ALL NEW 2023 Gen2 CFMoto ZForce 800 Trail : In Depth Buyers Guide : New VS Old

[@CaptBritanica]

One of the best comparisons I've ever seen on youtube. Such a great job! I really appreciate you highlighting the servicing/maintenance differences. In fact, how much easier it is to service is what made me decide to get the new Gen2 vs a used 2022.

[@FoolWithACamera0]

Very practical and thorough review. Especially like your discussion of the maintenance on the vehicles. TY for doing this.

[@3SeasRecreation]

Our pleasure! Thanks for watching! Enjoy The Ride, Jared

[@georgekopsias9159]

You have shared lots of great information. Thank you.

[@3SeasRecreation]

Glad it was helpful! Enjoy The Ride, Jared

[@michaelshea5622]

Thank you. Most of the other channels all they want to talk about are clutch modifications or tire swapping or talk about a different model all together but hardly mention what I need. I have a 2022 ZForce 800 Trail and I love it. Never knew about the far left cubby hole inside. Great video.

[@3SeasRecreation]

I appreciate that! Thanks for taking the time to check out our video. Enjoy The Ride, Jared

[@chadsteele1]

This was one of the best side by side comparisons . Good job.

[@RydinginStyle72]

Thank you very much for explaining this. I had a hard time figuring out what's the difference.

[@3SeasRecreation]

Thanks for watching! We will be at the 2025 CFMoto dealer meeting next week doing similar videos on the new machines!

[@nickmcnellis3937]

Nice side by side review, very informative. Thank you.

[@3SeasRecreation]

Thanks for the positive feedback! Enjoy the ride, Jared

[@outdoorwonderlust]

50 in rule applies to the wheel base width. Fender that makes it a bit wider doesn't have to be removed to meet the restrictions.

[@rjmoose8918]

What a GREAT comparison!! I have a 2022 zforce 800 and came to KZbin to see compassion videos. Lol Your video is by far the most informative I've seen! Can't wait for the 950 video! I live in the western NY area and might have to stop in and say hi!

[@3SeasRecreation]

So glad you found our channel! Enjoy the ride and YES you need to stop in! Thanks, Jared

[@MatthewPautzke]

Great analysis! Wonderful delivery of info and nice camera work from your assistant. I'll be watching for more of your videos.

[@3SeasRecreation]

Excited to hear you enjoyed our video! My little man Braxxton is getting the hang of the camera and it makes things much easier for me! Thanks for sticking around. Enjoy the ride, Jared

[@tomlarocque4720]

Such a great review. Thanks

[@glengearhart651]

It seemed to me that the newer machine is quite a bit quieter in the cab? That's the biggest thing I hate about most UTVs. They are deafening to drive around. This is a great video by the way. I learned a LOT about both the 2022 and 2023 models.

[@3SeasRecreation]

Pumped that you enjoyed our video! YES I would absolutely agree that they are quieter than they were before. I think they get louder as you start to install a cab and enclose them in. Enjoy the ride, Jared

[@wasupfool5692]

Exactly, theyre all way to noisy, you have to yell to your passenger

[@bruceh3786]

You both did a great job on the comparison. I ended up passing on the 2023 and bought a 2022 ZForce 800EX a couple of weeks ago. The 2023 has a lot of nice improvements but for reasons I do not understand, CFMoto decided not to offer the 800EX for 2023. You will now have to get a 950EX if you want the 60 inch wide wheel track. I definitely wanted a 60 inch EX over a Trail but I have no desire or need for the 950 engine. With the price increase and the added cost of the larger engine, it would have cost around 2 grand or more for something I really didn't want. One of the selling points of a CFMoto is there is about a $2,000+ savings over the competition. The 2023 950EX puts me much closer to the price of a CanAm or Polaris. If I only had the 2023 950EX available for $2,000+ more, I would have given a lot more consideration to purchasing one of the other brands. I think CFMoto weakened their competitive advantage by not offering a 800EX for 2023. I like most of the 2023 changes but have no regrets getting the 2022 Z 800EX. What impact does the lack of a parking brake have on trailering? CFMoto says not to trailer in park. You can put the 2023 in neutral but there is no brake to set.

[@3SeasRecreation]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts! Some really good points were made. I would have to suggest what the manual says and to tow the machine in neutral. Buy a few sets of good straps and make sure it is strapped down good! Enjoy the ride, Jared

[@sebrofc]

Similar boat here, I don't want the trail but love the 23' upgrades. I'm not spending a shit ton more for the 950 I don't need. Dunno what to think 🤔.

