC Hardware from 3 years ago is still pretty good today

[@benjaminzarkhin1293]

Ben Binkel "Pretty" good, but not really ideal and relevant. Considering that all major - new titles come out instantly on consoles does compete with superior advanced PC hardware, whilst consoles have the same hardware for a while.

[@benbit]

Benny Zurkhin The 980 and 980ti came out about 3 years ago, they can both easily perform over 60 fps on actual native 4k. No console can currently achieve that. They will be relevant for several years, the high end Nvidia cards usually last like 6 or 7 years. I still had an 780ti till last month and had no problems with modern games at 1080p.

[@rayyapen8597]

6 yrs later, xbox series x and ps5 are announced

[@MetalMatt2510]

is there ever a video where reviewtechusa doesnt moan ?

[@TekkGnostic]

For me the graphical differences are the least problem about console ports (PC will always look better.) The control scheme is probably by far my biggest peeve about a ported game, makes or breaks it for me. When you're playing a ported game and can tell the game was designed to utilize a specific game controller whatsoever, that's a failed port. In the bigger picture over the years more and more games are primarily targeted for specific systems with limited control schemes with mouse and keyboard being added as an after-thought. It kind of marked the transition from games being fully interactive (eg: half-life series) to simply watching a choose-your-own-adventure of pre-rendered cinematics (most console games) by pressing (x) repeatedly at key moments. I'd imagine playing something like half-life one would have been a ridiculously bad game if when arriving at some new obstacle, a little dialogue popped-up telling you to press key (x) to "'figure out everything for me and do it in a single button press while I sit and watch."

[@EndlessShots]

You are smart, when it comes to video games, you are very intelligent. I 'm glad, I am a subscriber :)

[@DenniTheDude]

I also prefer stylized graphics over technically impressive graphics. I see it as a sort of quality over quantity scenario. This is why I think CS:GO is one of the best looking games with somewhat "realistic" graphics. A lot of CS:GO maps tend to focus on fewer, well-placed, non-distracting objects for scenery instead of just spamming the whole map with hundreds of objects and effects. Important to note, I've never tried resolutions over 1080p, and to be honest, "hyper realistic" games look terrible in only 1080p in my opinion, foliage is so cluttery even with 16x AA and it just becomes distracting and doesn't add anything valuable to the experience if you ask me. I always prefer artstyle over technicalities, that's why games like Zelda Wind Waker hold up so well, and that's only on the Gamecube, and the HD remake on Wii U looks amazing too. kzbin.info/www/bejne/enqsY5KPbd-bfK8 Hell, if you run Super Mario Galaxy in 1080p on a PC it becomes one of the best looking games I've ever seen too. kzbin.info/www/bejne/o5ewlmuEn5eojbc P.S: Screw lensflares :P