[@IC_Liquid]

Where are you able to buy a rzr for the price of the 950? In my area rzr ultimate is 20k

[@javiercastaneda7092]

Chingón el video bro Saludos

[@bkmaw]

Excellent video.

[@shawnbossert7676]

Are the windows and back cage interchangeable between the 2022 and 2023?

[@robertpluszczynski4383]

Great all around video very informative!

[@3SeasRecreation]

Good Morning! Thanks for the positive vibes! Enjoy the ride, Jared

[@fasdude38]

It looks like I'm going to have to scrimp and save to afford the Gen 2. It is night and day better than the old version. So many better executed storage and access to electrical/mechanical components. I'm really short so the seat adjustability is way awesome and a real selling point for me. I love the looks much better and I'm loving the door setup much more in the new model. I hate the cold, so I would eventually invest in a soft enclosure and installing a little heater setup if it isn't too expensive. I am loving everything about the new Gen 2. Here in Canada, they retail for $17K CAD but the 5 yr warranty is free.

[@andrewbrassard7332]

Is the g2 from Canada because I’m looking at one in NY 2023 g2 with no override button and it has the e- brake Do you know why the difference ?

[@dennybryant710]

How hard is it to completely remove the doors on the '23 model?

[@MrJohnp9]

I would love a new model but the extra cost is what’s pushing me to the older model. Especially here in NYC.

[@admjlw]

Great review. I too have a queston about the new model not having a parking brake though. I know on my uforce we are warned to never trailer the machine in Park but to use Neutral and set the parking brake because the pin in the tranny is not very strong and movement while in Park can shear the pin and cause big dollar repair bills. Also not supposed to rely on Park on a steep hill, but again use a gear and rely on the parking brake. So do you know if they've changed something with the Park setting so one can rely on it to hold on a hill or while trailering?? I have a buddy who is very close to pulling the trigger on the new 800 Trial. Thanks much.

[@normanlapierre142]

i just got to sit in a gen 2 800 trail today at my local cf moto dealer here in Maine and love how it feels and looks over the 2022s i want to get one maybe next year i want to wait to see how they do pluse think i want the 950 trail thanks for the side by side comparison

[@3SeasRecreation]

Glad you liked the fit and finish, we can't wait for a 950 to come in either! Enjoy the ride, Jared

[@bigbullhorn8443]

Excellent video’s guys. Hopefully see you soon for an ATV.

[@3SeasRecreation]

Thanks for checking out the video! I look forward to working with you! Enjoy the ride, Jared

[@Bahamaspete]

Why was the 2023 model made without an emergency break? What is that all about? What's with the shifting issues? If the unit had an emergency break I'd be able to just leave it in neutral position. Shifting from park is a hell of an issue.

[@markgraham8854]

Did you say the 2023 doesn't have a parking brake or 2022? Also, on the rear differential, is it limited slip? Will it tear up the turf on sharp corners in two wheel drive? Enjoyed the video actually watched it a couple times. 👍👍👍

[@3SeasRecreation]

Good Morning! Thanks for checking out our videos, much appreciated! Correct on the parking brake, the 2023 does NOT have the parking brake. The rear end is a solid rear end all the time, only Polaris has a mode called "Turf mode" on some of their models that allow the customer to unlock that rear end for driving around on the ground. That is probably the only feature I miss about selling Polaris (we sold Polaris for 25 years). Enjoy the ride, Jared

[@RydinginStyle72]

What is the difference between the trail model and the ex model

[@3SeasRecreation]

Good Morning, the EX model is the wider 60" and the Tail is the 50" model. Enjoy The Ride, Jared

[@Doniehg]

23 is super nice BUT few issues. Longer and heavier. Glove box are a open and hold open with one hand. Sport mode and high/low beam switches are in a bad spot.

[@mustafaboy6844]

braxton was great!

[@3SeasRecreation]

He appreciates the comment! Enjoy the ride, Jared

[@borandell9915]

Very good review. I've had the 2022 almost one year now. The 2023 is definitely an improvement. I would love to have the full doors, the leg room and the storage bins of the 23. Otherwise, I'm good with the 22. 2 quick questions. Is the 2022 taller than the 2023. And is the gear shift Park on top of the 23 and at the bottom of the 22? It looks like they did reverse it. Which would also be an improvement (IMO).

[@3SeasRecreation]

Thanks for checking out our channel and the positive feedback! 1.) I believe the height is almost identical. 2.) Yep they reversed the order of operations for the gear shifter. Not sure why but it shifts good. Enjoy the ride, Jared

[@rickyde0255]

Would you consider a comparison between the 800 and 950? I'm trying to decide.

[@3SeasRecreation]

Good Morning, certainly will! Once we get a new 950 in we will absolutely be doing a video! Keep an eye on our channel! Thanks for watching, Jared

[@braydenlowe2024]

Awesome video which color is your favorite?

[@3SeasRecreation]

I am a huge fan of the current dark Blue color offered from CFMoto. It is a really deep color and looks great in the sun! Enjoy the ride, Jared

[@braydenlowe2024]

​@@3SeasRecreationAwesome Thank You!

[@StevieG21]

Do you think CFM will come out with a competitor for the Commander and General? Those two have gotten so pricey that it seems like a perfect market for CFM to get into.

[@3SeasRecreation]

Good Afternoon! Thanks for checking out our channel! I think CFMoto is looking at all categories including the high performance SXS market. They have a ton of models that will be released over the next 5 year according to their last company email! Enjoy the ride, Jared

[@michaelcoffey4358]

welp, im gonna get me a 2023 cfmoto zforce 800 trail.

[@3SeasRecreation]

Man that is cool! Enjoy The Ride, Jared

[@coopdoesit7442]

Pretty much a mavric sport platform with a dif motor!

[@chadfaulkner3600]

The air box placement would make snorkeling extremely simple.

[@3SeasRecreation]

That is very true! Thanks for checking out our channel, much appreciated! Enjoy the ride, Jared

[@craigduncan643]

Why no parking brake?

[@3SeasRecreation]

I don't have an answer as to why they removed it. I would bet $.01 that it was because a small amount of people never released it and drove them until the brakes boiled out of them. We had a few customers do that here at the shop. Enjoy the ride, Jared

[@Doniehg]

I don't use mine at all. I'll be removing it

[@CoreyHack]

Why did they make the Gen 2 10 inches longer. That seems like a poor decision to me.

[@mohsinbable2147]

how much money

[@stevegreen6441]

The new gen2 test drive… should’ve shown normal and then sport mode. The one thing I wanted to see and you dropped the ball on one of the biggest selling points. Do another video.

[@3SeasRecreation]

That is a great point, sorry to forget that.. As soon as we get the new 950 we will do the same type of video! Stay tuned! Enjoy the ride, Jared

[@inspectr1949]

Western NY I'm in eastern NY otherwise I'd check you out.

[@3SeasRecreation]

Yep the state is pretty long LOL. Enjoy The Ride, Jared

[@niklas7468]

Looks very similar to a can am maverick trail

[@3SeasRecreation]

I have not been near a CanAm Maverick but they do look very similar in pictures! Enjoy the ride, Jared

[@JAKDRZR]

My only problem is it’s the same price as a Polaris 1000 trail s which has better suspension and more power and is lighter. So I’m out.

[@mustafaboy6844]

the phone😂

[@robertsamson7071]

Use ur right hand big guy instead of ur left too open the door lol

[@3SeasRecreation]

I certainly can, just a really big note that might be uncomfortable for some people reaching across their bodies to open the door. I really thought the other door latch was a better design that's all. Enjoy the ride, Jared

[@TheBandit7613]

How dare you! Don't say anything about the doors, those are the best doors in the industry. I've been waiting for someone to make proper doors

[@RydinginStyle72]

What in the world would they ever put half a door on anything for? Is that make any sense at all why even have a door at all if you're just going to get wet in the water splashes up right where the hole is that is really stupid

[@3SeasRecreation]

The half door is a requirement from our US Government. If you research the early days of the Yamaha Rhino you will understand.

[@Williamxmr]

Wow they ripped off the Maverick sport HARD

[@richarddeschamps5425]

Looks like a can am. Same doors ,same cup holders, same intakes, same box but most likely $2000 cheeper!!!

[@3SeasRecreation]

Thanks for checking out our channel! Yes CFMoto certainly has taken some ideas from both Polaris and CanAm. Usually $4000-$9000 less compared to them actually! Enjoy the ride, Jared

[@jamesgoodine]

Um……..Can-Am clone!!